@A Vaan has some experience; he didn't ask the FIRST thing that came to his mind... "Uh... Fran? You know what Jote said about saying something to you 50 years ago?" Fran -- "Your point?" Vaan -- "Um... after 50 years... shouldn't you be sagging a bit more?"
She lived for such a long time and she left her home but she never been offended this much, I feel Balthier's pain when she walked away and stayed silent
00:41 - THIS ladies, gents and everyone else - is HOW YOU MAKE CHARACTER DESIGN - these two simple words, her mimics, tonality... give such a great insight of how Fran is mentally structured. she has ever since been one of my favourite RPG-characters.
This scene made people who are not familiar with Fran's character, think that she is a bitch. This is also magnified by current day issues. Fran was designed well, this was an absolutely poor showing of her good design. If Tifa had a scene like this and it was being widely circulated, NOBODY would like Tifa.
I have to disagree :) this happens in an early point in the game where the characters don't really know each other that well yet, so yeah, she was just marking her territory@@megakazuya123
lol. It's not just the question itself, but also the fact that they were discussing a somewhat serious matter when Vaan suddenly changes the subject and asks Fran her age in front of everyone. Not only was it an invasive question, but he asked in the most inappropriate way.
Ok, i understand that is lack of respect, but he never had a girlfriend, never had parents for teach him the lesson, never went to school and he grew up in the poverty. How he suppose to you know about this thing?
My two assumptions are, Penelo knew, so should he. If he’s a thief, he would be a people watcher and learn how they behave, meaning he’d have a better understanding of how people would react than a person in school.
My guess is she didn’t expect him to say that. Also, the scene is great for comedic purposes to balance out the seriousness, so the devs probably wanted to keep it that way.
@@kayayday5993 Wait a second! "He would be a people watcher and learn how they behave"? Have you ever seen some thief to care about that kind of thing?
@@FF-Nationapparently male viera live solitary lives, and only return to their home villages every 3-5 years to mate. They also pick an of-age male viera to take with them and train over the next several years. Supposedly, according to lore, that training is incredibly grueling and has a high mortality rate.
@A Well, actually, I like that. Although, I was pertaining to what Balthier said, "Nice, Vaan.", where it sounds like a pun. You know, because it sounds like "Nice one.". Albeit, yours was genius. 💜😊☺️💜
@A Hahaha! It's alright. No worries. Well, I do know that my comment was vague though so it's understandable. I'm happy that you found it funny though. Also, I see what you did THERE with the BalTHIER humor which I can't unHEAR too. Hahaha! 😆😂🤣
@A Hahaha! I just freaking love her. When I played the game, I haven't found my fave characters yet until Balthier and Fran first showed from the game. At first, it was Ashe and Penelo but we really didn't clicked. Hahaha! Anyways, I agree. It's always the little things. I really appreciate you and thank you for the interaction and responding to me. I also deeply, genuinely and sincerely apologize for the late response. Same and likewise. God bless, keep and stay safe, and take care always. 💜✝️😊☺️🤗🥰💜 Stay an epic, legit and lit savage. 🔥👊🏻🔥
I remember some big RUclipsrs saying that this game was shit. It's very different in style and flow, but it's actually pretty great once you get used to it. Might replay the game since I haven't touched it in ages
@@EvilRyuGuy nah, Vaan completely drives the plot through the first third of the game. He does lose purpose after Penelo is rescued, and that's even acknowledged in a cutscene; where Ashe asks him what he wants with this, and he says he has no idea, but think he'll find out uf he sticks around Even then Vaan is still the one who brought the group together and he's a major influence in Ashe's development
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt I feel even tough he was implemented at the last minute, the writers tried to do something with him, he get some really good scene, like that scene where you see give Galbana Lilies on Reks's dying bed was really strong, showcasing how much even a normal citizen like Vaan lost in this war. All the part from where he meet Basch at Barheim was actually on point, that's just how a child his age would react if they found out the man who, supposedly, betray and murder his brother. The last great scene with him was in Jahara, his discussion with Ashe really let us show he was starting to mature, admiting that he was childish, that his dream to become Sky Pirate was more of an excuse to escape a reality he couldn't face until he met Ashe and start the journey, really this scene was setting up Vaan for even more character growth, sadly due to probably time constraint pass Jahara he doesn't get anything anymore, and get pushed aside in the story to a more comic relief role, which is unfortunate I really think there was potential for Vaan that is left unexplore.
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt his only two purposes were to have the sky pirates meet Basch/Ashe and also to be Ashe's pocket therapist. Everything else he is non existent 😂
Thank god for that. One barrier for me getting super into XIV is the weeb aura. Or maybe it's just the neckbeard screen addict vibe from the community that most MMOs are tainted with.
Everyone's reaction to Vaan's mistake perfectly captures the fans' reception to Vaan as a main character: *disgusted sigh* "Surprisingly rude..." "...Try to grow up please." lmao
@@Gisbert-12843 ashe is the main character of ff12..but basch plays a big factor as well as gabranth larsa and vayne..vaan and penelo have no business being in the plot honestly lol
@@Gisbert-12843 Balthier is the leading man and nothing will convince me otherwise! Every other good character is so boring in that game, especially Ashe and Vaan.
Don't understand why everybody hates him. Ashe saved Ivalice from war, but Vaan saves all of Ivalice by defeating Yiazmat. He's the true hero of the game. Don't care what anybody says.
@@rapidfire9999 What the hell? Revenant wings? How have I never heard of this game??? Final fantasy tactics is probably my favorite FF, so it's a shocker that this title slipped by me
@@We_Are_Borg_478 LMAO Calm down, buddy! I'll explain it. Revenant Wings is the FFXII's sequel. One year later, Vaan is now the commander of the Sky Pirate squad, along with Penelo, Kytes and Filo. This game is for Nintendo DS.
I enjoy this scene more and more as the years go by. XII is hardly as grim as XVI ended up being, but it was really the first time the series took itself so seriously and removed a lot of funny interactions. This was really the only one, and it’s a cute little chuckle amongst the rest of the seriousness.
ugh ive never played this im only after searching up scenes of Fran because I saw her design and liked it but this is so funny. i love the expression of your man vaan there
Am I the only one in here who actually likes Vaan as one of the main characters? He may not have the biggest importance in the later parts of the game, but he's a good character That aside, this scene will always be funny
I don't mind him, but he's pointless. He's just a backseat passenger. It's different, but I can't say it's particularly harrowing to watch him. It just makes me want to follow Balthier's story more, cause it IS better. Like a Han Solo movie should be ;D
his character development end after he forgive Basch shortly before he rescue Penelo. if only they keep some bad blood with Vaan and Bash or better yet let Vayne manipulated him to betray the party or shit
He ask her her age in front of everyone carelessly after mentioning she’s over fifty years old wish will make her open for age insults, and was nothing of anyone’s business.
yeah lmao and fucking women get offended about get asked what are their weight and they get angry as fuck but when they want height 6'0 men which is like 10% of men was that height and men just dont care about that...then women piss me the fuck off about this is girls can fix their weight but we men cant fucking fix our goddamn height to suit their fucking preferences get the fuck out of here lmao!
Passed this part not too long ago. Hilarious. Also I coulda sworn this part of the game happened much later when I played the original when it first came out.
I love that in the JP dub, Baltier doesn't say a thing and shrug in disbelief Implying that to Baltier, what Vaan did is way worse than anything that happens in game
Love this game! Hate that in the newer version they only allowed you to have 2 different class jobs unlike the original where you had access to them all. Still love the story too!
The Newer version expanded the weaponry and the lack of optimization back then means that Vaan Will always be the best character while the others will be his second fiddle. At least in the newer version he can play support and others can utilize their strengths.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f that doesn’t help against the stronger bosses lol just made them weaker against everything to make it seem like the bosses were stronger. Twas a stupid part of the remake
Never ask a woman her age... especially when said woman is a Viera who's a few centuries old and has spent that time training in the art of butt-kicking
I honestly have trouble understanding this in-universe. If a species doesn't degrade with age, why are they still embarrassed about it instead of flaunting it and bragging about their life experience?
I remember seeing the character of Vaan marketed as the main protagonist and rolling my eyes but I tried this game anyway and it was amazing. He wasn't bad at all, just a kid and nor was he or anyone else really the main character. It made more sense when I later learned that Basch was meant to be the main protagonist of this story but the creator was told to have a young teenaged character for the story instead.
Ashe is pretty clearly the main character, Vaan is just the point of view character. The Ishmael to Ashe's Ahab. Both end up far more interesting than Basch ended up.
Except THAT story is a total myth. Vaan and Ashe were literally shown at the E3 reveal of the game's existence. In fact he was one of the first characters to be developed at all. The only slight truth to the story is that some of his character traits were syphoned off to Basch, who was one of the LAST characters to be designed. It also completely misses the point that there isn't one central character, it's an ensemble piece. Although if anyone is, it's Ashe.
I think it's funny that whenever you look at a cast in a Final Fantasy game from X onwards, you can usually spot the player character by trying to find the least likable one in the room. I mean, it sums me up as a player but come on.
Vaan did nothing wrong and the response he got from the PT was absurd... He asked a creature of a different species how old they were, when statements made about her age did not line up with her appearance. This is like calling someone "immature" because they asked Supergirl how old she was, after being told that 100 years ago she did something and she looked 20 years old.
It’s a good question though I would want to know everyone’s age in my group if I was a Final Fantasy character and I want to know their life stories. Since we are traveling together we should get to know each other it’s weird that they are a bunch of strangers that don’t know anything about each other and are just on a long adventure together and are very uncomfortable with being asked questions about themselves.
@@liamgettis1458 there's also another one in Murthu Bazaar, near a stairs. She sit alone there, and it's really fun to talk to her whenever I go there, you'll understand if you try it.
@@BrickleYourFrickle That is wrong, Vaan was always meant to be the main character, the developers changed VAAN'S appearence from a big and buff guy to a young kid, that is all
What a ridiculous overreaction, he didn't asked if she was a virgin ffs. And Fran is acting like those insecure girls who are ashamed of their age, which is totally out of character
If she is a Viera, she should have a different reaction to that question and specially she is not human, Viera don't grow older as Hume does, so this shouldn't be much of a problem
![Tidus Laughing Scene - Final Fantasy X-HD Remaster [English, 1080p]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bXZhTb0eUqA/mqdefault.jpg)
0:45 The almost infinitesimal motion of everyone quickly looking at him is peak comedy.
Lmao it's so instant. It's fucking perfect
Fran: “your point?”
Vaan: (this could be bad. Quick! Think. Recover.) “so how much do you weigh?”
I know why he pissed lightning off.
@@Caim6311 You know what they say : "Don't ask a woman about the rabbit ears"
🤣🤣
Thats funny
I would've asked how long do viera live
Fran: see this is why we all pretend you're not the protagonist of the game
I like how Basch doesn’t give vaan crap cause basch is a homie
Yep, Basch is such a cool guy
Basch thinks he did Vaan a worse injustice by getting Reks killed. At that point; there is little Vaan would do to earn his ire.
@@gilian2587 Basch: vaan were you not taught to think before you speak
Vaan: "stares motherfuckerly"
@A Vaan has some experience; he didn't ask the FIRST thing that came to his mind... "Uh... Fran? You know what Jote said about saying something to you 50 years ago?" Fran -- "Your point?" Vaan -- "Um... after 50 years... shouldn't you be sagging a bit more?"
That's right!
The fact that he does the same thing with Y'shtola hahaha
I thought the same thing when I saw that scene too! xDD
Opera Omnia?
@@rapidfire9999 yes
@@xombie9383 I saw it
@@rapidfire9999 me too
She knows EXACTLY where this is going when she asks, “Your point?”
And the disappointment that follows.
She was giving him the opportunity to retract before too late.
She lived for such a long time and she left her home but she never been offended this much, I feel Balthier's pain when she walked away and stayed silent
More reasons to hate Vaan the dumbest most worthless protagonist in any FF game.
@@timmytimmymit5607 that's your opinion, there is people who actually like him
"Surprisingly rude" - Larsa Ferrinas Solidor
more like surprisingly sensitive bitches
I remember playing this on PS2, and my siblings and I just going "oooh you messed up boy" in unison 😂
The secondhand embarrassment emanating from this scene is harrowing. And hilarious.
00:41 - THIS ladies, gents and everyone else - is HOW YOU MAKE CHARACTER DESIGN - these two simple words, her mimics, tonality... give such a great insight of how Fran is mentally structured. she has ever since been one of my favourite RPG-characters.
You are so right. They even nailed body language.
She was Inspire from Chewbacca from star war too
@@user-nu8vw1ow4n Oooh yeeeah. Weirdly true LOL
This scene made people who are not familiar with Fran's character, think that she is a bitch.
This is also magnified by current day issues.
Fran was designed well, this was an absolutely poor showing of her good design.
If Tifa had a scene like this and it was being widely circulated, NOBODY would like Tifa.
I have to disagree :) this happens in an early point in the game where the characters don't really know each other that well yet, so yeah, she was just marking her territory@@megakazuya123
lol. It's not just the question itself, but also the fact that they were discussing a somewhat serious matter when Vaan suddenly changes the subject and asks Fran her age in front of everyone. Not only was it an invasive question, but he asked in the most inappropriate way.
The face Larsa makes as soon as Vaan asks kills me everytime 😂😂😂
"What did he just ask her?!"
I never noticed this but it's hilarious!
Ok, i understand that is lack of respect, but he never had a girlfriend, never had parents for teach him the lesson, never went to school and he grew up in the poverty. How he suppose to you know about this thing?
Good point.
My two assumptions are, Penelo knew, so should he. If he’s a thief, he would be a people watcher and learn how they behave, meaning he’d have a better understanding of how people would react than a person in school.
@@kayayday5993 So why Penelo didn't warned him?
My guess is she didn’t expect him to say that. Also, the scene is great for comedic purposes to balance out the seriousness, so the devs probably wanted to keep it that way.
@@kayayday5993 Wait a second! "He would be a people watcher and learn how they behave"?
Have you ever seen some thief to care about that kind of thing?
Could have saved it with "How long can Viera live?" instead of making it personal.
Or what was it like back then, anything but asking a lady her age or weight.
Btw, According to the FFXIV wiki a Viera can live up to 240 years.
That would require Vaan to have more then two brain cells to rub together
Do Viera reproduce asexually? I don't think I have ever seen a male version. Of course, I'm not actively looking either.
@@FF-Nationapparently male viera live solitary lives, and only return to their home villages every 3-5 years to mate. They also pick an of-age male viera to take with them and train over the next several years. Supposedly, according to lore, that training is incredibly grueling and has a high mortality rate.
Oh god, the way everyone's head turns when he says it.
The collective silence and the wide shot at :48 are genius
*"Nice, Vaan."*
I see what you did there, Balthier. Hahaha!
@A Well, actually, I like that. Although, I was pertaining to what Balthier said, "Nice, Vaan.", where it sounds like a pun. You know, because it sounds like "Nice one.". Albeit, yours was genius. 💜😊☺️💜
@A Hahaha! It's alright. No worries. Well, I do know that my comment was vague though so it's understandable. I'm happy that you found it funny though. Also, I see what you did THERE with the BalTHIER humor which I can't unHEAR too. Hahaha! 😆😂🤣
@A Hahaha! I just freaking love her. When I played the game, I haven't found my fave characters yet until Balthier and Fran first showed from the game. At first, it was Ashe and Penelo but we really didn't clicked. Hahaha!
Anyways, I agree. It's always the little things. I really appreciate you and thank you for the interaction and responding to me. I also deeply, genuinely and sincerely apologize for the late response.
Same and likewise.
God bless, keep and stay safe, and take care always. 💜✝️😊☺️🤗🥰💜
Stay an epic, legit and lit savage. 🔥👊🏻🔥
Fran voice actress is amazing.
Suprisingly this games has aged like fine wine from a gameplay & story standpoint despite mixed opinions from the fans
Isn't that like all the older Final Fantasy games?
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 Like all the Final Fantasy actually.
I remember some big RUclipsrs saying that this game was shit. It's very different in style and flow, but it's actually pretty great once you get used to it. Might replay the game since I haven't touched it in ages
Top 5 for me
Unlike FFII and FFVIII. And how FFXV will age storywise. Oh, and this is Top 5 for me too
This is the closest thing ff12 has to an anime style awkward scene.
It's also the closest thing ff12 has to Vaan being relevant.
@@EvilRyuGuy nah, Vaan completely drives the plot through the first third of the game. He does lose purpose after Penelo is rescued, and that's even acknowledged in a cutscene; where Ashe asks him what he wants with this, and he says he has no idea, but think he'll find out uf he sticks around
Even then Vaan is still the one who brought the group together and he's a major influence in Ashe's development
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt I feel even tough he was implemented at the last minute, the writers tried to do something with him, he get some really good scene, like that scene where you see give Galbana Lilies on Reks's dying bed was really strong, showcasing how much even a normal citizen like Vaan lost in this war.
All the part from where he meet Basch at Barheim was actually on point, that's just how a child his age would react if they found out the man who, supposedly, betray and murder his brother.
The last great scene with him was in Jahara, his discussion with Ashe really let us show he was starting to mature, admiting that he was childish, that his dream to become Sky Pirate was more of an excuse to escape a reality he couldn't face until he met Ashe and start the journey, really this scene was setting up Vaan for even more character growth, sadly due to probably time constraint pass Jahara he doesn't get anything anymore, and get pushed aside in the story to a more comic relief role, which is unfortunate I really think there was potential for Vaan that is left unexplore.
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt his only two purposes were to have the sky pirates meet Basch/Ashe and also to be Ashe's pocket therapist. Everything else he is non existent 😂
Thank god for that. One barrier for me getting super into XIV is the weeb aura. Or maybe it's just the neckbeard screen addict vibe from the community that most MMOs are tainted with.
Her line reads are always fantastic.
Frantastic.
Everyone's reaction to Vaan's mistake perfectly captures the fans' reception to Vaan as a main character: *disgusted sigh* "Surprisingly rude..." "...Try to grow up please." lmao
But he is not the main character.
He is sooooo not the main character.
@@JoyousOblivion who is it then? i dont find xii to have one officially.. for me it still was Ashe though
@@Gisbert-12843 ashe is the main character of ff12..but basch plays a big factor as well as gabranth larsa and vayne..vaan and penelo have no business being in the plot honestly lol
@@Gisbert-12843 Balthier is the leading man and nothing will convince me otherwise! Every other good character is so boring in that game, especially Ashe and Vaan.
This game is a masterpiece
Oh lord... as a southern raised farm boy, I didn't just cringe at this, I winced expecting a slap upside his head lol
And people wonder why I LIKE Vaan.
Don't understand why everybody hates him.
Ashe saved Ivalice from war, but Vaan saves all of Ivalice by defeating Yiazmat.
He's the true hero of the game.
Don't care what anybody says.
@@We_Are_Borg_478 Because they didn't played Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings.
@@rapidfire9999
What the hell?
Revenant wings?
How have I never heard of this game???
Final fantasy tactics is probably my favorite FF, so it's a shocker that this title slipped by me
@@We_Are_Borg_478 LMAO
Calm down, buddy! I'll explain it. Revenant Wings is the FFXII's sequel. One year later, Vaan is now the commander of the Sky Pirate squad, along with Penelo, Kytes and Filo.
This game is for Nintendo DS.
@@rapidfire9999
Sounds like fun!
that moment where you imagine Urianger in Balthier's place...
I think a lot of us introverts can relate to this: asking a personal question without thinking about how someone might feel.
Not all introverts are blunt
@@ahmedfalahy9337 More like not all introverts have low EQ.
@@cliveybear This would be more SQ.
If you were introvert, you'll know how to not let your guard down and avoid these situations
lol its ironic most blunt people are the extrovert one not the introvert. introvert person always think before they speak
Vans like 14 lol. He’s a orphan. Who was raised by his brother before his brother died in the war.
Dudes so innocent
He's 17. and 18 in Revenant Wings
I love the silence after his question, and instead of the usual crickets chirping it’s some birds 😂
I like him ironically
I enjoy this scene more and more as the years go by. XII is hardly as grim as XVI ended up being, but it was really the first time the series took itself so seriously and removed a lot of funny interactions. This was really the only one, and it’s a cute little chuckle amongst the rest of the seriousness.
Vaan really knows how to step in it, doesn't he? xD
ugh ive never played this im only after searching up scenes of Fran because I saw her design and liked it but this is so funny. i love the expression of your man vaan there
Balthier is like:
Nice kid u pissed off my wife...now she wont stop complaining 🤣
literally the translation of "Nice Vaan.."
Ashelia's disgust 😂
I don’t care what anybody says, FFXII is easily one of the best Final Fantasy games.
Second favorite for me only after VII
Even Ivalice has cringe culture 😂
Am I the only one in here who actually likes Vaan as one of the main characters? He may not have the biggest importance in the later parts of the game, but he's a good character
That aside, this scene will always be funny
Probably.
I don't mind him, but he's pointless. He's just a backseat passenger. It's different, but I can't say it's particularly harrowing to watch him. It just makes me want to follow Balthier's story more, cause it IS better. Like a Han Solo movie should be ;D
@@CleverGirlAAH Vaan is basically Tidus if you changed the line "this is my story" to "this is this other guys story."
Nope, you're not the only one.
his character development end after he forgive Basch shortly before he rescue Penelo. if only they keep some bad blood with Vaan and Bash or better yet let Vayne manipulated him to betray the party or shit
She didn't even dignify it with an answer lol
And people say they don't like the characters in FF12. Why again?
Stuff like this really do a good giving these characters life is a nice natural way.
I like the callback to this moment in dissidia 012
Vaan asks about cosmos' age, before pondering how long she has been keeping world B afloat😊
Wow this dub is fantastic!
I played this game years ago but I remember this pain
“Try to grow up, please”
grown ups don’t get offended by that question
Nor do we ask that question. AT least the gentlemen amongst us.
@@tomwalker8944You misspelled tool.
I laughed so hard at this and cringed at the same time
ff12 is so special cuz the artwork is so unique compared to the other titles
Ffs... It's not rude to ask someone their age. Hopefully, the world will eventually grow past this ridiculous notion.
He ask her her age in front of everyone carelessly after mentioning she’s over fifty years old wish will make her open for age insults, and was nothing of anyone’s business.
@@Hwoarang8ify Do you think someone in the party would insult Fran over her age? LOL
It's not the age. It's that he wasted effort on such a trivial matter at a moment where everyone has better things to think about.
@@specialnewb9821 Yeah, still overreacted to oblivion
yeah lmao and fucking women get offended about get asked what are their weight and they get angry as fuck but when they want height 6'0 men which is like 10% of men was that height and men just dont care about that...then women piss me the fuck off about this is girls can fix their weight but we men cant fucking fix our goddamn height to suit their fucking preferences get the fuck out of here lmao!
HCBailly's reaction to this was great
Passed this part not too long ago. Hilarious.
Also I coulda sworn this part of the game happened much later when I played the original when it first came out.
Vaan
Well, at least he didn't call her ex a loser, right Cloud?
The algorithm is telling me to replay this game
Vann: But that wasn't me! It was CAPTAIN BASCH OF DALMASCA! DON'T BELIEVE ONDOR'S LIES!
I love that in the JP dub, Baltier doesn't say a thing and shrug in disbelief
Implying that to Baltier, what Vaan did is way worse than anything that happens in game
This may be the best scene in the game lol.
Pop-up shows on the top of the screen: [Everyone cringed at that]
Bunny girls always creating drama where there isn't any.
I thought Vaan is actually the simp in Final Fantasy XII
Damn, but Yo this music tho!
I would do the same question
Can Vaan ask about the ears?
Oh look! it's the best game ever created!
Never ask a man his income, a woman her age, or vaan to grow up
Love this game! Hate that in the newer version they only allowed you to have 2 different class jobs unlike the original where you had access to them all. Still love the story too!
The Newer version expanded the weaponry and the lack of optimization back then means that Vaan Will always be the best character while the others will be his second fiddle. At least in the newer version he can play support and others can utilize their strengths.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f that doesn’t help against the stronger bosses lol just made them weaker against everything to make it seem like the bosses were stronger. Twas a stupid part of the remake
Poor Vaan ahaha
It wasn't his fault.
Never ask a woman her age... especially when said woman is a Viera who's a few centuries old and has spent that time training in the art of butt-kicking
way more awkward than Tidus laugh tho
That's to be debated.
I honestly have trouble understanding this in-universe. If a species doesn't degrade with age, why are they still embarrassed about it instead of flaunting it and bragging about their life experience?
Vaan is literally me...
I dont get it what did he do
0:47 penelo disappeared¿?
Well at least Tidus is better with the ladies.
AHAHAHAH
0:56 too bad Balthier doesn't mean a ooooo 69 nice
I remember seeing the character of Vaan marketed as the main protagonist and rolling my eyes but I tried this game anyway and it was amazing. He wasn't bad at all, just a kid and nor was he or anyone else really the main character. It made more sense when I later learned that Basch was meant to be the main protagonist of this story but the creator was told to have a young teenaged character for the story instead.
Ashe is pretty clearly the main character, Vaan is just the point of view character. The Ishmael to Ashe's Ahab. Both end up far more interesting than Basch ended up.
Yeah, FFXII is plain as day Ashe’s story, regardless of who the avatar character is.
Except THAT story is a total myth. Vaan and Ashe were literally shown at the E3 reveal of the game's existence. In fact he was one of the first characters to be developed at all. The only slight truth to the story is that some of his character traits were syphoned off to Basch, who was one of the LAST characters to be designed. It also completely misses the point that there isn't one central character, it's an ensemble piece. Although if anyone is, it's Ashe.
Woulda asked the same thing myself 😆
Considering the Viera lifespan being 50 is like she’s in her teens, why was she offended?
I think it's funny that whenever you look at a cast in a Final Fantasy game from X onwards, you can usually spot the player character by trying to find the least likable one in the room. I mean, it sums me up as a player but come on.
my lovely frann the hottest!!!
I hope i look that good at age 60 or 70😂
she over few 100. 50 years ago was like her teen days
Vaan did nothing wrong and the response he got from the PT was absurd...
He asked a creature of a different species how old they were, when statements made about her age did not line up with her appearance.
This is like calling someone "immature" because they asked Supergirl how old she was, after being told that 100 years ago she did something and she looked 20 years old.
It’s a good question though I would want to know everyone’s age in my group if I was a Final Fantasy character and I want to know their life stories.
Since we are traveling together we should get to know each other it’s weird that they are a bunch of strangers that don’t know anything about each other and are just on a long adventure together and are very uncomfortable with being asked questions about themselves.
I mean its not that bad of a question but
Was kinda rude here indeed
No rizz
More reason to hate Vaan
If Vaan wasn't Vaan, he could be a good protagonist
He just had to direct the question in a different manner without making it personal, but he is too dumb for his own well being.
He`s not much of a protagonist but he`s a genuinely fun character who works well off of other characters and his interactions with them.
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@@anwytg5970 fan de cawin ?
Vaan grew up in a city filled with Viera
There`s one Viera in Rabanastre and she`s in the guild hall.
He probrably didn't know that they live that long
@@liamgettis1458 there's also another one in Murthu Bazaar, near a stairs. She sit alone there, and it's really fun to talk to her whenever I go there, you'll understand if you try it.
The dude grow up in poverty and steals people's money and hunt creatures for living, this shouldn't be a surprise
Why is Vaan even in this game?
it's a mystery to all
@@trashprime6171 I guess I should be grateful to him as I really Iike Penelo 🤷♂️
Because the creators wanted him in there..? Are you another one offended by this question?
@@BrickleYourFrickle That is wrong, Vaan was always meant to be the main character, the developers changed VAAN'S appearence from a big and buff guy to a young kid, that is all
@@BrickleYourFrickle The original protagonist was supposed to be Basch, never Balthier, but then again Balthier would make a good protagonist.
This game has some of the worst dialogue audio ive ever heard.
ps2 compression, the had to cut corners somewhere unfortunately
was this supposed to be a funny scene?
honestly i found it funny, but fran being mad isnt... :D
What a ridiculous overreaction, he didn't asked if she was a virgin ffs. And Fran is acting like those insecure girls who are ashamed of their age, which is totally out of character
"If you were a hume you'd be an old lady."
Exactly! The humor here is very far-fetched.
Never make a woman feel old, women feel as they age, they look ugly and stuff.
If she is a Viera, she should have a different reaction to that question and specially she is not human, Viera don't grow older as Hume does, so this shouldn't be much of a problem