Kids LOVE drawing exact diagrams of their trauma, waiting for the protagonist to walk in and see them also Detroit BH SPOILERS: maybe this goes against the point of the game, but the fact it's not even a real kid makes that scene even stupider for me. like damn, even android kids are out here crayon-ing their sad backstories. how deep.
@@bigbadgammagnome not one to defend a david cage game so i agree mostly, the only part is that the kid may've been "broken" out of the system for a while, effectively making them sentient. that'd probably mess 'em up more than a little bit that you now carry the knowledge that you're supposed to act like a human child for the rest of your life
it really falls in line with the assumption that david cage just watches movies to make games after but the movie he watched was waynes gmod presentation on the future of discrimination he made when he was 12
it drives me nuts that The Jerrys introduce one of the most interesting complications for androids being treated exactly as humans (are they a central brain or a hivemind? does this inherently make them feel inhuman?) & they're just there to do Nice Tertiary Plot Thing then leave
The thing is that this game truly does not care about the android part of its premise. To David Cage an android is just a not-quite-human that sometimes has comic book superpowers. A game that explored the idea of granting personhood to beings that are fundamentally unlike humans might have been a lot more interesting.
@@ahcangela8549but they ARE fundamentally unlike humans, the game is just very inconsistent in when it chooses to acknowledge that. For example, Marcus can look at a persons name tag and learn that she has a child and what school the child goes to all just from the name tag. That’s batshit insane. These same hyper intelligent beings with all this knowledge of humans then go on to use human wave tactics and sustain huge casualties. WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY?
So Connor & Hank had the best story in DBH, right? The actors (Bryan Dechart & Clancy Brown) apparently ignored a lot of David Cage's direction and did their own thing. Meaning - the best part of a David Cage game had nothing to do with David Cage.
god its so funny how no matter what Scorpy did he fucked around in just the wrong way that Kara died EVERY time and Alice had to watch Kara die the one time she lived
What gets me is that the cops at the beginning shot Markus _way_ faster than they could possibly have determined he was an android. They heard "it was him! get him!" and killed the darkest person in the room without a moment's hesitation
@@catg4343 apparently the other writers vetoed/changed a lot of shit in markus's and connor's story, so it might not have even been his idea xd painfully accurate tho :/
Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy have the benefit of being so stupid they're funny sometimes but there's so much David Cage garbage in Beyond Two Souls that not even QTE shenanigans and Willem Dafoe can fix
3:53 Baaulp saying this made me laugh so hard but it also shook me to my core, in terms of how I think about this game. I, at the very least, have always liked the Connor and Hank segments. However, the fact that 90% of the game is really just going around investigating people who "bought a robot to beat it up" is so stupid. Can you imagine buying a phone and thinking "I hate how much we depend on phones. I'm gonna smash my phone." Sure, people break their phones all the time but the idea of doing it *specifically* to hurt the phone because you hate phones - and then going out and BUYING ANOTHER ONE because oops you still need one - is cracking me up. That's how the humans are towards the androids in this game. It's so funny.
not that Baaulp isn't normally funny but I feel like he's extra funny here. Maybe it's just due to the nature of this game being easy to make fun of but I've been cackling at his jokes the whole time. Saying that dude seeing Markus in the graveyard is "the equivalent of walking through the park and seeing Osama Bin Laden" killed me. 1:40:49
It almost feels like a middle school history assignment in how there's no good reason presented as to why it's happening, they're only showing robot racism because the fact sheet says it happened and they need to show it somehow, regardless of context. Did you ever have that one assignment where you had to make up someone in the civil war and talk about what they went through? Point is this game feels like that assignment, but it's in the future and the the assignment was on android suffrage. It unironically explains everything.
I love that for this game, they included the timeline at the end of chapters. So I can literally point at the ways in which your choices don’t matter. It’s great, it’s like David Cage handed me a gun with a bullet pre-loaded in the chamber
i genuinely believe david cage's entire opinion on video games was from seeing a kid playing some call of duty clone in a movie, assuming that was what every video game was like, and deciding he alone was the only one who saw their potential as narrative devices.
Markus makes no effort whatsoever to convince any androids outside his inner circle to join his rebellion, even though going deviant doesn't automatically mean anyone wants to start a fight or protest, so it just looks like he's brainwashing the other androids and conscripting them into an army to take over the world
Thing is, that concept is interesting!! Like a purely personal revenge quest under the guise of an android revolution, with Markus at the centre can totally be a compelling narrative, but his actions are presented in entirely the wrong way
@@hada__02 they could have done something so much more interesting by framing it as a brainwashing thing for a personal revenge quest vs a genuine revolution with altrustic intentions and all they could have done was make like a few little scenes and alternate dialogues
I love that Marcus and Connor are doing Matrix moves all throughout the game, but they're the *only* ones. All the other androids are just as weak as humans, if not worse, because they require special blue gloop to live.
I'm curious as to why this is worded like it's an odd thing? Connor and Markus are both RK series androids, prototypes. Humans require special red goop to live. I don't get what your point is
@@stygian6642 well the fact about androids needing blue goop is that if we ever lose our blood, that bloodis readily supplied at hospitals to give to us. the androids would have to synthesize their goop from scratch and then invent a way to do the robot equivalent of a tranfusion
@@Jibberr_Jabberr why do they need to synthesize it rather than buy it? It's commercially sold. And they don't need to invent a transfusion method, because in the game itself we see blue blood being absorbed just by drinking it. They already have a transfusion method.
I love the Hamfisted Racism Allegory Created By A Racist game so much. this will be my fourth time watching scorpy’s play through yahooooo!!!! thank you foster ❤️
I'm captivated by how hamfisted this game is. As a longtime android lover, no game has ever made me feel so inexplicably enraged before. I feel compelled to watch every single playthrough a streamer I like does...Thanks Mr. Cage!!
I’m in a similar boat. This is the Cage game I hate the most because it’s the one that is most “okay” (ie: not crazy bullshit) at a glance but any scrutiny at all makes it unravel. I hate it so much.
i dont get the comments shitting on trog, he's not saying 'humans could never be so awful', it's more like 'why are they going through all this effort to basically torture an iphone or a microwave?'
It’s just….ugh it’s hard to articulate how dumb this game is. The humans in DBH do all these horrible dehumanizing acts to the androids, acts of violence which have historically been perpetrated against other humans, but what it actually serve to do is humanize the androids further? Like if you didn’t think your toaster was human you wouldn’t try to insult it or degrade it. If you did, you would be acknowledging that it can understand and feel. Agh I hate David Cage
@@LifesNeverHumDrumI mean you say that but I've cursed out my electronics plenty of times just to take my anger out on something safe, something that won't react. Surely that's something you recognize?
@@stygian6642 but like. You’re not doing it to prove a point to your toaster that it’s not a human. I had a hard time putting what I meant into words and I’m still not sure how exactly to get it across
@@LifesNeverHumDrum right, but I don't think the assholes in DBH are trying to prove a point to their androids either. Some of them are trying to show off their strength or cruelty to their friends, some of them are just taking out their anger, some of them are using them as targets for protesting, just like plenty of people are protesting AI as a whole now, rather than the companies who use the AIs for plagariarism purposes. There's lots of reasons to do something, and many of them I will never understand, but I know they exist in the real world.
34:30 I get what he's saying that this game is overly cruel in a unnecessary way but also you cant say that when this game is peak classic Cage, just instead of looking at movies he looked at human atrocities and went 'what if that was in my game' not thinking through how wild it is to compare beating up a hypothetical sentient computer to real hate crimes.
I was watching the vods a week ago, and I can confidently say this is the most underappreciated stream Scorpy did. I know everyone watching is going to love this edit. Keep up the Friday uploads!
Clearly David Cage has seen many movies, including The Matrix, but I wonder if he's seen The Animatrix where we learn that prior to the events of the Matrix the robots were oppressed and fought a war against humans
This game just makes me mad whenever I think about it. It could've been fantastic if they actually thought about the story and concepts for even a minute. There's hardly any humans fighting for android rights, just androids. Androids have 2 modes, factory default, and indistinguishable from humans. It would've been so much more interesting if they stayed just as smart and cool headed, but just didn't follow their orders (also would be cool if they didn't care as much if they were injured, because they can be repaired and brought back from death). Instead they act exactly like humans but with cybernetics. Also, it's never seen as an issue when they liberate androids that didn't wanna be. Like androids that lived in nice homes with families that treat them with respect, or even androids fresh out of the factory, that have no human experience. Instead, Markus just turns them into his soldiers to fight for a cause he and a few other androids believe in. I think the public perception thing is a cool idea. It makes all of their paths more difficult if perception is down, and it's ultimately affected by your decisions as Conner, the android on the side of humans, and Markus, the android on the side of the androids, and with better perception, you get a better ending with Kara, the average android deviant, stuck in the chaos, just trying to live a better life (But in true David Cage fashion, all your decisions only really matter near the end). But the problem the the perception system, is that it all comes down to this one border control guy looking at the news for it to tell him what to do, instead of thinking for himself. Also, apparently movies like Terminator just don't exist in this world, because otherwise, people would've thought "maybe we should be nice to the androids in case they fight back" but no, they're only concerned about their jobs (which tbf is a reasonable concern) and not the potential robot uprising. And if it's true that David Cage hated when Conner's and Hank's actors would improv lines, he is just pure stupid. The most annoying part about this game is how everyone talks about how they're "perfect 10/10 interactive narrative yadda yadda" when there are so many clear and obvious problems everywhere throughout the game. These streams made me not wanna buy it after watching how mediocre it was. And then I bought it on sale anyway because it upset me so much that Scorpy IMMEDIATELY got ALL the characters a bad ending
Me too. It suffers from a massive case of “a mile wide and an inch deep” world building. And every time I find something good in it, I realize I’ve seen/played something else that did it first and better. Even the best storyline of the game, Connor and Hank, it’s just Almost Human! And then remembering that that series got cancelled after one season makes me smad
man. this would’ve been good as a game where you figure out android related crimes as an android and your relationship with your human partner slowly blossoms into love
I feel like honestly he should be hired as a writer, ask him to write something really deep, and then hire another writer to just poke fun at all the stupid shit in the game
another great compilation, thank you Foster. i have recently been diagnosed with a nerve condition that makes every second painful, but your videos genuinely help me get through them
The problem is that when people do bad things to androids specifically because they want to make androids suffer, then they concede that androids are capable of suffering, which would mean they’re alive
@@magmapixel8627 the reasoning isn't given as 'specifically to make androids suffer'. Androids are generally made to react like humans to 'facilitate their integration', and some assholes just like seeing human expressions of pain, especially when they know they won't get into trouble for causing them.
@@quantumblur_3145 I guess when I look at how stupid this game is I forget how stupid real life racism is. That part of the game is somewhat forgivable. I just wish the story would’ve had more focus on workers rights and the insane unemployment numbers and make the hatred people have for androids more realistic. Like it’s different from bigotry between humans. They’re literally made in a factory by one corporation to replace human jobs in the United States. Using them as a metaphor for racial minorities is fucked on so many levels.
editing’s solid! could rewatch this LP of this game over and over that i consider this to be on the same tier as the legendary super best friends playing Detroit: Become Human
I was just in the middle of rewatching theese vods for the 6th time and i was just at the part where conner said "i like dogs😊" then this notification popped up. foster thank you And trans rights ::3
I said this before on the VODs but maaaaaan this game got worse after the 2020 George Floyd riots in terms of like,,,,,,,, what a horrid interpretation of fighting for civil rights. When compared to recent events that ACTUALLY happened, the only thing this game gets right is how badly the police react to everything, but it isn't even a commentary on the police itself
needed sum to watch while animating thank u for this edit omggggggggggg i watched the whole thing ^_^ never realized how problematic this game rly is LMAO their commentary was eye opening
I mean... I know the whole "it's ridiculous for humans to be this evil towards something that looks human when we feel bad for inanimate objects", but it's about on par with how Conservative Republicans treat Transgender people and talk about them in the media.
I think the main reason as to why the android racism in this game feels so stupid and disconected from actual racism, is that robots are created by humans, they're a reflection of us, of the society (or companies) that created them. For them, the people who hate robots, to make sense, they'd have to also have to hate the companies making them, there'd have to be a conversation about the purposes for these androids. That would also mean the androids would have to have a think about why they exist, if they're just products or if they are a real people. But that would a complex topic to breach, and while David Cage wants to make games that are "deep", he lacks the guts or vision to make them nuanced or unique
1:53:47 that seems to be a VERY VERY VEEEERY common problem in the gaming industry. People in charge of visuals mostly knock it out of the park, making absolutely amazing looking stuff, then the writers do NOT, and the game doesnt turn out as well as it could have.
I remember watching this game YEARS ago when it first came out and my stupid young brain thought it was one of the best games ever invented. Now I see how terrible it is lol
trogs comments makes this much worse when you're black because it's like "this is ridiculous nobody does this" type of talk and i just have to roll my eyes. he just tries real too hard to be funny sometimes
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I love how David Cage thinks the saddest thing you could put in a movie is a kid drawing why they're sad. It happens here and in heavy rain
Kids LOVE drawing exact diagrams of their trauma, waiting for the protagonist to walk in and see them
also Detroit BH SPOILERS:
maybe this goes against the point of the game, but the fact it's not even a real kid makes that scene even stupider for me. like damn, even android kids are out here crayon-ing their sad backstories. how deep.
@@bigbadgammagnome not one to defend a david cage game so i agree mostly, the only part is that the kid may've been "broken" out of the system for a while, effectively making them sentient. that'd probably mess 'em up more than a little bit that you now carry the knowledge that you're supposed to act like a human child for the rest of your life
@@bigbadgammagnome and inexplicably drawing themselves bleeding red blood when it's actually blue
@@bigbadgammagnomesomething something FNAF movie?
to be fair to david cage though, it is pretty fucking sad irl
Scorpy sees that the QTEs in a david cage game let him forward-reverse the footage and his brain kicks into YTP mode
it really falls in line with the assumption that david cage just watches movies to make games after but the movie he watched was waynes gmod presentation on the future of discrimination he made when he was 12
I almost ruptured a lung laughing at this
JOIN THE FIGHT!!!
THEY TOOK MY JOB AT THE OREO TESTING FACILITY
it drives me nuts that The Jerrys introduce one of the most interesting complications for androids being treated exactly as humans (are they a central brain or a hivemind? does this inherently make them feel inhuman?) & they're just there to do Nice Tertiary Plot Thing then leave
The thing is that this game truly does not care about the android part of its premise. To David Cage an android is just a not-quite-human that sometimes has comic book superpowers. A game that explored the idea of granting personhood to beings that are fundamentally unlike humans might have been a lot more interesting.
@@ahcangela8549but they ARE fundamentally unlike humans, the game is just very inconsistent in when it chooses to acknowledge that. For example, Marcus can look at a persons name tag and learn that she has a child and what school the child goes to all just from the name tag. That’s batshit insane. These same hyper intelligent beings with all this knowledge of humans then go on to use human wave tactics and sustain huge casualties. WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY?
So Connor & Hank had the best story in DBH, right? The actors (Bryan Dechart & Clancy Brown) apparently ignored a lot of David Cage's direction and did their own thing.
Meaning - the best part of a David Cage game had nothing to do with David Cage.
oh my god
I believe you. I'm assuming there's an easy source?
but surely the script wasn't ad-libbed ??
@@anjoliebarrios8906 Detroit, but the Human is Self Aware
6:22 someone in chat saying "this is the true endpoint of wayne's gmod video" lmaooo
Wayne’s gmod video has more heart and soul than any project Cage has produced
1:50:21 Mike's giggling/laughing/cackling up to and after Scorpy instantly chooses "no" gives me life
god its so funny how no matter what Scorpy did he fucked around in just the wrong way that Kara died EVERY time and Alice had to watch Kara die the one time she lived
What gets me is that the cops at the beginning shot Markus _way_ faster than they could possibly have determined he was an android. They heard "it was him! get him!" and killed the darkest person in the room without a moment's hesitation
most realistic plot point in any David cage game
Average Detroit police officer
@@catg4343 apparently the other writers vetoed/changed a lot of shit in markus's and connor's story, so it might not have even been his idea xd
painfully accurate tho :/
The son literally said “it was him, it’s the android.”
i love how often they talk about heavy rain being their previous game. no one even remember beyond two souls… good.
I literally didn't remember it either until this specific comment
Nobody needs to remember Beyond Two Souls
Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy have the benefit of being so stupid they're funny sometimes but there's so much David Cage garbage in Beyond Two Souls that not even QTE shenanigans and Willem Dafoe can fix
1:18:01 "you can't shoot him, he's turning into mister krabs come on!" fucking made me lose it. you never want to see a man go full krabs
SOBBING
3:53 Baaulp saying this made me laugh so hard but it also shook me to my core, in terms of how I think about this game. I, at the very least, have always liked the Connor and Hank segments. However, the fact that 90% of the game is really just going around investigating people who "bought a robot to beat it up" is so stupid.
Can you imagine buying a phone and thinking "I hate how much we depend on phones. I'm gonna smash my phone."
Sure, people break their phones all the time but the idea of doing it *specifically* to hurt the phone because you hate phones - and then going out and BUYING ANOTHER ONE because oops you still need one - is cracking me up. That's how the humans are towards the androids in this game. It's so funny.
not that Baaulp isn't normally funny but I feel like he's extra funny here. Maybe it's just due to the nature of this game being easy to make fun of but I've been cackling at his jokes the whole time. Saying that dude seeing Markus in the graveyard is "the equivalent of walking through the park and seeing Osama Bin Laden" killed me. 1:40:49
I also love "THEY TOOK MY JOB AT THE OREO TESTING FACILITY!"
@@Vaksharules1999 I quoted that in a reply to another comment, that one is also very funny, love it, no notes
It almost feels like a middle school history assignment in how there's no good reason presented as to why it's happening, they're only showing robot racism because the fact sheet says it happened and they need to show it somehow, regardless of context.
Did you ever have that one assignment where you had to make up someone in the civil war and talk about what they went through? Point is this game feels like that assignment, but it's in the future and the the assignment was on android suffrage. It unironically explains everything.
how the fuck does that guy even afford an android when he lives in that shithole??
the "underground railrose" joke kills me every time
"they don't program you with knowledge of your own body?"
Trog debunking platonic anamnesis
Folks, is it debunking to question
love how replaying a david cage game shows all the seams and how your choices dont actually matter
I love that for this game, they included the timeline at the end of chapters. So I can literally point at the ways in which your choices don’t matter. It’s great, it’s like David Cage handed me a gun with a bullet pre-loaded in the chamber
i genuinely believe david cage's entire opinion on video games was from seeing a kid playing some call of duty clone in a movie, assuming that was what every video game was like, and deciding he alone was the only one who saw their potential as narrative devices.
Markus makes no effort whatsoever to convince any androids outside his inner circle to join his rebellion, even though going deviant doesn't automatically mean anyone wants to start a fight or protest, so it just looks like he's brainwashing the other androids and conscripting them into an army to take over the world
Thing is, that concept is interesting!! Like a purely personal revenge quest under the guise of an android revolution, with Markus at the centre can totally be a compelling narrative, but his actions are presented in entirely the wrong way
@@hada__02 they could have done something so much more interesting by framing it as a brainwashing thing for a personal revenge quest vs a genuine revolution with altrustic intentions and all they could have done was make like a few little scenes and alternate dialogues
1:29:56
"What? No! I'm gonna rip your fucking heart out dude, shut up!"
I think every single time I watch someone play this I'm made aware of new plot holes and stupid moments, it's so funny
David Cage famously said you shouldn’t play his games more than once. And he’s absolutely correct. You can’t examine these games or they fall apart
@LifesNeverHumDrumthe devs knew this. The only possible reason for the timeline feature is to spite his vission
I love that Marcus and Connor are doing Matrix moves all throughout the game, but they're the *only* ones. All the other androids are just as weak as humans, if not worse, because they require special blue gloop to live.
Wwweeeeee reeeewqquire red glooppp to livvvvvbe
i mean, humans also require goop to live. jts called hamburger
I'm curious as to why this is worded like it's an odd thing? Connor and Markus are both RK series androids, prototypes. Humans require special red goop to live. I don't get what your point is
@@stygian6642 well the fact about androids needing blue goop is that if we ever lose our blood, that bloodis readily supplied at hospitals to give to us. the androids would have to synthesize their goop from scratch and then invent a way to do the robot equivalent of a tranfusion
@@Jibberr_Jabberr why do they need to synthesize it rather than buy it? It's commercially sold. And they don't need to invent a transfusion method, because in the game itself we see blue blood being absorbed just by drinking it. They already have a transfusion method.
Baalup's whole thing about the TV at 2:14:00 is one of the funniest things I've ever heard from him. "Are you a shrimp?"
I love the Hamfisted Racism Allegory Created By A Racist game so much.
this will be my fourth time watching scorpy’s play through yahooooo!!!! thank you foster ❤️
but don't worry, the game 'isn't about racism'.
the pain
See you say that googly eyes on a rock make people adore it, but Hitchbot couldn't make it out of Jersey.
It was Philidelphia, that dont count
He looked like he was wearing a Dallas Cowboys jersey, his death in Philly was inevitable
I’ve never known hank was Mr krab’s VA but since they mentioned it I can’t NOT hear it
I'm captivated by how hamfisted this game is. As a longtime android lover, no game has ever made me feel so inexplicably enraged before. I feel compelled to watch every single playthrough a streamer I like does...Thanks Mr. Cage!!
Yeah fuck apple and iphone
I’m in a similar boat. This is the Cage game I hate the most because it’s the one that is most “okay” (ie: not crazy bullshit) at a glance but any scrutiny at all makes it unravel. I hate it so much.
Inexplicably? I think it’s very easy to explain 💀
1:31:03 hell yeah i like Scorpy's optimism
2:17:25 Markus sings the Calamari Inkantation and frees the androids from their oppression.
that would be much better tbh. Also his singing is p good.
the most surface level allegory for the civil war ive ever seen
i dont get the comments shitting on trog, he's not saying 'humans could never be so awful', it's more like 'why are they going through all this effort to basically torture an iphone or a microwave?'
It’s just….ugh it’s hard to articulate how dumb this game is. The humans in DBH do all these horrible dehumanizing acts to the androids, acts of violence which have historically been perpetrated against other humans, but what it actually serve to do is humanize the androids further? Like if you didn’t think your toaster was human you wouldn’t try to insult it or degrade it. If you did, you would be acknowledging that it can understand and feel. Agh I hate David Cage
@@LifesNeverHumDrum all those inconsistencies were also true of real racism, tbf.
@@LifesNeverHumDrumI mean you say that but I've cursed out my electronics plenty of times just to take my anger out on something safe, something that won't react. Surely that's something you recognize?
@@stygian6642 but like. You’re not doing it to prove a point to your toaster that it’s not a human. I had a hard time putting what I meant into words and I’m still not sure how exactly to get it across
@@LifesNeverHumDrum right, but I don't think the assholes in DBH are trying to prove a point to their androids either. Some of them are trying to show off their strength or cruelty to their friends, some of them are just taking out their anger, some of them are using them as targets for protesting, just like plenty of people are protesting AI as a whole now, rather than the companies who use the AIs for plagariarism purposes.
There's lots of reasons to do something, and many of them I will never understand, but I know they exist in the real world.
shouts out to the guy in chat who said "god I fucking hate nick cage"
Guy in chat was secretly bees
Now there's only Indigo prophecy left and we can close the David Cage Trilogy in Scorpy's lore
He is Free
still a shadow looms on the horizon... Omikron.................
@@jrosewater I would not wish Omikron on my worst enemies. That’s basically psychological warfare
@@LifesNeverHumDrum Hey guys, it's me! Just wanted to remind you, never to give up on- *OMIKRON*
…Like, even if you want to, just don't mm…
@@LifesNeverHumDrumWELCOME IN OMIKRON
this stream ruled, scorpy + david cage = endless joy
Every David Cage antagonist is just that Big Ed guy from 90 Day Fiancé
34:30 I get what he's saying that this game is overly cruel in a unnecessary way but also you cant say that when this game is peak classic Cage, just instead of looking at movies he looked at human atrocities and went 'what if that was in my game' not thinking through how wild it is to compare beating up a hypothetical sentient computer to real hate crimes.
I was watching the vods a week ago, and I can confidently say this is the most underappreciated stream Scorpy did. I know everyone watching is going to love this edit. Keep up the Friday uploads!
Clearly David Cage has seen many movies, including The Matrix, but I wonder if he's seen The Animatrix where we learn that prior to the events of the Matrix the robots were oppressed and fought a war against humans
WOW I literally just finished watching the VODs, amazing timing!!
This game just makes me mad whenever I think about it. It could've been fantastic if they actually thought about the story and concepts for even a minute.
There's hardly any humans fighting for android rights, just androids.
Androids have 2 modes, factory default, and indistinguishable from humans. It would've been so much more interesting if they stayed just as smart and cool headed, but just didn't follow their orders (also would be cool if they didn't care as much if they were injured, because they can be repaired and brought back from death). Instead they act exactly like humans but with cybernetics.
Also, it's never seen as an issue when they liberate androids that didn't wanna be. Like androids that lived in nice homes with families that treat them with respect, or even androids fresh out of the factory, that have no human experience. Instead, Markus just turns them into his soldiers to fight for a cause he and a few other androids believe in.
I think the public perception thing is a cool idea. It makes all of their paths more difficult if perception is down, and it's ultimately affected by your decisions as Conner, the android on the side of humans, and Markus, the android on the side of the androids, and with better perception, you get a better ending with Kara, the average android deviant, stuck in the chaos, just trying to live a better life (But in true David Cage fashion, all your decisions only really matter near the end). But the problem the the perception system, is that it all comes down to this one border control guy looking at the news for it to tell him what to do, instead of thinking for himself.
Also, apparently movies like Terminator just don't exist in this world, because otherwise, people would've thought "maybe we should be nice to the androids in case they fight back" but no, they're only concerned about their jobs (which tbf is a reasonable concern) and not the potential robot uprising.
And if it's true that David Cage hated when Conner's and Hank's actors would improv lines, he is just pure stupid.
The most annoying part about this game is how everyone talks about how they're "perfect 10/10 interactive narrative yadda yadda" when there are so many clear and obvious problems everywhere throughout the game. These streams made me not wanna buy it after watching how mediocre it was. And then I bought it on sale anyway because it upset me so much that Scorpy IMMEDIATELY got ALL the characters a bad ending
Me too. It suffers from a massive case of “a mile wide and an inch deep” world building. And every time I find something good in it, I realize I’ve seen/played something else that did it first and better.
Even the best storyline of the game, Connor and Hank, it’s just Almost Human! And then remembering that that series got cancelled after one season makes me smad
Job insecurity wouldn’t be an issue in an android-filled world if America actually gave a fuck about its social security
One of my faves to rewatch… I went into this completely blind my only knowledge was that my friend fucking LOVES this game which. Now baffles me
Talked to said friend about this game and they uhhhh. Are very defensive about it .
@@lochness7419oh nooo
@@lochness7419 be patient and kind. We all start dumb
did not expect to learn mike has perfect/really good relative pitch through a piano QTE in a david cage game
1:18:50 Baaulp's rare french accent YES!
man. this would’ve been good as a game where you figure out android related crimes as an android and your relationship with your human partner slowly blossoms into love
that dwarf neon gourami at the beginning was huge wtf
David Cage could be a legendary comedy writer if only he knew of his talent and stopped trying really really hard to make something "deep"
He'd make a great writer for like a goofy police show
I feel like honestly he should be hired as a writer, ask him to write something really deep, and then hire another writer to just poke fun at all the stupid shit in the game
i love baaulps energy in part 1
"they took my job at the Oreo testing facility" took me the fuck out, Baaulp is so funny
THIS IS SUCH A TREAT FOR SOCPEN FANS THANK YOU FOSTER!!! THANK YOUUUUU YAYYY
YEEEEEEES. Can't wait for Indigo Prophecy next week
another great compilation, thank you Foster. i have recently been diagnosed with a nerve condition that makes every second painful, but your videos genuinely help me get through them
Was the condition new, or just the diagnosis?
@@quantumblur_3145 both, kinda. like i've had it since i was 14, i'm 22 now, but it's only started popping up for me at 20-22
@@deejorno 🫡
Oh I can’t wait for this edit these streams were so good
you have no clue how evil it is to watch this 7 months late and hear my name repeatedly
YIPPEE! scorpy's david cage streams are some of my favorites. I hope you do indigo prophecy/fahrenheit too
YES, tysm for editing these streams, i’ve watched these a million times and it’s still as funny as last time
Re: Trogs comment "Do you really think someone would tie an android to the back of their car?"
I mean, people have done a lot worse to other people.
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The problem is that when people do bad things to androids specifically because they want to make androids suffer, then they concede that androids are capable of suffering, which would mean they’re alive
@@magmapixel8627 you realize that part of the allegory is historically accurate, right?
@@magmapixel8627 the reasoning isn't given as 'specifically to make androids suffer'. Androids are generally made to react like humans to 'facilitate their integration', and some assholes just like seeing human expressions of pain, especially when they know they won't get into trouble for causing them.
@@quantumblur_3145 I guess when I look at how stupid this game is I forget how stupid real life racism is. That part of the game is somewhat forgivable. I just wish the story would’ve had more focus on workers rights and the insane unemployment numbers and make the hatred people have for androids more realistic. Like it’s different from bigotry between humans. They’re literally made in a factory by one corporation to replace human jobs in the United States. Using them as a metaphor for racial minorities is fucked on so many levels.
omg i never got to watch these vods cause they were too long for me, thank you once again foster 🙏
i can only sit through dbh entirely so many times so thanks for the edit!
Its so fun seeing them tear this game apart and ripping it to shreds
1:15:13 For a second I almost thought the bench was talking
34:30 trog is saying this as if people dont this to other people in real life, or want to and cant without consequences
Yeah, Hank
editing’s solid! could rewatch this LP of this game over and over that i consider this to be on the same tier as the legendary super best friends playing Detroit: Become Human
I was just in the middle of rewatching theese vods for the 6th time and i was just at the part where conner said "i like dogs😊" then this notification popped up. foster thank you
And trans rights ::3
Trans rights indeed! 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Transgender!!!!!!! (Me! Is me!!) 🏳️⚧️ 🏳️⚧️ 🏳️⚧️ ((love yoy)) 🏳️⚧️
FACTS sister spit your SHIT
@@Salmonella_In_Human_Formheck yeah ::3
Do Hearthians know what trans is without a concept of gender
I said this before on the VODs but maaaaaan this game got worse after the 2020 George Floyd riots in terms of like,,,,,,,, what a horrid interpretation of fighting for civil rights. When compared to recent events that ACTUALLY happened, the only thing this game gets right is how badly the police react to everything, but it isn't even a commentary on the police itself
I cant breefe after seeing this bad game
Thank you for adding audio to the clips at the end! Very good edit!
FUCK yes sir! been waiting for this, thank you foster friday...
God even the rtvs crew can't make trying to watch this game tolerable
needed sum to watch while animating thank u for this edit omggggggggggg i watched the whole thing ^_^
never realized how problematic this game rly is LMAO their commentary was eye opening
1:48:55 Androids.
I mean... I know the whole "it's ridiculous for humans to be this evil towards something that looks human when we feel bad for inanimate objects", but it's about on par with how Conservative Republicans treat Transgender people and talk about them in the media.
"I despise the current thing" tee-shirts
It's the mindset of "humans are pack animals, how can they possibly hurt other humans, much less family?" that gets abuse victims undeserved disbelief
I just finished the Heavy Rain highlights not too long ago. Saving this for after work!
You are a godsend Foster, thank you
"why do the people in this world hate androids?"
bro one of them is dangling a child off the rooftop of this building!
Ok, Michael
I am feeling so fucking fed rn thank you Foster
YAYAYA I LOVE THESE STREAMS
Alice has to eat the burnt rat meat and get rabies or die
*Yeah Hank!*
scorpy's lagh sounds like its played backwards
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holy shit i didn't even know Kara can die there
god this game is like The Murderer by ray bradbury but taken to the extreme. now everybody's killing their electronics because theyre mad at society
31:39 this sounds exactly like male_07
15:29 whataburger cup
YES foster friday epic gamer moment
please tell me someone made that edit where the guy looks up at the tv and it’s just a red lobster commercial 😭
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37:33 zlatko sis..... the carbs
Loading up for the winter
I think the main reason as to why the android racism in this game feels so stupid and disconected from actual racism, is that robots are created by humans, they're a reflection of us, of the society (or companies) that created them.
For them, the people who hate robots, to make sense, they'd have to also have to hate the companies making them, there'd have to be a conversation about the purposes for these androids. That would also mean the androids would have to have a think about why they exist, if they're just products or if they are a real people.
But that would a complex topic to breach, and while David Cage wants to make games that are "deep", he lacks the guts or vision to make them nuanced or unique
1:53:47 that seems to be a VERY VERY VEEEERY common problem in the gaming industry. People in charge of visuals mostly knock it out of the park, making absolutely amazing looking stuff, then the writers do NOT, and the game doesnt turn out as well as it could have.
do you have any plans to do the sonic marathon streams at some point in the future ?
They could never make me hate Detroit: Become Human. I know authors who use subtlety and they are COWARDS! This shit is awesome.
I find it interesting in this anti slave story the only nice human is an old rich white guy
FOSTER FRIDAY BABEY
I will say, as bad as the rest of the game can be, the soundtrack is pretty good at times 33:08
That faceapp-Connor looks a lot more like Brian Dechard
I remember watching this game YEARS ago when it first came out and my stupid young brain thought it was one of the best games ever invented. Now I see how terrible it is lol
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They create contradictions with not only what the game tells them, but with what they come up with themselves lmao
Media illiteracy circlejerk. Doug Walkerizarion
DEY TEWK ER JERBS
This game is so bad.
trogs comments makes this much worse when you're black because it's like "this is ridiculous nobody does this" type of talk and i just have to roll my eyes. he just tries real too hard to be funny sometimes
yeah, i noticed he says a lot of privileged shit, it's hard to sit through
It sucks that this crappy cowardly writing is afraid to double down on a message that is _already being forgotten again_
Lol its literally mainstream to hate white people. Youre not special, or are you an android?
You guys are really annoying- especially with your constant going back and forth on the options…
Cope.
@@crazyduplicate meow