When you think about it, these boys have been in prison their whole lives. What their parents did to them was probably worse than living in prison. They deserve freedom at this point.
I would say to go to prison for defending yourself and trying to escape from an abusive father who was molesting you for years over and over seems like an extra punishment even tho you were a victim. They suffered and then the judge sent them to jail to suffer more. What a sick world. I have nothing nice to say about the judge and people who voted for murder
@@Gigixcxc that’s not what happened though…. They killed their parents for the money went on Lavish spending sprees and then when the heat came down they had to come up with a story because they’re entitled rich and not tough they weren’t trying to go to prison
Why do these guys get all the coverage when there's literally people sitting in prison who grew up in tougher circumstances who are model prisoners as well???? Why do you care about these spoiled privileged brats? They could've moved out and had nothing to do with their parents.
Beautiful to see their family supporting them and fighting for them after all these years❤I'm keeping them in my thoughts and heart and hoping they'll be home by Thanksgiving. They deserve healing and safety
Same when I was 13 and heard about them and lived a few miles from their home. I was shocked my mom made jokes saying we were going to unalive her for my parents wealth. I too had issues with my parents and felt stuck. So when I heard of the abuse these men went through I had enough empathy to know they really did feel like they didn't have an option and I do agree they should be held accountable but having them be in prison this long especially when Erik had been a model inmate and knowing some of the demons he has for everything that has happened to him without given any hope...to me he's paid his dues he's absolutely reformed. Back in the 2000s I felt that he truly was remorseful and if he could be given back that thought of unaliving them, I think he wished he would have done it right. Either exit out of that family and/or finally talk about the abuse to law enforcement and get some help.
THEY FUCKING MURDERED THEIR PARENTS, TOOK THEIR MONEY AND SPENT IT ON VACATIONS, CARS, JEWELRY, ETC. THEY ONLY BROUGHT UP THE ABUSE WHEN THEY GOT CAUGHT. STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON NETFLIX
I remember when it all happened. I, like so many other people assumed that they killed their parents for money. All these years later and this truth is finally coming out. They should be freed immediately. Justice delayed is justice denied.
@@AnonJ-fx5fl if you watch the trials you'll know that Kitty Menendez also SA'd her Son Lyle.. maybe it's all cuz of generational trauma. I read somewhere that their mother was also SA'd by her uncle, so she did it to the boys too + she knew what her husband was doing to their kids but still she turned a blind eye
This is honestly one of the craziest cases I've read about in a long time. The rabbit hole of Jose Menendez is deep! Really, if you read more about this guy, it's nuts the stuff you'll find out and matches a horror film. Having him as a father must have been a nightmare.
It really is out of a horror film. I think Jose must have brutalized many other boys we do not even know about. The mother was also an abuser and complicit. It is one of the saddest cases I have heard in my life.
The band Menudo with Ricky Martin Jose menendez was their producer and Ricky and another band member came forward years ago and said they were molested by Jose Menendez and another well known music producer..They were for years sexually abused and The band Bay City Rollers were sexually abused by music producer and manager..
Not only that, he simultaneously allowed the prosecutors to argue, in open court, that men couldn't physically be raped/molested, due to their "lack of equipment." It's absurd. Objectively ridiculous, and it was simply abhorrent to let those words influence a jury of their peers, who were quite literally holding both of their very lives in the palm of their hands
@@charlottedowling2241 I agree ..however, the powerful people who put them in jail....won't want them released becuz they themselves don't want to be held accountable for locking them up back then
Society owes them a BIG sorry for punishing them and labeling them as monsters when they were victims. I been saying this for years, as a victim myself, I believe that they always were innocent and needed to be released. Here this day has come, and I hope they get the justice they deserve for their freedom finally ❤
I understand they did a lot of time and what happened to them was horrible, however, society doesn't owe them anything. It's not to ok to slaughter your parents, ever and imo they deserved time behind bars.
They were children when they were abused but so many people concentrate on their sex as males instead of their age. They were children abused by the same people who should have protected them the most!
Erik was 18 when he was s.a. by their father. That's not a child. They suffered all kinds of abuse, so it makes perfect sense for them to have thought they would be killed by their parents that weekend
@@barbarabreunis7788 They were never tortured, chained up, imprisoned, etc by the parents. Grown men should move on and move out. When you parents buy you cars, give you money, pay your college tuition, change the house locks and refuse to give you a key, you are NOT a victim when you REFUSE to leave because YOU know the rules of that house yet you stay so you must like it. Erik liked it and that is why he refused to leave and go to college. Lyle must of liked it too which is why he was still there at that house at 22 despite the father buying him a condo in NJ and paying his college tuition. Lyle purposefully plagarized at Princeton because he missed daddy.
@S.Blonde Erik was locked in the closet, had to use tupperware to go to the bathroom sometimes. They were beaten( family saw that too) and many other things happened, besides their father raping them and sticking pins into Erik.
It’s amazing that these brothers are as normal, compassionate and sane as they are considering the abuse they endured from their own parents ALL their lives. I’m praying that they’ll be free very soon!!
@@d.s.d69their brains were fully developed at that age. It’s no excuse but murder and sexual abuse is never ok. They have done their times it’s time to let them be free.
@@S.Blondedumbest sh*t u couldve said. 1.) how tf you just look at someone and assume they have aids? Anyone can contract aids it's not something u can just look at someone and be sure they have aids ?? 2.) HAD aids? No if it was true he would have aids not have had them, it's incurable. Your ignorance is decades past being understandable.
For the rude biased individuals that still think they should stay in prison for life, if even the families want these brothers back home I say let them out. Most killers' family members dont forgive them. Lyle and Erik dont have sociopathic tendencies. Sociopaths/psychopaths dont confess to their therapists that they killed someone. These brothers couldnt live with themselves. They showed empathy and to this day what theyve done with their time in prison is graduate with a degree, help others heal and create programs and social health groups. These brothers were terrorized and bullied in court back then. Weren't given a fair 2nd trial. There is new found evidence that proves their molestation as children. (Mind you, they only did life because the male jurors thought they lied about their rape. Not because they killed their parents but because they think they pushed out fake tears in court) Please right this wrong and give them grace. Its not like jobs are gonna want them when they get out. Stop acting like they're going to kill again if they get out. They have proven that theyre not a threat to society and they have paid their debt.
@@name02 you're right I mistyped. It was the younger brother in the beginning and then the therapist brought Lyle in and asked him if Erik was telling the truth and lyle said yes so Dr. Oziel (their therapist) took out a tape recorder and said "great now say you killed your parents into this recorder"
They might have hated the monsters series and while it did somewhat vilify them the series genuinely is one of the main reasons they will likely get out.
I’m going to agree and disagree. They already had a ton of support before the series. New evidence were presented and being reviewed since last year. Yes the series got more eyes on the case but it also harmed the case as people are believing the series to be factual and not something made for TV. So more people are against their release and or spreading false information about the case and aren’t doing the research.
I don't this Ryan Murphy and Monsters portrayed them as villians. It showed what the general concensus was at the time. The scene with the brothers in the shower...THAT WAS A FIGMENT OF DOMINICK DUNN'S IMAGINATION! All the scenes with them looking like spoiled brats were someone's opinion! I think when they really watch it, they''ll see that. There is no way millions of people watched that and thought they were villians...especially considering all the press since and this move by the DA.
@@gimmeshooz Wrong. People are seeing them as villains because of the series. These reactors just got called out for believing the series over the documentaries and saying they should stay in prison because of what Ryan portrayed in the TV series. Laughing at their abuse.
This judge and the DA at the time of their trial did not handle this right. When you take a child and start sexually abusing them at 6, they never knew a normal existence. They couldn’t escape from 6 to 18. What outcome can anyone expect when someone is abused that long as a child? None of that was taken into consideration. They just wanted to get them prosecuted with no real thought as to why this transpired the way it did. They couldn’t take it anymore and were not thinking clearly when they committed the murders. They just wanted it to stop.
They can only go by what the brothers actually testified to. Erik said his mother never abused him yet he killed her. Lyle said his abuse stopped at 11 yet he killed them. Do you really think a judge and prosecutors are going to be as overly emotional as you and make believe the brothers testified to nonsense they never testified to? "Couldn't Escape"? is nonsensical when BOTH brothers testified to the numerous international and domestic trips they went on WITHOUT their parents that the parents paid for. You make believed they couldn't escape. They did not testify to that nor did they accuse their parents of chaining them up. It was the other way around. The parents wanted them GONE out of that house, changed the house locks and refused to give them keys yet Erik testified that he "started finding new ways to break into the house" instead of simply being gone to college. August 20th and both adult brothers are still there at the house refusing to leave says EVERYTHING because we all know when fall semester starts and that most college students were already at school getting ready for classes to start. These brothers never even turned in course enrollment forms for fall semester which is very telling of their true intentions.
@corelladoll2051 This person is stating facts. They can only go by the evidence presented in court. These boys could have left. They were spoiled, rich kids who wanted to continue to live off their parents. Both were seeing a therapist, and neither ever mentioned sexual abuse. I wonder why.
no the person isn't going by facts but actually ignoring the facts presented in court. The mother was abusive all their lives and enabling the abuse of her husband towards the children. They didn't kill out of revenge but out of fear of both in impulsive state when they thought the parents were considering to kill them (as they had countless times threatened) due to exposure of child abuse.
Im praying they are returned to their family finally. Its a crying shame they have been locked up for so long and if this was 2 young girls things woyld have been so different and its really a terrible terrible shame
how can anyone be small minded that boys can be abused, my daughters dad was abused on his 14th birthday, and it carried on for a while till he ran away
The other survivor from that monster, stated that their father Jose gave him at 13 or 14 years old a glass of wine and right after he finished the wine he had no control over his body and Jose raped him so bad he was in Excreciating pain for a week. He found the strength and courage back then to speak up and nobody believed him. I always thought these brothers were greedy evil monsters, and they're not at all. You don't counsel people for sexual abuse in prison unless you were!!! Free the Menendez brothers now!!! They earned their freedom!❤❤❤❤❤
I was a child when they were on trial and sentenced, and was absolutely shocked when I watched the recent documentaries (not that lurid movie). I only knew them - vaguely - as the kids that murdered their parents. As an adult now, I am left angry, wondering why every adult that knew something weird was going on did not intervene at the time! I'm glad they're speaking out now, but they utterly failed those boys. It is heartbreaking to me that they were re-victimized by the justice system. Absolutely heartbreaking.
@dlatour1805 my thoughts mimic yours pretty much word for word! I only recently (within the past 5-ish years learned about the abuse allegations, and I was all about true crime long before true crime was “cool”. Once I found that out and did my own research, and have continued to follow their story-I’m absolutely appalled. I had absolutely NO CLUE way back then!!
You know what..... Release them. I didnt care to listen to their story for many years and now that im barely understanding the facts.... i believe them + they didnt get a fair trial.
If they wanted to kill their parents for inheritance, they would have NOT fired shot guns repeatedly on a quiet afternoon in a quiet neighborhood, or pick up the bullet casings. Yes they went to the movies in order to plot out an alibi, most likely due to a sudden realization after the shock dissipated. What they would have done is orchestrate it in such a way there wouldn’t be any clues, they probably would have muffled the sounds of the shotguns, and the list goes on. Or they would have made their lives easier and poison their parents- which shows pre orchestration: this was not that because it was so haphazard. This was a crime of passion, their emotions were on an all time high. Jose was an abuser, so was the mom. She would repeatedly expose herself to her children and play it off as closeness. She was sick as her demented husband. Honestly growing up in all of that, it’s a miracle that they took so long to snap. Their lives were changing, lyle had plans of starting a family and erik wanted to go off to college. Jose didn’t want that, they realised that they were trapped and knowing the true monsters that their parents were, they took their threat seriously. I believe with all my heart that Jose’s threat to them advising them to not reveal everything to the media was a real one. If they had not done what they did, they would have just succumbed to suicide, or their parents were gonna drive them to their grave. People that say that the parents were never able to tell their side, I must ask what side? They would have just deflected and invalidate everything. That gentleman who came forward to say he was also abused, do you guys think that a man with such sick perversions would molest a stranger and not his two sons? Let’s not forget what their early medical records showed- sings of sexual abuse. Everything is pointing towards their favor now and I am glad. May they truly be free after all of this.
This was premeditated. They ran out of bullets and their mother was still alive, so they went back to the car to reload, went back in and shot her again until she was dead. A crime of passion is in the moment, not premeditated. You can use the argument that they served enough time, but not that it was a crime of passion. They murdered their parents in cold blood. I remember the trial. They are definitely culprits.
@@132allie okay, so the intention of my comment wasn’t to paint them as anything but culprits. It was to argue why I thought they didn’t do it for the money.They were old enough to know what they were doing. I’m just saying that if they’d really sat and planned this out to the specific details of it all, they wouldn’t have been caught; or at least for a while. They were wealthy and literally could have paid someone to do the job. You can probably argue that they bought the guns days prior and that meant something... I think that the high adrenaline coursing through them with the situation, the father giving them an ultimatum, the trauma, abuse that spanned for years pushed them into a state of paranoia. I actually forgot that one of them finished the mother off, I don’t think that holds enough weight to class this as 100% premeditated. As grim as it sounds, you start something, you have to finish it. But I think given the literal hell these parents stirred up for them, it’s reasonable why they’d finish her off in a fit of rage/adrenaline. Were they 100% wrong for it? Yes.
Agree with everything you said. The parents were diabolical. I have rarely heard of abuse that was so brutal for so many years perpetrated against children. I know it happens, but this case is beyond sickening.
@@132allie AND went shopping IMMEDIATELY . Everyone is making assumptions well here’s mine, the mom had to go too because she was standing in the way of the inheritance. There’s 2 people who can’t tell their side of the story and they definitely PLANNED it this way.
They were emotionally, mentally, physically, sexually, and psychologically, abused. Deprived from many things even with their dad’s wealth. Igna people would never understand, I guess
What about Eduardo Diaz he needs to be charged for what he did to the menudo band members. He was accused since 1991 and nothing has been done. Justice for Roy Roselló and the others.
Estou acompanhando esse caso desde o Brasil 🇧🇷. A justiça não deve ser apenas racional. Existe muito sofrimento envolvido na história desses meninos agora homens. Eu oro por eles e gostaria de ve-los livres.
The judge in the 2nd trial needs to be held accountable. He disallowed testimony. That's criminal. What's wrong with defense attorneys? I would have said "Fine, don't allow me to present a case then we will not present any. Then ask for a mistrial and his removal as a Judge". That's like with the Wesely Snipes case. The judge stated "Yes all current taxes are not legal. But when you first paid those taxes that entered you into a contract to do so and you just can't stop". At that point have the case thrown out for "fraud" since the IRS didn't notify you that the taxes do not have to be paid and since they didn't you either can't enter into a legal binding contract to do so or the IRS is guilty of defrauding him and every taxpayer alive. I have not paid taxes in over 30 years now. I notified them that I would no longer honor any contract known or unknown that required me to do so. The same with the DMV. The DMV is ONLY for State use and Business use. Not you. Same thing. You have to break any and all contracts known or unknown and then you are not bound anymore. Never let a cop call your car or truck a vehicle because it is not. That means it is for state or business use and not for transportation. They then can ticket you. The courts that hear traffic violations actually does not have the authority to hear the cases. Once again the Judge will rule that by you showing up you entered into a contract, of your own free will, to allow the case to be heard. The first times they tried to get me to show I had an attorney show up and have the case thrown out. My local cops know me and just ignore me now. I wish someone would start a class action lawsuit against the IRS and the DMV. I can't, the statute of limitations has expired since I have not paid a penny to either organization in over 30 years.
Their parents gaslighted them. Erik started talking to relatives about the abuse and their dad gave a threat as to what happens to people who talk too much. Their relatives must know how evil Jose was and with his money and power could easily destroy them if they helped. Also, you need to understand, the abused child or children must be willing to come out about the abuse and more often than not, SA people would rather keep the abuse to themselves or with close relatives. Only SA people will understand what goes through the minds of the other SA abused.
Those boys had EVERY REASON to do what they did. I consider it self defense, those kids were horribly abused their entire lives and deserve to live a happy life without the worlds worst parents. I sincerely hope that the parents are in a very warm place 😢 just so awful what they did to their own children 😢 💔 l pray they are released.
@@MuirmaidenThey were grown men living with their parents. They were unaccomplished, spoiled, entitled and killed their parents because it was time for them to go. Period!
@@anitaneal1779 Erik has only graduated from high school a few months before. Abuse changes the way the brain develops and they were emotionally stunted. There is zero evidence that was motivated by greed, the prosecution was never able to prove that
I thought the laws were set that the defense had the right to present any evidence that could prove their innocence or mitigating factors when death penalty was on the table??
The fact the judge didn't allow the evidence of sexual abuse to be entered into the 2nd trial, it's disturbing but also, is it not a procedural mistake???
Following the murders, Lyle and Erik claimed that unknown intruders were responsible for the murders, framing it as a potential mob killing. Police initially investigated this claim, but grew suspicious due to the brothers' spending and their hiring of a computer expert to delete their father's recently updated will. Erik confessed to the murders in sessions with his psychologist, citing a desire to be free of a controlling father with high standards, which led to their arrests months later.
Many years ago before Netflix I watched a kind of documentary on this case, and how it was presented really made the brothers look like monsters. I don't recall much details/evidence and testimonies being discussed about how the parents, especially the dad, abused and terrorized their sons. Yes, TERRORIZE, because that's what it was. I can't imagine myself or any of my brothers having to face and endure that. Funny how the powers that be and many high society people were willing to empathize with that father (that creep and monster) then and even now, even though they don't empathize with a certain P-D..., whose behaviour was equally disgusting and horrific. Jose Menendez was an evil scum and those boys were desperately trying to end the nightmare and trauma that he represented in their lives. He had already murdered his sons emotionally and mentally. He killed their souls, but thank God, their souls could be recovered and restored through the grace of God and the many counselors, friends, family and supporters who have rallied around them since the injustice meted out to them.
I am a adult survivor of childhood sexual abuse from ( 1 to 4 ) by my father what they went through is horrific I believe everything they said about the abuse because I remember mine my mother took me to the hospital I was ( 18 month’s ) the doctor told her that there was damage I don’t understand how my father or any father could do that to their own children 😢
It’s my opinion: This is a mistake……………… You have “black men” who were drug attacks (crack) who were arrested and serving prison 20 years to life………for “substance abuse” Allow justice to be fair to all mankind right…….. ~ A victim of abuse does not have the right to commit murder. If anyone commits murder they forfeit their life…….For vengeance is not yours saith my Lord~
I totally understand you have your opinion and I am also Christian but this is about the law, specifically in California where this took place. The law has very clear rules about defenses for murder. I am referring to perfect self-defense versus imperfect self-defense. If the abuse was true and the brothers honestly but unreasonable believed they were in imminent danger, meaning even if they weren’t in that moment, it would fall under imperfect self defense. This would be an argument for charges to be reduced to voluntary manslaughter versus murder and would result in a sentence of 3-11 years in state prison, up to a 10,000.00 fine, and other penalties. To be clear they were found guilty in the second trial in 1996 after evidence of the abuse was blocked by the judge. It’s 2024, even if they served the full 11 years they would be out by now. This is why they are recommending a re-sentencing. Lastly remember the Bible also says give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. We must respect the law and use it to fight for justice.
@@katherineruth87 with all your said research for the Mendez brothers try looking in Black communities where Justice is most often denied! You said, Christian…then, have you considered your Brother Paul?
What I find interesting that the documentary didn’t really cover, is that shopping sprees are a known dopamine hit for people suffering from traumatic issues or diagnosed PTSD, which they most definitely would have had. It’s a form of escapism in situations like this, *not a celebration.* They weren’t celebrating their parents being unalived, they simply just now (post unaliving), had access to money to fuel that escapism. There is absolutely no way Lyle or Erik were lying on the stand about their abuse. Lyle especially should have won 10 Oscars if he did - you can’t fake something like that. Erik could barely even speak. I think Lyle had come to terms with living w his secrets, but he couldn’t watch his brother be willing to end his life for the fear he could no longer handle. I also wonder why the defence didn’t push (maybe they did but it wasn’t shown?) for colleagues or associates of Jose to come forward w anything that would support him having those same behaviours outside the home, in his powerful corporate position. These boys could have left the family home, but they still would have lived in fear their whole lives, knowing he could destroy whatever life they tried to make, at any moment. They were in a no win situation. *Their freakin PSYCHIATRIST was on Jose’s payroll.* It doesn’t justify what they did, but it does explain it, & 5-10 years at best (which they really had already served by the time of the trials), is what they should have received. I hope that DA in the second trial rots in hell for the only two options they gave the jury. *How is he not being held accountable for what is essentially professional misconduct at best, with two lives on the line.* Sickening.
I also think they may have been behind bars long enough however, family members are not the judges, either, so it's not up to them to make the decision.
They were adults not children ages 21 and 18. They could of called the police about the abuse or left home. Who shoots their mother in the face multiple times and lets her suffer? The father abused them both.
Most of the time the police do not believe victims so it is naive to think that the police would have helped. Also the fact that their father was very powerful in the community so they would not have been believed. The only thing they could have done was try to escape to a different country.
It's not as black and white as it seems. It was obviously bad that they killed their parents, they will and have said that many times over the years. They never thought they deserved to not serve time, nor them or their lawyers even ever argued that in court. Also, the mother was abusive as well, she was emotionally and physically abusive to both, and sexually abusive to the older brother in particular. About 'calling the police', I don't think you understand the situation. Their father was a terrible man, even the prosecution admitted that and they couldn't find a single person to speak positively about him (or the mother) during the trial. On the opposite end, Erik and Lyle had over 56 witnesses who spoke positively about them, even a majority of the prosecution witnesses did. Not only was their father terrible, he was powerful. He was a multi-millionaire who was connected to some of the biggest names and businesses in the entertainment industry. What do you think the police truly would have done? Either nothing, causing the father to take it out on the brothers and try to silence them, or just bring them back to him, if they told as children. Also, both Erik and Lyle told people as children. For one situation, Lyle told a teenage cousin, who spoke to the mother about it and was ignored. And for Erik, he told a younger cousin he was close to, who didn't know what it really even meant. They were shown from a young age that telling people didn't help. During the trial, one uncle even talked about seeing Lyle be punched when he was five by his father and he didn't do anything besides try to tell the father not to do that. No one ever defended them in a way that helped. So they were 'groomed' to learn they had no one to help them. So they did it themselves. Also in the context of 'leaving home', Lyle had already left home, but was still under his parents' influence and power more than a normal child. This is something that can happen in incest family, very similar to Stockholm syndrome in a way. Lyle would still do anything his parents told him to do, gave them information about his life, let his father pick his friends and girlfriends, etc. Erik was mentally trapped at the house. His father let him apply to multiple colleges and he was accepted and wanted to go to Brown, across the country. But last minute (probably in a manipulation tactic), his father told him he had to go to UCLA and live at home. To a normal person, you may just be like 'no, I'll do what I want', but these were brothers who was traumatized and incest families have a psychological bond rooted in that. Just something to think about. It's not an easy situation. They did something wrong, but their second trial was unfair, which is why the DA is looking for resentencing.
When the brothers were evaluated during the trial, Erik at eighteen had the mentality of a 12 year old so their maturity did not equal their age because of the abuse. It is absurd to say they were adults when abuse stunts a child's ability to mature.
This makes me feel so good that their family is supporting them and fighting for them. I am going to keep on praying every day till I see them walking out of prison. FREEDOM FOR THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Kelly, do you have NO SYMPATHY OR EMPATHY for sexual abuse of CHILDEREN? They GREW UP in a very toxic home with fear, pain and torment from their PARENTS! The very ones who should have nurtured and protected them. What if it was YOU, ABUSED BY YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER for your whole childhood? And to make it finally STOP, no other help around, you killed them? Do you realize they had NO PERSON to help, no other place to go? Desperation gives desperate measures and being young and isolated and inexperienced, they made a bad choice. They've PAID for it now. Don't be HEARTLESS. Imagine if it were you, or your children, or baby cousins or anyone 8 years old and their DAD holding his little face and ramming his c**k down his throat and bruising his soft palette and uvula. Doctor visit proof. Do you LIKE that picture? Because that's what Jose did to his OWN SON'S and worse. Work on KINDNESS. You have a serious problem......
@@BlackCatFilmProductions Not everyone who is abused kills their abuser. They were grown and they knew right from wrong. I know people say they had no where to turn, but in life you always have a choice. Yes, they have been in prison a long time, but that was what the courts mandated. If we let all the people out who killed because they were abused we would be flooded with ex convicts. The reason we have a lawful society.
Your comment shows me that you do not understand what severe brutal trauma does to a child’s brain. You are right, some who were abused do not kill their perpetrators, but many do. I have rarely heard of abuse as brutal as what those brothers endured their entire childhoods. The mother was also an abuser and looked the other way while the father TORTURED his children. It should have been manslaughter. It would have been if they had been girls.
What this family said is so true. While men can be suspects of any case, they can also be victims, not just women being victims (although women can be suspects as well). Not only that any case does not excuse the actions that people take, their stories matter because they explain a lot about how it affects people in a lot of ways through any type of consequences.
i have never been more happy or cried more ugly over 2 people i dont even know, more then i have these last few weeks. they have been failed by so many! its time they get out,get home and live the lives they were meant to have ❤❤
With everything that's in the media regarding p Diddy...epstine...Harvey... there father was probably one of them monsters. These brothers are the living proof they slade the devel.....God bless you boys, 🙏 🙌 ✨️
It isnt only the new generation on the side of freedom for the brothers. I'm of their generation and rooting hard for them. Across the board they are supported and loved. I am on the edge of my seat!
When you think about it, these boys have been in prison their whole lives. What their parents did to them was probably worse than living in prison. They deserve freedom at this point.
Erik wasn’t just in prison at home; he was being held hostage; which adds even more credence to why he felt his life was in danger
Absolutely not !!! I hate when Netflix humanizes monsters for sympathy. When do their parents get to come home
@@SnoopWallace Their parents were pedophiles. I hope this helps.
I would say to go to prison for defending yourself and trying to escape from an abusive father who was molesting you for years over and over seems like an extra punishment even tho you were a victim. They suffered and then the judge sent them to jail to suffer more. What a sick world. I have nothing nice to say about the judge and people who voted for murder
@@Gigixcxc that’s not what happened though…. They killed their parents for the money went on Lavish spending sprees and then when the heat came down they had to come up with a story because they’re entitled rich and not tough they weren’t trying to go to prison
There is a 3rd victim that has spoken since he was 15 yrs. He was in a boy band (Menudo) back in the days when Jose Menendez was executive at RCA.
I hope they will call him to testify in court and get justice
Jose was another Diddy it seems with the same Mentor & behaviors
Menendez + Menudo documentary
I heard Ricky martin was a victim of Jose and Jose was obsessed with him and the band
Yet none of these other people had to resort to murder 🤔
I am 70 years young and a survivor.
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That's wonderful to hear 💪💗
I am so sorry you went through this. Praying for you!!!
I am 68yearsold and a survivor
I’m so sorry 😢.
DO NOT LET ERIK AND LYLE DOWN PLEASE ❤
they kinda did in back then . let s hope they will help for real bc this story killed also Andy
Praying so much for them 🙏🏻❤️❤️
@@nicolebenson4517 💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
@@itsjustmyopinionbut1671 alive yes ❣️
Why do these guys get all the coverage when there's literally people sitting in prison who grew up in tougher circumstances who are model prisoners as well???? Why do you care about these spoiled privileged brats? They could've moved out and had nothing to do with their parents.
Beautiful to see their family supporting them and fighting for them after all these years❤I'm keeping them in my thoughts and heart and hoping they'll be home by Thanksgiving. They deserve healing and safety
When most of the family of the parents believe the brothers, I KNOW the abuse was true. They've served their time. They should be free now.
They should never have been to prison but have therapy
Where is the proof that they were molested as kids?
I have literally prayed for years for their release. I remember when this happened and I believed them from the beginning. It's time to set them free!
God bless you! It is so beautiful when people pray for someone that they don’t know
Prayer is powerful! Praise God and praying for their release. ❤
Same when I was 13 and heard about them and lived a few miles from their home. I was shocked my mom made jokes saying we were going to unalive her for my parents wealth. I too had issues with my parents and felt stuck. So when I heard of the abuse these men went through I had enough empathy to know they really did feel like they didn't have an option and I do agree they should be held accountable but having them be in prison this long especially when Erik had been a model inmate and knowing some of the demons he has for everything that has happened to him without given any hope...to me he's paid his dues he's absolutely reformed. Back in the 2000s I felt that he truly was remorseful and if he could be given back that thought of unaliving them, I think he wished he would have done it right. Either exit out of that family and/or finally talk about the abuse to law enforcement and get some help.
THEY FUCKING MURDERED THEIR PARENTS, TOOK THEIR MONEY AND SPENT IT ON VACATIONS, CARS, JEWELRY, ETC. THEY ONLY BROUGHT UP THE ABUSE WHEN THEY GOT CAUGHT. STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON NETFLIX
Oh BS lady.
I remember when it all happened. I, like so many other people assumed that they killed their parents for money. All these years later and this truth is finally coming out. They should be freed immediately. Justice delayed is justice denied.
If you believe it.
@@Facetiously.Esoteric I don’t
Tired of the mainstream media making cases and being the center on everything
@@AnonJ-fx5fl if you watch the trials you'll know that Kitty Menendez also SA'd her Son Lyle.. maybe it's all cuz of generational trauma. I read somewhere that their mother was also SA'd by her uncle, so she did it to the boys too + she knew what her husband was doing to their kids but still she turned a blind eye
It was a different time. People were smoke screen to the real world around them.
@@Aiya_07 I never know that about Kitty's uncle here. I thought it might have been her father who was abusing her mother.
This is honestly one of the craziest cases I've read about in a long time. The rabbit hole of Jose Menendez is deep! Really, if you read more about this guy, it's nuts the stuff you'll find out and matches a horror film. Having him as a father must have been a nightmare.
It really is out of a horror film. I think Jose must have brutalized many other boys we do not even know about. The mother was also an abuser and complicit. It is one of the saddest cases I have heard in my life.
I am not sure if my other comment went through, but agree with you on everything
The band Menudo with Ricky Martin Jose menendez was their producer and Ricky and another band member came forward years ago and said they were molested by Jose Menendez and another well known music producer..They were for years sexually abused and The band Bay City Rollers were sexually abused by music producer and manager..
The judge that didn’t allow the evidence that would have giving them a chance to be free years ago should be held accountable for that .
Heartless judge. Need to look into his background. How can someone choose to ignore sexual abuse and disallow it in the second trial?
Not only that, he simultaneously allowed the prosecutors to argue, in open court, that men couldn't physically be raped/molested, due to their "lack of equipment."
It's absurd. Objectively ridiculous, and it was simply abhorrent to let those words influence a jury of their peers, who were quite literally holding both of their very lives in the palm of their hands
1000%
@@charlottedowling2241 I agree ..however, the powerful people who put them in jail....won't want them released becuz they themselves don't want to be held accountable for locking them up back then
@@cmacca-y2hmaybe he himself is a predator
I loved how the cousin it's more about understanding than forgiving .
I am a bit older than the brothers, and I stood for their abuse allegations. SET THEM FREE NOW
Their dad was a Hollywood record producer. Let that sink in. 😢
Well yeah! Rich powerful men he had own white party with his own sons 😡
@@Minetty 😭
no diddy
When the majority of the family supports them, are in their corner, the brothers could not ask for anything better.
Except for their pig head uncle who refuses to having the brothers release. He keeps pushy for the DA to keep them in prison forever for their crimes.
@@BlackCatFilmProductions Why don’t you go fight on the frontline in Ukraine or the Middle East tough guy ?
@@Xyz_Littyhe’s not being rude. it’s true. the one uncle wants to keep the brothers locked up forever.
@ BlackCatFilmProductions good for the uncle!
Society owes them a BIG sorry for punishing them and labeling them as monsters when they were victims. I been saying this for years, as a victim myself, I believe that they always were innocent and needed to be released. Here this day has come, and I hope they get the justice they deserve for their freedom finally ❤
You know they blew Jose’s brain out. I do think they have serve their time
I understand they did a lot of time and what happened to them was horrible, however, society doesn't owe them anything. It's not to ok to slaughter your parents, ever and imo they deserved time behind bars.
Bring them home it’s absolutely horrific what these boys were subjected too.
It is actually like a horror film what they endured as children
They were children when they were abused but so many people concentrate on their sex as males instead of their age. They were children abused by the same people who should have protected them the most!
fr, if they were girls this trial would have been different, its fucked up
Erik was 18 when he was s.a. by their father. That's not a child. They suffered all kinds of abuse, so it makes perfect sense for them to have thought they would be killed by their parents that weekend
@@barbarabreunis7788 They were never tortured, chained up, imprisoned, etc by the parents. Grown men should move on and move out. When you parents buy you cars, give you money, pay your college tuition, change the house locks and refuse to give you a key, you are NOT a victim when you REFUSE to leave because YOU know the rules of that house yet you stay so you must like it. Erik liked it and that is why he refused to leave and go to college. Lyle must of liked it too which is why he was still there at that house at 22 despite the father buying him a condo in NJ and paying his college tuition. Lyle purposefully plagarized at Princeton because he missed daddy.
@S.Blonde Erik was locked in the closet, had to use tupperware to go to the bathroom sometimes. They were beaten( family saw that too) and many other things happened, besides their father raping them and sticking pins into Erik.
FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS AND LOCK UP DIDDY DIDDLER
What is the world coming to 🌎 🌍 🌏
He is locked up...?
lol yeah free these murderers smfh
@@brucegreen5781*manslaughterers
@@amberparker9883 until may only then is his trial.
Praying for a quick release
I am praying for them to be your neighbors.
@ I would have no problem with them living next door to me
@@juliej8303 For that you will have to end up in prison with them. LOL
@ well that won’t happen
@@juliej8303 I hope not. We have plenty of killers already.
It’s amazing that these brothers are as normal, compassionate and sane as they are considering the abuse they endured from their own parents ALL their lives. I’m praying that they’ll be free very soon!!
Free Erik & Lyle M. They have done their time for their crime.
There’s so much pain in them 😢
Prayer from Indonesia 🙏🏽
SET THEM FREE!!
Let them out. Any claim of sexual abuse needs to be heard. They were children when they committed this crime.
They were not children, 18 years old and 21 years old when they killed there parents
@@d.s.d69 - Their brain functioning was manipulated by the threats their dad made. Eighteen and twenty-one isn't ancient age.
@@d.s.d69their brains were fully developed at that age. It’s no excuse but murder and sexual abuse is never ok. They have done their times it’s time to let them be free.
Prayers for the cousin. His whole energy is deep sadness.
He probably had AIDs
@@S.Blondedumbest sh*t u couldve said. 1.) how tf you just look at someone and assume they have aids? Anyone can contract aids it's not something u can just look at someone and be sure they have aids ?? 2.) HAD aids? No if it was true he would have aids not have had them, it's incurable. Your ignorance is decades past being understandable.
@S.Blonde Who?
For the rude biased individuals that still think they should stay in prison for life, if even the families want these brothers back home I say let them out. Most killers' family members dont forgive them. Lyle and Erik dont have sociopathic tendencies. Sociopaths/psychopaths dont confess to their therapists that they killed someone. These brothers couldnt live with themselves. They showed empathy and to this day what theyve done with their time in prison is graduate with a degree, help others heal and create programs and social health groups. These brothers were terrorized and bullied in court back then. Weren't given a fair 2nd trial. There is new found evidence that proves their molestation as children. (Mind you, they only did life because the male jurors thought they lied about their rape. Not because they killed their parents but because they think they pushed out fake tears in court) Please right this wrong and give them grace. Its not like jobs are gonna want them when they get out. Stop acting like they're going to kill again if they get out. They have proven that theyre not a threat to society and they have paid their debt.
They both confessed at the same time? I thought it was the younger brother.
@@name02 you're right I mistyped. It was the younger brother in the beginning and then the therapist brought Lyle in and asked him if Erik was telling the truth and lyle said yes so Dr. Oziel (their therapist) took out a tape recorder and said "great now say you killed your parents into this recorder"
@@name02 so yes they both ended up confessing to the therapist. I just saw the documentary for the 2nd time last night.
They won't have to worry about jobs. They will be fine
So you can kill your mom if your father molested you? Biased my ass, just common sense to keep them locked up.
It is time to send them home!
They might have hated the monsters series and while it did somewhat vilify them the series genuinely is one of the main reasons they will likely get out.
I have the same thoughts. They'll love it now. And it wasn't a documentary. I'm sure they would appreciate the ACTING and casting.
Hope not
I’m going to agree and disagree. They already had a ton of support before the series. New evidence were presented and being reviewed since last year. Yes the series got more eyes on the case but it also harmed the case as people are believing the series to be factual and not something made for TV. So more people are against their release and or spreading false information about the case and aren’t doing the research.
I don't this Ryan Murphy and Monsters portrayed them as villians. It showed what the general concensus was at the time. The scene with the brothers in the shower...THAT WAS A FIGMENT OF DOMINICK DUNN'S IMAGINATION! All the scenes with them looking like spoiled brats were someone's opinion! I think when they really watch it, they''ll see that. There is no way millions of people watched that and thought they were villians...especially considering all the press since and this move by the DA.
@@gimmeshooz Wrong. People are seeing them as villains because of the series. These reactors just got called out for believing the series over the documentaries and saying they should stay in prison because of what Ryan portrayed in the TV series. Laughing at their abuse.
This judge and the DA at the time of their trial did not handle this right. When you take a child and start sexually abusing them at 6, they never knew a normal existence. They couldn’t escape from 6 to 18. What outcome can anyone expect when someone is abused that long as a child? None of that was taken into consideration. They just wanted to get them prosecuted with no real thought as to why this transpired the way it did. They couldn’t take it anymore and were not thinking clearly when they committed the murders. They just wanted it to stop.
They can only go by what the brothers actually testified to. Erik said his mother never abused him yet he killed her. Lyle said his abuse stopped at 11 yet he killed them. Do you really think a judge and prosecutors are going to be as overly emotional as you and make believe the brothers testified to nonsense they never testified to? "Couldn't Escape"? is nonsensical when BOTH brothers testified to the numerous international and domestic trips they went on WITHOUT their parents that the parents paid for. You make believed they couldn't escape. They did not testify to that nor did they accuse their parents of chaining them up. It was the other way around. The parents wanted them GONE out of that house, changed the house locks and refused to give them keys yet Erik testified that he "started finding new ways to break into the house" instead of simply being gone to college. August 20th and both adult brothers are still there at the house refusing to leave says EVERYTHING because we all know when fall semester starts and that most college students were already at school getting ready for classes to start. These brothers never even turned in course enrollment forms for fall semester which is very telling of their true intentions.
@@S.Blonde why don’t you make your own post instead of writing paragraphs telling everyone else they’re wrong
@corelladoll2051 This person is stating facts. They can only go by the evidence presented in court. These boys could have left. They were spoiled, rich kids who wanted to continue to live off their parents. Both were seeing a therapist, and neither ever mentioned sexual abuse. I wonder why.
no the person isn't going by facts but actually ignoring the facts presented in court. The mother was abusive all their lives and enabling the abuse of her husband towards the children. They didn't kill out of revenge but out of fear of both in impulsive state when they thought the parents were considering to kill them (as they had countless times threatened) due to exposure of child abuse.
I really hope they are free soon!❤️❤️❤️
They need to be freed 35 years is more than too long to have paid for being victims in a horrific situation
Bless this family and the boys
Love and pray from the Netherlands
They have done their time. It’s time to release them.
My support for the brothers from 🇨🇦 🙏
Come on! Free The Menendez Brothers already !!! 🙄
Im praying they are returned to their family finally. Its a crying shame they have been locked up for so long and if this was 2 young girls things woyld have been so different and its really a terrible terrible shame
Hope they are free soon .... Enough is enough. Sending love from UK ❤
I am very happy that the family supports the Menendez brothers, ❤
FREE THEM
They need to be released! My heart goes out to them!!💔❤️
I 100% AGREE with you
If the whole family wants them home, that should speak volumes. Free the Menendez Brothers!
Not the whole family. Why don't they have Kitty's brother Milton on the news who says this whole thing is BS?
Another female too smart for her own good
@@EM-mw2qrbecause he’s full of BS
the uncle ... moms brother said NOPE KEEP THEM IN THERE THEY KILLED MY SISTER LIKE AN ANIMAL
@@marcquishultz6884 That they did!
how can anyone be small minded that boys can be abused, my daughters dad was abused on his 14th birthday, and it carried on for a while till he ran away
Would love to see these 2 guys walk free
Looking forward to hearing the moment it is announced: FREE!!
They'll be free by the holidays.
@@TT_09what a joke
🙏 📿
Freedom could take longer than yall think. It’s a process and the DAs comment that SA is NOT a defense to murder.
@@ivonneortiz5144 {LAFF TRAKK}
They ain't, gettin' out ...
The other survivor from that monster, stated that their father Jose gave him at 13 or 14 years old a glass of wine and right after he finished the wine he had no control over his body and Jose raped him so bad he was in Excreciating pain for a week. He found the strength and courage back then to speak up and nobody believed him. I always thought these brothers were greedy evil monsters, and they're not at all. You don't counsel people for sexual abuse in prison unless you were!!! Free the Menendez brothers now!!! They earned their freedom!❤❤❤❤❤
Justice for the brothers…they just need a lot of love from everyone ❤
Set them free!! Kyle and Erik: The real victims! Set them free!
I sincerely support the Menendez brothers and their family. ❤❤❤
I was a child when they were on trial and sentenced, and was absolutely shocked when I watched the recent documentaries (not that lurid movie). I only knew them - vaguely - as the kids that murdered their parents. As an adult now, I am left angry, wondering why every adult that knew something weird was going on did not intervene at the time! I'm glad they're speaking out now, but they utterly failed those boys. It is heartbreaking to me that they were re-victimized by the justice system. Absolutely heartbreaking.
@dlatour1805 my thoughts mimic yours pretty much word for word! I only recently (within the past 5-ish years learned about the abuse allegations, and I was all about true crime long before true crime was “cool”. Once I found that out and did my own research, and have continued to follow their story-I’m absolutely appalled. I had absolutely NO CLUE way back then!!
You know what..... Release them. I didnt care to listen to their story for many years and now that im barely understanding the facts.... i believe them + they didnt get a fair trial.
Free the Menendez Brothers now!
If they wanted to kill their parents for inheritance, they would have NOT fired shot guns repeatedly on a quiet afternoon in a quiet neighborhood, or pick up the bullet casings. Yes they went to the movies in order to plot out an alibi, most likely due to a sudden realization after the shock dissipated. What they would have done is orchestrate it in such a way there wouldn’t be any clues, they probably would have muffled the sounds of the shotguns, and the list goes on. Or they would have made their lives easier and poison their parents- which shows pre orchestration: this was not that because it was so haphazard. This was a crime of passion, their emotions were on an all time high. Jose was an abuser, so was the mom. She would repeatedly expose herself to her children and play it off as closeness. She was sick as her demented husband. Honestly growing up in all of that, it’s a miracle that they took so long to snap. Their lives were changing, lyle had plans of starting a family and erik wanted to go off to college. Jose didn’t want that, they realised that they were trapped and knowing the true monsters that their parents were, they took their threat seriously. I believe with all my heart that Jose’s threat to them advising them to not reveal everything to the media was a real one. If they had not done what they did, they would have just succumbed to suicide, or their parents were gonna drive them to their grave. People that say that the parents were never able to tell their side, I must ask what side? They would have just deflected and invalidate everything. That gentleman who came forward to say he was also abused, do you guys think that a man with such sick perversions would molest a stranger and not his two sons? Let’s not forget what their early medical records showed- sings of sexual abuse. Everything is pointing towards their favor now and I am glad. May they truly be free after all of this.
This was premeditated. They ran out of bullets and their mother was still alive, so they went back to the car to reload, went back in and shot her again until she was dead. A crime of passion is in the moment, not premeditated. You can use the argument that they served enough time, but not that it was a crime of passion. They murdered their parents in cold blood. I remember the trial. They are definitely culprits.
@@132allie okay, so the intention of my comment wasn’t to paint them as anything but culprits. It was to argue why I thought they didn’t do it for the money.They were old enough to know what they were doing. I’m just saying that if they’d really sat and planned this out to the specific details of it all, they wouldn’t have been caught; or at least for a while. They were wealthy and literally could have paid someone to do the job. You can probably argue that they bought the guns days prior and that meant something... I think that the high adrenaline coursing through them with the situation, the father giving them an ultimatum, the trauma, abuse that spanned for years pushed them into a state of paranoia. I actually forgot that one of them finished the mother off, I don’t think that holds enough weight to class this as 100% premeditated. As grim as it sounds, you start something, you have to finish it. But I think given the literal hell these parents stirred up for them, it’s reasonable why they’d finish her off in a fit of rage/adrenaline. Were they 100% wrong for it? Yes.
Agree with everything you said. The parents were diabolical. I have rarely heard of abuse that was so brutal for so many years perpetrated against children. I know it happens, but this case is beyond sickening.
@@132allie AND went shopping IMMEDIATELY . Everyone is making assumptions well here’s mine, the mom had to go too because she was standing in the way of the inheritance. There’s 2 people who can’t tell their side of the story and they definitely PLANNED it this way.
@@132alliebuu we don't care
While i feel they have done their time let us not forget they murdered their parents then went on a shopping spree they are no angels
They were emotionally, mentally, physically, sexually, and psychologically, abused. Deprived from many things even with their dad’s wealth. Igna people would never understand, I guess
What about Eduardo Diaz he needs to be charged for what he did to the menudo band members. He was accused since 1991 and nothing has been done. Justice for Roy Roselló and the others.
FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS
Why am I more excited than this panel ?
They seem very uncomfortable on camera.
@@jazzyg530 I think they don`t get used to it☺
Considering the case this is personal to them. Not like your weird asses bro. You want them to smile when the whole situation is f’d
Me too! So excited!! I pray they be freed 🙏🏼.
This is their own blood. They have dealt with the sadness of this case for decades. I think they don’t want to get their hopes up too high
Estou acompanhando esse caso desde o Brasil 🇧🇷. A justiça não deve ser apenas racional. Existe muito sofrimento envolvido na história desses meninos agora homens. Eu oro por eles e gostaria de ve-los livres.
The judge in the 2nd trial needs to be held accountable. He disallowed testimony. That's criminal. What's wrong with defense attorneys? I would have said "Fine, don't allow me to present a case then we will not present any. Then ask for a mistrial and his removal as a Judge".
That's like with the Wesely Snipes case. The judge stated "Yes all current taxes are not legal. But when you first paid those taxes that entered you into a contract to do so and you just can't stop". At that point have the case thrown out for "fraud" since the IRS didn't notify you that the taxes do not have to be paid and since they didn't you either can't enter into a legal binding contract to do so or the IRS is guilty of defrauding him and every taxpayer alive.
I have not paid taxes in over 30 years now. I notified them that I would no longer honor any contract known or unknown that required me to do so. The same with the DMV. The DMV is ONLY for State use and Business use. Not you. Same thing. You have to break any and all contracts known or unknown and then you are not bound anymore. Never let a cop call your car or truck a vehicle because it is not. That means it is for state or business use and not for transportation. They then can ticket you. The courts that hear traffic violations actually does not have the authority to hear the cases. Once again the Judge will rule that by you showing up you entered into a contract, of your own free will, to allow the case to be heard. The first times they tried to get me to show I had an attorney show up and have the case thrown out. My local cops know me and just ignore me now.
I wish someone would start a class action lawsuit against the IRS and the DMV. I can't, the statute of limitations has expired since I have not paid a penny to either organization in over 30 years.
if they have all those supportive family. Why couldn’t they seek help instead of what they did
Their parents gaslighted them. Erik started talking to relatives about the abuse and their dad gave a threat as to what happens to people who talk too much. Their relatives must know how evil Jose was and with his money and power could easily destroy them if they helped. Also, you need to understand, the abused child or children must be willing to come out about the abuse and more often than not, SA people would rather keep the abuse to themselves or with close relatives. Only SA people will understand what goes through the minds of the other SA abused.
@@ihaveadreamformykids4400 thanks for taking the time to help me understand.
These men need freedom and live their own lives without being in abuse by their awful parents.
Those boys had EVERY REASON to do what they did. I consider it self defense, those kids were horribly abused their entire lives and deserve to live a happy life without the worlds worst parents. I sincerely hope that the parents are in a very warm place 😢 just so awful what they did to their own children 😢 💔 l pray they are released.
The parents can’t tell their side.
I’m glad you’re not in charge of anything. Syko bltch
It was NOT self defense.
@@BostonEsq Those guy were robbing houses, stealing cars and committing all kinds of crimes.
@@anitaneal1779 I never said they didnt.
What about the uncle who is against their release?
why will they set free?! they killed their parents,
Liars and premeditated MURDERERS!
They should never be released
They lost most of their lives. What an injustice that the judge would not allow the SA evidence to be show. Does not even make sense?
They are still murders
They murdered their parents, you people are sickos
Exactly.
Enough is enough. Let them go!❤❤
Montreal Canada
Let them go in Montreal Canada, right next to where you live
They had to kill their mom??? Why did they kill her?
@@kc006 She was as bad as their father. Watch the first trial.
@@MuirmaidenThey were grown men living with their parents. They were unaccomplished, spoiled, entitled and killed their parents because it was time for them to go. Period!
@@anitaneal1779 Erik has only graduated from high school a few months before. Abuse changes the way the brain develops and they were emotionally stunted. There is zero evidence that was motivated by greed, the prosecution was never able to prove that
I thought the laws were set that the defense had the right to present any evidence that could prove their innocence or mitigating factors when death penalty was on the table??
The fact the judge didn't allow the evidence of sexual abuse to be entered into the 2nd trial, it's disturbing but also, is it not a procedural mistake???
They are murderers and they should be kept in prison.
I believe their testimony .. i hope they will be given a chance ..
Following the murders, Lyle and Erik claimed that unknown intruders were responsible for the murders, framing it as a potential mob killing. Police initially investigated this claim, but grew suspicious due to the brothers' spending and their hiring of a computer expert to delete their father's recently updated will. Erik confessed to the murders in sessions with his psychologist, citing a desire to be free of a controlling father with high standards, which led to their arrests months later.
Many years ago before Netflix I watched a kind of documentary on this case, and how it was presented really made the brothers look like monsters. I don't recall much details/evidence and testimonies being discussed about how the parents, especially the dad, abused and terrorized their sons. Yes, TERRORIZE, because that's what it was. I can't imagine myself or any of my brothers having to face and endure that. Funny how the powers that be and many high society people were willing to empathize with that father (that creep and monster) then and even now, even though they don't empathize with a certain P-D..., whose behaviour was equally disgusting and horrific. Jose Menendez was an evil scum and those boys were desperately trying to end the nightmare and trauma that he represented in their lives. He had already murdered his sons emotionally and mentally. He killed their souls, but thank God, their souls could be recovered and restored through the grace of God and the many counselors, friends, family and supporters who have rallied around them since the injustice meted out to them.
Perfectly said thank you.
FREE LYLE & ERIK
❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am a adult survivor of childhood sexual abuse from ( 1 to 4 ) by my father what they went through is horrific I believe everything they said about the abuse because I remember mine my mother took me to the hospital I was ( 18 month’s ) the doctor told her that there was damage I don’t understand how my father or any father could do that to their own children 😢
did you kill your father?
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There is no justification for murder !
They have served their time.
It’s my opinion:
This is a mistake………………
You have “black men” who were drug attacks (crack) who were arrested and serving prison 20 years to life………for “substance abuse” Allow justice to be fair to all mankind right……..
~ A victim of abuse does not have the right to commit murder. If anyone commits murder they forfeit their life…….For vengeance is not yours saith my Lord~
Poor remarks
@@veracity8968 prove it!
I totally understand you have your opinion and I am also Christian but this is about the law, specifically in California where this took place. The law has very clear rules about defenses for murder. I am referring to perfect self-defense versus imperfect self-defense. If the abuse was true and the brothers honestly but unreasonable believed they were in imminent danger, meaning even if they weren’t in that moment, it would fall under imperfect self defense. This would be an argument for charges to be reduced to voluntary manslaughter versus murder and would result in a sentence of 3-11 years in state prison, up to a 10,000.00 fine, and other penalties. To be clear they were found guilty in the second trial in 1996 after evidence of the abuse was blocked by the judge. It’s 2024, even if they served the full 11 years they would be out by now. This is why they are recommending a re-sentencing. Lastly remember the Bible also says give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. We must respect the law and use it to fight for justice.
@@katherineruth87 with all your said research for the Mendez brothers try looking in Black communities where Justice is most often denied! You said, Christian…then, have you considered your Brother Paul?
Release them please!!!
Set them free
Why would they be released?? Killed parents
What if they were GIRLS, raped by their father??
ABUSE has nothing
to do with gender
Set them FREE
Exactly
I remain optimistic that they will REMAIN in prison their whole life!
Maybe they should look at the crime scene photos.
They have and all know and yet understand and call it a tragedy not a crime. Wonder why you don't understand or don't want to understand the context?
What I find interesting that the documentary didn’t really cover, is that shopping sprees are a known dopamine hit for people suffering from traumatic issues or diagnosed PTSD, which they most definitely would have had. It’s a form of escapism in situations like this, *not a celebration.* They weren’t celebrating their parents being unalived, they simply just now (post unaliving), had access to money to fuel that escapism. There is absolutely no way Lyle or Erik were lying on the stand about their abuse. Lyle especially should have won 10 Oscars if he did - you can’t fake something like that. Erik could barely even speak. I think Lyle had come to terms with living w his secrets, but he couldn’t watch his brother be willing to end his life for the fear he could no longer handle.
I also wonder why the defence didn’t push (maybe they did but it wasn’t shown?) for colleagues or associates of Jose to come forward w anything that would support him having those same behaviours outside the home, in his powerful corporate position. These boys could have left the family home, but they still would have lived in fear their whole lives, knowing he could destroy whatever life they tried to make, at any moment. They were in a no win situation. *Their freakin PSYCHIATRIST was on Jose’s payroll.* It doesn’t justify what they did, but it does explain it, & 5-10 years at best (which they really had already served by the time of the trials), is what they should have received. I hope that DA in the second trial rots in hell for the only two options they gave the jury. *How is he not being held accountable for what is essentially professional misconduct at best, with two lives on the line.* Sickening.
Why didn’t their family do anything to get them out of that house? Are they accountable for letting it happen?
This whole thing stinks. What a crock.
Did you do any research before commenting ??
Why are the haters still talking ?? if the family members want them home ur opinion doesn't matter any more
The haters know nothing about their story, they just wanna irritate people who believe in them
I also think they may have been behind bars long enough however, family members are not the judges, either, so it's not up to them to make the decision.
@ true, but they’re not just their family though, they’re the victims family
We believe and we will fight with you 💖 praying for them all
YOU BELIEVE
They were adults not children ages 21 and 18. They could of called the police about the abuse or left home. Who shoots their mother in the face multiple times and lets her suffer? The father abused them both.
Most of the time the police do not believe victims so it is naive to think that the police would have helped. Also the fact that their father was very powerful in the community so they would not have been believed. The only thing they could have done was try to escape to a different country.
It's not as black and white as it seems. It was obviously bad that they killed their parents, they will and have said that many times over the years. They never thought they deserved to not serve time, nor them or their lawyers even ever argued that in court. Also, the mother was abusive as well, she was emotionally and physically abusive to both, and sexually abusive to the older brother in particular.
About 'calling the police', I don't think you understand the situation. Their father was a terrible man, even the prosecution admitted that and they couldn't find a single person to speak positively about him (or the mother) during the trial. On the opposite end, Erik and Lyle had over 56 witnesses who spoke positively about them, even a majority of the prosecution witnesses did. Not only was their father terrible, he was powerful. He was a multi-millionaire who was connected to some of the biggest names and businesses in the entertainment industry. What do you think the police truly would have done? Either nothing, causing the father to take it out on the brothers and try to silence them, or just bring them back to him, if they told as children. Also, both Erik and Lyle told people as children. For one situation, Lyle told a teenage cousin, who spoke to the mother about it and was ignored. And for Erik, he told a younger cousin he was close to, who didn't know what it really even meant. They were shown from a young age that telling people didn't help. During the trial, one uncle even talked about seeing Lyle be punched when he was five by his father and he didn't do anything besides try to tell the father not to do that. No one ever defended them in a way that helped. So they were 'groomed' to learn they had no one to help them. So they did it themselves.
Also in the context of 'leaving home', Lyle had already left home, but was still under his parents' influence and power more than a normal child. This is something that can happen in incest family, very similar to Stockholm syndrome in a way. Lyle would still do anything his parents told him to do, gave them information about his life, let his father pick his friends and girlfriends, etc. Erik was mentally trapped at the house. His father let him apply to multiple colleges and he was accepted and wanted to go to Brown, across the country. But last minute (probably in a manipulation tactic), his father told him he had to go to UCLA and live at home. To a normal person, you may just be like 'no, I'll do what I want', but these were brothers who was traumatized and incest families have a psychological bond rooted in that.
Just something to think about. It's not an easy situation. They did something wrong, but their second trial was unfair, which is why the DA is looking for resentencing.
When the brothers were evaluated during the trial, Erik at eighteen had the mentality of a 12 year old so their maturity did not equal their age because of the abuse. It is absurd to say they were adults when abuse stunts a child's ability to mature.
So did the b...h kitty
The mother was also an abuser and complicit in the father’s torture of their children. I have zero sympathy for her.
I’m glad he called out that series for its BS!!
If their family can forgive them we can too. Free them already.
God is good all the time,praying for Erik, Lyle,all involved ❤.
This makes me feel so good that their family is supporting them and fighting for them. I am going to keep on praying every day till I see them walking out of prison. FREEDOM FOR THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Last time I checked Murder is a felony !! They need to stay in prison !!!
Kelly, do you have NO SYMPATHY OR EMPATHY for sexual abuse of CHILDEREN? They GREW UP in a very toxic home with fear, pain and torment from their PARENTS! The very ones who should have nurtured and protected them. What if it was YOU, ABUSED BY YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER for your whole childhood? And to make it finally STOP, no other help around, you killed them? Do you realize they had NO PERSON to help, no other place to go? Desperation gives desperate measures and being young and isolated and inexperienced, they made a bad choice. They've PAID for it now. Don't be HEARTLESS. Imagine if it were you, or your children, or baby cousins or anyone 8 years old and their DAD holding his little face and ramming his c**k down his throat and bruising his soft palette and uvula. Doctor visit proof. Do you LIKE that picture? Because that's what Jose did to his OWN SON'S and worse. Work on KINDNESS. You have a serious problem......
@@debraowen6723 Unfortunately, there are others who have suffered abuse and they didn’t all go kill their parents. Are you a relative or something ?
@@kellyburnett1833 Were you ever a subject to abuse? Sexual as well as normal abuse?
@@BlackCatFilmProductions Not everyone who is abused kills their abuser. They were grown and they knew right from wrong. I know people say they had no where to turn, but in life you always have a choice. Yes, they have been in prison a long time, but that was what the courts mandated. If we let all the people out who killed because they were abused we would be flooded with ex convicts. The reason we have a lawful society.
Your comment shows me that you do not understand what severe brutal trauma does to a child’s brain. You are right, some who were abused do not kill their perpetrators, but many do. I have rarely heard of abuse as brutal as what those brothers endured their entire childhoods. The mother was also an abuser and looked the other way while the father TORTURED his children. It should have been manslaughter. It would have been if they had been girls.
What this family said is so true. While men can be suspects of any case, they can also be victims, not just women being victims (although women can be suspects as well). Not only that any case does not excuse the actions that people take, their stories matter because they explain a lot about how it affects people in a lot of ways through any type of consequences.
i have never been more happy or cried more ugly over 2 people i dont even know, more then i have these last few weeks. they have been failed by so many! its time they get out,get home and live the lives they were meant to have ❤❤
With everything that's in the media regarding p Diddy...epstine...Harvey... there father was probably one of them monsters. These brothers are the living proof they slade the devel.....God bless you boys, 🙏 🙌 ✨️
Exactly🎉🎉🎉
Crazy how people use religion to suit their own agenda ...Sin is Sin .. murder lies greex
It isnt only the new generation on the side of freedom for the brothers. I'm of their generation and rooting hard for them. Across the board they are supported and loved. I am on the edge of my seat!
❤ sending my love to the boys and family