How far can the Tesla Model 3 Highland really go and what does that cost?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Our new Tesla Model 3 Highland is out to work this week and this is the first long trip in it as part of our daily duties.
Firstly the school run and town driving and then a longer trip to Chichester and Dartford so a real mixed bag or roads and driving conditions typical of many a UK driver.
So with over 300 miles to do. What is the actual real-world range of this new Tesla. Tesla claim over 400 miles. It shows 342 miles at 100%. But what can it really do?
We put it to the test as we go about our normal duties anyway.
This is in “chilly” conditions, not sub zero but cold enough to have heater on all day, music on, multiple passengers and driving at speed limit. Really NOT trying to be efficient, just driving it as it is.
What’s the efficiency and how far can it REALLY go?
Watch the video to find out..!
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The rate of improvement of EVs is incredible in just 10 years. 300 miles at 70mph on a charge.
I need one.
Whether you love Teslas or not your vlogs are truly 'real world' and you provide an explanation which bears scrutiny. Thanks.
Glad you like them!
My favourite Ev Channel indeed , Richard is a pro at this and been watching since Covid time
Wow, that's incredibly efficient. Let's see an updated Tesla Vision only parking "sensor" test.
Coming soon. Its pretty good now though with some very clever stuff
First uk range test I’ve seen, impressive.
Great video - the efficiency of the Highland is impressive👍
Better range than i get in my ‘23 Model S long range 😂 that’s insane
Biggest challenge with Tesla at the moment is depreciation
This channel is the best as it gives no-nonsense, real-life values in real-life scenarios. A joy to watch. Nice work as always, Richard & crew!
Amazing video once again Richard. Looks like the Highland is great. Looking forward to more videos
So refreshing to see another person say that they’ve found the “no stalks” issue to be a non-issue.
I guess people who never bother indicating on roundabouts will see "no stalks" as a non-issue.
@@donaldduck5731 or maybe we’re just capable of using the controls provided.
As a former ADI (approved driving instructor), I’m pretty religious about correct use of signals, but I can see it works. I’ve seen plenty of people who’ve actually tried them out who likewise found they got on well with the controls.
I’ll book a test drive soon to see for myself.
You will probably get used to it pretty quickly, depending on your age and willingness, we took a new Model S for a test drive some months ago when my Model 3 was in service because it needed a new charge port since it was broken and wouldn't charge, and I gotta say I was one of those people who said they don't want no stalks, I still would prefer stalks, but it's not as bad as I thought it would be, sure it takes some getting used to but overall it is quite alright, Model 3 HL is said to have better haptic feedback for the blinkers so they will be fine, once people get used to it.
@@donaldduck5731 I dunno what roundabouts you take but I rarely take more than a quarter of steering wheel input when taking roundabouts.
The aftermarket will come up them anyway for those who want them back. Like the screen tilt kits that should be a standard feature in an Model 3s and Ys
As always, Richard, just love these 'real-world driving conditions' tests - you guys don't half do some serious miles, too...!!
Hats off to you. 😎
Wow excellent range. Good job Tesla. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Highland is so much better in all ways...gamechanger⚡️🚀🔥
Brilliant, thanks Richard. I’m test driving this tomorrow. We have a 2022 M3 and an old Toyota - time to get a stablemate 😀
Thank you for including the cost of the charge at the end! So many reviewers leave this out and its always a question i have in terms of how much charging costs. Thanks!
Great real world video. Amazing efficiency. Tesla engineering is so efficient compared to every one else.
I was previously a field service tech, living in South East London, covering London, Kent, Sussex, Surrey, down into Hants, occasionally as far as Bournemouth/ Poole.
You just replicated a "longest day" scenario substituting "time at customer" with "Waiting for Mercedes"
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Officially Service Technician approved!
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(Bearing in mind that an Employer actually wants you *on site* rather than driving, so these days are rare)
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This has potential (EV pun?) to become a great fleet car, even for the "lower salary" employees, due to the BIK and fleet running cost advantages.
Another great vid. Looking forward to the review.
I was amazed last summer when it was very warm. I averaged about 190Wh/mile down the M1 from the East Midlands to Heathrow. Model 3 LR, 2021.
great video, impressive results. Thanks also for the clear conversions to metric!
Will trade our 2022 MYP in on a refreshed Y as soon as they are available. Great video as usual. I did watch a US tester who got 332 miles of range at 70mph in the US from 100% to ZERO SOC.
i finally went for a test drive, the cooled seats, i need this in my model y ASAP!!!! ill be upgrading as soon as juniper is out
Thanks Richard. That weather makes me jeoulous after week after week of 35 to 40 degrees C here. Sweating our bollocks off 😅
It was nice to see a Tesla Highlander long range on a real-world test. Although here in New Zealand they have been available, I have not yet seen a performance test. Those figures are quite impressive for a long trip continuous driving. I also agree having no indicator stick is fine and you soon get used to it.
Great video from a great reviewer in real world text not quick 10 minute tests. I knew the indicators would ok to use like everything you adjust and then becomes normal. Just like owning an electric car.
Could you do a review of the ionic 5 Nan Sam you have in wondering whether electronic wing mirrors are ok in practice ? Also how’s the i5 stacking up a few years after release ? Cheers and your channel is great
Excellent and informative.As always. Any chance of doing similar in a SR Highland M3 soon?
Thank you!
Enjoyed your video 👍
You should test it against the previous LR to see how much a difference the tyres make. Drive in convoy to a destination, swap the wheels over and compare the return trip
impressive
Great to hear. Very professional.
Enjoying the Drum & Bass
That Merc charging speed was horrible.
I helped a delivery driver this week who picked up a 72 plate Model Y that had 8 miles on the clock, was in Transport mode and had 0% battery when the auction place drove it out. It had a flat 12V battery as well.
The service screen said there was 2% available and it was 5 miles to the nearest charger (shell). When we got there (phew) it started charging at 130kW despite being laid up for a year and being completely empty.
Gotta love Teslas.
EU Model Y doesn't even have a good charging curve though...
Tesla builds a great *System*
@cliveflint where do these 72 plate model Ys come from? I saw a couple turn up on tesla-info this week, all well under 1k miles, some under 200.
@@WillemvandenEnde The one I saw was at an auction in the midlands. No idea why it was there.
@@Danne89 A comment with nothing to back up your comment. Nice.
This is great to see thanks Richard.
No problem, thanks!
Wow! Great efficiency on that car!! Even more than previous model 3, which was impressive. I wonder how efficiency we’ll get on the highland SR when comes out 😊
Many thanks both,
Another very useful video
Looking forward to your thoughts on the old “no stork” for indicating before I think of ordering
Would like to use you guys the help sell mine if I do upgrade
Dan G Shropshire
While each step is small, the cumulative efficiency and range improvement over the years is significant.
Yep, that’s a definite improvement. 👍
Really good review. I wonder what result you would get from a Highland RWD?
Great content Richard. Did you use the autopilot on the motorway? Does that improve the efficiency?
Richard please do another test comparing old LR with thw new one in same longer drive. That would be very nice to know 🙏
Can’t wait for a review of the standard range Highland model
Tested an RWD model yesterday. It was certainly a much better ride and perhaps slightly quieter. I don't think it's a large enough upgrade from my 2021 LR though. Definitely felt tighter with a better ride quality though!
love these videos best ev channel
Wow, thanks!
Looking forward to the head to head comparison of the previous car with the Highland.
Superb👍😉💪
Love it - what’s the D&B track at 4:48
Thank you for this initial driving review.
The 4.5miles per kWh is very good for a motorway run, laughed at the EQC’s 2.5…
Lots of good info there. I was particularly interested in how the seats worked out for you.
I drove a new model 3 and an older Model Y, back to back this morning. My take on the indicator stalks is… Easy peasy, especially if you are used to an EV. I actually prefer them. Less fuss around the steering wheel.
Thank you! How quickly you get use to the lack of the Indicator stalks if at all?
Can we see a sound system comparasion between old and new, including the old standard one?
Also ordered one. But that range test is on cold conditions and winter tyres. So I expect in summer u get easily 550 out of the 678km estimated range
Mega! Having a test on Monday of the highland. Can’t wait to see the difference to my Y.
how was it ?...I have a y ...might go back to 3
That’s very impressive, especially in January. In August, you might get 5 miles per kWh.
LR is definitely the one to go for!
Amazing range
Thanks for the informative video. What I’d really like to see is the “real world” experience that most people have. That is driving at 81mph (when I’m in France and driving at the legal limit).
For me, real world is driving at about 80 km/h, or 50 mph. (The legal limit on most roads in Norway)
Seen a few requests for information about how to drive without the stalks. Could you include in one of your videos so new owners get a feel for it before they pick up their new cars?
Great videos as always Richard! Could you please include cost for supercharger charging as well? Then you have best (overnight home) and worst case covered. 😊
On the road again today and will do some charging!
I know it would be a lot more how much do you think to recharge on supercharger? Good content.
No indicator stalks, no thank you. Porsche tried this and added back the stalks pretty quickly.
Try it first. It's not big of a deal really.
Not sure if you’ve seen Harry’s Garage recent EV reviews but he’s started measuring the leakage from the kWh sent to the car vs the kWh stored and available as there seems to be a fairly large loss (heat?). It might be his set up and way of measuring but would be good to have a look at this on this channel.
I wasn't convinced about the removal of the stalks, but if Gints says you don't need 'em, that's good enough for me. Phenomenal efficiency. Tesla maintain their five year lead on the rest (except that the rest don't seem to be progressing very much).
Great video Richard. So around 10% more efficient than the previous model? Best regards Martin
Impressive. My Ford Lightning average is 2.2
If only it was Hatchback rather than saloon for me. But the videos are really good and informative even if Tesla can really do no wrong for you 😁😁
Really impressive efficiency given 9°C and a reasonable car full. I reckon that 342 miles could easily be reached through most of the year with average use.
I chuckled at Ginz's "Yep" reply to the Merc's efficiency question. It came a ton of sarcasm. 😊
The issue of battery degradation often goes unaddressed. As someone who tends to keep a car for more than three years, I do not see the appeal of purchasing an EV. Concerns arise when considering the need for battery upgrades down the line. Until there are significant advancements in battery technology it's a big NO for me.
Richard- great info.
I have a 69 Raven X LR and may swap with for a 20 S LR as like the bigger cabin. Watched your comparisons from the past to arrive at this decision. Also going to order a New model 3 LR for a sales Guy. Wouldnt buy anything other than a Tesla due to network.
You need to include other conditions in order to get a true picture… you touched on the weight but what about Wind (HW/TW), elevation change, actual speed etc… I have a ‘21 Model 3 LR (Heat Pump) and it advertised initially 353 miles… With my driving style, about 10mph over the speed limit in all conditions, Car now has 23,000 miles I got 254WH/mile indicated as average however, my realistic range is 250 miles with 8-10% remaining on any of my road trips.
I have put in my head that I can do about 2.5 miles for every percentage point around town and 2.3 miles for each 1% on Freeway trips. This way I always have at least about 20 miles remaining to reach a charger if need be.
Using the “percentage trick” I can always tell how far I can go very quickly just by looking at the state of charge.
Great video as always
Would have liked you to drive both of them together like you have done in the past :)
What battery storage do you have? Can you recharge the entire car?
70 kwH in NorCal Tier 2 is $35 per recharge. A 320 mi journey in a RAV4 hybrid is $32 -$40 today.
Parity has been achieved in some locales.
A great facelift if you ask me. Definitely improved the external looks. The interior has also stepped up a notch.
Very jealous!
I'd have to go for the Cherry Red and 19" sport wheels as that combination is stunning 👍
It would been nice to do this test also with the previous LR
Future videos… subscribe
Great video Richard, would be interesting to have your thoughts on what you would achieve at 60mph rather than 70mph if you have worked out why I might be asking?
Well..
If drag increases proportionally with speed...
70-60 would be a 27% reduction in drag.
Then you'd have to know what percentage of the energy use was attributable to just drivetrain....
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I would guesstimate somewhere between 10-15% reduction in consumption due to that speed reduction?
(There's better than the EPA quoted range?)
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Weren't ICE cars always quoted at "56mph" for the best consumption/speed balance?
Great video as always Richard - just had an extended test drive in the RWD Model 3, from Bournemouth Tesla. A good opportunity to compare against my 2022 M3 RWD. The new car is significantly quieter with more supple suspension, better, albeit higher seating, and a higher quality interior. Hated the lack of indicator stalks which caught me out trying to change lane on a roundabout. Also felt the regen braking was slightly less “on and off” with my domestic manager commenting on the smoothness of the ride. Also noticed a slight improvement in overall efficiency.
At just sub £40k here in the UK the M3 RWD represents good value imo, and should be capable of 250 mile range, even in winter. Personally could not justify the extra £10k for the AWD version.
I agree the rwd is the choice for most
Can you do a comparison 10 to 90 per cent using a v3 vs a V4 supercharger to see the differences please ?
That first 30 miles for the school run, is that all sub 30mph? I can never get anywhere near that figure but I'm straight on 50mph+ rural
How would this compare to the SR LFP 2024?
Very impressive range. Always interesting to me how different the ranges between different countries are. Here in Germany I normally drive at 130 - 140 km/h and then the range would decrease to probably about 200-250 miles. Basically if I would live outside Germany I wouldn't even consider the Long Range because the Standard Range is already more than enough in terms of range.
Agree. The LR has other benifits than only range though - 4WD, more HP, better sound system and a minor interior difference.
Thats the main reason why I bought the LR Highland over the SR.
@@p3tT4n1 Yes absolutely 👍
@@p3tT4n1and 10k more....and the battery with very old tehnology..
Is that real 130-140 kmh or what your car tells you? If it's on the dash speed, then it's normal in the UK too.
I drive 130kmh on the dash, but real world speed is 120kmh, so i don't get caught by the speed cameras.
@@ericandevaYou are paying for the increase in range, and for me personally a 100 mile difference in range, plus all the other bonuses, is well worth the extra 10k. It’s all a matter of what you value more, and either way it’s not like LFP doesn’t also have its downsides, compared to the long range batteries.
Also agree one of the best EV channels
It would be interesting to compare the M3rwd (Highland) in everyday driving to see how the single motor variant compares. My average consumption after 2 years in the M3rwd is 13.0kWh/100km (4.8mi/kWh). So considering dual motor cars seem to be about 10% less efficient and your drive yielding 13.8, things would look good for a real world efficiency of 12.0kWh/100km (5.2mi/kWh). Wow, mixing imperial and SI units is a PITA. Glad you at least added a caption with the conversion.
Since I got my M3, Tesla has removed the TACC radar, the US sensors, the passenger lumbar support, the drive select stalk and the indicator/wiper stalk. They have added ventilated seats, better sound proofing, ambient lighting and a rear seat screen (redundant in my case as I rarely have backseat passengers). All wrapped up in a nicer looking package. Will I upgrade? Probably not. I would rather stick with the LFP battery, the M3LR doesn’t have that and the Highland RWD isn’t enough of a gain for what I would have to pay to get it.
The range on the Highland Model 3 RWD beats my old Long Range from 2019! 👍
We recently tested a 2022 SR which also beat our 2019 Lr.
What efficiency are you seeing so far?
@@RSEV Done over 3000 miles so far. Picked up my Highland in November. I drove from Oslo to East Sussex over Christmas. 292 Wh/mile. Started with ice cold battery ( did it on purpose to test the LFP). Preheating went constant for the first 300 miles down to -7 degrees. So not comparable to UK! However I did measure 244 Wh/mile on UK roads, including. some motorway.(Nokian R5 winter tyres and no hubcaps)
Not so good in winter conditions in Norway. 😞 Only did 275 miles out of 390 (WLTP) Tested by NAF - Norwegian car organisation.
Thanks. Impressive range. The Merc was never going to match the Tesla range, was it?
Exactly. It just happened to be the car they were collecting that day.
How can stalks be no issue at roundabouts? Can you share your thoughts on that?
Good point, i'd have to test drive to see if there's an issue there.
Crazy that the new LR will easily break 400 miles during milder months. I'm still proudly rocking a late 2019 white M3 SR and it's only got about 8% battery degradation after 91k miles :D Will be keeping it for many years to come. I now see about 180 miles range in the winter, around 230 in the summer.
The chemistry will be so different now. Battery tech is like blooming iphones you don’t want to miss out on the next big upgrade or do you dive in. 😂 Waiting to see what this new Volvo EX30 is like. Been in it just not out for a drive.
@@SWR112 You get what suits your driving needs, those don't tend to change much normally.
Is the range on the new Model 3 LR matching that of the Model S LR, which has almost 15-20 kWh more usable battery capacity?
I’m getting RWD highland and I’m told to expect it to be the most efficient Tesla on the road. Old model 3 RWD was always more efficient than the LR and I expect that to be more so in the refresh.
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Hi Simon, I just can’t get my head round no indicator/drive stalks.. i’ve got a Cupra born and we all know that the screens freezes from time to time it can still be driven..great car I love it , My question to you Si is that if the screen on your tesla does freeze and you’re in the middle of manoeuvering i.e. 3 point turn say and the screen freezes your f--ed..
Regards
Chris…
Nah you can still do it. There's override buttons on the ceiling.
Im an audiophile....with 17 speakers, 2 subs, and 2 amps, can you please do a review of the sound system?
+300… the yardstick for non-Tesla EVs. It’d be interesting to see, for instance, real world range tests on both new ID7 and PS2 (LRSM), bearing in mind also Kia EV6, as I’m viewing these 3 at moment as key competitors to 3 and Y.
Very informative review as usual.
Would you consider testing the quite popular "Sexy buttons" (now supplemented by the rather unfortunately named "Sexy Knob") as an alternative for the indicators? (and other controls)
We did talk about it and might get them
I'm really considering refreshing my Model 3 LR 2021 (Frimont-made) with a brand new Model 3 LR 2024 (Chanhai-made), what do you think, should I?
which one to choose now model TYP or T3LR?
I have feeling if put the e-primacy tires on old model it would be very similar. wish they put 84kw battery in it ((
Can you record the percentage loss overnight using the security cameras. It was quite high in the early days would be nice to see if it's been fixed. Is phantom braking still a thing?
You can just check the percentage when you leave and check when you come back. In my 2019 model 3 it's usually only like 1% loss in a night.