If the screen is 5" diagonally, then it's correct. Since most screens are measured diagonally. Like televisions and computer monitors. Great review, as always!
You have a prototype version of the printer, I received it last week and there is a Ethernet port and 180° hinge for the door. Leveling screw design were also upgraded. That is a very good printer for that price.
Very possibly. RUclipsrs tend to get prototypes, and in fairness due to ill health I haven't been able to review this printer as early as I could have. But it's good to hear Elegoo are being proactive.
It's just my speculation based on their eagerness to advertise the easy assemble / disassemble qualities of the Jupiter. Then the mention of an upgrade kit to 500mm, which is of course 100mm taller than the Phrozen 8K. Maybe, just maybe, they're quietly working on a screen that will give 35 micron XY printing. I genuinely hope I'm right in this guess as it would dramatically reduce shipping costs and make upgrading more affordable 😁
Upgradability could be a game changer. A friend has some some very very expensive large format resin printers that became virtually obsolete overnight. It would be amazing if they could be upgraded, they can't, at least not easily, which is a bugger.
Well... I do have an original Mars upgraded with a 1080p mono screen. And now they've released a 2k mono screen for it. It's not on par with the latest generation 4K screens, but other than that it turns an obsolete printer into a fully usable one. Granted, the Mars is probably a MUCH more widespread product than Jupiter will ever be, so it has a higher probability of getting these 3rd party upgrades, but who knows, maybe Jupiter will get a few over time as well :)
@@vogman In a world where the raw material is increasingly difficult to obtain, it seems to me a very successful speculation. I love your analyzes because they are really honest, as well as always coming up with clever ideas for thought.
@@WojciechGolowkow the trend in 3D printers of every kind is aftermarket parts. I think it’s partly the nature of the market, the people who use them are almost always tinkerers and as creality has proven with the Ender line, you can sell cheap trash, allow others to fix it for you with an open source platform, and sell a shit ton of them. Of course being modular means there can be advances in component tech and the extension of the life of the model.
Sir, another great review. I really like how you contextually explain everything. The comparison of the build plates was very interesting. I think it would be awesome if you did a comparison video of the "big boys" . All of the large formats resin printers you have , that is if you still have the 8k mega and at least the Jupiter, and print the largest most detailed figure you can. Then compare the size and visible differences..
Since most people would not be able to justify a complete upgrade from their existing resin printer when something newer comes out, I think modular upgrades are a huge win if they actually make them available!
You could probably mill a 10mm x 3mm cylindrical hole in the side of the resin tray and mount a stirring paddle there, powered by a magnetic drive outside the tray, permanently mounted to the floor of the printer. Kind of a minature version of the washing station agitators.
MODULARITY??? I wasn't even aware of those possibilities! Snagging one from Kickstarter may have been an even better idea than I thought. Thanks for another great review!
Awesome video, I had a mediocre week with my anycubic photon mono x 6k, had to get service involved, they did send me the ultra secret new firmware 023 to stop my layers randomly shifting for some centimeters.
Still waiting for mine to arrive... Was on the first wave early backers too. Glad its working so well for peeps! Anyone tried to add a flex plate yet? Ive NEVER had parts come off my plate as easily as this video lol
You might be on to something with the upgradability. Honestly that would be great. I thought they overbuilt the Jupiter a bit especially compared to the Photon M3 Max. But it makes sense if they are going to continue to release additional add-ons and customization options.
Can't wait for my Jupiter to arrive! Unfortunately this time round I wasn't able to get super early bird, but instead got the second round. Maybe they start shipping out mid-late April for it to reach us in the UK in May?
As for "auto stir" i had an idea a while ago that i wanted to patent (take note dont steal) Where the printer has a tank somewhere and has a pump that continuesly recirculate the resin for the whole print duration and probably integrate a resin heater directly into the loop
If they release a higher resolution screen, 8K or higher, this would become more attractive. Also not loving the plate mounting system. Do love the simplicity of the auto-fill system though, just a bottle cap, which would be cheap to replace and far less likely to fail or clog than the AnyCubic system.
That seems to be a great Printer there Mr VOG 👍 but if they can get it up to the 500mm print height then that will be the printer for New Made-in-Wales. I hope your fully recovered and back to your normal self 👍
Having an issue maybe you could help with. I just got my Jupiter and when leveling front left corner is tight but others are loose. All my print attempts fail. I have not been able to print one test print yet. I think some layers print then it sticks to FEP. Any advice?
Bonjour, j'aime vraiment Hello, I have a lot of amiration on your way of presenting the articles. I have a question because I may be taking the step for a resin 3d printer. do you think Jupiter could benefit from time evolution or do you think Elegoo has a change of heart? a lot of sales at the moment and I would like your opinion on 4 machines if you obviously agree. You place them in your order of preference: Elegoo Saturn, Anycubic M3 Max, the Peopoly forge and the GK 2 (smaller but innovative I find). I don't make miniatures and I make busts or figurines of +- 20 cms in general. Thanks for your feedback.
@@vogman Very hard to keep XP resolution scaling with screen size. Even now prototype Anycubic Photon has a higher XY resolution than my Mono X 4k. I think the K factor resolution race is something of a lite con for those not in the know. People see a number and are wowed by it rather than doing the math. And it's great to see you mention that Pixel count does not necessarily mean higher resolution, many other print you tubers have glossed over it.
More expensive units do. My Form 2 is heated, auto dispenses, and auto stirs. But all that comes at a price. But it is a good sign that lower cost units are starting to bring in auto dispense. In time the other features will be there as well. In fact print quality is pretty much getting there. So the bigger boys are going to have to step up their game to keep those higher prices.
Can you maybe help me with a problem I got with that mashine? The sculptures always keep glueing on the fep film but not on the top ... My wife is Wirkung with it and some of our first prints worked But now it just won't work 😟
No problem Boris. Everyone goes through this the first time. Firstly, take out your resin, filter it, then clean your vat and plate properly. This is important as when you have misprints, small pieces can come loose in the resin and these might puncture the FEP. After that, make sure the plate is levelled properly. This is probably the biggest cause of misprints, so get this bit right. After that, you need to make sure the settings are right on your resin (the second biggest cause of misprints). Have a look at this video ruclips.net/video/jOjB3Fr-0no/видео.html Please don't worry. Everyone goes through this at the start. Once you've got the resin settings right, it will become nice and easy for you 😁
Building printers with upgradeability in mind isn't exactly a new concept. EPAX has been doing it for years. The X10 has had three screen upgrades since it originally came out, and an upgrade to the UV source. They really support their products for the long term.
Great review. Personally I hope they do the opposite and allow a shorter Z-axis upgrade. I sell miniatures so I prefer X and Y expansion over Z height. So for me, there's a lot of wasted Z-axis space.
Why would you want that? If you're only going to print smaller things, there's no point in making the rails any smaller? I don't understand why you mean by wasted z-axis space, it's not like it makes your print any slower or worse.
Looking forward to your M3 Max review, don't suppose you can put them next to eachother? I ended up cancelling my Jupiter and I've just bought a Max - hopefully I haven't made a dreadful mistake.
This!! I am trying to decide which to buy right now! I will hold off for your comparison VOG. I like the extra size and resolution of the max, and better price, but I like the modularity and simple auto resin fill of the Jupiter. You gotta help :D
Possibly Allen. You should always shake (or stir) resin before use because it separates. If the colour is streaked, it needs a mix and yes, it could cause printing problems. Splitting could also be down to poor supports or the normal layer height timing may need increasing a little 😁
So to be fair...that's not how screen measurements work. They're taken diagonally, and whether the interface uses the whole screen or not is irrelevant to that.
Don't get me wrong, you said it yourself, kinda.....for a extra cost will get the bigger, better printer witch is more complete. Having almost all of they're machines, I can tell you that the only one printer that does the job really good and the price is relatively ok , is elegoo mars 3 , despite the build quality.
I agree with Gigi Frana. You said it yourself. Its price tag - why would I spend that much when I can buy a Phrozen Sonic Mega 8K and produce better prints? The thing is. Doesn't matter how many features it has, what I care about is print quality. Elegoo missed the mark here.
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If the screen is 5" diagonally, then it's correct. Since most screens are measured diagonally. Like televisions and computer monitors. Great review, as always!
I only pay half my rent now as I can afford to live inside my Elegoo Jupiter home 😂
It's almost big enough 😁
Great video and detailed look at the Jupiter! Have a big print running on mine right now
Great to hear from you Jessy! Keep on being awesome! 😁😁😁
You have a prototype version of the printer, I received it last week and there is a Ethernet port and 180° hinge for the door. Leveling screw design were also upgraded. That is a very good printer for that price.
Very possibly. RUclipsrs tend to get prototypes, and in fairness due to ill health I haven't been able to review this printer as early as I could have. But it's good to hear Elegoo are being proactive.
Good to hear it has a Ethernet port.
Your video is arguably the only one to mention possible future expansions and modularity. Thats made me reconsider this printer. Great review.
It's just my speculation based on their eagerness to advertise the easy assemble / disassemble qualities of the Jupiter. Then the mention of an upgrade kit to 500mm, which is of course 100mm taller than the Phrozen 8K. Maybe, just maybe, they're quietly working on a screen that will give 35 micron XY printing.
I genuinely hope I'm right in this guess as it would dramatically reduce shipping costs and make upgrading more affordable 😁
Upgradability could be a game changer. A friend has some some very very expensive large format resin printers that became virtually obsolete overnight. It would be amazing if they could be upgraded, they can't, at least not easily, which is a bugger.
This is just my speculation... but if I'm right, as you say, a game changer. Swap and fit parts...
Well...
I do have an original Mars upgraded with a 1080p mono screen. And now they've released a 2k mono screen for it. It's not on par with the latest generation 4K screens, but other than that it turns an obsolete printer into a fully usable one.
Granted, the Mars is probably a MUCH more widespread product than Jupiter will ever be, so it has a higher probability of getting these 3rd party upgrades, but who knows, maybe Jupiter will get a few over time as well :)
@@vogman In a world where the raw material is increasingly difficult to obtain, it seems to me a very successful speculation. I love your analyzes because they are really honest, as well as always coming up with clever ideas for thought.
@@WojciechGolowkow the trend in 3D printers of every kind is aftermarket parts. I think it’s partly the nature of the market, the people who use them are almost always tinkerers and as creality has proven with the Ender line, you can sell cheap trash, allow others to fix it for you with an open source platform, and sell a shit ton of them. Of course being modular means there can be advances in component tech and the extension of the life of the model.
Great video and product. To be fair, I believe they are measuring the screen corner to corner diagonally for the 5" claim.
Yes, all screen specs are diagonal unless otherwise specified.
Well I tried that too but the maths didn't work. Screens are normally measured diagonally, I agree. 😁
Sir, another great review. I really like how you contextually explain everything. The comparison of the build plates was very interesting. I think it would be awesome if you did a comparison video of the "big boys" . All of the large formats resin printers you have , that is if you still have the 8k mega and at least the Jupiter, and print the largest most detailed figure you can. Then compare the size and visible differences..
Since most people would not be able to justify a complete upgrade from their existing resin printer when something newer comes out, I think modular upgrades are a huge win if they actually make them available!
You could probably mill a 10mm x 3mm cylindrical hole in the side of the resin tray and mount a stirring paddle there, powered by a magnetic drive outside the tray, permanently mounted to the floor of the printer. Kind of a minature version of the washing station agitators.
It would be great to see some useful add-on 😁
MODULARITY??? I wasn't even aware of those possibilities! Snagging one from Kickstarter may have been an even better idea than I thought. Thanks for another great review!
That auto feeder is delightfully simple! These giant printers are getting more and more tempting.
Awesome video, I had a mediocre week with my anycubic photon mono x 6k, had to get service involved, they did send me the ultra secret new firmware 023 to stop my layers randomly shifting for some centimeters.
Doesn't the printer moving up and down keep the resin mixed enough? If not could the left and drop height and speed be changed to do this?
Still waiting for mine to arrive... Was on the first wave early backers too. Glad its working so well for peeps! Anyone tried to add a flex plate yet? Ive NEVER had parts come off my plate as easily as this video lol
pop that shit in the freezer for a minute & even a solid block pops right off.
Great review! Jupiter looks great! We cant wait to test it alongside one of those air purifiers.
I have got to agree with you, your garage is really cool!
Trust me, my garage is a mess 🤣😂😁
You might be on to something with the upgradability. Honestly that would be great. I thought they overbuilt the Jupiter a bit especially compared to the Photon M3 Max. But it makes sense if they are going to continue to release additional add-ons and customization options.
The "Ray Gresin" looks great hehehe. Nice video. Always enjoy watching
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, but I can't wait
thanks for the review :D i will get my kickstarter Jupiter Package in June :D
Cool. If they really go the way of being upgradable this might be the best printer ever
😂you are being too honest on these products reviews. I like it
Can't wait for my Jupiter to arrive! Unfortunately this time round I wasn't able to get super early bird, but instead got the second round. Maybe they start shipping out mid-late April for it to reach us in the UK in May?
THAT is an auto-fill feature i can get behind👍
As for "auto stir" i had an idea a while ago that i wanted to patent (take note dont steal) Where the printer has a tank somewhere and has a pump that continuesly recirculate the resin for the whole print duration and probably integrate a resin heater directly into the loop
Screens are measured on the diagonal, not across. So that is a 5" touch screen.
Modularity and the ability to upgrade is the way forward.
If they release a higher resolution screen, 8K or higher, this would become more attractive.
Also not loving the plate mounting system.
Do love the simplicity of the auto-fill system though, just a bottle cap, which would be cheap to replace and far less likely to fail or clog than the AnyCubic system.
Thanks for sharing 👍 No matter how much my children scream, I'm not going that big but it's cool technology 😎.
Just a heads up. You measure screen size on the diagonal. Corner to corner. So 5 is about right.
Best to wait for the Jupiter S.
That seems to be a great Printer there Mr VOG 👍 but if they can get it up to the 500mm print height then that will be the printer for New Made-in-Wales. I hope your fully recovered and back to your normal self 👍
Having an issue maybe you could help with. I just got my Jupiter and when leveling front left corner is tight but others are loose. All my print attempts fail. I have not been able to print one test print yet. I think some layers print then it sticks to FEP. Any advice?
Screens, TVs, monitors, etc are measured on a diagonal.
I agree, but the measurement still didn't bear out.. unless I was going mad(der) 😜🤪😜😁😁😁
someone else has probably mentioned this, but screen size is measured on the diagonal
Yes buddy, but as I said to them, I tried that measurement first 😁
How do you use the heater from peopoly in your printer? Do you bring the cord outside of the printer through the door?
I have to leave the door open a crack, but I run tape down it to stop it from opening 😁
Bonjour, j'aime vraiment Hello, I have a lot of amiration on your way of presenting the articles. I have a question because I may be taking the step for a resin 3d printer. do you think Jupiter could benefit from time evolution or do you think Elegoo has a change of heart? a lot of sales at the moment and I would like your opinion on 4 machines if you obviously agree. You place them in your order of preference: Elegoo Saturn, Anycubic M3 Max, the Peopoly forge and the GK 2 (smaller but innovative I find).
I don't make miniatures and I make busts or figurines of +- 20 cms in general.
Thanks for your feedback.
Good review, as usual. I have to say though, much like my wife did on our wedding night - I thought it would be bigger.
Much like my wife said, "There must be a way to upgrade this." 😁😁😁👍👍👍
Where did you get this in the UK most places won't ship here?
I've no idea to be honest. Elegoo usually distribute through Amazon, so give it a few weeks and see. Right now it's still in pre-order.
People forget this.. the bigger the screen the less and less high K matters. Go big and loose detail, it's that simple
If the xy resolution isn't increased in proportion with the size increase, then yes, you're right.
@@vogman Very hard to keep XP resolution scaling with screen size. Even now prototype Anycubic Photon has a higher XY resolution than my Mono X 4k.
I think the K factor resolution race is something of a lite con for those not in the know. People see a number and are wowed by it rather than doing the math.
And it's great to see you mention that Pixel count does not necessarily mean higher resolution, many other print you tubers have glossed over it.
That heater simply should be standard item on resin printers.
It would be helpful 😁
More expensive units do. My Form 2 is heated, auto dispenses, and auto stirs. But all that comes at a price. But it is a good sign that lower cost units are starting to bring in auto dispense. In time the other features will be there as well. In fact print quality is pretty much getting there. So the bigger boys are going to have to step up their game to keep those higher prices.
Would you recommend the Mighty 8K or the Jupiter? Price isn't the issue I just want the best of the best to print my own 3D models tbh.
Can you maybe help me with a problem I got with that mashine?
The sculptures always keep glueing on the fep film but not on the top ...
My wife is Wirkung with it and some of our first prints worked
But now it just won't work 😟
No problem Boris. Everyone goes through this the first time. Firstly, take out your resin, filter it, then clean your vat and plate properly. This is important as when you have misprints, small pieces can come loose in the resin and these might puncture the FEP.
After that, make sure the plate is levelled properly. This is probably the biggest cause of misprints, so get this bit right.
After that, you need to make sure the settings are right on your resin (the second biggest cause of misprints). Have a look at this video ruclips.net/video/jOjB3Fr-0no/видео.html
Please don't worry. Everyone goes through this at the start. Once you've got the resin settings right, it will become nice and easy for you 😁
I'm concerned about that auto fill cap on the resin bottle........there would be that one time when you undo the bottle and the cap stays behind.
Building printers with upgradeability in mind isn't exactly a new concept. EPAX has been doing it for years. The X10 has had three screen upgrades since it originally came out, and an upgrade to the UV source. They really support their products for the long term.
Please make a comparission between the elegoo jupiter and anycubic max when you have a chance 🙈
Which one is better in your opinion? The Anycubic Photon M3 Max or this one?
surely a heated air filter would be the best upgrade route if the port was higher current rated.
The holy grail 😁😁😁
Great review. Personally I hope they do the opposite and allow a shorter Z-axis upgrade. I sell miniatures so I prefer X and Y expansion over Z height. So for me, there's a lot of wasted Z-axis space.
Why would you want that? If you're only going to print smaller things, there's no point in making the rails any smaller? I don't understand why you mean by wasted z-axis space, it's not like it makes your print any slower or worse.
This printer can print faster than sonic mega 8k? And related to the saturn what printer is faster?
You mention Stirring every 4 hours, Why? Do you not find that the motion of the build plate is enough to keep the resin moving and mixed?
I received mine several weeks ago, but I don’t understand, leveling is different for me and resin tank is different.
Looking forward to your M3 Max review, don't suppose you can put them next to eachother? I ended up cancelling my Jupiter and I've just bought a Max - hopefully I haven't made a dreadful mistake.
Hopefully that will be my next review 😁
This!! I am trying to decide which to buy right now! I will hold off for your comparison VOG. I like the extra size and resolution of the max, and better price, but I like the modularity and simple auto resin fill of the Jupiter. You gotta help :D
First company to but all these wishlist features at 09:30, AND make it laser/DLP instead of LCD, and humans jump to Type 1 Civ.
What is this separation you speak of? Is that why some of my prints have a weird split in them?
Possibly Allen. You should always shake (or stir) resin before use because it separates. If the colour is streaked, it needs a mix and yes, it could cause printing problems.
Splitting could also be down to poor supports or the normal layer height timing may need increasing a little 😁
@@vogman thanks for taking the time and replying !
Do you get to keep all of the printers you get?
Can someone explain me what is that of microns? 20 is better than 40 ir it's the oppositive. Thanks:)
This video should answer that for you ruclips.net/video/vIi6N9EXexc/видео.html 😁
what ever happened to that heater from elegoo :(
Regarding that USB socket, for a 1300USD device and they cheap out by not using a 20 cent dedicated USB charger chip shows a lack of fore thought.
So to be fair...that's not how screen measurements work. They're taken diagonally, and whether the interface uses the whole screen or not is irrelevant to that.
A huge machine with no features and a "heavy" price 🤣
No thanks
Next
I don't think it's fair to say "no features." It's got a lot going for it.
Don't get me wrong, you said it yourself, kinda.....for a extra cost will get the bigger, better printer witch is more complete.
Having almost all of they're machines, I can tell you that the only one printer that does the job really good and the price is relatively ok , is elegoo mars 3 , despite the build quality.
I agree with Gigi Frana. You said it yourself. Its price tag - why would I spend that much when I can buy a Phrozen Sonic Mega 8K and produce better prints? The thing is. Doesn't matter how many features it has, what I care about is print quality. Elegoo missed the mark here.