The Laptop Your Boss Will LOVE - Panasonic Toughbook G2
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The Panasonic Toughbook G2 is a laptop/tablet combo that can take a bit of abuse as it can be dropped and handle water spills. However, it's also modular and configurable, so you can make it to whatever you want and probably be really easy to repair instead of being replaced! Your boss is going to love these.
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Sounds like a tablet for Linus
And he is their boss lol.
It said 6 feet drop safe, can he reach that high?
@@tehvvisard HAHAHA 😁
Maybe not his daily driver. For sure when he riled up tho 🤪
@Quantum he might kick it on the way down.
I drive a forklift at a juice processing facility and we use the Toughpad fz-g1 for all inventory and product management. I have never seen one break. Ever. No matter how many times dropped, driven over, or thrown in anger.
Hey, dont worry if you do - Warranty covers breaks including accidental damage! The original Toughbook we run over with an 18 wheeler for fun before it was decomissioned.. still worked.
@@snip3d what.. you serious ? That's a tough ass tablet
How do you get so mad in a juice processing plant that you throw a tablet though?
@@superslimanoniem4712 as the shift supervisor, I actually have the answer to that. Meth. The temp agency we hire out drivers from loves sending us drug addicts.
Panasonic also stock repair parts so that is also something that people take for granted. However, of they do break, they got you covered, too.
These things are great in EMS, there's a local story about using one to break open a window to get into a house. Works as well as a hammer as it does a durable laptop.
@charlesmercs Ah god, you're right, I hate it when burglars spend $4,000 on a laptop covered in plastic just so they can break into my home. Happens every time :(
Used Toughbooks on the ambulance for years. Left one on the bumper once and it fell off in traffic. Ran over multiple times. Drove back, found it, wiped off the tire tracks, then finished my run ticket like nothing ever happened.
@@xXCrimsonWolfXx752 lol
@@xXCrimsonWolfXx752 Nah, they probably stole the Toughbook, realized they don't know the password, and decided to toss it through a window to see what else they could steal.
@@cjayseven7262 that happened to me on the interstate one time. It’s is still in service 2 years later
Toughbooks are a lot cheaper than buying a new latitude every few months. I used to use one at an old job. Part of my responsibilities involved crawling into tight, hot, and dirty places to test industrial equipment. Made heavy use of the serial ports, I don't like the way they implemented on this equipment. The last thing I'd want to have to worry about while in a factory crawlspace was a dongle. The port should be built in.
The port would be good for you, but not for someone else. Having more modularity with dongle is better. And if you need the serial port that often you could just leave it plugged in.
@@GreenCinco12Official integrated modular cards like the framework and the other toughbook linus reviewed
@asdrubale bisanzio unfortunately still necessary in a lot of computer networks and datacenters too, expensive gear doesn't get replaced often, so you're usually stuck with DB-9 or RJ-45 serial console ports. Newer gear typically has a USB micro or type-C port in addition to if you're lucky, or only if you're not now, which is handy in that you only need a phone charger cable but sometimes has the same problem I have with dongles: drivers required/doesn't jive with some applications. One example I could cite: diagnosing GPS measurement and timekeeping equipment with a USB dongle means I can't see the PPS (pulse-per-second) output that's usually wired to the RTS/CTS pins that even if your dongle is wired for it USB is not realtime enough for it to be accurate (you could fairly argue that a general purpose OS is not realtime enough either but let's start by not compounding error).
@@GreenCinco12Official point being the add-in card could just have been a serial port. without looking too closely, it looks like they have an adapter cable to get the thickness down. Maybe there wasn't enough height for a serial port without a 'notch' up
I can see the dongle being a wear out / tear out modular support since most professional test equipment has a dongle extension to avoid wearing out or bending contact pins or cross threading connector screws, if you muck it up you just swap out the dongle and not the triple digit $$$ piece of equipment you need to keep using all day long.
It seems significantly less modular than the Toughbook that was reviewed on LTT.
But this one has a coiled chargin cable so it's automatically cooler.
Lul
I work with one of these every day as a paramedic, and I can attest to their very adequate toughness. Can't say much for performance because we pretty much only run one very light weight app on this computer at work. However, I've got LOTS to say about ergonomics.
First, the weight balance(or lack there of), is incredibly annoying. The handle does work well to stabilize on a hard desk surface, but this often must be used as a true LAPtop. In the lap, in a moving vehicle, it is constantly falling over backwards. You must constantly either hold the screen with one hand and do touch input with the other, or hold it down with your palms as you type.
Also, at least for our application, the capacitive touch screen is a nightmare. Mostly because of its restrictiveness. We have to have patients sign their name on every report using this screen, and the multi-touch capacitive screen causes constant palm inputs with styluses and many people woth even moderately long fingernails have difficulty using their actual fingertips to touch the screen. Also, not being able to use just any old stylus from the gas station when the provided one inevitably walks off is also annoying.
We used the earlier Gen versions. I forgot one on my response car roof while repacking and got a call. Responded out and stopped hard when I heard rattling on my roof thinking it was the light bar. The laptop flew strait off and hit the Tar. Only thing I had to do was turn the screan back (it had the swivel screan feature) and write a report because it had a minor crack on one of the corners. It performed perfectly other than that. The software requirements eventually exceeded its specs and was donated. The cost was insane. Really hope they are cheaper now. Unless your in a place where breakage is a absolute no no, then it is cheaper in the long run to just replace / repair BROCKEN laptops.
Drill a hole through a piece of wood and loosely thread a zip tie through it. Attach a karabiner clip to the cable tie.
Every time you need to use it on your lap, just clip the karabiner to the handle, and clamp the piece of wood between your knees.
We done this with the one that we use on our life boat, haven't had one fly overboard since.
I work in IT for a City in Orange County... and these Toughbooks are the standard for PD. And I'll tell you one thing after having to suppor these machines for 2 years -- they're hot garbage. More than 50% of them have issues with the touch screen where it "registeres" a touch, even though it's connected to the base and you're not using touch features. Additionally, the SIM support constantly drops (we've tried different carriers). The RFID scanner on the backside is extremely weak which causes issues with Card auths. Overall bad experience from the 300 we have deployed in PD.
I interned at a city's IT department and worked for the PD some, and while they were a few years old at the time man they weren't good. The cell reception in particular was garbage, got like one bar in the station parking lot.
How about the touchscreen when it's raining.. Well I have experience only from the old toughbooks. Not sure if they've gotten any better
@@startedtech did you install the external antenna on the dock?
I worked with Elk Grove PD on these. You're 100% correct. Their mainly sold around that Arbitrator 360 system... Hot, Hot, trash.
@@snip3d Antennas don't matter when your dB is in the mud. I used several antennas upto and including car integrated through the docks. The power reflections putting RF back into the system would overload the modem and shut it down... ALL THE TIME....
I've always admired the Toughbooks. They always felt like a big middle finger to traditional laptop design.
I'd take that Toughbook over that XPS just because of how cool and unique it is.
@@LloydLynx good luck with your badly balanced slow ass shit machine just because you think it'll make you cool. Not like others syndrome.
@@GroteGlon Ah heck naw. A Toughbook is gonna make me the coolest kid on the block for sure.
@@GroteGlon or someone could want it for it's durability and outdoor applications/uses, or someone could want it because they appreciate function over form or because they just don't care about looking trendy/being with it/making a fashion statement syndrome...
@@Sabundy there's better options. The function over form is bullshit because as many others pointed out the function part sucks ass. Nobody cares about trendy or shit like that it's tech not clothing fool.
Alex reminds me SO much of a guy who grew up in the southern part of the US on a farm fixing tractors and shit. Everything from his slight accent to his rugged looks and the fact that he's super into cars and a mechanical engineer. Yep, he screams southern kid until I remember he's Canadian 😂
we got hicks here in Canada too, believe me
Yeah I know right.
But,
Are you telling he is not?
Don't ruin my mental image. 😭
@@SADE__ So you are calling Alex stupid?
@@Mike-kr5dn I hick is not necessarily unintelligent. but not hick does not adequately describe Alex as he is neither dumb or provincial.
Believe me it’s not just a southern thing. Very common in the Midwest and parts of Canada
I love that description of the speakers. “I’m makes a similar amount of noise…..”
These things are beastly. The EMT in my city use those.
A story:
So I work security in a hospital. Ambulance brought a patient to our psych ward. We had no reason to believe that he was going to be any trouble. He had some previous visits and they had all gone fine. We were there to meet them anyway. The EMT got out of the ambulance and had barely the time to say
"He's been calm during the ride"
Then the patient straight up attacked him with fists flying. We started running towards the psychotic attacker, we were going to subdue him. We were too far, even if when we were half hearledly preparing for an attack.
The EMT:s use Toughbooks to book patients in to the actual hospital, so he had it on hand when he was attacked. The EMT straight up hit the patient on the face with the Toughbook as hard as he could while we were still running for him. And that EMT is not a small man, let me tel you that,
The patient got knocked the fuck out, we restrained him and the Toughbook took zero damage in the ordeal.
I only believe you because I know first hand what it feels like to drop a rugged tablet on your foot. I swear a brick would probably hurt less. I got a broken toe for my trouble but the tablet was fine.
One huge plus of Toughbooks are you can disinfect them, just use those recommended sanitize wipes. Very important if you work in a place that requires that. Works great for QC, from the warehouse to the lab. Also super important to know all the keyboard shortcuts because the trackpad ain't great the touch screen is meh too.
The speakers are probably limited to 80dB, because above that you're (in Europe) required to issue Ear Protection, because prolonged exposure will lead to permanent hearing damage.
As a European, I can confirm that we are more susceptible to permanent hearing damage.
Step 1. Get all the office staff to bring their hockey gear to a park.
Step 2. Setup camera's in park.
Step 3. Play Panasonic laptop tag
Step 4. Upload the footage to super fun
This would make a great ad for the toughbook
I actually really like the rugged device content, it's definitely a different market than gaming but these devices definitely have their place. Thanks for covering it.
I work for a local council and we have probably one of the previous versions of these that the Survey/Engineering Teams use whilst onsite, the extra RAM is great for them to be able to load detailed CAD drawings for Drainage/Flood-map data/Contour maps etc.
These were the go-to deployment laptop back when I was in the military. Loved working on and with them, despite being a tad bit slow. Thank god solid state storage is common now because I vividly remember paying premiums on HDD's for these things back in the day.
HDDs must have been the biggest weakpoints for devices like these.
I mean, it kinda defeats the purpose if every time after you drop it, most of your files get corrupted.
@@cookie_space well the auto parking of the heads helped, but not for mega G force drops ...
@@cookie_space The old ones sandwich the hard disk in foam strips for shock proofing, and also have little heater coils for use in cold weather. These can easily be upgraded to 2.5" SATA SSDs now.
finally, a linus proof all in one!
"this laptop is heavy"
My 5 year old gaming laptop: let me introduce myself
I've used Toughbooks since the early 2000s, over the 1G wireless data networks for law enforcement. They are tire chocks. You could throw the thing out of a couple story window and keep going. That is why law enforcement continues to use them. Most departments use them for in-car dispatch. They use serial a lot on very old TAs for their private wireless data networks.
I work as a paramedic and we have the previous version in use. I love the device because it is so robust. We even drove over it once with one of our cars (empty weight about 4 tons) and it didn't have a single scratch. Just the perfect laptop for any situation I've experienced as a paramedic so far.
I kind of love this thing. Modular to high heck. Literally take this thing to heck with all the modules to record everything. As a road warrior, geographic analysis, extream condition scientific worker. This really makes me smile.
Been in IT for ten years. Touched my first toughbook last week, it was old, slow, and took me 5 minutes to figure out the power and turn on button. But it was a lovely brick. 10/10 want one now.
it endlessly amuses me that they always use crab rave as their test music
Well, it's best to use the same thing when comparing otherwise it's not really a comparison. Plus they licensed Crab Rave IIRC so they can use it without getting in trouble
What's wrong with crab rave?
Because of Linus Tech Tips I sometimes listen to crab rave just to chill
@@kaldo_kaldo they probably licenced it pretty cheaply. Being played in basically every review video is a great advert for the song.
@@kaldo_kaldo Crab Rave is DMCA free, anyone can use it in their videos
I daily use a Panasonic CF-20
I love how it's durable and water resistant.
I quite often have to use it out in the rain and the touch screen still works perfectly.
lol as a youth i wanted an original tough book so badly. just looked so friggen badass. ofc i had no use for something that extreme and with not great internals. but it was so cool! neat to see them keep making them
This product replaces and merges together two previous product lines: the CF-20 and the FZ-G1. They had more overlap than differences, made a lot of sense to replace both with one model.
Ok, the background music is great in this video, great job
Makes sense that it has decently loud speakers and one of the better front-facing cameras in a laptop, makes it great for on-site video calls.
We have those at work and it always astounds me how my colleagues somehow manage to break these things really quickly.
Finally a laptop I can use to hook up my serial cable to for my tools I made myself
I love my 16 : 10 displays. That vertical space doesn't look like much on paper, but every bit helps.
When I used to work for the MoD, there was a monthly magazine put out, just light articles about the state of the MoD today, gear reviews and such. I remember seeing the double page, full glossy add for the panasonic toughbook. It was a picture of a soldier sat leaning back, with his knees up and the toughbook opened fully, propped on his waist and resting on his legs. With the tagline "If there's a sandstorm, get behind it". Wanted one ever since... until I see the price tag hahaaa
Toughbooks are awesome for field ops/garages/working environments. Not much for gaming though.
And Netflix
The older CNC's can sometimes have serial ports. Used an early model toughbook as program storage.
Wow that front-facing camera was actually great. Thermal camera was sick too
The webcam on that was surprisingly good, like. That's a level of quality I've rarely seen outside of MacBooks
That awkward moment when TimTheTatman cameo's a ShortCircuit video
AH! THATS where I recognized it from!
Where? :0
@@Mojomanultra the song they used in the vid is Timmy Tenders' outro song!
Oh, you mean "Too fat and old to play Apex Tim"? Yeah I know about him, he's a joke.
@@nexxusty A “joke” as in highly entertaining? Jeez… who crapped in your cereal this morning 😂 Tim is funny AF, who cares if he misses the purple mag after downing the dude
Really makes you appreciate the speakers on the xps15
I really liked this. It always being a protection but durable.
I wanna see a video showcasing improving thermal dissipation throughout the building.
Heatsinks in the walls will significantly improve heat transfer from those windows.
wow! these are still made? I thought the toughbook was discontinued.... nice to see its still around!
Bringing back that 2000s look I see Panasonic
We use these in EMS and they're awesome.
Your ad approach is better than main LTT channel. 🤘🏻
I have had many clients over the years buy toughbooks.. they travel a lot.. and these just keep working..
You guys should test this kinda tech at the extreme places such as north pole and dessert or on ship.. such situations do need alot of tech which we normal people never know existed.
I wouldn't mind one of these tbh. I tend to work with my laptop outside quite often, especially when I'm working on my car or on site.
Yeah, I think linus should have done the review of this. That way we could see how much dropping it can actually take!
Yup
underrated comment
I'm really surprised they didn't play on his clumsy nature.
I've worked with those Panasonic Toughpad laptops and tablets at a mine site. They really hold up to daily abuse and last forever. The thing is that they have custom software installed so they aren't for the office workers. These things are in the field all day long, typically the keyboard is mounted in the vehicle and the tablet is removed when the person leaves the vehicle to do the field work. The drawback is price, figure $5K.
That figure goes up quickly when you factor in the cost of the vehicle mounting kits; some of the docking tray and the arm/mounting kits are 2 or 3 grand or more, few hundred for power management, and then another few hundred for external antennas if you're using the pass-through connectors on the dock (pretty much essential if you want GPS and LTE to work when it's inside a metal cage)... the total cost per vehicle can reach past $10K easily. The one saving factor is that most of these manufacturers go to quite extreme lengths to preserve backwards compatibility with older equipment... Panasonic only recently broke compatibility with the CF-19/CF-31 equipment that has been used for over a decade, and you can actually still make their replacements work with adapters that just replace the standard keyboard docks with a shim that fits the old vehicle docks. I know they have that for the CF-33 to fit CF-30/31 docks, not sure about the smaller series (that this G2 replaces).
This is the coolest laptop I've ever seen! Buying one.
The Getac rugged laptops and tablets are pretty nice. The model I have come with dual batteries that are hot swappable so theoretically I can be completely portable for the entire life of the laptop
I’m an electrical engineer at John Deere and we give one of these out with every new tractor. Maybe not this EXACT model but we’re always updating them.
This is cool Alex!
We have ones that are a little bigger at work. They are tough and work well as a tablet and in the car and desk mounts we have for them. Great for applications where other laptops would die.
My pc felt self conscious when he said that tablet “only has 4 cores”
Not sure who to thank for it, but the music over the last couple of videos has been juuuuust fine.
i only see this from war movies before but luckily I had a chance to have the old models of this on hand way back on 2010 on Japan. and they are Tough.....
Panasonic is the best. I had some 6x9 car speakers back in the day and they were awesome.
Only thing I could see being different is adding batteries to the keyboard next to the track pad to add more weight on the far end to counter balance the screen a little, but otherwise this thing is an absolute unit and from what I know are loved everywhere they're used
True serial is A thing when you deal with multibeam sonar. You just need true serial to sync all devices. This tablet looks great to take it on A boat.
A local municipabicity I have done work for used the RFID/NFC on there toughpad's for integrating with Smart Meter Readers
That would be such an upgrade over the POS toghbook my work has given me. I've got a i5-2550M with 8GB of RAM. And the fun part is it's a Toughbook laptop that has a little bit of drop protection, but zero dust and water resistance. And I have to use my work phone's hotspot to get internet.
Worked at an ambulance station couple years back as an IT tech, and maintained their Toughbooks the Paramedics used to record patient data and transmit to the hospitals. One night a bored medic wondered how tough the Toughbooks were, and backed his ambulance (big box truck one) over it, and it collapsed like a cardboard box. He wasn't happy the following day when he was called in to HR and told he owes the company $5.5k for destroying company property intentionally, and how he wants to pay for that.
Interesting. At least in Massachusetts, USA, employers cannot bill employees for damage to equipment. They can fire the employee, but can't bill him (or deduct the cost from payroll). Contractors are a different story.
This is the laptop that LTT Boss NEEDS
Ain’t gonna lie, if I wasn’t leaving the farm position I am at, this laptop would be fantastic for me. Rough jobs require tough equipment and this would be great for everything except for maybe my GIS work.
At least Linus won’t have to worry about this tablet/laptop breaking from him dropping it.
I know it’s a little older at this point but could you guys review the Lenovo yoga 7i laptop I bought one and really like it but I also don’t know very much about laptops or computers in general and wanted to hear your take on it and hear the perspective of someone who really knows their laptops and computers if you could take it into consideration thank you and continue making the great content you guys put out
I was at a trade show in the mid '90s where they dunked a Toughbook in a 5gal. bucket, then drove over it in a golf cart. Back then it cost between $3-4k.
I remember working with the ruggedized Dell's that cost 8k each. This one seems more feature rich, lol.
Best back to school laptop
That's what I like about LTT, the moment they get something new they submit it to the water test 😀
Alex, when you do audio comparisons, start the songs at the same time and just mute the one you dont want to hear, this way when going from on to the next, the continuation sounds more natural and the difference is easier to tell :)
The 32GB of RAM is useful for running VMs for machines that interface with older operating systems.
The true serial is a serial port most probably directly connected to the laptop via PCI-E and not via USB with a fully compliant UART and DTE signalling.
Almost went that way. But I already have my phone with the Lepton in it.
The carrying handle is sexy, but I am not too confident with it.
Just a ThinkPad was okay
These things are perfect for accident prone jobs or military application… not for power but for communication or general use when in a bad area
This is the kind of laptop that Law Enforcement use. I work with a much older model of Panasonic Toughbook that is the same thing. A tablet with a keyboard dock. It has more I/O but is less modular,. These things cost over $2000 starting price.
What do you think about the switching to think pads
@@thanhavictus Thinkpads break if you look at them. Our company deploys only thinkpads and Jesus Christ I've been campaigning to switch for years. We do every model variant but mostly the T series.
@@kaldo_kaldo That's literally the opposite experience of everyone else in every way. Their modern P series are solid if you need something in the same brand.
0:36 gotta love those intel core 15s
The XPS is a pure legend when it comes to sound quality.
He said 'aboat' instead of 'about' at least twice...and I LOVE IT
I have a client with a Panasonic Toughbook CF-31 from around 10 years ago, and i had almost smashed that thing against the wall yesterday trying to get Windows to behave with the SSD. Too bad these things cost as much as they do, because we may just switch over to a typical laptop with a serial connector since they only have a couple meters to check with it anymore.
That's what warranty is for. get it fixed.
When you mentioned using one with gloves I suddenly realized why a lot of rugged phones still have keypads.
Yay, Alex is back
this looks like a great laptop for touring just due to its immortality
All I can hear for the first half of this is TimtheTatmans youtube outro
I’m clearly NOT in the market for one of those, and still I’m enjoying this probably more than I should
That background music at the beginning is giving me flashbacks to Verdaaaaaaaaaansk.
Thank you Alex for using the metric system :) but will it run Minecraft in the middle of the jungle ?
This things needs a dongle-less serial port.
They probably have an option to bolt one of those on somewhere or other. That seems to be the USP of the thing.
Ya I don't think they covered it in the video but I am pretty sure you can add a true serial port somewhere on this as you can with almost every other Toughbook product. Edit: nvm, well you always have this one's bigger brother the CF-33.
I like my dongle, thanks.
Yeah, having a real serial port is a "must have" for the field techs at my work.
So much of the legacy hardware we maintain uses good 'ol RS-232 for it's low level communication. Sure there is also Ethernet on the box, but you need the serial port to set the IP address in the first place.
This is kinda funny to watch after using these daily at work.
They're able to survive handling by EMTs, so pretty dang tough.
use the laptop screen as the speaker, thin film speaker, or anywhere, even the touch pad
The same royalty free music as Blizzard Guides Overwatch videos had me thinking I was watching the wrong video for a whole minute lol
What id love to see is a low power Laptop that has seperate batterys so you can take it on a flight with a huge battery, easy hot swappable and give us the option to easily swap the individual 18650's. I just need something to work with, a really lightweight OS like some Linux distributions that can do basic work like browsing and writing text, have a good Keyboard and enough usb's.
I am fortunately in the position of being able to own multiple pc's and have a Laptop and for more heavy work loads it simply use one of my tower pc's.
I came for the water bottle pour and go figure they were smart enough to put it at the end lol
It's excellent for Point of Sales operations, like in a train coffe car
My old Panasonic electric shaver still is a champ so this doesn’t surprise me lol
The aesthetic of this thing is amazing. I'd take one. ;D
for field biologist its amazing!!
We use the G1 at British Gas and it is terrible always crashing and ridiculously slow I f this is going to be the replacement going forward and possibly with us for the next 8 years then I despair already.
I want to take one of these into Starbucks to show off the spy novel I'm writing.
about "jane blond" ? ;-)