Ranking all the Bikes I've Owned

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @Opressed
    @Opressed Месяц назад +317

    I was always curious what Edward Snowden was riding through the years

    • @ProfGoodlife
      @ProfGoodlife Месяц назад +2

      Came here to leave this exact comment. You beat me to it.

    • @ericmackintosh5933
      @ericmackintosh5933 Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @kalifaatx9429
      @kalifaatx9429 Месяц назад

      Nah he’s iman gadzhi

    • @deso5889
      @deso5889 14 дней назад

      I stumbled upon this because I left “Cyberpunk 2077” out of my search and ended up with results for just “bikes ranked”.
      I don’t know who this guy is, or why anyone needs to know specifically how he personally ranks the bikes he has owned - but I like it. That is work. I haven’t even watched the video yet - but bro…
      This comment has reached me by mistake, and it still made me laugh from across Internet dimensions. I’m suppose to be mixed into a gaming algorithm 😂

  • @reubenabela3063
    @reubenabela3063 Месяц назад +506

    "i dont want this to be a 30 minute video" - uploads a 30 minute video

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +81

      Finished the edit and it’s almost exactly 30 min 😂

    • @reubenabela3063
      @reubenabela3063 Месяц назад +14

      @@NorCalCycling i'll let it pass cos you rated my T1550 with an A 🤣

    • @acemodean
      @acemodean Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @alfabethev2.074
      @alfabethev2.074 Месяц назад

      With a LOT of ads. alooot!!

    • @michaelcullen4990
      @michaelcullen4990 Месяц назад

      ​@@NorCalCyclinggood review, I enjoyed the video 💯 I like the oldskool equipment and carbon bikes myself,
      I use a 1999 us postal trek 5500 with 10 speed instead of 9and I love it, fits like a glove I much prefer it to the modern stuff, it's lightweight, reliable, nice geometry and very comfortable and competitive with today's standards I feel, new subscriber from 🇨🇮👌

  • @larrylinder242
    @larrylinder242 Месяц назад +86

    Great video Jeff...you make me a proud Papa. Love you man!

  • @Nehpets1701G
    @Nehpets1701G Месяц назад +60

    The Venge is such a beautiful bike - it really has a soul.
    I could imagine if I was a young teen and into road bike racing, I would put up a poster of it on the bedroom wall.

    • @yourdeadjack
      @yourdeadjack Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @JoseLCiclista
      @JoseLCiclista Месяц назад +5

      I used to look at bikes all the time trying to decide which one was the coolest and ever since I saw the Venge I couldn’t believe how good it looked. Close second would be the cannondale system six

    • @vapor78
      @vapor78 Месяц назад +3

      Style have my s works venge 2020 and it’s rocking here in France. Love this bike.

    • @beefkd
      @beefkd Месяц назад

      if you fancy a slight curve in the top tube sure, just as ugly as the Dogma F but people think it's the Messiah 🤣

  • @eto2352
    @eto2352 Месяц назад +34

    Big winners: Venge- Specialized was ahead of the curve with this one. Winspace 1550 - for the money, it's holding it's own in A tier.
    Great video, enjoyed hearing your thoughts!

    • @inntw4889
      @inntw4889 Месяц назад

      Winspace was the biggest surprise for me. I had no idea it was that good. I also came away from this really wanting a Venge.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 Месяц назад

      @@inntw4889 same!

    • @mmfong297
      @mmfong297 Месяц назад

      @@inntw4889 Same here.. as a Specialized Fanboy, I am also surprised Winspace can go head-to-head with the Venge or SL7 Pro

  • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
    @AlbertBuckinghamEllison Месяц назад +6

    I can vouch for the Winspace T1550. I'm not particularly loaded but managed to scrape together about £3k over a year to replace my aging SL4 Tarmac.
    So the build was a maximum bang-for-your-buck race road bike challenge. Shim 105 Di2, Hunt Carbon 50 wheelset, Wheels BB86 thread-though, Pirelli P-Zero 28mm tyres. Moved saddle and pedals over and bought an FSA 110 ACR stem and Pro Vibe handlebar for maximum adjustability. Looks beautiful but minimal and easy to maintain.
    You can probably go 2nd hand and get a Madone, Tarmac, Addict or TCR. But if you want something brand new with a warranty and a bit of design maturity, good carbon quality with clever design considerations at a good price Winspace really is compelling. I've struggled to find many criticisms from reviewers so far and their factory tour was remarkable... which lead to my purchase.

  • @robs6750
    @robs6750 Месяц назад +6

    For the money, I love my 2020 TCR advanced pro. Paid less than $3000, with Ultegra mechanical and carbon wheels. The rims could be wider at 19.4 mm internal, but they are carbon. The bike fits me well and is very comfortable. Affordability and a reputable brand backed by a reputable brick and mortar bike shop, which is rare in this sport.

  • @Tsnor150
    @Tsnor150 Месяц назад +16

    Very enjoyable review. Nice job. What interested me was the criteria and how you felt about each bike. I don't own and don't plan to own any of these bike, but the 30 mins went by in a flash.

  • @fh6758
    @fh6758 Месяц назад +29

    Yesterday I was watching documentary about Ed Snowden. Today I was looking at the thumbnail and thinking, why the hell Snowden is ranking his bikes 😂😂😂

    • @k1dicarus
      @k1dicarus Месяц назад

      Its also how he talks. They could be brothers 😄

    • @SouthDL
      @SouthDL 2 дня назад

      I feel better to read this. Since it proofs that I wasn’t the only one thinking that!

  • @mikehall6608
    @mikehall6608 Месяц назад +14

    For the headset top cap, the right engineering term is "compression set". Initially the pre-load will apply a force to the cap, this compresses the cap by some mils (strain), and is met with an equal opposing force from the cap on the stem, resulting in stresses in the cap material - proportional to the pre-load. With plastics, over time you get what is called "stress relaxation", where the amount of stress in the material decreases, but the amount of strain stays constant. So you end up with a decreased pre-load, and eventually no pre-load, resulting in a rattly headset. To fix this, you just have to apply the pre-load again, and compress the cap again by an additional amount of mils - then the cycle continues, until you get to a point where the geometry of the cap no longer resembles what you started with.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +5

      Yep, a bad design that can be fixed by using aluminum

    • @cehlers41
      @cehlers41 Месяц назад +2

      @@NorCalCycling but wait this makes no sense to me. Preload is just that, PREload. Once you have the headset loaded the tightening of the stem should be holding the headset in place. What is different about this setup that that doesn’t happen??

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +1

      @@cehlers41 the preload goes away when the plastic top cap deforms

    • @cehlers41
      @cehlers41 Месяц назад

      @@NorCalCycling Is it because of the stem? Does it not bolt directly to the steerer like a traditional stem does? Maybe that’s the part I’m missing.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +2

      @@cehlers41 normal stem. the headset cap is under the stem and gets squeezed during preload, but eventually deforms. Even though the stem doesn’t move that cap is no longer providing compression on the bearings

  • @paulflory3532
    @paulflory3532 Месяц назад +1

    "stock configuration" makes me smile. Almost by definition on a race bike one changes stuff as one goes along, even if just wheels and gearing. I'm no longer racing, but my current "A" bike is a custom frame built up with the collection of components I had on my previous bike, then gradually upgraded to other components here and there. So "stock" is an elusive concept.

  • @jeffpabilonia
    @jeffpabilonia Месяц назад +3

    built Aethos frame up with SRAM Red, Roval Rapide Cockpit, Zipp 303 Firecrest... of course it's light...climbs, handles and descends as good or better than SL7, fast and aero on flats, very comfortable with multiple centuries each year, and so easy to maintain

  • @matkrek
    @matkrek Месяц назад +4

    I always wanted a Venge but the Winspace T1550 really hit the spot. Great to hear your positive comments on both

  • @Bonboy2012
    @Bonboy2012 Месяц назад +12

    Nothing wrong with the longer video 😄

  • @jrasero23
    @jrasero23 Месяц назад +4

    My two bikes are a 2022 Scott Foil RC (last gen) and a 2023 Winspace T1550 with mostly SRAM Force D2 and I can say the WInspace T1550 is a maybe a tad too niche in that it's not the lightest (17.25lbs with pedals, cages, mounts, sensors, heavy saddle, tubeless) and it is almost unforgivingly stiff, but for the money the only bike that really compares is a Canyon but those come with cockpit fit issues where you are paying about $1000 more once you factor in the $100 shipping fee, $230 Pace Aeroo drops, and $200 Pace T Bar for a Canyon Aeroad SLX Ultegra Di2. In contrast my fully built T1550 Disc Force D2 with a Red chain and cassette and 2023 Hyper D45 with GP5000 S TR, SWORKS Mirror Saddle, BBInfinite one piece Ceramic BB and and Ceramic Oversized Jockey wheels cost $6000. Now for some the $1000 to go with a big name brand even though it's direct to consumer is well worth it because as you can see the resale value of Chinese direct to consumer bikes isn't great and some people probably are still skeptical on customer service.

  • @xyomama4u2
    @xyomama4u2 Месяц назад +7

    >snaps frame in half and collarbone
    'wow this was the best thing ever, s tier'

  • @lukewalker1051
    @lukewalker1051 Месяц назад +18

    To this day, there are riders who won't sell their Venge. Cult bike.
    Thanks for the review Jeff.

    • @inntw4889
      @inntw4889 Месяц назад +2

      I want a cult bike.

    • @lukewalker1051
      @lukewalker1051 Месяц назад

      @@inntw4889 I have one. A 2012 Specialized Roubaix SL3 with rim brake and no future shock that Cancellara won the Paris Roubaix race on.
      I work as a mechnical engineer in design and there is a concept. The concept is...'sometimes' a Mona Lisa is created. Everybody is astounded by its overall 'correctness'. Then...designers of course make a living by changing things and trying to upsell the next model as an improvement which is the basis for marketing and company profit but no, Mona Lisa's are rarely recreated. Only way to go is down. Sometimes, after a period of floundering, there is even a return to a tried and true theme...like a threaded bottom bracket after a decade of screwing the public with every adaptation of press fit under the sun. Many believe the Venge was such a bike with uncanny speed and stiffness for its level of aerodynamics.
      In fact, I ordered the Roubaix SL3 frameset after reading all the reviews gushing about it and Cancellara winning on it sealed the deal. Extremely light, snappy flex and stiff enough out of the saddle. Best 'all arounder' I have ever ridden even though it may not make Jeff's list of great criterion bikes as Jeff is a higher watt rider than me but not Cancellara. There are other great bikes as well. And of course Specialized ruined the Roubaix with a stiffer rear triangle which destroyed the wonderful ride quality with the SL4. The rest is history. I would never own a boat anchor heavy modern Specialized Roubaix.

  • @derekkuhl
    @derekkuhl Месяц назад +1

    Love my Soloist. Rode a Emonda for years. Got a chance to ride a Soloist at camp and was sold. Selling the Emonda.
    One thing though that does not get as much press as it deserves is geometry and fit. The Soloist was so much better for me geometry and fit wise. For many of us, a bike that fits can move a bike from a personal B class to a personal S class.

    • @cnosby
      @cnosby Месяц назад

      Yes. The geometry and fit is perfect. I came from a Domane.

  • @MrKrekkie
    @MrKrekkie Месяц назад +1

    Hired a Tarmac with 105 mechanical groupset for a holiday back in 2015. It was a great bike which gave me a very confident feeling.

  • @davidfrisbie4169
    @davidfrisbie4169 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! Ever since I 1st started watching your channel I've wanted you to make this bike comparison video. I greatly appreciate your unflinching honesty in all of your review videos. It helps us enthusiasts for whom spending $2500 on a bike, plus extra for wheels and components means something.

  • @patrickmohl3723
    @patrickmohl3723 Месяц назад +2

    Jeff, something else is going on with your Soloist if you’re needing to constantly add preload cap displacement in order to maintain preload on the bearings. At the loads that a headset experiences, the plastic topcap has more than enough surface area to not undergo plastic deformation. If that were the case, you’d be experiencing the same thing on the Tarmac and Foil (and probably others too) which also have plastic topcaps.

  • @the_lime_
    @the_lime_ Месяц назад +4

    If I remember correctly, the CL50's were supposed to be tubeless compatible, but Sagan had a massive blowout jumping up onto a curb close to the launch date of the wheel set. Rather than deal with a potential recall or a delayed launch, Spesh just removed the sticker from the packaging. I don't remember if Sagan was just unlucky or if there was a flaw in the manufacturing

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +5

      ya, teammates ran them tubeless and didn't have problems, it just doesn't fill me with confidence when the manufacturer/engineers aren't backing that technology.

  • @danielsotelo3942
    @danielsotelo3942 27 дней назад

    Wow, great video, not boring as it kept me at the edge of my seat as you were spot on in all the details. I've been a professional mechanic since the stone age in 1967. In 1978 I quit road-racing 400cc production motorcycles to become a Cat-4 on a bottecchia. A year later I got me KOGA Miyata Aero Team, which landed me in Cat-1 in less than 1.5 yrs racing for Team Carson (So Cal). I too focused on wheels using ARAYA TiTa Ace titanium rims and was the first to use wide 27c Clement Del-Mundo tubulars. That bike was Amazing at high descending speeds as I used to speed balance my race wheels and would leave everyone in the dust descending major mountain roads. Anyways, I can see you descend pretty fast too, so you should learn to speed balance your wheels as you will go much faster and your bike will feel like it's on rails... Anyways, I'm a fan. Thank You, Dan Sotelo

  • @bart1001001
    @bart1001001 Месяц назад +8

    Roval CL50 on Venge Pro were tubeless ready. Roval Rapide CL I on SL7 Pro and CLX I on S-Works SL7 were not.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +1

      Noted. I wasn’t running tubeless road in 2020

  • @brannmitchell4602
    @brannmitchell4602 Месяц назад +2

    One thing I'll say about the SL7 is that, at least mine anyway, it is very, very stable at high speeds. Well, I don't go much above 35mph these days, but it feels confidently planted, not affected by crosswinds too much, and goes exactly where it's pointed. That's S-tier for me! Maybe it's all the big, aero headtube energy, or something.
    I had an aluminum Allez Sprint for a while, that bike felt like it was actively trying to hurt me :D

  • @rodrigocampani4555
    @rodrigocampani4555 Месяц назад

    Lucky you to have ridden so many different bikes. Thanks for sharing your experience

  • @ambulowan
    @ambulowan Месяц назад +2

    Without these things you mentioned about the Foil would it be above the Tarmac Sl7 and the Venge in terms of stiffness and handling?
    Is there something like too stiff of a bike for you, especially on bad roads where you feel it actually cost you Watts.
    Also do you differentiate between the different stiffnes of a bike lateral vs the others?

  • @henrikmadsen6446
    @henrikmadsen6446 Месяц назад +1

    2021 SL7 S-works - what a beauty, I would install the two halves in my house as art.

  • @paulhartzer10
    @paulhartzer10 24 дня назад

    Built up a foil and installed a deda alanera on it with a shim and a 3d printed top cap for a clean look, its literally the perfect bike!

  • @departurexx1520
    @departurexx1520 Месяц назад +3

    Hey Jeff, if the VENGE is on ENVE 5.6 tubeless setup would you rank it higher or would you still race on it? 😜

  • @benhardwick1970
    @benhardwick1970 Месяц назад +2

    Great video! I’m building up the new winspace T1550 gen 2 with ultegra di2 and magene db508 wheels for racing next season. Looking forward to racing on my first ever aero bike

  • @ChinCycling
    @ChinCycling Месяц назад

    Great video Jeff, I’m moving from my fully aero Ribble Ultra SLR and building a Soloist with SRAM red and Enve 4.5s, can’t wait to until it’s done, I think it’s the most underrated all rounder bike out there which is strange considering how good it looks aesthetically and the premium brand of Cervelo

  • @ChiTownBrownie89
    @ChiTownBrownie89 Месяц назад

    This is the realization I have had lately, a lot of the guys I race against in the 1/2s are like you, racing in that category longer than I have been racing.

  • @jgrefrath
    @jgrefrath Месяц назад

    Such a great trip down memory lane. This video is a historian's keeper.

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 Месяц назад

    In talking to P12 racers at Grit this year, the Winspace is pretty universally liked as a race bike. Price isn't a factor on Jeff's list, but it is for everyone else and the Winspace is basically half the price of everything else here. Also, the new version has a T47 BB and uses more advanced manufacturing processes.

  • @FiloVF4
    @FiloVF4 25 дней назад

    You should try riding a Dogma F. For many years I thought that you are paying only for the logo, but after one mountain ride with many technical corners,... I fell in love with it.

  • @robertjmillerma1059
    @robertjmillerma1059 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the honest evaluations 👍 really helps a lot 👏👏👏

  • @911norman
    @911norman Месяц назад +1

    Jeff should be an official bike tester!

  • @cory1newton
    @cory1newton Месяц назад

    I loved Franken Felt! Probably commented on it back then too. That was such a great video you made about it, neat reveal. Right up my alley.

  • @jackbackus2183
    @jackbackus2183 Месяц назад +2

    I had that exact same Venge (gorgeous green) and sold it. Stopped racing and it was one bike too many. Have regretted it ever since! 😢

    • @Up2L842moro
      @Up2L842moro Месяц назад +1

      You or he could buy another one used and have a sort of re-Venge

  • @badumdish1997
    @badumdish1997 Месяц назад +1

    There is an alloy stem for the Foil that costs 100 bucks I think. It's a bit on the heavy side but with that you an run any handlebar you want

  • @DamascusHarris
    @DamascusHarris Месяц назад +3

    I don't race but I started riding in 2006 and my journey mirrors yours somewhat. My first bike (a Fuji Newest 4.0 that was $400) was stolen from the garage along with my wife's bike. I took the insurance proceeds and bought a 2008 Fuji Roubaix Pro which I rode for 11 years. Shimano Ultegra mechanical, rim brakes, carbon fork. I upgraded the wheels to some decent Mavic aluminum ones with 23mm tires. I did not maintain that bike well outside of getting an annual tune up during the last 6 years I owned it. I gave it to my brother in law who still rides it.
    My first carbon bike was a used 2012 Wilier SR1 DB that I bought in 2019, with a frame that was one size too large. It came with Sram double tap (which I came to like) and mechanically actuated disc brakes with hybrid calipers. I learned A LOT about bike components, bike fit, doing my own repairs, tire sizes and compounds, as well as riding metrics on that bike. I then sold it and got a 2022 Trek Domane SL6.
    I had bought a set of Bontrager 50mm carbon wheels that I used on the Wilier (which I sold with the Fulcrum 4 aluminum wheels I bought it with) that I swapped out for the Bontrager 25mm aluminum wheels that were standard on the Trek. I enjoyed the Domane well enough. I bought it the day I had knee surgery and figured that the excitement of a new bike would push me to train on the other side of of it. I was right. It was a good bike but sluggish when compared to Wilier. One day I did a repair on the Fuji I'd give my brother in law and was struck by how damn heavy the Domane was.
    I just sold the Domane and bought an 8th gen Madone Sl6. I've upgraded the rear hub on the Bontrager 55's so they are snappier (DT Swiss 350's, I did that while still on the Domane as I realized the hub on the Bontrager 25mm's were quicker) and I'm finding the Madone to better. Turns out I like race geometry when it is sized right.
    Thanks for sharing your journey and rankings.

  • @spoon0857
    @spoon0857 Месяц назад

    Proud to be Soloist owner....lets Go!!!! (top cap is easy to fix, get the R5 top cap it fits and pair up with Cervelo Stem ST31 (carbon) or other Vision one piece handlebar

  • @RobertSimpson-wp3pr
    @RobertSimpson-wp3pr Месяц назад

    Kind of nice. All those bikes, different feels, helps keep things fresh and new. Plus they last longer when you ride a variety.
    I'm the same except old school. Bianchi 928, Cervelo RS, Daccordi Vinci (custom) not sure I'll ever be able to afford your high standards butin happy and appreciate your videos

  • @bucketlist.original
    @bucketlist.original Месяц назад

    4:05 That blue and yellow Specialized is the Bike I've got today and which got me into road biking!

  • @brockjennings
    @brockjennings Месяц назад

    The bicycle I miss the most was my old 2003 Jamis Quest. It was Reynolds 531 steel in an all chrome finish. First generation SRAM Apex and bombproof 32 hole Velocity Aerohead hoops. Total mule.

  • @aaceytuno
    @aaceytuno Месяц назад +4

    Your ranking looks like a standard Distribution curve , which means your ranking is more than likely correct (statistically speaking) .

    • @pierremaggi8661
      @pierremaggi8661 Месяц назад +2

      Only if he was picking his bike independently, which he was not ;)

    • @Janthonyx
      @Janthonyx Месяц назад

      Only normal distributions are correct?

  • @littlevo9
    @littlevo9 Месяц назад +1

    I have 2023 sl7 s-works it’s the best bike ever made !!

  • @aldrinclementina4297
    @aldrinclementina4297 Месяц назад +1

    The First one. The rear part is called wishbone. That rear carbon part was meant to soften the ride. The Aethos is a conventional / classic bike but expensive.

    • @soulsurfer8797
      @soulsurfer8797 Месяц назад

      Check out his hand symbol at 4:21 in the video….clearly waving the “Ok” symbol aka WP symbol. I would unfollow this guy.

  • @decoherence926
    @decoherence926 19 дней назад

    As someone that owns the Cervelo Soloist, I approve of this video.

  • @lolbubs11111
    @lolbubs11111 Месяц назад +1

    Giving the Felt FR with hydro disk brakes and 11sp di2 and clearance for 28s or whatever the same rating as the 2012 era rim brake bikes that could only clear 23s is criminal man. That one deserved at least a B.

  • @GregMethven
    @GregMethven Месяц назад

    Very helpful Video, confirms my own thoughts 100% . Puts my Evo where I expected and my old felt and TCR too 😮! Thinking 🤔 of buying a new bike so very timely! Thanks 😊

  • @fuxiuyan6063
    @fuxiuyan6063 Месяц назад +1

    I believe all Venge are made in fact11 carbon as the different between Swork and pro are in the titanium bolts that come with the bike.

  • @fpeter01
    @fpeter01 Месяц назад

    4:03 My first road bike had narrow tires and I was soooo afraid in turns/goingo into roundabouts. 28 mm was a really big improvement. The sweet spot is 30-32 mm for normal use. 28 was scary on gravel paths, 32 gives you more confidence. But as a mtb rider, I think every tire is narrow under 2 inch. :d

  • @MyDadWasALifeguard
    @MyDadWasALifeguard Месяц назад

    Interesting video..I had a S-Works Venge that was the worst bike I’ve ridden my 40 years of riding..it was gifted to me too..I got a few rides out of it and gave it away to my brother in law
    The older German made Canyon Ultimates and really any modern Time bike have the been best in my experience
    I use to ride for Webcor as well

  • @DjDeepfry1
    @DjDeepfry1 Месяц назад +1

    The Aethos is UCI approved and raced in the Tour de France by Kasper Asgreen in 2021.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +1

      The frame is but the s works build is not because it comes in under the weight limit. If he was using the frame they had to add weight elsewhere so he was better off using a tarmac. Marketing stunts like this aren’t uncommon

  • @hedleykerr3564
    @hedleykerr3564 Месяц назад +1

    Great video Jeff! 2013 I had the a Felt F1 then 2 years are team went to Focus Izalco! My friends would always ask where’s your Felt. I would say the Felt was nice but now it’s time to get Focus!

    • @Gabrielle4870
      @Gabrielle4870 Месяц назад

      I started on 2009 Fuji Roubaix, the Apollo then Cervelo R3...now I have the Focus Izalco Max 9.7 - I think the new Focus bikes are very different to the old ones. Worth a comparison... to me it is a do it all bike.

  • @SRK5227
    @SRK5227 Месяц назад

    I have a Fuji Roubaix 2.0. Put 5,000 miles on it. Really enjoyed it, but it's comparatively heavy. On an Ultimate now, but the Fuji now serves honorably as my Zwift trainer.

  • @Soycatdad
    @Soycatdad Месяц назад +2

    I wonder what your take would be on a Pinarello, lets say a Dogma. Very curious as to what your critiques, pros / cons would be.

  • @seansims8805
    @seansims8805 Месяц назад

    2014 focus izalco pro is my ride . Im 55 its agreat , want the Van Rysel rcr but my eco situation isn't par for such. Rides excellent and ive stuffed 28s on it😊

  • @JeffreyThistle
    @JeffreyThistle 22 дня назад

    I also miss the Venge, was sad when they stopped selling them.

  • @TwilightCloak
    @TwilightCloak Месяц назад

    Great video, enjoyed hearing your thoughts!

  • @kailoonteo1719
    @kailoonteo1719 Месяц назад

    Would love to see super bikes in late 2000 era vs today's super bikes. How both A and S tier bikes a decade apart fair against each other.

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak Месяц назад +1

    I'm not sure what the Ultralight RC was supposed to be. Like you say, it was heavy. The straight Ultralight was pretty light. Your hair looks S tier in this vid, btw. Who's your stylist?

  • @MichaelMa
    @MichaelMa Месяц назад +1

    I'm sure Durianrider spit out his carb smoothie while watching this video.

  • @jazemkrzysio
    @jazemkrzysio Месяц назад

    30 years ago I left my sport for riding bike. Because that was very technical free flying models, which you entirely make yourself, trying to make it technically better than all others, when it came for bikes, I felt forced to make myself entire bike, as there was still pre - WWII technology involved in racing bikes. When I lost my CF Red Arrow in car crash , I started buying bikes, because they eventually started to get better. But because my old habits, it never crossed my mind I could buy entire bike! It always had to be 100% spec. I wanted, including some parts I made myself, especially my very compact handlebars.

    • @motogp9253
      @motogp9253 Месяц назад

      Did you ever watch Obree (2018), the cyclist who's bike was pieced together from part of a washing machine that he designed, he won many cycling events but kept getting banned!

  • @Miriboy
    @Miriboy Месяц назад

    Jeff, always a biggest fans of your video. It was your channel that got me interested into crit racing. Love it. Plase keep up the good job in providing excellent content!
    I own the spesh Venge S-Works (the lastest version) and got it since 2020. With all the advancement in the bike industry up until now, I had always wondered how does the 2020 Venge compared to today's most advanced technological bicycles.
    How would you rate the Venge if you were to change out the Roval wheelset with the 2020 Enve AR wheelset (tubeless ready hookless disc wheels) and also, how would you compare that to the latest SL8 S-Works (or any other most modern race bikes)?

  • @DELIVERINGRoutes
    @DELIVERINGRoutes Месяц назад +4

    The cl50 on the venge where tubeless ready.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад

      Noted. Strange they went back to not tubeless ready. In any case I wasn’t running tubeless road in 2020 although I should have

  • @dfbdf3324
    @dfbdf3324 Месяц назад +1

    Listen to this Specialized -- WE ALL WANT A NEW VENGE

    • @Miriboy
      @Miriboy Месяц назад +1

      Impossible. The current Venge is already the fastest... when Spesh released it, it was 15 years ahead of its time.

  • @bigwil91
    @bigwil91 Месяц назад +3

    keepig my Venge 4 life!

  • @dannb0dge
    @dannb0dge Месяц назад

    Still a bit gutted to this day that I picked the SL6 Tarmac over the Venge when I was building my "dream" bike.
    I love my Tarmac but there's something about the Venge I want.

  • @lennart_1232
    @lennart_1232 Месяц назад

    I saw the whole thing. Maybe you could do another video about what you would recommend to get for which purpose. You seem to have gathered much experience about what is useful on bikes and what not.

  • @Tomatron2k
    @Tomatron2k Месяц назад

    Great vid, thank you!
    I’ve recently got the 2023 Tarmac SL7 with Shimano 105 Di2 and upgraded wheels. Bike now weighing in around 7.5kg. Since you’re experienced on Specialized and Tarmacs in particular I’d love to see you video/get your thoughts on how they compare.

  • @ebsalonga
    @ebsalonga Месяц назад

    Since you got the Enve stem on your Soloist, you should get the top cap that’s made for that stem.

  • @highfived
    @highfived Месяц назад +8

    I’m so surprised about the poor review of the giant tcr I never heard bad review of a tcr before very interesting

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +10

      wasn't that bad, just wasn't that good, which perfectly describes the tcr 😉

    • @highfived
      @highfived Месяц назад +1

      @@NorCalCycling it was a bad review and extremely short too but I love your channel keep up the good work brother

    • @scottwatson7844
      @scottwatson7844 Месяц назад +3

      Was it the spec that held it back or the frame. Need to be more specific.

    • @DanaBlack
      @DanaBlack Месяц назад

      I think the "bad review" from the public in general shows when you look at used TCR prices and they're a lot lower than "comparable" bikes of the same year

    • @alfonsokhiew2872
      @alfonsokhiew2872 Месяц назад +3

      To be fair, it was a base level TCR. And that base bike is pretty meh after all. So not wrong in his assessment

  • @roby330i5
    @roby330i5 Месяц назад +1

    Cheers! That was an entertaining 30 mins.

  • @Wheels419
    @Wheels419 Месяц назад

    Try an Argon 18. It’s my go to ride. Small production but fits like a glove

  • @terbennett
    @terbennett 14 дней назад

    I feel bad for the BH. It was a lightweight bike. If you pulled of a sub 17 lb build with those R500 wheels, that speaks volumes. Those boat anchors are usually found on Sora or Tiagra builds. An Ultegra build like the BH you had deserved better wheels.

  • @AustinIsTheGreatest
    @AustinIsTheGreatest Месяц назад

    Lol, glad to know felt sold out to those press fit bottom brakets i had trouble with as well. Corporate really wanted to save like $8 per bike and make us all suffer trying to fix the creaks.

  • @CannedFishFiles
    @CannedFishFiles Месяц назад

    Before e-bikes and scooters took over the city, I used to see the Eurobike all the time. I knew what it was, I could never believe it when I saw it.

  • @KoenMiseur
    @KoenMiseur Месяц назад

    Love my Aethos (I don't race) S-Tier for me (it also looks so good)!

  • @benvicius672
    @benvicius672 Месяц назад

    Going back to Ultegra mechanical was hard 😂. That's right up there with the spare Dura-Ace drawer.

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад

      15+ years of gear accumulation and obsession with this sport. But don’t be fooled, expensive equipment isn’t a prerequisite for success

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 Месяц назад

    Simply put ...
    _There is something good in all of the bikes that don't pay for but, among them, I prefer the ones with the biggest MSRP._

  • @bensummers1835
    @bensummers1835 Месяц назад

    Hearing for the first time ever that CL50’s aren’t tubeless after having had them on my gravel/CX bike for 4 years

  • @ryan_wang2370
    @ryan_wang2370 Месяц назад

    Hi Jeff. I believe that you put a Scott addict instead of foil in the B level!

  • @keepit100kg
    @keepit100kg Месяц назад

    Man...makes me want a Venge even more.

  • @shanel2811
    @shanel2811 Месяц назад

    Well reviewed with real life experience!!!

  • @edam9461
    @edam9461 Месяц назад

    I've got a felt FR2 and agree that it wouldn't be a very good Crit bike as it's not stiff or Aero enough. My geo was more aggressive than the Canyon aerode of the same year just less stiff. More of a road racer than Crit racer.

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman Месяц назад

    Great video Jeff, thanks! Two questions, 1) which would you designate as your "favorite" bike of all time? and 2) of these bikes, if you had to pick one to do all of your riding from this day forward, which would it be?

  • @JuanAsencio-jc2ms
    @JuanAsencio-jc2ms Месяц назад

    in defense if the BH, which ive owned since 2014, the RC model is designed to be more comfortable that The Ultralight, and Ultralight EVO, which i also owned for some years. In my opinion, The EVO was truly amazing for crits and climbs. not flex at all, compared to the RC.

  • @JonathanHair
    @JonathanHair Месяц назад

    I'm still on 23s! I rarely ride my road bike and need to wear them out before upgrading

  • @mypojam
    @mypojam Месяц назад

    Was a bit surprising to see Aethos in the B category but then I realized this list is for racing! Phew 🤗

    • @Mattskis36
      @Mattskis36 Месяц назад +1

      Aethos is the people's bike!

  • @CarlosRojasBaritono
    @CarlosRojasBaritono Месяц назад

    25:27 we understand all CAT-A are close to the tarmac in prices and components at this price point it has to be perfect.

  • @BradleyPierson-p2m
    @BradleyPierson-p2m Месяц назад

    Great video. How have you liked the Enve 2-piece aero cockpit on the Soloist and are you still happy you chose it over the Enve one-piece?

  • @NeimanLevenson
    @NeimanLevenson Месяц назад +6

    get the R5 top cap and R5 spacers for the soloist. they work so much better. just take the very top spacer and sand the lip in the back down some so it sits flat. integrates nicely with any integrated bar/stem combo too. Im running r5 top cap/spacers with black inc aero integrated bars

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад +1

      pro tip, thank you!

    • @NeimanLevenson
      @NeimanLevenson Месяц назад

      @@NorCalCycling absolutely, they look great on the soloist

    • @cnosby
      @cnosby Месяц назад

      I have the R5 top cap and spacers. I had that issue after about a month of ownership. Haven’t had it happen since. It’s been a little over a month. Hopefully it was just a one time deal.

  • @Cinnabuns2009
    @Cinnabuns2009 Месяц назад +1

    I like when you say, "HEAVY like an aluminum race bike" when the difference between a carbon and aluminum frame is like 1lb and with UCI regs, you can't go below ...what? Aluminum is fine.
    A 1" steer tube instead of std 1.125" is absolutely FINE to shim and use a standard whatever on it. The weak point is the 1" steerer, not the shim. That is some marketing brand lock-in shenanigans from Scott right there. B.S. Similar to Apple non-sense.

  • @Bearzly19
    @Bearzly19 Месяц назад +1

    @norcal cycling can you talk more to the soloist from different types of races? And with the different bar / wheel setups? I know you’ve got a season on it but have kept changing stuff up

  • @Climate.Realist
    @Climate.Realist Месяц назад

    I really was between getting the Soloist or the Enve Melee. And after hearing the critique about the stem I really am happy I went with the melee.
    Just sad that you haven’t ridden it in order to rate it as well.
    I would assume it might not be as stiff as you would want it to be. But that’s just something I‘d guess.

  • @Savaios
    @Savaios Месяц назад +1

    20:00 You can compress them with alluminium cap and then swap it for plastic back. I do not see issue.
    Btw do you think that pure areo heavier frames are much more durable for heavy riders due to more materials used?

    • @NorCalCycling
      @NorCalCycling  Месяц назад

      You must be thinking about the cap above the stem, I’m talking about the one above the frame, below the stem

    • @Savaios
      @Savaios Месяц назад

      @@NorCalCycling Ok sorry. So its really shit design then :D

  • @mathewemden2068
    @mathewemden2068 Месяц назад

    Making a prediction on favorite bike.... the green Specialized S-works that sadly broke in half when Jeff crashed.