Really comes down to ownership in fielding a competitive team. I suffered watching the Ws through the Cohan era. Ironically, we were disappointed when Larry Ellison didn’t buy the Ws. We thought Lacob and Gruber were light in the pocket and weren’t going to pay the luxury tax. Ellison probably would have been a disaster.
The thing about the CAP for the Warriors is the team makes about $750 mill a year in revenues. Like twice or three times the NBA average. So they can fund the lux tax easily every year.
@@Andrew-dj1wd yeah thats because Covid strike when Chase Center just newly build?? lol and may I remind you Chase is privately funded so all of the income are theres alone...
How about watching the Dubs play at HP Pavilion (home of the San Jose Sharks) when the Arena was closed for renovation before it even became Oracle? 14-year-old me was there 😁
@@Vic-Vega dude showed moments of freak athleticism and talent. And the Warriors are obviously the best at developing talent. All I can say is watch out
Top 5 All time Champions MJ, Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, Magic Johnson and Steph Curry. They did it with one team and the supporting cast were there from the start.
Yeah, I feel like even though Andre didn't get much playing time, he still great forming the death lineup. Not sure if he will retire or not, the Warriors can still use him for vet minimum.
@@tzy1547 "Defensive??" I just don't think he's a relevant basketball name. I don't see it with him. You're the one taking that opinion so weirdly personal.
The warriors next season is much deadly death line up and much prepared this time, with the return of James wiseman with looney as there big man Jonathan kuminga and moody potential, Jordan poole there six man, Otto namanja lee, rule player gp2 one of the best defender, and starting five curry klay green wiggins Wiseman
I just thought of something. Isn't Tim Duncan and the spurs Already the patriots of the NBA? 5 NBA championships and the Spurs making the most playoffs from 1997-2019. The Spurs are the Patriots before the patriots.
Doesn't matter just the core of Steph Klay wiggs dray and Poole. Coaches can come and go. Except Kerr. It's the players and their chemistry. Ur not gonna go coach anywhere else and get this type of success without curry.
Warren Beatty played Jon Peters in "Shampoo". Jon Peters was Peter Guber's film producing partner who was a former Beverly Hills hairdresser who dated Barbara Streisand and became a movie producer through her. Guber/Peters productions were eventually put in charge of running Sony Studio for the Japanese owners in the late 80's and racked up 3.2 billion in debt! Peter Guber is one of the Warrior's owners.
Lacob & Gruber bought GSW for $450M & GSW is now worth $5B ...they've managed to make a profit regardless of the hardships so they really individually & as an organization deserve do much admiration & praise...
He was never crazy athletic. He's 7 ft tall and can shoot. His game will age well. My guess is he has a career like Dirk. He'll play 20 years with a gradual decline over the last 5.
Warriors 1975 championship was a NBA championship. The way I look at it , if the Lakers can count 5 championships they won between 1949-1954 , I'm sure its okay for Warriors to count their 2 they won in 1947 & 1956
GSW role players should stay and have some more rings to increase their rate rather than accepting huge offers and end up as bench warmers in other teams. Every NBA teams are out there to destroy GSW organization in 2023..
Im not sure how much more a team can make with extra games while going to the finals. I bet the courtsides are crazy. Golden state probably makes enough during a playoff run to pay for their roster. 50 mil is nothing. 30 thousand times 100 bucks a ticket is 3 mil and thats the cheap stuff. Each series they probably make at least 30 mil. They probably make 200 mil everytime they go to the finals.
Warriors ownership is the type of ownership you wanna have. They want to win championships and see the city prosper, rings have monetary value. They know what they have and they're ot gonna be cheap about it. Now we know another thing: Curry is greater than LeBron. Case closed.
I'm telling you the owners of the Warriors they just like George Steinbrenner used to be with the Yankees he made money off of them and he put the money right back into them
Since there is no real objective way to judge, this is at least a useful and fun way to try to rank the top 11 players of all time. Useful because it is simple and gives a baseline for comparison and something to discuss. Other formulas are equally welcome as none are truly objectively correct. They're all just different ways of looking at something we cannot describe perfectly. Think of it like this: imagine five different blind people touching an elephant in different places and then describing it. One might say the object is a spear because he is touching the tip of a tusk, another might say the object is a tree because he is touching a leg, another might say it is a wall because she is pushing against the side, another says it's a thick rope because she's got hold of the trunk, and another says it's a large fan leaf because he's touching an ear. Each of them is technically incorrect about what the object really is (an elephant), but all of their observations and descriptions together could help them imagine a more complete and correct picture of the object if they cooperate. Or they could all just argue that the others are wrong and get nowhere, as some of the other commenters have done.
@@brushstroke3733 I could give you a list of different accolades that I feel needs to be considered in a formula, but I’ll start with this. I don’t believe I would be satisfied with any formula where there are only three inputs. Not to mention other weird things in that post, like how a N/A is essentially equal to 1 due to the structure of the formula. That means every player who ever played before the finals MVP existed would earn points essentially equal to players who earned 1 finals MVP. Some things that need to be considered… *Single Game, Single Game PO, and Seasonal Records (in per Game categories) *Finals Appearences *All Pro/All Star *Playoff W-L/Series W-L *Career Statistics/Rate Statistics (If a leader) I think a weighted average of those is a good place to start. That also would allow for players who played in an era without those categories to not gain an advantage or disadvantage from being in that era.
And they are cloning themselves, Curry Poole, Klay/ Moody , Draymon / GP2 or , Kuminga, KD Wiggins, Looney Wiseman, they can mix and match and play lockdown D and Score, they still have Iggy Bjeliza Porter, Who all shoot 3s
Warriors aren’t a dynasty won 1 chip without k. Got shut down in 2016 and 2019. Curry lost a game 7 in finals and isnt the best. Lebron and mj, hell kd is prob t3 over curr whos t15. No one cares about warriors cuz they beat easy opponents never won 1 legit finals against opponent. 2015 injured kyrie. 2022 beat celtics (not the best). Every other year lost. No kd no dynasty.
2016 the Warriors lost because they didn't have Draymond, Bogut and an injured Igoudala. 2019 lost because Klay and Kd were injured. 2022 they beat arguably the best team since the all-star break, the best defensive team. Wtf are you talking about again??!
The warriors have not lost against ANYONE in any series when Steph, klay, and Draymond have started every game. You can’t say that about anyone else. DYNASTY. The end.
@@lovehate8286 currtrash barely beat a celtics team without facing kawhi lebron or kd giannis in the playoff lucky year lucky break that warrio always get. Wont ever win agai
Steve Kerr played for both Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich, and now he's won 4 championships as a head coach. Remarkable life.
Pretty crazy, just a nice white dude that got good at shooting 3's. Balln.
He might even catch up to them 😆😆
The most accurate 3 point shooter in NBA history, so dead eyed Black Jesus passed him a game winner
@@Careless_101 Lmao, with what team? 😅😂🤣
@@Vic-Vega bulls
God I love ball movement teams over isolation teams. So much fun to watch
Damn straight! I couldn’t stand the iso game. I loved when the NBA ISO crap got exposed during international play in the Olympics and World Cup.
Real talk. Beautiful Basketball beats the selfish one.
You watch a lot a high school basketball….
When KD was playing, the warriors played more iso ball than they should have. Since, KD we are back to the original warriors ball movement.
@@sp_liberated you see it .. back to basketball.. not Michael Jordan Basketball.
Really comes down to ownership in fielding a competitive team. I suffered watching the Ws through the Cohan era.
Ironically, we were disappointed when Larry Ellison didn’t buy the Ws. We thought Lacob and Gruber were light in the pocket and weren’t going to pay the luxury tax.
Ellison probably would have been a disaster.
Now Ws are being punished for paying their drafted guys through the luxury tax
Joey "Pockets" Lacob is that owner every sports fan wants.
The thing about the CAP for the Warriors is the team makes about $750 mill a year in revenues. Like twice or three times the NBA average. So they can fund the lux tax easily every year.
Warriors had to sell part of the team and part of the new Chase Arena to pay salaries of $176 and tax of $170.
@@Andrew-dj1wd are you talking about when they had to cover the Covid19 seasons out of pocket?? Fans are now in arenas
@@Andrew-dj1wd yeah thats because Covid strike when Chase Center just newly build?? lol and may I remind you Chase is privately funded so all of the income are theres alone...
@@Andrew-dj1wd They're doing just fine dude.... I don't think that franchise is hurting for cash lol
As a long time NBA fan and Bulls fan, I love watching the Warriors in this era. Love Steph and Klay and they are so well coached.
moody and kuminga at age 19... imagine at age 22-24...
Andrew wiggins got a ring before westbrook and harden lol he is a definitely top 5 defender
westbrick, hardon and chrissy paul will have a combined ZERO ring when they are done!!!
@@mikehoward9211 hahahahaha
ISO ball will can never beat ball movements.
Rich, gotta love “My Warriors “. I am East Bay. Honored to have you join Dub Nation. I was at Oracle and watched Run TMC. So, yeah….
How about watching the Dubs play at HP Pavilion (home of the San Jose Sharks) when the Arena was closed for renovation before it even became Oracle? 14-year-old me was there 😁
Oakland- Alameda County Coliseum Arena, so many great times there. I was bummed when they renovated it.
@@mjwbulich yes, I was being brief. That’s is it’s official traditional full name. And yes I still think the East Bay crowds are more fanatic.
🏆🏆🏆🏆
Kerr has been coach by 2 hall of fame coaches... the student has become the teacher.
Exactly
Jason Kuminga 😂 Nah, he’s right about the Warriors core though. They’re ridiculous deep now, and they’re only going to get better.
Jonathan Kuminga.
@@percivalreynaldo9899 19 years old and lots of room to grow
Equal amounts of room to fail and disappoint.
@@Vic-Vega dude showed moments of freak athleticism and talent. And the Warriors are obviously the best at developing talent. All I can say is watch out
@@vincentjames7210 yessir
He said curry like the Brady of this era ‼️ greatness at its best
4/6 to 7/10
That's 67% Vs 70% if they keep winning that's what warriors will become indeed
Top 5 All time Champions MJ, Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, Magic Johnson and Steph Curry. They did it with one team and the supporting cast were there from the start.
Larry Bird?
He has 3
@@SP-pp4rh Kareem then…won in high school, college and the pro’s his entire career!
@@GIBBO4182 Different era not as many teams the competition wasn't as fierce.
@@SP-pp4rh ok…
Rich, it's Jonathan Kuminga. Quite a few times you've said Jason in the past. Love the show though!
Just make it easy; call him by what everyone at Thrive City calls him: “Kum-Bucket”!!
@@pushslice bro 😂
When Andre returned to the Warriors 9 months ago…we all knew the core was back and that they’ll be back in the finals!
Yeah, I feel like even though Andre didn't get much playing time, he still great forming the death lineup. Not sure if he will retire or not, the Warriors can still use him for vet minimum.
For as much as Rich loves the Warriors you would think he would know Kuminga's first name is Jonathan not Jason lol
Lol I've heard him say it a few times now. I'm surprised the other guys don't correct him
Only family and close friends call him Jason
@@raymondvaldez4101 Nobody knew any better. They're casuals. Also: Kuminga is not a name that matters in the NBA (and likely never will be).
@@Vic-Vega lol his still a rookie. You sound defensive
@@tzy1547 "Defensive??" I just don't think he's a relevant basketball name. I don't see it with him. You're the one taking that opinion so weirdly personal.
The warriors next season is much deadly death line up and much prepared this time, with the return of James wiseman with looney as there big man Jonathan kuminga and moody potential, Jordan poole there six man, Otto namanja lee, rule player gp2 one of the best defender, and starting five curry klay green wiggins Wiseman
Insane, every time I think about it, it's insane
looney and gp2, otto, all walking...
The LIV shot was Priceless lmfao!!!
Beautifully stated 💯💯💯💯Facts no lies here.✌️❤️
Pats/Brady Steph thing - I KNEW this was coming. I thought you'd say it after game 5. I was thinking it after those crazy 3pt run over stats.
I just thought of something. Isn't Tim Duncan and the spurs Already the patriots of the NBA? 5 NBA championships and the Spurs making the most playoffs from 1997-2019. The Spurs are the Patriots before the patriots.
Biggest issue for the Warriors next year is replacing coaches Mike Brown and Kenny Atkinson
Looked like they were already grooming Iguodala to take one of those spots
They will be fine
Doesn't matter just the core of Steph Klay wiggs dray and Poole. Coaches can come and go. Except Kerr. It's the players and their chemistry. Ur not gonna go coach anywhere else and get this type of success without curry.
Iggy will be busy doing venture capital business, don't think he will be involved in NBA
@Laza Brkonja Kenny is staying with the warriors he turn down the hornets job
5 years ago I said the warriors are sort of the patriots of the nba and curry is the brady....rich eisen has confirmed it
@Richard Aguilar you want a medal?
Rich always keeps it real!! Knows his teams fasho
Warren Beatty played Jon Peters in "Shampoo". Jon Peters was Peter Guber's film producing partner who was a former Beverly Hills hairdresser who dated Barbara Streisand and became a movie producer through her. Guber/Peters productions were eventually put in charge of running Sony Studio for the Japanese owners in the late 80's and racked up 3.2 billion in debt! Peter Guber is one of the Warrior's owners.
I shampooed my hair yesterday.
Today, the warriors are world champions.
You are a Goober.
Peter Guber is one of the Warrior's owners.
I REST MY CASE.
I am so happy for Wiggs...that smile
He said "Jason Kuminga" 😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Rodman is in that Mt Rushmore with Draymond. GP1 as well.
He’s actually first!! Then Bill Laimbeer and Oak
"Jason" Kuminga my favorite player.
Cowabonga
for the second time-it's JONATHAN KUMINGA
Lacob & Gruber bought GSW for $450M & GSW is now worth $5B ...they've managed to make a profit regardless of the hardships so they really individually & as an organization deserve do much admiration & praise...
Talk to em rich 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿!
Good reporting 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A big thing that Wiggins learned this year was how to rebound. And even little Steph has impressive rebounding numbers
Thank you Rich for being the VOICE OF REASON amongst all the haters!
Durant will also be older (34) in the fall; that's ole geezer territory.
durant is done
He was never crazy athletic. He's 7 ft tall and can shoot. His game will age well. My guess is he has a career like Dirk. He'll play 20 years with a gradual decline over the last 5.
Look how athletic kuminga is as well. Him, Wiseman, and GP2 are great for the warriors!
And they have three draft pick this year.
As good as they draft and develop?
Crazy..
Dennis Rodman, draymon Green, Steve Smith Sr, vontez Burdick, Bill lambeer,
Warriors 1975 championship was a NBA championship. The way I look at it , if the Lakers can count 5 championships they won between 1949-1954 , I'm sure its okay for Warriors to count their 2 they won in 1947 & 1956
Count them
@DubsNation Hate to break it to ya, but 2022 was a pandemic title, buddy.
Big asterisk.
"I looked it up because I'm a lead pipe wielding professional."
yes, warriors now nba gold standard 👌
Just chilling I love rich
Who is Jason Kuminga?
"This is Moses Moody, and I'm in a very bad moody!"
Bob Myers will be in the Hall of Fame
GSW role players should stay and have some more rings to increase their rate rather than accepting huge offers and end up as bench warmers in other teams. Every NBA teams are out there to destroy GSW organization in 2023..
Steve Kerr for President.
Don’t apologize, Rich. That Saudis joke/comparison was as gold as the dynasty you’re discussing.
Lebron,russell,kareem,jordan.who do you take off for curry?
The Warriors are the gold standard in the nba
The Warriors come into your house, beat you, break your heart, and steal the hearts of your fans.
Draymond Green, Brad Marchand, Ndamukong Suh, and I can't think of one for baseball lol
Manny Machado? Ty Cobb?
Rich Eisen it’s Jonathan Kuminga but we gotcha..
Im not sure how much more a team can make with extra games while going to the finals. I bet the courtsides are crazy. Golden state probably makes enough during a playoff run to pay for their roster. 50 mil is nothing. 30 thousand times 100 bucks a ticket is 3 mil and thats the cheap stuff. Each series they probably make at least 30 mil. They probably make 200 mil everytime they go to the finals.
the warriors make 750mil a year which is twice the average nba team. Their coffers are always open.
8 of the Warriors players were drafted period.
It feels like the begining of a threepeat
Said no one but you.
It’s Jonathan Kuminga lol
he actually changed his named after watching this. ha
This is refreshing - few of these talking heads offer nothing but slander.
Please! Jonathan Kuminga!
James Wiseman standing like🧍🏾♂️
Iggy might need to get in, too.
Iggy will be assistant coach with Kerr
It's Jonathan Kuminga !
James Nguyen
he actually changed his named after watching this. ha
Golden is Back LOOK OUT NBA ITS SCARY
Johnathan kumiga not Jason
James Nguyen
he actually changed his named after watching this. ha! its jason now!
Jason?
he actually changed his named after watching this. ha! its jason now!
“The colossal prick even managed to sound magnanimous!” Go blue
It’s hilarious how people want to switch up and give MY TEAM this credit now I’ve been saying all of this for years welcome to the party I guess
bill Labier, denes rodman,
Jason Kuminga lol
James Nguyen
he actually changed his named after watching this. ha
Warriors ownership is the type of ownership you wanna have. They want to win championships and see the city prosper, rings have monetary value. They know what they have and they're ot gonna be cheap about it.
Now we know another thing: Curry is greater than LeBron. Case closed.
dibz!!!!!!
I'm telling you the owners of the Warriors they just like George Steinbrenner used to be with the Yankees he made money off of them and he put the money right back into them
dubz!!!!!!!!
And he going to pay all those dudes
Jon-athan. Kuminga. Say it with me.
Incredible team. And just imagine if they had drafted Ball.
poole would never have developed. wiseman is the better piece for the team.
No. Dont need that baggage.
@DubsNation wiseman looked like a bust even before surgery
@@Deez_Nutz510 an all star player is better than nothing
F bally boi
Rich, stop calling Kuminga 'JASON". Second time you got his name wrong!!!
They didnt steal the raptors money did they?
NBA Top 10 of All Time
Score = Rings x MVP x FMVP
Sample: Horry = 7 x 0 x 0 = 0
Top Player Rings MVP FMVP Score
1 MJ 6 5 6 180
2 Jabbar 6 6 2 72
3 LeBron 4 4 4 64
4 Bill 11 5 n/a 55
5 Magic 5 3 3 45
6 Duncan 5 2 3 30
7 Bird 3 3 2 18
8 Shaq 4 1 3 12
9 Curry 4 2 1 8
10 Wilt 2 4 1 8
11 Kobe 5 1 1 5
I’m all for trying to objectively rank players, but this is a horrible formula
@@rickhaavisto9023 thank you.
Dear God...
Doesn’t Kobe have 2 fmvp
Since there is no real objective way to judge, this is at least a useful and fun way to try to rank the top 11 players of all time. Useful because it is simple and gives a baseline for comparison and something to discuss.
Other formulas are equally welcome as none are truly objectively correct. They're all just different ways of looking at something we cannot describe perfectly.
Think of it like this: imagine five different blind people touching an elephant in different places and then describing it. One might say the object is a spear because he is touching the tip of a tusk, another might say the object is a tree because he is touching a leg, another might say it is a wall because she is pushing against the side, another says it's a thick rope because she's got hold of the trunk, and another says it's a large fan leaf because he's touching an ear. Each of them is technically incorrect about what the object really is (an elephant), but all of their observations and descriptions together could help them imagine a more complete and correct picture of the object if they cooperate. Or they could all just argue that the others are wrong and get nowhere, as some of the other commenters have done.
@@brushstroke3733 I could give you a list of different accolades that I feel needs to be considered in a formula, but I’ll start with this. I don’t believe I would be satisfied with any formula where there are only three inputs.
Not to mention other weird things in that post, like how a N/A is essentially equal to 1 due to the structure of the formula. That means every player who ever played before the finals MVP existed would earn points essentially equal to players who earned 1 finals MVP.
Some things that need to be considered…
*Single Game, Single Game PO, and Seasonal Records (in per Game categories)
*Finals Appearences
*All Pro/All Star
*Playoff W-L/Series W-L
*Career Statistics/Rate Statistics (If a leader)
I think a weighted average of those is a good place to start. That also would allow for players who played in an era without those categories to not gain an advantage or disadvantage from being in that era.
Carl Anthony Towns rolling in grave rite now
they are not a dynasty, without kd this a new team. more like the 80s pistons
U slow .
Jason Kuminga smh 🤦
They go into your building and win championships lol.
1/2
Nemanja his a piece too
I'll remove him. He doesn't play D and inconsistent shooting at best.
And they are cloning themselves, Curry Poole, Klay/ Moody , Draymon / GP2 or , Kuminga, KD Wiggins, Looney Wiseman, they can mix and match and play lockdown D and Score, they still have Iggy Bjeliza Porter, Who all shoot 3s
😏
If steph curry wins another Lebron will be never be the so called GOAT.
First
The only reason the warriors won is because the rest
suck.
I thought a dynasty was a two 3peat…
No
At least 4 championships in a 10 year span with same core of players. Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, Warriors.
@@jsutigers8954 why not
@@johndirtylue5034 Because that's never been the standards for a dynasty.
@@Dee0336 Sez who.
Warriors aren’t a dynasty won 1 chip without k. Got shut down in 2016 and 2019. Curry lost a game 7 in finals and isnt the best. Lebron and mj, hell kd is prob t3 over curr whos t15. No one cares about warriors cuz they beat easy opponents never won 1 legit finals against opponent. 2015 injured kyrie. 2022 beat celtics (not the best). Every other year lost. No kd no dynasty.
Sitting in the corner by yourself crying
2016 the Warriors lost because they didn't have Draymond, Bogut and an injured Igoudala. 2019 lost because Klay and Kd were injured. 2022 they beat arguably the best team since the all-star break, the best defensive team. Wtf are you talking about again??!
The warriors have not lost against ANYONE in any series when Steph, klay, and Draymond have started every game.
You can’t say that about anyone else.
DYNASTY.
The end.
@@lovehate8286 currtrash barely beat a celtics team without facing kawhi lebron or kd giannis in the playoff lucky year lucky break that warrio always get. Wont ever win agai
@@lovehate8286 LMFAO, what?? Bulls have never even lost a Finals, let alone with that ridiculously lame qualifier.