Interesting video! My resolutions for myself in the furry fandom is to make an attempt to socialize more on furry vr. I live in a remote area without conventions and vr has been the closest I could get to the community. I always chicken out of furry worlds though.
Getting better roommates. The one i had for mff were terrible. I had to go and find people last minute 2 times while the host had 5 months to do so, they were generally inconsiderate for room staff, rooms mates and just people in general. The first day i had 2 no shows, resulting me having to find one person to room with us to we could actually relax in the rooms
im pretty sure they mean specifically those within a fairly short walking distance or perhaps set aside money for the quick uber over the expensive hotel. i also love the buddy system, try not to book a hotel room solo if you can help it, picka group of friends to go with so you can save a few rooms and dollars! @@SpamBoar
I think the problem with talking to media is the people who do it never have all their thoughts organized and end up put on the spot in a way that can make the fandom look worse When I watched that Fox interview, I wished so badly that he would just say in an organized and confident tone that furries don't condone inappropriate behavior in front of children, and that a lot of the inappropriate things people see or videos spreading online are happening either after hours or at hotel rooms. And then suggest the idea that one way to show that the furry community is serious about not being harmful to children is that at convention opening ceremonies, just remind everyone that we are sharing the hotel space with families and other guests who have children, so if there's going to be a party, they should party responsibly. That the con space and hotels for a family friendly con are not college dorm party spaces, so keep parties private and at a level that doesnt disturb guests in other rooms. And to report any suspicious behavior. And dont invite people you dont know to parties. Like, if he had just said that stuff and was better prepared, I think it would've been better.
I agree. Kinda of why I think there should be people maybe designated to speak with them? Not being prepared when the other person is usually doesn’t go well.
I think that’s the point. The media of today is obsessed with peddling controversy/drama or cherry-picking narratives that give them click bait headlines. They don’t care about actually telling the news, they care about what can get them the most views on an article. A positive outlook on the furry fandom doesn’t give them the headlines they want, they can’t make money off of a positive furry story, so they do everything in their power to push the most negative view of the fandom every time they cover it so they can make money off of the hyperbolic article names that come out of it.
it doesn't even matter, just don't talk to the media. at the end of the day they hold the ultimate power of editing what you say to fit their narrative.
I was listening to a local radio one day and an interview came on with a furry, the show hosts were asking him if he was a sexual predator and he just laughed it off and went “I personally am not haha” like he was accomplished for it or something.
@@SpamBoar over at Anthro con it was my understanding that if media wanted to interview furries they'd have to go directly to Uncle Kage, period. For years I would see people complaining about this at other cons or online saying that "oh uncle kage is just worried about making furry look squeaky clean or that he's "against" the adult side. But stuff like fox news and other disingenuous media reporters spin...is likely one of the biggest reasons why he held that policy. I've also seen FC in the past have designated media liasons. This needs to become a common practice imo, not to candy coat, but to prevent unwitting furs from getting taken advantage of with out of pocket questioning. Edit: OH! Another way this can be helped, have a how to talk to media PANEL that can better prepare congoers to tactical reporter questioning.
My hotel had its own contest. In each room was a trashbag with the rules, extra bags available on request. At the end of each day the housekeepers would nominate the least messy room. The rooms that got nominated the most got put in to a raffle. The winner had their stay refunded as a prize.
Holy cow the prize was to get your hotel room refunded. I've heard of giving a free night. And on that note I don't really ever have to worry about making a mess. I'm very clean and organized. I think I almost won one of those contests. At least the one room cleaner that came in was like this is the cleanest room I've ever seen.
@@pompadorbz9168 well imagine it taking 10min to pick up all the trash in one room (cause who needs trash cans when the floor is so handy; then an extra 15min added to the usual 25min to clean it. So losing a few hundred dollars to get a room back sooner you need for an incoming VIP isnt so bad.
I've been "in" the fandom for about 11-12 years now?? and hearing about the population of dancers going down hurts my soul so much. It was my favorite part of cons as someone who never got to go to one; spending each year looking forward to the new dance comp videos to see who my favorite was this time. But then again, late 2000s, early 2010s was a very dance focused time, at least more professional dance. Sure, people still dance a ton, but it's mostly half-assed trendy dances for likes and comments rather than to just have fun and experience the pure energy and bliss.
There's still that passion alive today, luckily. I went to ANW this year and probably like.. a third or more of the people in the dance battle were first-timers, myself included. There is a ton of talent and passion in the scene still.
Idk I saw floor wars and all the dance battles at MFF this year and I was super impressed, So much talent. Not to mention the fact that the stage seats were packed and alot of people had to sit on the floor
Great video. I'm very disconnected from the irl con scene so these are things I hadn't ever really considered. Also oh my God I NEVER see other boars. Swine gang rise up
So I noticed that the west coast cons don't have as big of a dancerfur scene as the east coast cons. But yeah it's gonna take a lot to grow the dance community. Workshops, exchanges, practice spaces, etc. I'm lucky that I'm programming staff for a couple cons focused on organizing dancer events, but not every con does that
Some good points, but there's a fair few issues that go a lot deeper and are a threat especially to vulnerable people inside the fandom, as well as the fandom itself whenever things go public and other people pick up the digital fallout from the aftermath. While our community prides itself on inclusivity and giving people regardless of heritage, faith, sexual orientation, gender identity or other factors a spot to socialize in, it also fails to keep those spaces safe. Problematic people are still given a platform, they and their following often times bully people out of the community altogether, and their views and ideals get a free pass, even if they harm the overll health of the fandom and the people within. Most people will have heard of some of the stories that eventually blew up and reached furry fandom, or even wider internet infamy, but that's only the tip of the iceberg. I've been actively participating in the fandom for nearly 20 years now, and experienced no shortage of these things first hand. There are many many good individuals out there who genuinely care for the wellbeing of others, but I cannot stand the fact its almost 2024 and yet just to name one of many, there's a furry that called a poc member of our local community a monkey on several occasions, was knowingly transphobic, worked with known alt-right supporters and yet they are still being celebrated simply because they own a fursuit and semi-frequently post adult imagery and videos. Knowing that, how can you even begin to convince others that the fandom isnt inherently sexual, if people throw common sense and every ounce of respect out the window that easily? We may have our own much, much smaller subgroups that are a bit more selective and careful about who's in them, but overall? Fandom's got severe issues... had them for a while and to me it feels they're getting worse.
About the size of cons and the accomodations availability, there is one thing that is out of anyone's control. It's that the fandom is growing massively, year after year. Small cons eventually gets larger too and are confronted to the choice of either evolving in a larger format, or stay small but thus face the issue of not being able to accomodate everyone. I'm going to attend my very first con in April, after 12 years in the fandom. It is a small one in France (We only have small cons anyway, by the US standard xD) with around 500 expected attendees, but the registration for a room at the hotel were open for 32 seconds ! That's quite scary hahah The largest con in France this year had 750 attendees but over 1 400 demands. That seems to be a rather big issue in Europe, apparently.
Cause of the news article thing my family became less agreeable to it Not knowing the twists and lies they put on it My intentions is to be a charity furry I wanna make people smile Not..ya know
I refuse to go to a con that has an attendance equal to a decent size town because I know things like registration, even at higher levels, will he (Hades). I would prefer to go to a smaller con where I can get through reg in minutes (most of the time) and can traverse the entire width, height, and breadth of the con in about 5 minutes. If you can do it, I highly recommend volunteering and registering at a higher level. You would be amazed how utterly useful having some people to help move things like charity auction items around is, and it only takes an hour or so. Higher levels give you more swag, but they also really help the con. Founders at MFM have bought the con sound systems, lights, etc., over the years. It has really enhanced the experience for all the con goers.
Also it's worth mentioning that BLFC takes place in Orlando. Anyone who's been to florida knows the humidity can get pretty brutal for much of the year, which I imagine would be very uncomfortable to fursuit in
Great video, I agree with most if not all of your points also 3:18 at MFF this year they had a FULLY IMPROVISED musical and it was absolutely hilarious, cons should definitely do more stuff like that, as both a furry and a theater nerd it was great to see actors in the furry fandom
Hotel bookings are something a Convention doesn't always have full control over. So often there isn't really any way for the convention to make it work. They have to talk to the hotel, and ask them to make it work. Individual hotels usually aren't working directly with reservations, they work through a central booking system. And that system receives reservations from more than just the convention. That's why you get rooms released all at once, or in blocks, or in a lottery. Because it's the "fairest" way for attendees, and the least work for the hotel. The best way to do it, using the tools available to most conventions, is either to issue booking codes to anyone who preregisters, or to create a reg level that includes a hotel room, or ideally both. And include in the hotel contract that rooms booked through the convention, can be exchanged with other congoers for no extra fee.
parking situations at furry cons, i believe if you have a room booked at at the main hotel you should have prioritized parking at the main hotel 😭 this year’s furpocalypse parking situation got overbooked n messy
We can't wait for 2024 Fur-Eh in the new venue. 2023 Fur-Eh was a blast, and the only feedback I think any of us had was that we may have outgrown that hotel. But that might also just be the memories of the night that 2/3 elevators broke down...
My con tip related to the last one is just call the hotel front desk and ask for big trash bags. Not the usual ones they give for the small cans in the room, but the big ones they use, because it's so much easier to load those up with junk during/after a party. Keep the room tidy throughout the weekend and then it's less of a hassle to clean up everything before check-out.
2:20 There should be a better way to assign rooms. I know two people who registered for both ScotiaCon and Confuzzled, the two big UK furcons, and missed out on both despite registering for residential tickets as soon as physically possible only to find out later that people from the US and mainland Europe got rooms. It's incredibly annoying as the UK only has two 'big' cons (1k people for ScotiaCon and 3k for Confuzzled) and they're always overbooked, residents of the country should be facilitated first IMO which is a hot take a lot of people wont like.
If "you" want more daces at cons go to the con board and tell them you want to run it. If "you" want a fursuit meet and greet over the fursuit parade go to the con board and tell them you want to run it. If "you" want a talent show go to the con board and tell them you want to run it. If "you" want more smaller fur cons create a con board and start them. If you have not gotten the theme here it comes down to if you "Spam the Boar" want something you need to make it happen your self as if someone else wanted it all that badly they would have already have done it. The vast majority of people are followers and will only do things if others will make it happen. I have not really gone to hotel cons for better than a decade now (three in better than a decade) as I just got tired of the entire hassle of it. I attend camping cons as people just can't go off and be in their little clicks as they do at hotel cons as people don't really want to be in tiny little tents for hours on end and actually want to socialize with the bigger group instead. Now I run the archery field as people actually want to participate in it. I had ran other events but people where just not interested in them so I stopped running them and ran what people actually wanted to participate in doing.
This! Totally This! I've started and ran things all the time to make it happen. Unfortunately I get burnt out. lol. But others have picked up where I have left off and its cool to see it flourishing!
As someone who is a director of expo at a pop culture con I would add don't harass the hotel staff...don't make their job a pain. It makes it really hard to on the con staff to negotiate for the coming years if the attendees are running a muck. Like doing illegal things or things that are disgusting.
Great video! I am gonna have to get caught up on some of your stuff, but I am glad to hear that you had fun at Fur-Eh! including the musical. The whole crew worked their collective asses off to make that a reality.
I would love to get a partial suit of my Fursona but I’m so picky with artstyle. Like it had to be very close to the style I applied for my Fursona that it doesn’t feel right if it wasn’t 😭
It felt weird going to Fur Eh! I'm from the states and my two 'local' cons were FC and BLFC. And now that I'm up here in the Frozen North, everything is so far apart. Fur Eh is the closest to me. It is really well run though!
Very informative video, a lot of excellent points. Not sure about the furry dance scene as I'm personally not into it but that saddens me to hear the perception of less participation overall. Could it be not good enough marketing to garner interest? Maybe covid kept people isolated that it smudged out more potential talent... its hard to pin point. Times do change though.. hopefully it kicks off again in the future.
Here are some smaller cons I know of! AqutiFur FurTheMore Howloween Fur-eh FurTheMore is in Crystal City Virginia! AqutiFur is near Wisconsin, not sure exactly where, my friend knows And Howloween and Fur-eh are the ones SpamBoar mentioned! Also Kite Windswept Wanderings shows tons of cons, major ones (BLFC, MFF, AC, etc.) but also smaller ones! I would recommend checking them out!
OMG I saw my shirt on there ñ that's so sad! I don't think we should give people who but things too much grief though. Afterall, how are people to know?
i like going to furcons but i went to tff and tfs last year and the panels kinda sucked, i went to denfur and had an amazing time at one of the panels, it was homebrew for alcohol and they told us about it, at mcfc there was one about trains! it was so cool, but the panels at tff and tfs last year were mostly all fetish oriented and sexual in nature to some aspect. it really has gone down hill, even in the dealers den
Ok im going say you guys are adorable. I appreciate what you guys are doing. I ga e a friend who's a furry. But its sad that people dont recognize their just people having fun doing be what they love. My hats off to you guys. And kerp up the good work.
Fursuit parade: Really depends on how it's run and what's the route. The footage in your video looks like the parade was basically in a parking lot. Yeah, that's not fun. At Nordicfuzzcon 2019 (Will be there this year again lol) the walk was through the huuuuuge lobby that even featured a koi pond. At Gdakon 2017 we just stuffed all the fursuiters (In suit) and spotters into buses and brought them to the historic old town of Sopot (Poland). Theater stuff: There's a theatre group in germany called the Furry Tail Theatre. They've thrown two really good acts at the past two Eurofurences. Other than that....Yeah More events are awesome. And not all the times the same ones....Like Paws on fire. Sure, it's an awesome event. but it's almost everywhere. And it doesn't have to be something....exotic. NFC has Fursuit Charades, for example. Simple but genius. Hotel room reg: There i LOVE what NFC did. Just spread the rooms through multiple hotels that are within walking distance to eachother. In Malmö you also have the option to just book another hotel that's within walking distance yourself. That's what we did. But that only works in walkable cities. *Evil stare on america* A friend hugged you at FC btw and sent me a picture because i'm also a boar. He was a very pink fox :P There need to be more boars.
There's no real solution to the reg line problem, bar mailing everyone their con badge, but that opens up a whole other can of worms (con badge can go missing in the post, international post sucks, etc).
Fursuit parades - so it seems BLFC did something similar to what I've proposed: a reverse Fursuit parade. That's where the furries stay in one place along a set path and the public walk the path to look at and interact with the furries. Hotels - This is certainly a much lesser issue at small cons. But then again Anthrocon, a huge con, doesn't seem to have the same problems as Midwest Furfest, an equally huge con. Why? Is it all about the hotel booking processes? Volunteering - I really want to but at the same time I don't want to divert my time away from meeting friends and doing activities at the con. The closest I've come is moving and setting up chairs in the main ballrooms at some of the smaller cons.
I think it would also help if there were bigger fur RUclips channels. It seems like it's really hard for anyone to break 1m subs even though I know the fandom is obviously massive 😅
Mon rêve est littéralement d'aider des conventions furry que j'aime (safety = j'y serai! èué Et tout ce que je pourrai faire!) Et d'en faire pleins!! En France et aux Etats-Unis! Peut-être ailleurs aussi! En France il y en a 2 qui sont très chill et bien gérée, je commencerai par l'une des deux pour ma première fois. ^.^ Heureusement, en France je n'ai jamais entendu parler des furries sur RUclips que je regarde qu'il y avait des allées de reventes de produits sous licences et se sont des conventions moins grosses aussi alors ils doivent peut-être pouvoir faire plus attention mais c'est une bonne chose car sa me dégoûterai de voir ça là-bas.
Very interesting video. I wanna talk about your points in order. - Absolutely agree about the resellers. I don't know why cons are letting them in when they claim to care about that. - Fursuit Parades are dying, sadly. They're much more common at Canadian cons (which is where the bulk of your cons are), and I've definitely noticed them being quietly retired at many US cons because there's just too many fursuiters nowadays. - I disagree with this one. The "fandom representative" niche has been filled by Uncle Kage for like the last 20 years, and I got skewered by folks when I did a short radio interview after a con I attended received a bomb threat. But I actually work in politics and in speech writing so I am totally comfortable talking to the media. I think the advice should be more "if you see a camera at a con, don't engage unless you're prepared to be on video". And a lot of furries just don't want that kind of attention which is perfectly fine. There's a reason I was also the first furry to ever make it to air on a Got Talent franchise! - The dancers comment is definitely accurate, and Eigen is correct in the assesment that the East coast cares more than the West coast on that front. I will have a video coming out soon on this topic as well so stay tuned for that. - I sure hope cons figure out a room lottery strategy. Smaller cons are the way forward for me personally, I just don't get much out of big cons anymore. They just seem to bring the worse sides of the fandom out. - Ha. As a musician who's trying to speak out about the ways we seem to be getting treated by cons when asking for the bare minimum to put on a show of some kind, it's generally a disheartening experience. But I too would love to see more shows at cons, and not just the one guy who got mainstage at all 3 years of MFF. Especially since they were exposed recently for literally paying a marketing agency to design their sona and name. The first "industry plant" in the fando is pushing out genuine talent at our biggest con, not good. - Yeah elevators are always difficult xD - I absolutely agree about the suites being condusive to parties, and that should be a requirement for getting one. It's what I've done every time I get one! - YESSSSSSSSSSS more volunteers! Better treatment of staff! Solid video, many good points and conversation starters. Onto 2024!
non furry here I have many furry friends that I play with frequently and get recommended furry content quite frequently decided to click on the video and shockingly discovered "fur-eh" was a two hour drive from my location
I wan to be a furry dancer I am ok at it I guess my sister says I look like I control the music and I also make fursuits so shoutout to the fellow Fursuit makers!
So I’ve never actually been to a con, but in theory for the dance contest things, could someone do like a pointe/ballet piece or is it only modern/contemporary?
Honestly for being a furry which I do like the costume if I have to dress up like a furry is it alright to have a furry tail ears and claws (gloves) I guess and I hope to god that they don’t banned furry costumes if so 😞😩😤
Oh my gosh lol I'm a furry dancer on tiktok kinda I dance but I also support my friend hoo's having ruf time as atherian so I do quads for her lol but idk how to dance really so I was scered to post vid of me dancing lol 😂 thank u u r the reason I'm a furry lol just realized that lol😂😂😂 thank u for being an amazing furry
i hope for n95 mask mandates in a disabling pandemic so more disabled furs can feel comfortable and welcome without having to risk their lives for their jobs and passions. i know too many disabled makers who have to bow out of conventions with unsafe infection prevention practices
something that i wish the furry fandom didn't have go on, is all the yiff in general. its one reason my dad doesnt like the community is because of that, why is everyone so focused on that aspect? you know i bet about 70% of the fandom has already committed adultery with another furry, i bet even you Spam have done it with someone your not even married to! sure this all goes on in private, but it still happens. this is the biggest reason i'm not really in the fandom anymore, the fandom has become not family friendly in what goes on, all it is at this point is a bunch of gay dopamine hungry in (that) kind of way, people in anthropomorphic animal costumes. DO BETTER.
Well ill say certain cons need to relax on the cv19 rules. Almost was going to be at AO but they wanted you to have all the shots and proof and were no if ands or buts. Kinda ruined my experience hopefuly all cons will relax on this.
@@mrllamaton1873 that’s a small part of the fandom. Most furries are completely sfw and chill. Also, by pornographic content i hope you mean any and ALL nsfw content because if not that would be insanely hypocritical.
@SpamBoar lol, thanks, and one last thing, I've never used Kickstarter before. Do you know if they send whatever pledge or reward now or after the starter ends.
The fact that this is the second time I’ve seen you -commenting- spamming hate on this person’s videos is genuinely sad. The real question is, do you have a life?
Ngl this has nothing to do with the fandom itself man youre just complaining about cons. This is the issue i have with the fandom now. Theres such a glorification of fursuits and suiters now to the point if you dont have one you are generally shunned and ignored by the community. This stems to conventions aswell, a large amount of furries who dont have suits do not feel welcome at cons. Hell dude last year there was an incident with a needle at a local con, and the blame was thrown on the "non suiters" as they called them. Its kind of disgusting how little the fandom cares about people for who they actually are. The fandom turned from a community where everyone was welcomed and cherished, to a community full of clout chasers who think that you need to drop thousands on a suit to be a part of said community. This video was pretty sad to me because its a clear example of what the fandom prioritizes now
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What Resolutions do you have for the furry fandom or yourself?
Interesting video! My resolutions for myself in the furry fandom is to make an attempt to socialize more on furry vr. I live in a remote area without conventions and vr has been the closest I could get to the community. I always chicken out of furry worlds though.
getting a dino mask and customizing it
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Getting better roommates. The one i had for mff were terrible. I had to go and find people last minute 2 times while the host had 5 months to do so, they were generally inconsiderate for room staff, rooms mates and just people in general. The first day i had 2 no shows, resulting me having to find one person to room with us to we could actually relax in the rooms
support more small artists (fandom and me myself and i
Honestly for local furry cons maybe if you are local, you don't need to register for the hotel
I think depends on how far you live from it? I worry about people drinking and driving etc.
Sadly the local convention i used to attend shut down and has never returned due to the pandemic the building they used has sat empty since 2021
theres a convention 50 min away from me in january
im pretty sure they mean specifically those within a fairly short walking distance or perhaps set aside money for the quick uber over the expensive hotel.
i also love the buddy system, try not to book a hotel room solo if you can help it, picka group of friends to go with so you can save a few rooms and dollars! @@SpamBoar
@SpamBoar if I went to the nearest furry con, I'd have to drive 2+ hours so I'd rather book a hotel 😅
I think the problem with talking to media is the people who do it never have all their thoughts organized and end up put on the spot in a way that can make the fandom look worse
When I watched that Fox interview, I wished so badly that he would just say in an organized and confident tone that furries don't condone inappropriate behavior in front of children, and that a lot of the inappropriate things people see or videos spreading online are happening either after hours or at hotel rooms. And then suggest the idea that one way to show that the furry community is serious about not being harmful to children is that at convention opening ceremonies, just remind everyone that we are sharing the hotel space with families and other guests who have children, so if there's going to be a party, they should party responsibly. That the con space and hotels for a family friendly con are not college dorm party spaces, so keep parties private and at a level that doesnt disturb guests in other rooms. And to report any suspicious behavior. And dont invite people you dont know to parties. Like, if he had just said that stuff and was better prepared, I think it would've been better.
I agree. Kinda of why I think there should be people maybe designated to speak with them? Not being prepared when the other person is usually doesn’t go well.
I think that’s the point. The media of today is obsessed with peddling controversy/drama or cherry-picking narratives that give them click bait headlines. They don’t care about actually telling the news, they care about what can get them the most views on an article. A positive outlook on the furry fandom doesn’t give them the headlines they want, they can’t make money off of a positive furry story, so they do everything in their power to push the most negative view of the fandom every time they cover it so they can make money off of the hyperbolic article names that come out of it.
it doesn't even matter, just don't talk to the media. at the end of the day they hold the ultimate power of editing what you say to fit their narrative.
I was listening to a local radio one day and an interview came on with a furry, the show hosts were asking him if he was a sexual predator and he just laughed it off and went “I personally am not haha” like he was accomplished for it or something.
@@SpamBoar over at Anthro con it was my understanding that if media wanted to interview furries they'd have to go directly to Uncle Kage, period. For years I would see people complaining about this at other cons or online saying that "oh uncle kage is just worried about making furry look squeaky clean or that he's "against" the adult side. But stuff like fox news and other disingenuous media reporters spin...is likely one of the biggest reasons why he held that policy. I've also seen FC in the past have designated media liasons. This needs to become a common practice imo, not to candy coat, but to prevent unwitting furs from getting taken advantage of with out of pocket questioning.
Edit: OH! Another way this can be helped, have a how to talk to media PANEL that can better prepare congoers to tactical reporter questioning.
My hotel had its own contest. In each room was a trashbag with the rules, extra bags available on request. At the end of each day the housekeepers would nominate the least messy room. The rooms that got nominated the most got put in to a raffle. The winner had their stay refunded as a prize.
That’s a really good idea!
Holy cow the prize was to get your hotel room refunded. I've heard of giving a free night. And on that note I don't really ever have to worry about making a mess. I'm very clean and organized. I think I almost won one of those contests. At least the one room cleaner that came in was like this is the cleanest room I've ever seen.
That is an EXCELLENT way to grease the wheel, lmao
@@pompadorbz9168 well imagine it taking 10min to pick up all the trash in one room (cause who needs trash cans when the floor is so handy; then an extra 15min added to the usual 25min to clean it. So losing a few hundred dollars to get a room back sooner you need for an incoming VIP isnt so bad.
I've been "in" the fandom for about 11-12 years now?? and hearing about the population of dancers going down hurts my soul so much. It was my favorite part of cons as someone who never got to go to one; spending each year looking forward to the new dance comp videos to see who my favorite was this time. But then again, late 2000s, early 2010s was a very dance focused time, at least more professional dance. Sure, people still dance a ton, but it's mostly half-assed trendy dances for likes and comments rather than to just have fun and experience the pure energy and bliss.
There's still that passion alive today, luckily. I went to ANW this year and probably like.. a third or more of the people in the dance battle were first-timers, myself included. There is a ton of talent and passion in the scene still.
Idk I saw floor wars and all the dance battles at MFF this year and I was super impressed, So much talent. Not to mention the fact that the stage seats were packed and alot of people had to sit on the floor
Great video. I'm very disconnected from the irl con scene so these are things I hadn't ever really considered. Also oh my God I NEVER see other boars. Swine gang rise up
Thank you! Go boars!
Ah your sona is so cool! Also I usually don’t do irl cons either cuz I’m in college in poor ;w; my skull mask is sitting around unpainted and unfurred
So I noticed that the west coast cons don't have as big of a dancerfur scene as the east coast cons.
But yeah it's gonna take a lot to grow the dance community. Workshops, exchanges, practice spaces, etc. I'm lucky that I'm programming staff for a couple cons focused on organizing dancer events, but not every con does that
You do an amazing job helping the dance community! Thank you 💜
@@SpamBoar myself, and a lot of my friends too!
Some good points, but there's a fair few issues that go a lot deeper and are a threat especially to vulnerable people inside the fandom, as well as the fandom itself whenever things go public and other people pick up the digital fallout from the aftermath.
While our community prides itself on inclusivity and giving people regardless of heritage, faith, sexual orientation, gender identity or other factors a spot to socialize in, it also fails to keep those spaces safe.
Problematic people are still given a platform, they and their following often times bully people out of the community altogether, and their views and ideals get a free pass, even if they harm the overll health of the fandom and the people within.
Most people will have heard of some of the stories that eventually blew up and reached furry fandom, or even wider internet infamy, but that's only the tip of the iceberg. I've been actively participating in the fandom for nearly 20 years now, and experienced no shortage of these things first hand.
There are many many good individuals out there who genuinely care for the wellbeing of others, but I cannot stand the fact its almost 2024 and yet just to name one of many, there's a furry that called a poc member of our local community a monkey on several occasions, was knowingly transphobic, worked with known alt-right supporters and yet they are still being celebrated simply because they own a fursuit and semi-frequently post adult imagery and videos.
Knowing that, how can you even begin to convince others that the fandom isnt inherently sexual, if people throw common sense and every ounce of respect out the window that easily?
We may have our own much, much smaller subgroups that are a bit more selective and careful about who's in them, but overall? Fandom's got severe issues... had them for a while and to me it feels they're getting worse.
About the size of cons and the accomodations availability, there is one thing that is out of anyone's control. It's that the fandom is growing massively, year after year. Small cons eventually gets larger too and are confronted to the choice of either evolving in a larger format, or stay small but thus face the issue of not being able to accomodate everyone.
I'm going to attend my very first con in April, after 12 years in the fandom. It is a small one in France (We only have small cons anyway, by the US standard xD) with around 500 expected attendees, but the registration for a room at the hotel were open for 32 seconds ! That's quite scary hahah
The largest con in France this year had 750 attendees but over 1 400 demands. That seems to be a rather big issue in Europe, apparently.
32 seconds…
32 seconds?? Small con?? 😭
@@carliu3573 Lots of furries who want to attend, not enough cons and the few that exists are not big, so hotel rooms gets booked in less than a minute
I just came here to compliment you on your rare choice for a boar furry ♥
Also that hammerhead shark scalie at like 1:10 - just wow!
Thanks! Pigs are fun!
I've seen that hammerhead in a "Guess who is the furry" video, I don't know their name since I only saw a glimpse of it, but yeah.
Cause of the news article thing my family became less agreeable to it
Not knowing the twists and lies they put on it
My intentions is to be a charity furry
I wanna make people smile
Not..ya know
But being good doesnt make HEADLINES
I refuse to go to a con that has an attendance equal to a decent size town because I know things like registration, even at higher levels, will he (Hades). I would prefer to go to a smaller con where I can get through reg in minutes (most of the time) and can traverse the entire width, height, and breadth of the con in about 5 minutes.
If you can do it, I highly recommend volunteering and registering at a higher level. You would be amazed how utterly useful having some people to help move things like charity auction items around is, and it only takes an hour or so. Higher levels give you more swag, but they also really help the con. Founders at MFM have bought the con sound systems, lights, etc., over the years. It has really enhanced the experience for all the con goers.
Also it's worth mentioning that BLFC takes place in Orlando. Anyone who's been to florida knows the humidity can get pretty brutal for much of the year, which I imagine would be very uncomfortable to fursuit in
Blfc is in Reno actually, Megaplex is Orlando 🙂
@@SpamBoar oh lol, I can't keep track. Still, I couldn't imagine fursuiting in the summer somewhere like florida, arizona, or texas
You’re a mook😒
Great video, I agree with most if not all of your points
also 3:18 at MFF this year they had a FULLY IMPROVISED musical and it was absolutely hilarious, cons should definitely do more stuff like that, as both a furry and a theater nerd it was great to see actors in the furry fandom
Sounds awesome!
Hotel bookings are something a Convention doesn't always have full control over. So often there isn't really any way for the convention to make it work. They have to talk to the hotel, and ask them to make it work. Individual hotels usually aren't working directly with reservations, they work through a central booking system. And that system receives reservations from more than just the convention.
That's why you get rooms released all at once, or in blocks, or in a lottery. Because it's the "fairest" way for attendees, and the least work for the hotel.
The best way to do it, using the tools available to most conventions, is either to issue booking codes to anyone who preregisters, or to create a reg level that includes a hotel room, or ideally both. And include in the hotel contract that rooms booked through the convention, can be exchanged with other congoers for no extra fee.
parking situations at furry cons, i believe if you have a room booked at at the main hotel you should have prioritized parking at the main hotel 😭 this year’s furpocalypse parking situation got overbooked n messy
Good point!
We can't wait for 2024 Fur-Eh in the new venue. 2023 Fur-Eh was a blast, and the only feedback I think any of us had was that we may have outgrown that hotel. But that might also just be the memories of the night that 2/3 elevators broke down...
Can’t wait for this year!
My con tip related to the last one is just call the hotel front desk and ask for big trash bags. Not the usual ones they give for the small cans in the room, but the big ones they use, because it's so much easier to load those up with junk during/after a party. Keep the room tidy throughout the weekend and then it's less of a hassle to clean up everything before check-out.
That's a great idea!
I went to Denfur and well I had a nice surprise of the medics having to come my first time at a con. Didn’t stop me from going again the next day
2:20 There should be a better way to assign rooms. I know two people who registered for both ScotiaCon and Confuzzled, the two big UK furcons, and missed out on both despite registering for residential tickets as soon as physically possible only to find out later that people from the US and mainland Europe got rooms. It's incredibly annoying as the UK only has two 'big' cons (1k people for ScotiaCon and 3k for Confuzzled) and they're always overbooked, residents of the country should be facilitated first IMO which is a hot take a lot of people wont like.
“Stop complaining about fursuit prices”
Me with my two dinomask partial suits: “Complain?”
If "you" want more daces at cons go to the con board and tell them you want to run it.
If "you" want a fursuit meet and greet over the fursuit parade go to the con board and tell them you want to run it.
If "you" want a talent show go to the con board and tell them you want to run it.
If "you" want more smaller fur cons create a con board and start them.
If you have not gotten the theme here it comes down to if you "Spam the Boar" want something you need to make it happen your self as if someone else wanted it all that badly they would have already have done it. The vast majority of people are followers and will only do things if others will make it happen.
I have not really gone to hotel cons for better than a decade now (three in better than a decade) as I just got tired of the entire hassle of it. I attend camping cons as people just can't go off and be in their little clicks as they do at hotel cons as people don't really want to be in tiny little tents for hours on end and actually want to socialize with the bigger group instead. Now I run the archery field as people actually want to participate in it. I had ran other events but people where just not interested in them so I stopped running them and ran what people actually wanted to participate in doing.
I was a board member at a furry con for 8 years and have volunteered at many.
This! Totally This! I've started and ran things all the time to make it happen. Unfortunately I get burnt out. lol. But others have picked up where I have left off and its cool to see it flourishing!
As someone who is a director of expo at a pop culture con I would add don't harass the hotel staff...don't make their job a pain. It makes it really hard to on the con staff to negotiate for the coming years if the attendees are running a muck. Like doing illegal things or things that are disgusting.
Agreed!
Great video! I am gonna have to get caught up on some of your stuff, but I am glad to hear that you had fun at Fur-Eh! including the musical. The whole crew worked their collective asses off to make that a reality.
It was amazing! Did you work on that crew? My video “The Minor Problem at Furry Cons” is filmed at Fur-Eh! Thanks!!!
I would love to get a partial suit of my Fursona but I’m so picky with artstyle. Like it had to be very close to the style I applied for my Fursona that it doesn’t feel right if it wasn’t 😭
It felt weird going to Fur Eh! I'm from the states and my two 'local' cons were FC and BLFC. And now that I'm up here in the Frozen North, everything is so far apart. Fur Eh is the closest to me. It is really well run though!
Very informative video, a lot of excellent points. Not sure about the furry dance scene as I'm personally not into it but that saddens me to hear the perception of less participation overall. Could it be not good enough marketing to garner interest? Maybe covid kept people isolated that it smudged out more potential talent... its hard to pin point. Times do change though.. hopefully it kicks off again in the future.
I did not expect the GSR to be in the video
Reno is my home town
IS THAT A HAMMER HEAD SHARK FURSUIT SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHO OWNS THAT SUIT
You did such a great job on this video. All of the things you mentioned are down-to-earth, realistic opportunities for the fandom to improve.
Thank you I appreciate that!
Here are some smaller cons I know of!
AqutiFur
FurTheMore
Howloween
Fur-eh
FurTheMore is in Crystal City Virginia!
AqutiFur is near Wisconsin, not sure exactly where, my friend knows
And Howloween and Fur-eh are the ones SpamBoar mentioned!
Also Kite Windswept Wanderings shows tons of cons, major ones (BLFC, MFF, AC, etc.) but also smaller ones! I would recommend checking them out!
OMG I saw my shirt on there ñ that's so sad!
I don't think we should give people who but things too much grief though. Afterall, how are people to know?
0:52 on the right side of the screen there’s a battle lock theater cosplay as hatty
i like going to furcons but i went to tff and tfs last year and the panels kinda sucked, i went to denfur and had an amazing time at one of the panels, it was homebrew for alcohol and they told us about it, at mcfc there was one about trains! it was so cool, but the panels at tff and tfs last year were mostly all fetish oriented and sexual in nature to some aspect. it really has gone down hill, even in the dealers den
Ok im going say you guys are adorable. I appreciate what you guys are doing. I ga e a friend who's a furry. But its sad that people dont recognize their just people having fun doing be what they love. My hats off to you guys. And kerp up the good work.
Oops missed some letters. 😅
Fursuit parade: Really depends on how it's run and what's the route. The footage in your video looks like the parade was basically in a parking lot. Yeah, that's not fun. At Nordicfuzzcon 2019 (Will be there this year again lol) the walk was through the huuuuuge lobby that even featured a koi pond. At Gdakon 2017 we just stuffed all the fursuiters (In suit) and spotters into buses and brought them to the historic old town of Sopot (Poland).
Theater stuff: There's a theatre group in germany called the Furry Tail Theatre. They've thrown two really good acts at the past two Eurofurences. Other than that....Yeah More events are awesome. And not all the times the same ones....Like Paws on fire. Sure, it's an awesome event. but it's almost everywhere. And it doesn't have to be something....exotic. NFC has Fursuit Charades, for example. Simple but genius.
Hotel room reg: There i LOVE what NFC did. Just spread the rooms through multiple hotels that are within walking distance to eachother. In Malmö you also have the option to just book another hotel that's within walking distance yourself. That's what we did. But that only works in walkable cities. *Evil stare on america*
A friend hugged you at FC btw and sent me a picture because i'm also a boar. He was a very pink fox :P There need to be more boars.
I love the clips you got from fur eh 2023 I was in that parade
There's no real solution to the reg line problem, bar mailing everyone their con badge, but that opens up a whole other can of worms (con badge can go missing in the post, international post sucks, etc).
furry dancers are so siccccc, i wish there were more dancers* 222🗣🗣🗣
Thanks for sharing Hyena Aganda been a while since I last heard the name. I forgot :(
You’re welcome 😊
Fursuit parades - so it seems BLFC did something similar to what I've proposed: a reverse Fursuit parade. That's where the furries stay in one place along a set path and the public walk the path to look at and interact with the furries.
Hotels - This is certainly a much lesser issue at small cons. But then again Anthrocon, a huge con, doesn't seem to have the same problems as Midwest Furfest, an equally huge con. Why? Is it all about the hotel booking processes?
Volunteering - I really want to but at the same time I don't want to divert my time away from meeting friends and doing activities at the con. The closest I've come is moving and setting up chairs in the main ballrooms at some of the smaller cons.
I think it would also help if there were bigger fur RUclips channels. It seems like it's really hard for anyone to break 1m subs even though I know the fandom is obviously massive 😅
It’s hard to crack even 100k subs ;)
@@SpamBoar maybe they just hate the content but idk why 😭
Also i am finally getting back into fursuit dancing
Mon rêve est littéralement d'aider des conventions furry que j'aime (safety = j'y serai! èué Et tout ce que je pourrai faire!)
Et d'en faire pleins!! En France et aux Etats-Unis! Peut-être ailleurs aussi! En France il y en a 2 qui sont très chill et bien gérée, je commencerai par l'une des deux pour ma première fois. ^.^
Heureusement, en France je n'ai jamais entendu parler des furries sur RUclips que je regarde qu'il y avait des allées de reventes de produits sous licences et se sont des conventions moins grosses aussi alors ils doivent peut-être pouvoir faire plus attention mais c'est une bonne chose car sa me dégoûterai de voir ça là-bas.
1:28 this headline alone ruins a lot of peoples veiws of us
Agreed
Really don’t care what they think 🙏
Very interesting video. I wanna talk about your points in order.
- Absolutely agree about the resellers. I don't know why cons are letting them in when they claim to care about that.
- Fursuit Parades are dying, sadly. They're much more common at Canadian cons (which is where the bulk of your cons are), and I've definitely noticed them being quietly retired at many US cons because there's just too many fursuiters nowadays.
- I disagree with this one. The "fandom representative" niche has been filled by Uncle Kage for like the last 20 years, and I got skewered by folks when I did a short radio interview after a con I attended received a bomb threat. But I actually work in politics and in speech writing so I am totally comfortable talking to the media. I think the advice should be more "if you see a camera at a con, don't engage unless you're prepared to be on video". And a lot of furries just don't want that kind of attention which is perfectly fine. There's a reason I was also the first furry to ever make it to air on a Got Talent franchise!
- The dancers comment is definitely accurate, and Eigen is correct in the assesment that the East coast cares more than the West coast on that front. I will have a video coming out soon on this topic as well so stay tuned for that.
- I sure hope cons figure out a room lottery strategy. Smaller cons are the way forward for me personally, I just don't get much out of big cons anymore. They just seem to bring the worse sides of the fandom out.
- Ha. As a musician who's trying to speak out about the ways we seem to be getting treated by cons when asking for the bare minimum to put on a show of some kind, it's generally a disheartening experience. But I too would love to see more shows at cons, and not just the one guy who got mainstage at all 3 years of MFF. Especially since they were exposed recently for literally paying a marketing agency to design their sona and name. The first "industry plant" in the fando is pushing out genuine talent at our biggest con, not good.
- Yeah elevators are always difficult xD
- I absolutely agree about the suites being condusive to parties, and that should be a requirement for getting one. It's what I've done every time I get one!
- YESSSSSSSSSSS more volunteers! Better treatment of staff!
Solid video, many good points and conversation starters. Onto 2024!
Thanks for the feedback!
Amazing Video!! I just found your channel, and I am about to binge watch all of it
Awesome thank you!
Good fortune, luck ,prosperity for you in this new year i wish you 🙂😉✌👍
As a furry who tried getting into dance events I’m afraid there is a good bit of favoritism in the community
Wish I could be a Furry dancer...but I can't dance 🤷♀️
Me neither 😃
@@SpamBoar I think it would be fun to be a Con volunteer though! I'll have to see if GFM needs any next year.
That would be very nice if you!
non furry here
I have many furry friends that I play with frequently
and get recommended furry content quite frequently
decided to click on the video
and shockingly discovered
"fur-eh"
was a two hour drive from my location
0:52 IS THAT HATTY HATTINGTON???
Uncle Kage is a great representative lol I love seeing him talk on the news
For anyone who doesn’t want to say anything that might not be good for younger audiences then say “murrsuiting” it’s called that
I wan to be a furry dancer I am ok at it I guess my sister says I look like I control the music and I also make fursuits so shoutout to the fellow Fursuit makers!
Give it a try!
i love your fursuit btw this is the first time im seeing your channel and also i love that you look like pumba i think its awsome
Awesome I appreciate that!
So I’ve never actually been to a con, but in theory for the dance contest things, could someone do like a pointe/ballet piece or is it only modern/contemporary?
quality content
In lieu of my volunteership, I opt for sponsorship.
I want to go to FurEh, but I can’t afford the hotel…
Spam, love your videos. Keep up the good work! ❤
Appreciate the kind words!
When will people think us as furrys are neurodivergent?
I can't believe I didn't see you there at fur eh
I should be there this year!
Furries are cool and cute I love the furry Fandom ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ :3
U were at blfc? Darn I missed ya
if we talking about small cons lets talk about how good memphis is.
Even tho I’m not a furry I do like watching your videos so yeah
Wow, not a furry? Thats really awesome and appreciated!
"Please tip the hotel staff for what they have to go through"
LMAO XD
2:45 I went there last summer
Honestly for being a furry which I do like the costume if I have to dress up like a furry is it alright to have a furry tail ears and claws (gloves) I guess and I hope to god that they don’t banned furry costumes if so 😞😩😤
That’s like saying everyone that cosplays is sexual. Adults get dumber by the day.
Your fursuit is very unique and cute
Thank you!
Oh hey i see myself in the fur eh parade at 0:44
And what if you buy a camper for yourself and only ticket to walk convention space? its should work for not enought hotel room xD
If you have an iPad, why didn’t you get a MacBook like me, it makes things so much easier, also love your Chanel and wish you good luck
I have a PC and laptop, the iPad looked better for the pic. Looked weird holding a laptop 😀
Ah well it's all fine, I'm a furry in 2024!
(New Zealand bloke uwu)
Oh my gosh lol I'm a furry dancer on tiktok kinda I dance but I also support my friend hoo's having ruf time as atherian so I do quads for her lol but idk how to dance really so I was scered to post vid of me dancing lol 😂 thank u u r the reason I'm a furry lol just realized that lol😂😂😂 thank u for being an amazing furry
THANK you
You're welcome!
@@SpamBoar best explanation ever
OMG!! i might be able to go to fur eh too!!!
Ay bore really ok so you from Australian
i hope for n95 mask mandates in a disabling pandemic so more disabled furs can feel comfortable and welcome without having to risk their lives for their jobs and passions. i know too many disabled makers who have to bow out of conventions with unsafe infection prevention practices
something that i wish the furry fandom didn't have go on, is all the yiff in general. its one reason my dad doesnt like the community is because of that, why is everyone so focused on that aspect? you know i bet about 70% of the fandom has already committed adultery with another furry, i bet even you Spam have done it with someone your not even married to! sure this all goes on in private, but it still happens. this is the biggest reason i'm not really in the fandom anymore, the fandom has become not family friendly in what goes on, all it is at this point is a bunch of gay dopamine hungry in (that) kind of way, people in anthropomorphic animal costumes. DO BETTER.
Dont pin him!
Who wants to get up at 10 am for a parade the day after partying???
Exactly!
just use motel 6 for conventions
period
FIRST! PIN?
Well ill say certain cons need to relax on the cv19 rules.
Almost was going to be at AO but they wanted you to have all the shots and proof and were no if ands or buts.
Kinda ruined my experience hopefuly all cons will relax on this.
God everytime I see desantis in a video it just gets more and more ludicrous, I feel so sorry for florida
Reject Furry Embrace Hunting in the Midwest
another 5 year old, wow :D put down your ipad and do your homework, kiddo
@@Ryliarc Wow, Way off from my actual age, I don't own any apple devices, and I ain't in school right now.
@@mrllamaton1873being above the age of 5 and acting like this bc someone likes dressing up is absurd and immature
@@pastalord69 No, I hate pornograpic activities, which, the furry fandom is known fore.
@@mrllamaton1873 that’s a small part of the fandom. Most furries are completely sfw and chill. Also, by pornographic content i hope you mean any and ALL nsfw content because if not that would be insanely hypocritical.
Sorry, furry is bad..
five year old detected lmfao
Too stupid to do actual research, huh?
Fatherless
erm.. lame normie!
:D🦾💣🕳💥💀💀🥶😶🌫🧿👄🧿
ruclips.net/video/L85AXNEDV2E/видео.htmlsi=ox-ANFCS9ge2SStP
lol Hate to be the first one to tell you this but many furries have dads - and some have furry dads🤣
Hobbyless 💀
Damn at 1:41 I seen a furry that inspired me (plus others) that inspired me to come back to the fandom! The blue fox @Jessebluefox
where did you get the long sleeve? looks cool as hell
Nomad Complex, check out their Kickstarter!
@SpamBoar checked it out. They have awesome merchandise, idk if it's better to wait until they fully get back up and running or go for it now.
@nvrrspnd Up to you, the prices and shipping is cheaper now. Plus you get a free enamel pin. I feel like a salesman lol. Do what’s best for you 😀
@SpamBoar lol, thanks, and one last thing, I've never used Kickstarter before. Do you know if they send whatever pledge or reward now or after the starter ends.
After it ends.
Do you have a dad
Imagine being too braindead to come up with anything original
The fact that this is the second time I’ve seen you -commenting- spamming hate on this person’s videos is genuinely sad. The real question is, do you have a life?
Haha cry about it
Ngl this has nothing to do with the fandom itself man youre just complaining about cons. This is the issue i have with the fandom now. Theres such a glorification of fursuits and suiters now to the point if you dont have one you are generally shunned and ignored by the community. This stems to conventions aswell, a large amount of furries who dont have suits do not feel welcome at cons. Hell dude last year there was an incident with a needle at a local con, and the blame was thrown on the "non suiters" as they called them. Its kind of disgusting how little the fandom cares about people for who they actually are. The fandom turned from a community where everyone was welcomed and cherished, to a community full of clout chasers who think that you need to drop thousands on a suit to be a part of said community. This video was pretty sad to me because its a clear example of what the fandom prioritizes now