People will never know how abuse affects someone's state of mind unless they experience it themselves. 💔 I wasn't SA'd, but I faced emotional abuse from my mom throughout my childhood up until college. It impacted me mentally, leading to moments when I couldn't escape having bad thoughts. I can’t imagine how much menendez brothers have suffered from their parents, especially from their dad. I endured abuse as well, but their situation was far worse. I hope they will get the freedom they deserve.
Yes I was emotional abused by my alcoholic parents, my father a bit more as my mother died when I was 17 yrs. old. It really caused a lot of emotional/Psychiatric problems. I've been therapy for45 yrs. off and on,medication,,outpatient programs, support groups, and hospitalizations. Yes, they helped, even having some forgiveness helped the damage was done, and there scars, which is there is no cure.. I feel that this negatively affected the 3 past relationships I had, and it their issues too. I feel better and safer living alone and of course more peaceful. I have friends and church, and my laptop. The thing is I'm doing the best I can."you can't change the past, so why let haunt to. You can't face the future, but you have to want to "Pat Benatar. Sexual abuse, I didn't have, and my goes out to Lyle and Eric. I hope they free of prison soon.
@@alexwallace6120 I was abused to for years I went through it all and I’m in a peaceful place now and living at peace with my daughter sky and I’m so sorry 😞 you went through all that and what help me is talking to someone about it and church ⛪️ and the support god bless you and May god continue blessing your life amen amen 🙏
People do know, ask any survivor and they can tell you. People just don’t want to see it, their minds are closed. All the closed minds protect the abusers and blame the victims. It isn’t justice- it is ignorance.
Everyone saying abuse does not excuse murder should shut up. Do you have any idea what abuse does to a child? It kills you inside, and it takes away your dignity. Dignity should be free for everyone.
Apparently, they never suffered from being around someone who was abused, the way it destroys u psychologically and even more, your own parents, nothing is the same.
yes, that's so disgusting to hear. people who have the slightest idea of what actual abuse is more so being abused and betrayed by your own family none other than your own father and mother and this went on for years and years... should by all means shut the hell up because they are more than ignorant
I was abused as a child and it does mess you up mentally and physically and emotionally and what they went through was horrible experience for the menenadez brothers
They are not violent criminals. They were two completely brainwashed and traumatized kids. Anyone under 25 is still a kid. They should be released. There's no question.
@@thedarthflagger They had already been in prison, in solitary confinement with very little access to daylight, for several years at that point. I'd love to see how you would look.
7:00 he says "that's because we have laws" well you know what? So many times Justice makes mistakes and fails, they didn't have a fair trial, they had so many evidence of abuses, and the judge sucked. Even the jury said after trial: "if we knew everything that they told in first trial everything would be different" is not the same 15 or 20 years, at least they being together in same prison, that 30+ years without parole. The prosecutor Pamela literally said on trial: "Men can't be raped" what kind of Justice is that?
What he said is true there are laws and what u said is true so many ppl wrongfully imprisoned.They were definitely denied of a fair 2nd trial and victims of the culture or perception at that time,gender bias ..that men can't be raped and they were legally adult young privileged men who could have run away.They should go to jail but not for first degree but for manslaughter which they could be released 10/15;years ago.I was one of those who thought they were cold blooded murderers but when I watched Law and Order episodes,watching Court tv,Gen Z tik tok videos ( God bless them,)my views changed..and with the age of me too ,me too.They should be released.And the DA was eager for a guilty verdict after OJ.#freethemenendezbrothers
The term “abuse excuse” boils my blood like no other. They were afraid every moment of their lives because they were in danger EVERY moment of their lives. 😔
@@lauren1779 I agree I mean poor Erik couldn’t even go away to college with out his dad demanding he stay at home half the week. I bet he counted the seconds he turned of age to be able to finally leave and that was shut down by his dad and the money factor his dad had it all and would threaten to boot him out with nothing if he didn’t obey his demands and after growing up wealthy like that where you had everything but never your own money or decisions that would be a horrific situation for anyone so he had no rational choice but to obey. I bet it was terrible for Eric to have to come back after being away half the week I’m sure that only lasted a short time before the brothers snapped and when Lyle found out what was going on I’m sure the plan began to end the abuse themselves it’s been enough time served they are rehabilitated and very stable to be let back in society to live out the rest of their life’s and not harm no one. Imagine the good they can do now there’s a huge range of places and programs that need real grown healed and caring survivors to help others who are currently experiencing acute family abuse nowadays and may need people to learn and lookup too the Positive things that may happen if released out weight the negatives by far
@blindsidedbylife143 Typical liberal deadbeat. They went back to reload??? They both broke losers and should rot in prison. This is way more important than getting rid of the crap ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THE USA.
The sad part that there’s an audio recording of Erik calling Barbara Walter’s a “friend”. If she’s a friend, then I don’t know how the other people in Erik’s lives behaved.
They're not serial killers. They were driven insane by their monster parents. They have served their time and are rehabilitated. It's time to set them free.. 🙏🙏
I feel like abuse does justify it. I mean don't rape your children - who can't defend themselves. Why do they act like it's not justified. Don't rape your kids.
Right! I can't believe ppl would say it doesn't justify it, especially when it comes to kids....To me hurting kids in violent ways are worse than murder...
@@googleaccount2637 Watch the first trial with all the doctor's records of bodily harm and family testimonies. All those evidence were, then, deemed inadmissable by the judge for the second trial.
I think the issue here is people are so afraid to accept that kind, smart, well-educated, gentle young men can snap in a moment that had a build of a lifetime of horrendous abuse of all forms, not by strangers but at the hands of their own caregivers. We can all capable of doing violent brutal things to ourselves and to others, things we cannot imagine we would ever do. That is the truth, we are human, and no one absolutely no one should be defined by their mistake, especially in those extreme circumstances.
@Abelone_ That's quite an ignorant statement to make you don't know me. I was around when it happened. I know the story, and I don't have to read it or watch some silly Netflix program, unlike some I'm not a fanboy that panders to Kim k and the other celebrities maybe you do I don't know
@@punchy1325 im sorry. I don’t know u but I just thought u didn’t know the story since u asked what make them special and that’s just they have been through a lot and they was scared of what’s going to happend that weekend or that week. But ofc I didn’t mean to be mean..
@@punchy1325 that's true don't get me wrong , but this isn't about somebody else when you pressed this video it said Menendez brothers not some other person. I'm well aware that there are more out there , but it doesn't mean that they don't need freedom. i think everyone deserves freedom even if they are not ' special '
@@jordanm1438 no they sure haven’t almost all of her interviews are awkward to watch. She seems to feel like she has the right to interrogate her guests and the more I watch old ones she has done the more I dislike her tv personality Oprah is the same way idk nowadays That kind of behavior displayed by TV journalist that have shows just doesn’t fly anymore. It really comes across as out of line and not really their place to act like that to others I mean if she was still alive and having her shows I really doubt anybody would want to be on her show that has done any kind of wrong doing in the public eye for real.
Lyle sexually abused Eric. Did you know that? How does that make him any kind of hero? Lyle slaughtered his parents brutally. Lyle went out celebrating and shopping and had gone through $700 000 before he got arrested.
@@rl7012 no Lyle did not sexual abuse Erik and There is nothing and no where that’s stated so stop spreading false information stick to what’s actual facts please
Eric had a very caring spirit. He did not want to hurt his family, so he took this horrific abuse from the time he was abused. As a child all he wanted was love And acceptance . Instead disappointment , pain Heartache And abuse Over and over. He finally snapped. They had reason To fear For their Lives
@@deckzone3000 They're victims who made a bad choice in how to stop their ab*se because at the time their minds were altered to only know fear in their home. Was it the right choice? Obviously not, but a victims mind is often altered. They are not some callous killers going after people, they were scared young men who face years of torture at the hands of their parents and they made an awful and life altering choice that took the lives of their parents. The brothers are victims and yes, it would have been better had they faced legal consequences for what they did to their sons, but look at that, even when the brothers spoke their truth with countless people backing their claims? People still refused to believe them.
The part I don’t understand is in the first trial they had a hung jury then second trial life without parole that’s a big difference makes it seem fishy
It’s because the Judge didn’t allow the the defence to present their full case in the second trial. So many of the witnesses were not allowed to testify, including family and experts that evaluated the brothers, as well as the other corroborating evidence such as the nude photos, medical records, etc. this is because the judge was biased and wanted a conviction for the brothers. The fact that OJ Simpson had just gone free made the public very angry with the ‘justice system’ so the judge needed a conviction to look good. It’s horrible
That's because the judge, who was the same judge from the first trial, ruled he wouldn't accept the abuse as part of the defense. After OJ walking free, they wanted to hang the brothers to show strength.
Right. The aunt's testimony used in the first trial was not allowed in the second trial either. She confirmed two things with her testimony. 1) she was told by one of the brothers at 8yr's old, that he was being touched. 2) That she took him to his mother to report what she had been told, and the mother wouldn't accept it seeming like she already knew. This had the potential to allow them to be charged with Manslaughter at the very least. But without that information being relayed to the jury it was either murder or nothing. The jury went with the straight murder charge because they did commit murder.
@@PennyWinchester-z7b in my opinion someone close to Jose where he worked had to of known all this and paid the court system off to squash this case and put them in prison forever and never be brought out again and it worked but it’s been 35 years now those people in charge back then are long gone and so is the money that was abundant to Jose’s business colleagues and coverup crew so let them brothers out they served their time! No one that was around back then who were was part of the hidden truth on Jose’s camp is around nowadays so there’s no reason to keep these guys locked up anymore. Sadly money corruption bought by money and the shame it would have brought to Jose’s business empire he was close too prevailed back then and they were shut up locked up and nobody was ever held accountable for any of Jose’s evil wrongdoings because you know dam well even after the murders the would have been at least one person who was still trying to keep it all under lock and key because so much money and other peoples careers were connected to Jose’s business side of it all. And in the early 90’s the amount of money and business dealings Jose and his empire was flowing in could be compared to the Amazon empire wealth and connections nowadays in my opinion
Those defending the parents are talking more about yourselves because with the evidence, the family highlighting the verbal and physical abuse, no one speaks well of jose and kitty... the real monsters are their parents and not them.
4:45 “Stone cold killers” usually kill with no reason nor emotion. Nobody is justifying the murder not even Lyle and Eric themselves. It’s a fact they killed their parents but the abuse did happen. Their brains are 100% psychologically affected. If half these law professionals had the decency to understand the brain and trauma, they’d be able to distinguish true cold stone killers and people possible of rehabilitation. These boys are also victims and Society failed to see that, they deserved not only a fair conviction but help as well. It’s been 35 years of healing, reflection and pain. It’s time we see them free.
They were brainwashed with fear and killed their abusers. A life for a life in my opinion. Their parents tortured and killed their heart and innocent souls the day their father raped them and the mother knew and stood by and did nothing and both parents continued to do so day after day, week after week, month after month for many many years. Murder is not the answer BUT... sometimes for tortured and abused victims , especially kids and young adults, it seems like its the only way out. They say at 18 and 20 of age they should have known better, but c'mon! Even now as a 40yr old I can honestly say for myself that looking back on myself at 18yrs of age, the things I did was just stupid and that I was still a literal kid by terms of ways of thinking etc. Just because the law labels you as an adult at 18 does not mean that you have the maturity and mental capacity of an adult especially if you have been mentally and physically abused and brainwashed as these brothers have since childhood. They did their time, 35yrs is enough. Free them and let them heal and live whatever life they have left.
What people need to realise, these corrupt acts the parents inflicted on them was wayyy more taboo back then. The phrasing during the trials tells you this much: 'sex with your father' rather than 'raped/molested by your parents'. Even if they had come out and confessed, they would have not been believed and reduced to a laughing stock. Erik probably would have taken his life, and the whole thing could have unfolded much differently. Even after all these years, their stories have remained consistent, family members even testified- and it still wasn't enough because back then the societal view of things such as rape and molestation involving men were not topics of discussion-it was avoided like the plague.
Yes, it was but these guys did not have a defense or they would’ve never went to prison. Why now are the family member speaking up? Why didn’t they step in and defend them so they did not have to go to prisonwhy now
@@keepitforreally4501 probably bc the menudo member , Ray, barely came out with his story of being abused/ raped by Jose. Not sure why he did not come out with this earlier. Maybe he was too embarrassed 😞
I’m gonna cry if they will get their freedom meaning I will be so freaking happy!!!!!!! They deserve to get their freedom and find their peace outside the jail bars..
@@jamesfestini good ol Rosie she always seems to appear randomly in certain situations that she doesn’t seem relevant now doesn’t she lmao 🤣 makes you wonder why and how she could possible be beneficial
Did I just hear Rosie O’Donnell say at 21 their young brains were not fully grown yet? So how does that compute for all the other young under developed brains making life changing decisions about removing and/or changing their biological sexual organs and/or fetuses? I’m confused, please have Rosie explain.
Re: comment: 👆I would try but it’d take too long. The male brain if not damaged in a serious way literally doesn’t fully develop till age 25+30 yrs. Don’t ask why. Can’t clearly explain it here.
That journalist isn't a critical thinker. To just blindly have faith in a judicial system that stated "men can't be raped because they dont have the necessary equipment" is just insane. They served 35 years. If they had been sent to prison with a 35-year sentence and got out, no one would be arguing they didn't serve enough time because 35 years is beyond enough. Everyone in that family and people outside the family feared Jose. And the mother...she let that man RAPE her son till he wouldn't take it anymore. Abuse messes you up, Mr. Sport journalist. Rape messes you up. So, when they're released by the court system, just accept it.
@@kathiebradley5881 omg that quote "men can't be raped" I still can't believe it, that prosecutor was awful. I can imagine if her son would be raped she would be like: "no honey, you can't be raped, don't be silly" it makes me angry
@@Miluleone I’ve never heard this but all I’m gonna add is WHAT THE ACTUAL F kind of bs is that completely the worst thing you could say about men who were sexually abused OMG that truly make me so mad 😡
@@blindsidedbylife143 Right?? I can't believe a prosecutor said men can't be raped, so many people are abused, women and men, she was so rude and ignorant, and she still has no remorse about that, she insulted not only Menendez brothers, but also every boy and man raped
I have been looking at the evidence. I believe the brothers. They have served 35 years already. Rape and trauma changes the brain. I think they should be set free.
When you are abused you are always in fear of that person! You don’t call the police or tell your teacher because you know if that person finds out you are dead 😢you live in constant fear 😮I know from personal experience
These brothers were MEN when they planned this murder. I live in Orange county Ca when this happened.They could have left any day any time but they stayed. Get a job,move out. They wanted $$$. And should never be on the streets
They might be released but what miight hurt their case is the fact he just kept on firing and firing blowing off her face . , that's not self defense. Then they acted like it didn't happen , then attended a basketball game.
@@mimio7933iThat's the part I struggle with , but also they both received 2 life sentencess too. Gypsy rose did not receive a life sentence, i believe thats why she got released. There New judge will most likely struggle with those facts too when determining whether they she be released or not.
@Tina-i69m No, it's called pre-meditated. Kitty was alive when Lyke delivered that final sh*t. Jose was de*d when Lyle sh*t him in the kneecaps. They were trying to.make it look like a mob h*t
I'm sorry but rather these two brothers was rape or not isn't the question here. These two boys was at a age of hat that they could of went to the police and told them what was going on or even a family members who could of took them in , it isn't like they couldn't of hid a video and took it to the police .these boys had money and they were 16and over.i could understand when these boys was little they wasn't in control.and why kill the mother was she raping them too,if they was too scare because of the father maybe the mother was too scare to help when she wanted to.but these two brothers thought they could killed the parents and live it up with the money.
@@Uilani-g4m what I expect is like the 17year old girl who went out the window and called 911when she, and her 14 brothers and sisters that their mom and dad had chain up for years did different where this girl who was home school had enough knowledge to take a old phone and take pictures and the cops went in and found children chain up ,then two rich boys who had a car ,went to school could have had different ways to end the abuse then kill their parents.after the two boys did the murder they went on a spending spree with their parents money.this is what is wrong with this world,the judges let people out every time someone does some kind of criminal activity and they continue to do more crime's.and if it was one of my kids that did a crime I would turn them in because right is right and wrong is wrong it doesn't matter who they are.
It never ceases to amaze me when people say that abuse is not an excuse for murder. That’s not even the issue here. The issue is that they were abused, which can have affects on the psyche and how people think. They can’t think rationally so therefore they do the irrational. The big question was also was it first-degree murder or manslaughter.? It should have been manslaughter given the fact that they were abused to the point where they can think rationally and it had such a devastating effect on their psyche.
If they were the Menéndez SISTERS they’d have been shown more mercy. It’s disgusting that society believed then and to a lesser extent still believes that boys and men do not and cannot go through SA. My first hospitalization, I was waiting for a transfer when two nurses brought in a strong, 6’3” man under some kind of sedative that they’d just jabbed into him. I overheard he’d been drugged and r***d. A whole foot taller and more than twice my weight. It can happen to ANYONE, and it is a soul killer. I congratulate every survivor who got their revenge, no matter how fatal.
Here are some things that still stand out. These young men, not boys had family, money and cars they could have left and got a job and took their parents to court. If the abuse was so bad why stay? 18 and 20 year old planned this murder, then blamed the mafia. Then Lyle molested his own brother. Lyle should not get out of prison. Eric I'm not sure, of course the abuse was wrong! But they had a away out and never took it. How many kids in this world are being abused and have no way out. Sorry brothers I think you made a bad choice. You picked murder over leaving and let the law deal with it. No remorse, lots of spending money and you are going to say it's not about money hmmmm.
Lyle was a confused 7 yo when it happened to him and Erik. He was a confused boy who was so distraught thinking it was normal to do it since his father did it to him.
So are you going to say that to victims of domestic violence? It is not easy to just leave everything and go. It is scary. Their brains have been corrupted by their monster parents at a very young age.
I'm not buying their abuse story. Verbal yeah but nothing more.. they enjoyed that lifestyle but didn't want to be controlled. Both were old enough to move out and get away but didn't. The day on the boat is when I think they planned it all. They are so close it almost makes 1 think they are in love with each other. They do not need to be freed.
They were adults not kids they could’ve left and had their parents put in prison There is no reason to kill even if you are being abused Stop making excuses for their greed
If those were your boys and you found out their dad was molesting them, you would do what? Call the cops? Report them? And then what? When nothing happens to him?
@@kisha1682 why would they do it again???? They were abused by their parents. Lyle had to be transferred because he would not fight back when attacked. Use your brain sometimes. You don’t have head on your neck just to stuff it with fast food!!!
For those that say abuse does not excuse murder thats because so many men do this, maybe their afraid, but more sickening, their devoid of how abuse is violent. Those parents died almost instantly, while the boys abuse was methodical, sadistic and even worse being boys. It makes me seethingly sick how people want to look at that like it was nothing. Their parents created a slow painful death to their children's souls.
Easier said than done. Abused victims feel trapped and feel like they physically cannot leave without the creeping of fear of their abuser killing them in the process. If you’ve never been a victim of abuse, you will be stuck with that narrow mind thinking.
Set them free! They were kids trying to escape the horrible sexual abuse at the hands of his sick dad and while the mom watched and knew all along and did nothing.
Your guilt for supposedly never speaking out against kitty and Lyle Senior for supposedly abusing their sons so badly and Lyle seniors sexually assaulting his sons so badly and the parent family never speaking out. Your guilt is pitiful, trying to make amends letting these deranged killers out. I don’t think the public will be too happy with you people at the end of the day not any of you.
These boys were abused and need release . I have experienced abuse in my family . My mother stabbed me because I wouldn’t eat my scrambled eggs . My mother rushed me to the hospital and I blacked out on they . My mother blamed it on a neighbor child to stal out of jail . My mother told me if I didn’t say it was my neighbor she would go to jail . I was scared of my mother and changed my story because of fear of her . She got away with it . I always hated my mother but never thought of murder of her . Just extreme hatred. I didn’t know how to kill let at my age . These men I understand abuse and family cover up stuff . Who tough these boys how to murder ? Most children don’t know this concept. Boys had to be advanced children . W/ much pain. If these men are released then others will have to be resentenced too because you can not discriminate against others whom made mistakes as well.
It was not a revenge killing!!! Their SA is valid and true. It palatable when watch the brothers testimonies! How can anyone not comprehend it and still say they made it up?! So much evidence proving it!😤
Any evidence? These punks were thieves & murderers. Stole over $100,000.00 from neighbors in the 1980s & tried to get their female friend to lie under oath that their dad raped her.
Exactly there is only hear say. No proof at all. Why would his dad want to molest his own kids when he had the money to do 🌈 acts on whoever he wanted to. They were being taken out of the will. They had to act fast. How do people sympathize with these murderers?
Alan Abrahamson is despicable. Inhuman. Just because he has not experienced it , doesn't mean it didn't happen. A terrible man who may have things to hide. Barbara Walters is mean. I never forgot how mean she was to Dolly Parton
There is SO much evidence they were abused and the fact that SO many relatives of their parents believe them, says it all...
There for the money !!!
Exactly yup 👍 agree I believe them both 💯
Why weren’t the parents family defending them during the trial the first time?
If that was true, they would not be in prison
There was a lot of evidence of what they were doing afterwards, they were on a spending spree
No there isn't. What evidence?
People will never know how abuse affects someone's state of mind unless they experience it themselves. 💔 I wasn't SA'd, but I faced emotional abuse from my mom throughout my childhood up until college. It impacted me mentally, leading to moments when I couldn't escape having bad thoughts. I can’t imagine how much menendez brothers have suffered from their parents, especially from their dad. I endured abuse as well, but their situation was far worse. I hope they will get the freedom they deserve.
I was abused to as a child mentally and physically emotionally abused and they deserve to be free
@@dunamisespada7289 So the brothers should be free because you have been abused? Make that make sense please.
Yes I was emotional abused by my alcoholic parents, my father a bit more as my mother died when I was 17 yrs. old. It really caused a lot of emotional/Psychiatric problems. I've been therapy for45 yrs. off and on,medication,,outpatient programs, support groups, and hospitalizations. Yes, they helped, even having some forgiveness helped the damage was done, and there scars, which is there is no cure.. I feel that this negatively affected the 3 past relationships I had, and it their issues too. I feel better and safer living alone and of course more peaceful. I have friends and church, and my laptop. The thing is I'm doing the best I can."you can't change the past, so why let haunt to. You can't face the future, but you have to want to "Pat Benatar. Sexual abuse, I didn't have, and my goes out to Lyle and Eric. I hope they free of prison soon.
@@alexwallace6120 I was abused to for years I went through it all and I’m in a peaceful place now and living at peace with my daughter sky and I’m so sorry 😞 you went through all that and what help me is talking to someone about it and church ⛪️ and the support god bless you and May god continue blessing your life amen amen 🙏
People do know, ask any survivor and they can tell you. People just don’t want to see it, their minds are closed. All the closed minds protect the abusers and blame the victims. It isn’t justice- it is ignorance.
Don’t sexual abuse your kids
Exactly x
Don’t sexual abuse anyone
For real.
Duh, that goes without saying
Don't kill your parents.
Everyone saying abuse does not excuse murder should shut up. Do you have any idea what abuse does to a child? It kills you inside, and it takes away your dignity. Dignity should be free for everyone.
Apparently, they never suffered from being around someone who was abused, the way it destroys u psychologically and even more, your own parents, nothing is the same.
yes, that's so disgusting to hear. people who have the slightest idea of what actual abuse is more so being abused and betrayed by your own family none other than your own father and mother and this went on for years and years... should by all means shut the hell up because they are more than ignorant
I agree
So true. Louder!
I was abused as a child and it does mess you up mentally and physically and emotionally and what they went through was horrible experience for the menenadez brothers
why do they make these guys sound like they went on a murder spree they killed their abusers
I know! X what the hell x imagine your parents hurting you like that it’s horrific x
And I am sure they were not "cold blooded".. it was an act of self defend from deeply traumatized people
They saved hundreds of children from being abused by their dad.
It was self defense! It was either them or the parents.
Exactly. 100% THIS. They are not and never were a threat to society. I have no sympathy for their parents, only empathy for the brothers.
They are not violent criminals. They were two completely brainwashed and traumatized kids. Anyone under 25 is still a kid. They should be released. There's no question.
Let them stay in prison!
They looked older than me and im 52
@@thedarthflagger They had already been in prison, in solitary confinement with very little access to daylight, for several years at that point. I'd love to see how you would look.
@@kisha1682 you seem like a delightful person. You probably deserve to be in prison more than they do.
25 is definitely an adult. Sorry but 18 and 21 are the only ages relevant.
7:00 he says "that's because we have laws" well you know what? So many times Justice makes mistakes and fails, they didn't have a fair trial, they had so many evidence of abuses, and the judge sucked. Even the jury said after trial: "if we knew everything that they told in first trial everything would be different" is not the same 15 or 20 years, at least they being together in same prison, that 30+ years without parole. The prosecutor Pamela literally said on trial: "Men can't be raped" what kind of Justice is that?
What he said is true there are laws and what u said is true so many ppl wrongfully imprisoned.They were definitely denied of a fair 2nd trial and victims of the culture or perception at that time,gender bias ..that men can't be raped and they were legally adult young privileged men who could have run away.They should go to jail but not for first degree but for manslaughter which they could be released 10/15;years ago.I was one of those who thought they were cold blooded murderers but when I watched Law and Order episodes,watching Court tv,Gen Z tik tok videos ( God bless them,)my views changed..and with the age of me too ,me too.They should be released.And the DA was eager for a guilty verdict after OJ.#freethemenendezbrothers
The term “abuse excuse” boils my blood like no other. They were afraid every moment of their lives because they were in danger EVERY moment of their lives. 😔
@@lauren1779 I agree I mean poor Erik couldn’t even go away to college with out his dad demanding he stay at home half the week. I bet he counted the seconds he turned of age to be able to finally leave and that was shut down by his dad and the money factor his dad had it all and would threaten to boot him out with nothing if he didn’t obey his demands and after growing up wealthy like that where you had everything but never your own money or decisions that would be a horrific situation for anyone so he had no rational choice but to obey. I bet it was terrible for Eric to have to come back after being away half the week I’m sure that only lasted a short time before the brothers snapped and when Lyle found out what was going on I’m sure the plan began to end the abuse themselves it’s been enough time served they are rehabilitated and very stable to be let back in society to live out the rest of their life’s and not harm no one. Imagine the good they can do now there’s a huge range of places and programs that need real grown healed and caring survivors to help others who are currently experiencing acute family abuse nowadays and may need people to learn and lookup too
the Positive things that may happen if released out weight the negatives by far
I can't even imagine how horrible it must have been to live in constant terror and fear for their lives every day that passed.😢 Free them!
Lies
Abusers like to use this word carelessly.
@blindsidedbylife143 Typical liberal deadbeat. They went back to reload??? They both broke losers and should rot in prison. This is way more important than getting rid of the crap ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THE USA.
Freedom for Menendez Brothers 🙏❤️
I can’t stand Barbra Walter’s
Shouldn’t speak bad of the dead.
@@tammyrunyon4457 oh stop, everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on their emotion. No one spoke bad of the dead. snowflake.
every clip i have seen with her pretentious ass while interviewing them has annoyed me.
The sad part that there’s an audio recording of Erik calling Barbara Walter’s a “friend”. If she’s a friend, then I don’t know how the other people in Erik’s lives behaved.
@@tammyrunyon4457oh please. Dead people are not beyond criticism. Would you refuse to speak badly of Hitler?
They're not serial killers. They were driven insane by their monster parents. They have served their time and are rehabilitated. It's time to set them free.. 🙏🙏
I agree, they need to go free.
They were 18 and 21. Adults.
No, they're not serial killers. But they are convicted double murderers. The parents are no longer here to defend themselves.
Are you even abele to think clear
@@deckzone3000 So?
No child had to experience what the boys went through. Mercy for the boy's
I feel like abuse does justify it. I mean don't rape your children - who can't defend themselves. Why do they act like it's not justified. Don't rape your kids.
Exactly!
Yes but they didn't rape their kids. So gullible
Right! I can't believe ppl would say it doesn't justify it, especially when it comes to kids....To me hurting kids in violent ways are worse than murder...
@@patriciaparr5711 is there any proof or evidence?
@@googleaccount2637 Watch the first trial with all the doctor's records of bodily harm and family testimonies. All those evidence were, then, deemed inadmissable by the judge for the second trial.
I think the issue here is people are so afraid to accept that kind, smart, well-educated, gentle young men can snap in a moment that had a build of a lifetime of horrendous abuse of all forms, not by strangers but at the hands of their own caregivers. We can all capable of doing violent brutal things to ourselves and to others, things we cannot imagine we would ever do. That is the truth, we are human, and no one absolutely no one should be defined by their mistake, especially in those extreme circumstances.
they have been in prison long enough! free the Menendez brothers!
There's loads of killer's in prison some longer than them what makes them so special
@@punchy1325u haven’t read and learned about the story tho..😅
@Abelone_ That's quite an ignorant statement to make you don't know me. I was around when it happened. I know the story, and I don't have to read it or watch some silly Netflix program, unlike some I'm not a fanboy that panders to Kim k and the other celebrities maybe you do I don't know
@@punchy1325 im sorry. I don’t know u but I just thought u didn’t know the story since u asked what make them special and that’s just they have been through a lot and they was scared of what’s going to happend that weekend or that week. But ofc I didn’t mean to be mean..
@@punchy1325 that's true don't get me wrong , but this isn't about somebody else when you pressed this video it said Menendez brothers not some other person. I'm well aware that there are more out there , but it doesn't mean that they don't need freedom. i think everyone deserves freedom even if they are not ' special '
Barbara Walters's interviews have not aged well.
@@jordanm1438 no they sure haven’t almost all of her interviews are awkward to watch. She seems to feel like she has the right to interrogate her guests and the more I watch old ones she has done the more I dislike her tv personality
Oprah is the same way idk nowadays That kind of behavior displayed by TV journalist that have shows just doesn’t fly anymore. It really comes across as out of line and not really their place to act like that to others I mean if she was still alive and having her shows I really doubt anybody would want to be on her show that has done any kind of wrong doing in the public eye for real.
@@blindsidedbylife143well said!
@@pamelabuswell8324 thank you
She was vile to them! Shame on her!
Lyle not only saved his brother, but he also saved other children from being abused.
Lyle is a hero❤
Exactly
The gullibility on here is unreal
Lyle sexually abused Eric. Did you know that? How does that make him any kind of hero? Lyle slaughtered his parents brutally. Lyle went out celebrating and shopping and had gone through $700 000 before he got arrested.
@@rl7012 no Lyle did not sexual abuse Erik and There is nothing and no where that’s stated so stop spreading false information stick to what’s actual facts please
Eric had a very caring spirit. He did not want to hurt his family, so he took this horrific abuse from the time he was abused. As a child all he wanted was love And acceptance . Instead disappointment , pain Heartache And abuse Over and over. He finally snapped. They had reason To fear For their Lives
Release them asap.they have suffered enough.shame on the system.
one thing: FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS!
Bottom line, there were and still remain only 2 victims in the Menendez family and those victims are Lyle and Erik.
Andy Cado too.
But they are also killers, so....
@@deckzone3000 They're victims who made a bad choice in how to stop their ab*se because at the time their minds were altered to only know fear in their home. Was it the right choice? Obviously not, but a victims mind is often altered. They are not some callous killers going after people, they were scared young men who face years of torture at the hands of their parents and they made an awful and life altering choice that took the lives of their parents. The brothers are victims and yes, it would have been better had they faced legal consequences for what they did to their sons, but look at that, even when the brothers spoke their truth with countless people backing their claims? People still refused to believe them.
No only.eric and lyle@@peanutbutterbruv
@@heathertapper-gq6pk Yeah no. Andy's life was destroyed by this.
I agree with Sir Gascon. Hoping they will be free and enjoy every single day of their lives.
Me too praying for them
Exactly
Exactly... They have lost their prime years in prison. That's a life sentence in itself...
Barbara was the worst interviewer…absolutely horrid.
The part I don’t understand is in the first trial they had a hung jury then second trial life without parole that’s a big difference makes it seem fishy
It’s because the Judge didn’t allow the the defence to present their full case in the second trial. So many of the witnesses were not allowed to testify, including family and experts that evaluated the brothers, as well as the other corroborating evidence such as the nude photos, medical records, etc.
this is because the judge was biased and wanted a conviction for the brothers. The fact that OJ Simpson had just gone free made the public very angry with the ‘justice system’ so the judge needed a conviction to look good.
It’s horrible
That's because the judge, who was the same judge from the first trial, ruled he wouldn't accept the abuse as part of the defense. After OJ walking free, they wanted to hang the brothers to show strength.
Right. The aunt's testimony used in the first trial was not allowed in the second trial either. She confirmed two things with her testimony. 1) she was told by one of the brothers at 8yr's old, that he was being touched. 2) That she took him to his mother to report what she had been told, and the mother wouldn't accept it seeming like she already knew. This had the potential to allow them to be charged with Manslaughter at the very least. But without that information being relayed to the jury it was either murder or nothing. The jury went with the straight murder charge because they did commit murder.
@@PennyWinchester-z7b in my opinion someone close to Jose where he worked had to of known all this and paid the court system off to squash this case and put them in prison forever and never be brought out again and it worked but it’s been 35 years now those people in charge back then are long gone and so is the money that was abundant to Jose’s business colleagues and coverup crew so let them brothers out they served their time! No one that was around back then who were was part of the hidden truth on Jose’s camp is around nowadays so there’s no reason to keep these guys locked up anymore. Sadly money corruption bought by money and the shame it would have brought to Jose’s business empire he was close too prevailed back then and they were shut up locked up and nobody was ever held accountable for any of Jose’s evil wrongdoings because you know dam well even after the murders the would have been at least one person who was still trying to keep it all under lock and key because so much money and other peoples careers were connected to Jose’s business side of it all. And in the early 90’s the amount of money and business dealings Jose and his empire was flowing in could be compared to the Amazon empire wealth and connections nowadays in my opinion
@@blindsidedbylife143 well said completely agree
Those defending the parents are talking more about yourselves because with the evidence, the family highlighting the verbal and physical abuse, no one speaks well of jose and kitty... the real monsters are their parents and not them.
100
4:45 “Stone cold killers” usually kill with no reason nor emotion. Nobody is justifying the murder not even Lyle and Eric themselves. It’s a fact they killed their parents but the abuse did happen. Their brains are 100% psychologically affected. If half these law professionals had the decency to understand the brain and trauma, they’d be able to distinguish true cold stone killers and people possible of rehabilitation. These boys are also victims and Society failed to see that, they deserved not only a fair conviction but help as well. It’s been 35 years of healing, reflection and pain. It’s time we see them free.
“The abuse did happen”
Are your sources TikTok?
@@Hecoal Tiktok is not the reason I know this case if that’s what you’re implying. If you don’t believe them just say that.
@@Hecoal So you didn't follow the first trial, then?
They were brainwashed with fear and killed their abusers. A life for a life in my opinion. Their parents tortured and killed their heart and innocent souls the day their father raped them and the mother knew and stood by and did nothing and both parents continued to do so day after day, week after week, month after month for many many years.
Murder is not the answer BUT... sometimes for tortured and abused victims , especially kids and young adults, it seems like its the only way out. They say at 18 and 20 of age they should have known better, but c'mon! Even now as a 40yr old I can honestly say for myself that looking back on myself at 18yrs of age, the things I did was just stupid and that I was still a literal kid by terms of ways of thinking etc. Just because the law labels you as an adult at 18 does not mean that you have the maturity and mental capacity of an adult especially if you have been mentally and physically abused and brainwashed as these brothers have since childhood. They did their time, 35yrs is enough. Free them and let them heal and live whatever life they have left.
Cause and effect. Time served! Free the brothers! 🙏
What people need to realise, these corrupt acts the parents inflicted on them was wayyy more taboo back then. The phrasing during the trials tells you this much: 'sex with your father' rather than 'raped/molested by your parents'. Even if they had come out and confessed, they would have not been believed and reduced to a laughing stock. Erik probably would have taken his life, and the whole thing could have unfolded much differently. Even after all these years, their stories have remained consistent, family members even testified- and it still wasn't enough because back then the societal view of things such as rape and molestation involving men were not topics of discussion-it was avoided like the plague.
You're absolutely correct
Yes, it was but these guys did not have a defense or they would’ve never went to prison. Why now are the family member speaking up? Why didn’t they step in and defend them so they did not have to go to prisonwhy now
No proof of this nonsense. Sounds good since they now have no head or mouth to show em they were spoiled brats
@@keepitforreally4501 probably bc the menudo member , Ray, barely came out with his story of being abused/ raped by Jose. Not sure why he did not come out with this earlier. Maybe he was too embarrassed 😞
@@jayboley9683 Did you even follow the first trial? Or do you just watch a 3 minute blurb on MSM and call it in- the- know -of -everything?
Those parents were the sickest parents i've ever known so both of them riped their children, that's far beyond disgusting and cruel
And you know they did how?
FREE THEM!! 💖 I signed the petition now you go do it!
I’m gonna cry if they will get their freedom meaning I will be so freaking happy!!!!!!! They deserve to get their freedom and find their peace outside the jail bars..
I'm sorry but who tf is Alan Abrahmson?!.
Someone trying to stay relevant apparently….
He’s a journalist!! Idk why he’s even in here when he’s not a lawyer nor psychologist
Yeah and Rosie ODonnell
@@jamesfestini good ol Rosie she always seems to appear randomly in certain situations that she doesn’t seem relevant now doesn’t she lmao 🤣 makes you wonder why and how she could possible be beneficial
18-21 the brain isn't developed 🤣 the apparent study says 25 now so since I was only 17 when I got in trouble can I have it expunged 🤷
Actually, the study only studied people up to 26, so it's more than likely the brain never stops developing.
Free the Menendez brothers!!!!!
Did I just hear Rosie O’Donnell say at 21 their young brains were not fully grown yet? So how does that compute for all the other young under developed brains making life changing decisions about removing and/or changing their biological sexual organs and/or fetuses? I’m confused, please have Rosie explain.
Don't listen to Rosie lol. She's not that smart
Re: comment: 👆I would try but it’d take too long. The male brain if not damaged in a serious way literally doesn’t fully develop till age 25+30 yrs. Don’t ask why. Can’t clearly explain it here.
Free the Melendez brothers!!!
It’s menendez
Let them stay with you then
This sends a message that excuses vengeance instead of promoting to leave an abusive home and report ur abuser.
That journalist isn't a critical thinker. To just blindly have faith in a judicial system that stated "men can't be raped because they dont have the necessary equipment" is just insane. They served 35 years. If they had been sent to prison with a 35-year sentence and got out, no one would be arguing they didn't serve enough time because 35 years is beyond enough. Everyone in that family and people outside the family feared Jose. And the mother...she let that man RAPE her son till he wouldn't take it anymore. Abuse messes you up, Mr. Sport journalist. Rape messes you up. So, when they're released by the court system, just accept it.
@@kathiebradley5881 omg that quote "men can't be raped" I still can't believe it, that prosecutor was awful. I can imagine if her son would be raped she would be like: "no honey, you can't be raped, don't be silly" it makes me angry
@@Miluleone I’ve never heard this but all I’m gonna add is WHAT THE ACTUAL F kind of bs is that completely the worst thing you could say about men who were sexually abused OMG that truly make me so mad 😡
@@blindsidedbylife143 Right?? I can't believe a prosecutor said men can't be raped, so many people are abused, women and men, she was so rude and ignorant, and she still has no remorse about that, she insulted not only Menendez brothers, but also every boy and man raped
@@Miluleone exactly
I have been looking at the evidence. I believe the brothers. They have served 35 years already. Rape and trauma changes the brain. I think they should be set free.
Why ? The commited a crime ... regardless of the abuse they didn t have to kill them
Exactly!!
Why hasn't there been a interview of them recently they're in the same prison?
When you are abused you are always in fear of that person! You don’t call the police or tell your teacher because you know if that person finds out you are dead 😢you live in constant fear 😮I know from personal experience
These brothers were MEN when they planned this murder. I live in Orange county Ca when this happened.They could have left any day any time but they stayed. Get a job,move out. They wanted $$$. And should never be on the streets
They might be released but what miight hurt their case is the fact he just kept on firing and firing blowing off her face . , that's not self defense. Then they acted like it didn't happen , then attended a basketball game.
Immediately bought Rolexes too.
EXACTLY! Their actions don’t state they were defending themselves but they outright slaughtered their parents and splurged after
@@mimio7933iThat's the part I struggle with , but also they both received 2 life sentencess too. Gypsy rose did not receive a life sentence, i believe thats why she got released. There New judge will most likely struggle with those facts too when determining whether they she be released or not.
That's called fear when you overkill like that!
@Tina-i69m No, it's called pre-meditated. Kitty was alive when Lyke delivered that final sh*t. Jose was de*d when Lyle sh*t him in the kneecaps. They were trying to.make it look like a mob h*t
When will they upload the rest?
We stand with the family let them go free the menendez brothers 😢❤
why did it take so long for them to review this info if they have had it for a yr?
I'm sorry but rather these two brothers was rape or not isn't the question here. These two boys was at a age of hat that they could of went to the police and told them what was going on or even a family members who could of took them in , it isn't like they couldn't of hid a video and took it to the police .these boys had money and they were 16and over.i could understand when these boys was little they wasn't in control.and why kill the mother was she raping them too,if they was too scare because of the father maybe the mother was too scare to help when she wanted to.but these two brothers thought they could killed the parents and live it up with the money.
So if these were your boys, you would just report it to the cops? You believe in our justice system that much?
@@Uilani-g4m what I expect is like the 17year old girl who went out the window and called 911when she, and her 14 brothers and sisters that their mom and dad had chain up for years did different where this girl who was home school had enough knowledge to take a old phone and take pictures and the cops went in and found children chain up ,then two rich boys who had a car ,went to school could have had different ways to end the abuse then kill their parents.after the two boys did the murder they went on a spending spree with their parents money.this is what is wrong with this world,the judges let people out every time someone does some kind of criminal activity and they continue to do more crime's.and if it was one of my kids that did a crime I would turn them in because right is right and wrong is wrong it doesn't matter who they are.
They killed and didn't expect to get caught.once they got caught,they made up stories.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
They deserve freedom. I’m praying for them 🙏🏻❤️
Love from France 🇫🇷❤️
Several stories with zero proof of any of them …….
They shouldn’t be released.
So you didn't follow the first trial, then?
They have been victims their entire lives. Heartbreaking. 💔
So sad their whole childhood 😢 was taken. Parents are supposed to protect their kids.
Free the brothers
For those asking "why didn't they walk away?' And go where? Why don't people in abusive marriages walk away?
Where is the rest of the story?
Erm it’s been told about 400 times x
mmm watch the netflix documentary or other special than this one, lol
@@yugi960so it's legit since flix of net mad a movie right? Lol c'mon
🙏🙏 May they grant their freedom. They suffered their whole life.
Sad when citizens have more sympathy for 2 killers than those jailed for years for Jan 6th.
THE BOYS..Why do they keep saying that.. they are old men now..They stole my moped in 1986..Never got it back..
😂😂😂
The time has come!!! Set them free, they served their time. Truly hoping they get out.
Life in prison !!!!
It never ceases to amaze me when people say that abuse is not an excuse for murder. That’s not even the issue here. The issue is that they were abused, which can have affects on the psyche and how people think. They can’t think rationally so therefore they do the irrational. The big question was also was it first-degree murder or manslaughter.? It should have been manslaughter given the fact that they were abused to the point where they can think rationally and it had such a devastating effect on their psyche.
If they were the Menéndez SISTERS they’d have been shown more mercy.
It’s disgusting that society believed then and to a lesser extent still believes that boys and men do not and cannot go through SA.
My first hospitalization, I was waiting for a transfer when two nurses brought in a strong, 6’3” man under some kind of sedative that they’d just jabbed into him. I overheard he’d been drugged and r***d. A whole foot taller and more than twice my weight.
It can happen to ANYONE, and it is a soul killer.
I congratulate every survivor who got their revenge, no matter how fatal.
Abuse or not these people were 18 and 21 at the time of the crime. Legal adults which meant that they could have left the home and lived on their own.
Free the Menéndez brother ❤❤❤
So much tragedy in that family. I didn’t think Lyle or Erik would ever get a second chance…
They did have a second trial years ago.
Spending 700k like nothing on clothes
Are they the only people that killed there parents. 😮 many have been abused and never killed. I don't get it😮
Courts failed them! Their cousin and aunt were by their side from day one but courts screwed up big time. All those lawyers should be ashamed!!
Alan Brahamson says that abuse does not justify a revenge killing, sounds like something a abuser would say
FREE THEM
Here are some things that still stand out. These young men, not boys had family, money and cars they could have left and got a job and took their parents to court. If the abuse was so bad why stay? 18 and 20 year old planned this murder, then blamed the mafia. Then Lyle molested his own brother. Lyle should not get out of prison. Eric I'm not sure, of course the abuse was wrong! But they had a away out and never took it. How many kids in this world are being abused and have no way out. Sorry brothers I think you made a bad choice. You picked murder over leaving and let the law deal with it.
No remorse, lots of spending money and you are going to say it's not about money hmmmm.
amen
Yes , i am with you on this !
Yes, and all the steps they took to try to cover their tracks, like picking up the shell casings, trying to establish an alibi, and the fake 911 call.
Lyle was a confused 7 yo when it happened to him and Erik. He was a confused boy who was so distraught thinking it was normal to do it since his father did it to him.
So are you going to say that to victims of domestic violence? It is not easy to just leave everything and go. It is scary. Their brains have been corrupted by their monster parents at a very young age.
Where’s part 2
I'm not buying their abuse story. Verbal yeah but nothing more.. they enjoyed that lifestyle but didn't want to be controlled. Both were old enough to move out and get away but didn't. The day on the boat is when I think they planned it all. They are so close it almost makes 1 think they are in love with each other. They do not need to be freed.
Agree
I agree too.
So you didn't follow the first trial, then? You just heard a blurb on MSM and call it in the know?
They were adults not kids they could’ve left and had their parents put in prison
There is no reason to kill even if you are being abused
Stop making excuses for their greed
Different times back then.
If those were your boys and you found out their dad was molesting them, you would do what? Call the cops? Report them? And then what? When nothing happens to him?
Freedom for ERik and Lyle
Set them free NOW!!!
Even the family said the Father was weird abusive mean and maybe a sex abuser
$$$$$
People need to stay off the internet! Facts are facts! These killers would do it again if freed!
@@kisha1682 why would they do it again???? They were abused by their parents. Lyle had to be transferred because he would not fight back when attacked. Use your brain sometimes. You don’t have head on your neck just to stuff it with fast food!!!
I wonder if that journalist was abuse all his life would he be thinking the same?
For those that say abuse does not excuse murder thats because so many men do this, maybe their afraid, but more sickening, their devoid of how abuse is violent. Those parents died almost instantly, while the boys abuse was methodical, sadistic and even worse being boys. It makes me seethingly sick how people want to look at that like it was nothing. Their parents created a slow painful death to their children's souls.
THE STORY OF ERIK AND LIER MENENDES...
At 18 years old, they could have left home but chose to stay. For what?
Stockholm syndrome is REAL.
What about the mom?? She could've left too! She could've saved her children from her pdf husband but she chose not to
Same reason why many people stay in abusive relationships.
Easier said than done. Abused victims feel trapped and feel like they physically cannot leave without the creeping of fear of their abuser killing them in the process. If you’ve never been a victim of abuse, you will be stuck with that narrow mind thinking.
Set them free! They were kids trying to escape the horrible sexual abuse at the hands of his sick dad and while the mom watched and knew all along and did nothing.
Your guilt for supposedly never speaking out against kitty and Lyle Senior for supposedly abusing their sons so badly and Lyle seniors sexually assaulting his sons so badly and the parent family never speaking out. Your guilt is pitiful, trying to make amends letting these deranged killers out. I don’t think the public will be too happy with you people at the end of the day not any of you.
Media who made these men’s reputation should be sued!
*wheres part 2?*
These boys were abused and need release . I have experienced abuse in my family . My mother stabbed me because I wouldn’t eat my scrambled eggs . My mother rushed me to the hospital and I blacked out on they . My mother blamed it on a neighbor child to stal out of jail . My mother told me if I didn’t say it was my neighbor she would go to jail . I was scared of my mother and changed my story because of fear of her . She got away with it . I always hated my mother but never thought of murder of her . Just extreme hatred. I didn’t know how to kill let at my age . These men I understand abuse and family cover up stuff . Who tough these boys how to murder ? Most children don’t know this concept. Boys had to be advanced children . W/ much pain.
If these men are released then others will have to be resentenced too because you can not discriminate against others whom made mistakes as well.
6:37 wait Lyle never dedicated this song to his parents…
It was not a revenge killing!!! Their SA is valid and true. It palatable when watch the brothers testimonies! How can anyone not comprehend it and still say they made it up?! So much evidence proving it!😤
TikTok is not the law , and law does not mean justice
You guys are disgusting saying they are Serial killers 🤬😡🤦🏻♀️ Sexual abuse from age six 🤦🏻♀️
This is why I hate MSM. They promote narratives, rather, then truth
where do i watch the rest?
Parents do not provoke your kids!!! This is tragic but they have paid enough!!! Set them free!!!
JUSTICE for MENENDEZ BROTHERS
Any evidence?
These punks were thieves & murderers. Stole over $100,000.00 from neighbors in the 1980s & tried to get their female friend to lie under oath that their dad raped her.
Exactly there is only hear say. No proof at all. Why would his dad want to molest his own kids when he had the money to do 🌈 acts on whoever he wanted to. They were being taken out of the will. They had to act fast. How do people sympathize with these murderers?
Amen
Alan Abrahamson is despicable. Inhuman. Just because he has not experienced it , doesn't mean it didn't happen. A terrible man who may have things to hide. Barbara Walters is mean. I never forgot how mean she was to Dolly Parton
Where is part 2? I need part 2. Help!
I need PT. 2 plz!!
Libertate pt acesti 2 oameni, au platit destul!