What to do if one of the engines fail right after V1? Simulation in A320 Full Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2016
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Another Friday brings you yet another Airbus A320 Type Rating training lesson demonstration! Vilmantas, instructor at BAA Training, will demonstrate how to control aircraft properly after engine‘s failure after V1.
V1 is a typical speed that is used for takeoff in an airplane. It's called the takeoff decision speed because pilots decide to either abort or continue a takeoff at this speed. And remember, these videos are just for the information and visualization purposes and should never be used for training.
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"do not use for training"
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BAA record people train but not letting material for training purpose because it requires a real tutor
I miss you Pranas
the engine did not fail at V1 !!!! it's an engine fire this is very different situation as you don't lose the engine until you shut it down in the air; as in an engine fail you lose thrust on one engine and you have to immediately correct it with the rudder pedals or you will end up outside the runway
Good cause I was wondering wth a engine fire have to do with a failure.
Yes you are right. But at the same time if the fire is caused by an explosion it means you won't have thrust anymore. If the pilot takes off immediately after V1 then there won't be the risk of going out of runway. That said he would still need to apply rudder in the air to correct the imbalance. Correct me if i'm wrong
Yes that's correct but you can see he still has power until he shuts the engine long time after v1
In the right under corner it says: Dont use it for training purposes.
Jose Andres Rivera true, the burning engine would be still giving thrust, but wouldn’t the fire eat up the engine and later the plane itself?
Awesome video. Loved it, great to see experienced pilots invited to do demonstrations :)
It looked a bit akward without an copilot...Just Sayin
your English looks akward
Well luckly im not a englishman myself. Its verry nice to have people like you on the internet.
Amazing pilot Captn Vilmantas, and a pleasure to fly with him 2:34
Very cool video! Thank you for showing the procedures!
thanks, i like all your tutorials videos..My congratulation
What about approach C/L , QRH for straight in LDG with engine inoperative. Overall nice one
Nice video
and what about thrust reverse activated during take off ?
very clear, very professional. Nice video!
Any problem with the auto brakes?
reconosco el esfuerzo en realizar videos, pero este no es una falla de motor en v1, ya que en un fuego recien se pierde el motor al momento de apagarlo ademas siempre recordar las golden rules , primero vuela , luego navega y despues comunica , finalmente luego de ello realizar las acciones del ecam .
After watching this video I actually found some videos of them landing an A320 in a crosswind. They do it using the rudder pedals and something called a sidestick which I didn't realize they had. Modern planes are becoming VERY sophisticated. Basically a flying computer just like modern cars are becoming rolling computers. Can't say I'm a fan.
rex69832 good thing the 320 was designed in the 70’s She has aged well for a modern aircraft hehehe
love it
Great recovery.
cabin briefing?
1:56 Why the guy was able to contact to the ATC without using a headset? Where is the microphone? :P
Should you use reversers? saw trim going crazy there also I know of at least one flight which had engine failure and ran off runway cause of reversers pulling to one side.
The airbus auto trims.
In order "Gear down" are we setting MIN or MED AUTO brake?
Depends on the rwy length
What are the black and white wheels on either side of the thrust levers?
elevator trim
awesome
when there is one engine failure , should the pilot not use full flaps because of lift dissemetry ?
I read somewhere that it's not always desirable, if you have to suddenly go to full power again (for example, a go around), the extra drag from full flaps can be a detriment to single engine operations.
mezsh ok , thank you ☺
Accent. Heavy!
It's the "Bond bad guy accent". Works every time.
lol
Never mind landing with one engine.
This pilot is that cool he could take off with no engines 😂🤣😃😄
just wondering, is all the talking he does also going to ATC or is it mainly for a co-pilot and cockpit voice recorder?
What the captain talks in this video of a simulated (remember) flight are the actions that the pilots would apply in the several phases of this flight. Sometimes he is just telling the video viewer what he is doing. In other talks he is following the check lists that the pilots would share in loud voice. At other times he simulates communications with the air traffic control. Everything said in loud voice is recorded in the cockpit voice recorder but the air traffic controllers will only hear what the pilots say when they press their radio transmitting button. (Pilots watching this video will easily recognize what it's all about).
What to do during dual engine failure after takeoff? I'm just curious after watching the movie trailer of US Airways 1549 "Sully"
Dual Engine failure? From what I know all you can do there is pray that you'll survive the impact.
there's not really many possibilities there. commercial airplanes usually do not have the best gliding properties.
Sully had enough height to think and select somewhere to land, if he had lost both engines just after lift off then he would crash.
It's very rare and I don't think has ever happened at V1 before. If it did happen at V1 many pilots have stated they would try to abort the takeoff as especially with long runways it is possible. If you are able to get above 2500 before dual engine failure then it is possible to make a return to the airport if you begin turning immediately after the failure.
@@B767-3. No Casualties actually
What does he mean when he states, "reset stab trim" right before the touchdown?
He says "reset rudder trim" because with an engine failure on a twin the rudder forces needed will be large and for an extended period of time so the rudder trim is used. When coming in to land the rudder trim should be reset to maintain control on the ground etc.
Why not set autobrake to medium as per LDG ECAM actions?
there's no ECAM action (or status) that requires autobrake medium, it's at pilot's discretion. Same as with flap 3 or full
tank you
He almost needs the whole rudder to compensate the unilateral thrust. Seems to be quite difficult to make fast rolling maneuvers and tight turns to the right now.
That would make sence as all thrust is coming from under one wing
gonatrollya
Certainly, I'm asking if it is better to take the opposite aerodrome circuit, if the wrong engine fails? But don't know if this is common or forbidden. I never had the chance to she a rudder in such an incident. There seems to be not so much articulation left.
Can anybody tell me why he switched the Engine Mode Selector to Ignition?
To reduce the risk of engine flame out on the second engine,
My car engine failed this morning. Emergency procedure: Open the door. Exit the vehicle. Leave. And they say flying is even safer than driving?
Very professional as expected but why was full flaps used for landing? Is it not normally a conf 3 landing with an engine out? Or does this vary according to airline?
maybe in this sim configuration he was very light?
Nell E If he was light he could have used less flaps, and if heavy he would have just came in at a higher speed to compensate.
With the fuel load he would be heavy.
Wouldn't putting one engine into reverse cause a ground loop?
No
did he just say ( IN CASE OF GO AROUND ) At 5:46 ? Flying with only one engine ATC must to hate you BAA lmao , great vid !
Well Captain Sully, if the engines fail then grab some blankets and *DITCH* *DITCH* in the Hudson
This video only show 1 engine fail
it is "if one of the engines *fails*", also it didn't fail, it did catch on fire.
Furthermore, are immediate engire fire operations not supposed to be memory items?
Fire means failure. It either burns or gets extinguished and inoperable
a fire is a fire a failure is a failure, 2 completely different things, he never loses directional control on v1 and after, because the engine is still giving thrust up to its shut down, on an engine failure you lose directional control and that's another story to tell
Is the affected engine going to be providing thrust?
No.
Fine. Failure.
What do you guys use as your main flight simulator for the full flight simulator?
What happened to the old style videos?
flew away with Pranas
"the old style" - do you mean amateur videos???
It amazes me how much that cockpit looks like an ATR-72 cockpit. Does anyone know if the A320 cockpit was modeled after the ATR-72 cockpit? The only differences I can see is the joystick control (on an ATR-72 it's a yoke) and the aileron trims are on the sides instead of in the center.
They look nothing alike
I must have something mixed up.
Yes, was after. And ATR Airbus is on EADS consortium, probably sames departement of "Aerospatiale" designers ;)
Thanks for that.
Why is "priority left" showing up at 11:37?
it's not the priority light, it's the autoland fail light, and it shouldn't lite up either. Guess it's simulator flaw
+JackPoint Hi, know I'm a bit late, but it's my understanding the pilot engaged both the AP1 and AP2 systems,which I believe puts the aircraft in it's autoland phase. Being this was an emergency landing, I presume he disengaged it to reduce the risk of error upon touchdown, maybe due to the uneven thrust being produced.
Again, not completely positive...
+Gregory Caesar (BOEINGFSXSIMMER) hi Gregory! You are partially right. Although the A320 can fully perform an autoland with just one engine, the light coming on means the plane itself is warning you that autoland is not possible due to a malfunction. The light is never meant to come on with the aoutopilot disconnected, so looks like an error of the sim to me
JackPoint Totally forgot about that part...greatly appreciate your insight!
What about dumping fuel?
Apparently he had 6 tonnes so he was not overweight. He said so at one point.
No fuel dump?
A320 doesn't have the capability (neither does the B737).
So, what do they communicate to the passengers? If you tell them it right away, i can imagine it can cause drama in the cabin? Though if you land again in 10 minutes, you'll have to explain something as well. And if you said nothing in the beginning, i can imagine angry passengers. Ah well, some will be angry anyway i guess :-) Got to be a tensing moment for the cabin crew.
LOL, what is this …….??? , this is not a single pilot operation aircraft , unless you want to show off the RUclips audience that you are a Superman
What to do if all engines fails after V1 would be much more interesting.
Well. Then it's time to pray and hope that the crash won't kill you....
engine reverse on landing with 1 failed engine is a great way to mow the lawn
No it's not... Reverse thrust on a single engine is used very often even with two operating engines.
Good thing its a jet in this case :)
Okay now I know how to do this...okay good.
I'd start with having my headset on to communicate with atc as a priority..?!
Ideally you would do that if you had a pilot monitoring. Also you probably would do that first in real life anyways. For the simulation that obviuosly isn't as important.
I trained on this
Well dine
Weres the Copilot
Did he set autobreak?
no
yes
oh for the landing. No he didn't he used manual brakes
wow
A320 is a 2 Pilot Aircraft, why do video with single pilot ? or is too show how to deal with two emergencies at same time ! Incapacitation and Eng Fire !! :-)) If so Very nice perfomance !!
but befor Vmcg.
What we have to do if all engines will fail after v1 ?!
After V1 you would abort the takeoff if all engines failed.
Ditch on hudson
before rotation but after v1
Look at how calm and comfortable he's sitting after the engine failure lol, wait till this happens to him real life and see how much he'll sweat.
Pilots are very calm people. CVR recording normally show them being calm right up until the end.
@@cjmillsnun true, but the man in the video is way too comfortable
reversers? isn't it suppossed that there was an engine failure?
There is something that I don't understand about this video. PIC experiences ENG1 fire right on Vr then makes a "mayday" call? As the PIC still has a healthy ENG2, why didn't he make a PAN call instead? There was clearly no imminent danger. This would have misled ATC into thinking lives were about to be lost and potentially used up more resources than necessary.
He has an engine fire, at the time he did not know whether it would extinguish, meaning it just becomes an engine failure scenario or not.
What to do if one of the engines fail right after V1? Ermm...shit my pants and find Jesus?
Pranas come back
Pranas became a BAA RUclips celebrity. He is more fun to watch flying planes that eat yummy birds at dangerous parts of takeoffs and landings.
Single engine demo of an engine fire situation are you for real ?
I like to see this when Turbulence is present
Landing config with 1/all eng fail is flaps 3
Not necessarily.
Is there no steering????
Airbus uses sidestick instead of yoke.
The99Gero
Like a joystick or what?
+Mike H (From Bottom to Top) Yes, basically a joystick. It looks like this: i.ytimg.com/vi/SKNJ-ABAPuY/maxresdefault.jpg
The99Gero
Oh cool..Like a oldscool gamepad ;)
thx dude
i saw video that shows it is on the left side close to the knee of the pilot, i guess we cannot see on this video
Dear pilot officer ..!! ANYONE CAN APROACH TO THE SIMULATOR FLIGHTS...???
If both engines fail, it's goodnight😶
What´s V1?
It's the "go" speed. If the pilots get any technical problems at or above this speed, they continue the takeoff (assuming the wings haven't fallen off or something drastic like that). Even if there's an engine failure at V1, they continue. These aircraft can still takeoff and fly on one engine.
+ImperrfectStranger thanks :)
"uses for training uses"
Click re-set.
Very weird and un accurate. Anyhow if you are looking for fun watch it. If you are about to make an A320 initial, don't.
Want to see fun watch the one gliding A320 from 10k ft.
"Un accurate"?
It's not possible to use the reverse while engine is off
Why not?
1- The inverter reverse thrust developed by the engine to brake. So if no thrust there is no reverse.
2- it is obligatory to use the inverter of both engine simultaneously (the case of a twin-engine plane (A320)) to have a symmetrical braking and avoid drift and runway exit. So in the case of one engine failure the pilot uses only the spoilers and the wheel breaks.
zaffati khalil What if they just used idle reverse?
idle reverse for the running engine?
zaffati khalil yes
A child of the magenta… FLY THE PLANE, NOT THE DAMNED COMPUTER!
This plane is basically a computer. The easiest way to get into trouble flying the airbus is to try and fly the airbus.
They simulate this emergency all the time in the our simulators. You maintain flying the aircraft, like a normal takeoff, only you must add more power in the remaining functioning engine and trim the aircraft so it won't yaw so much . Then make your emergency call to notify the ground of your emergency and of your plans for an immediate landing. They also go through their engine loss procedures in their QRF (quick reference handbook) to secure and set up the cockpit for this emergency condition.
You’re not a pilot, are you. It’s pretty obvious.
Imagine a solo pilot doing this in a boeing
Press fire extinguisher for 3 seconds
No need. Just a firm press.
02:02 sorry but why not just "pan pan pan" ?
Not the kind of guy I would like to deal with during a TR course.. no offense obviously
Disarm the spoilers pls Cpt
Flaps 0
Disarm
BAA training
Do not use for training purposes
😂😂😂😂
Your English is fine Captain, don't listen to the comments of the Bozos.
Why is he flying alone?🤔
well its a simple question, if the length of your runway is available, canceled it, put auto breaks max, spoiler on, reverse your engine, most pilot try to fly the plane, its very dangerous for them
Nonsense. If you’re above V1, continue.
I Learned This, You Shouldn't Turn The Direction Left If Your #1 Engine Has Failed, You Should Always Turn The Direction Of The Working Engine, In Which This Case It Would Be Engine #2, Because The Left Wing Is Producing Less Lift Without The Engine Running.
Not so in jets.
basically you don't need a copilot lol!
I don't want to be your student :)
Is he even a licensed pilot???
Of course bro
F.O. Inhibit. LOL
LOLLOLLOLLOL HE DIED HER
I hope they revoke this crazy "commander" licence for life taking off without a copilote not even wearing its headset and landing whithout atc clerance is criminale
ITS FUCKING SIMULATOR WHAT DO YOU EXPECT
Yes it's a flight simulator not a video game, flight simulator are made to train pilots to perform possibly dangerous manouvers as if they were in a real plane its just safer (they wont kill anyone) and cheaper, taking off with a single engine failure is part of the plane certification, in an emergency copkpit management is very important as well as weather (crosswind capability are much lower with a single engine) most pilots in this situation would request a holding patern to perform there single engine landing checklist and possibly request an alternate airport landing airport if the crossind exceed the limits.
John Kubik He's saying what hes supposed to to the ATC without a headset. WTF do you expect? Some kind of AI in the simulator? Or communication to an actual tower?
For what I understand, if you can control the plane you don't have to declare the emergency (May Day).
Wow, must remember never to get on to a Small planet aircraft....
Stopped watching after the auto pilot engagement, with absolutely no use of rudder, or trimming....
Top tip, if anyone is watching this to learn how to execute an EFATO, this how NOT to do it...
I'm sorry guys. But to me this is scary as heck. Where is the control by the pilot? Where is the flight yoke? All this guy is doing is pushing buttons. The computer is really flying the plane. God help us if the computer fries. He may as well be playing a video game. How do you land this thing in a crosswind?
Wut
I don't understand your reply, Daniel. I think I "voiced" some valid concerns. If anyone knows more about the A320 what kind of backup systems do they have in case of a catastrophic failure and how MANY backup systems. Would love to hear from an engineer that actually knew what he was talking about.
The Airbus 320 (and later airbus models) has joysticks instead of yokes. The captain has his joystick at his left and moves it with his left hand. The first officer has his joystick at his right. With the joysticks you can move the ailerons (for banking and turning) and the elevator (for pitching). You can see these joysticks at 00:44 Like all other aircraft, the A320 also has pedals to control the rudder (and to apply "manual" braking when on the ground). You can disconnect the autopilot and the autothrottle and fly the A320 manually (with your joystick, pedals and throttle levers). The A320 also has analogic indicators of the essential flight parameters (speed, altitude, attitude, navigation & heading,...) to inform the pilots in the (rare) case in which the digital displays or the computers fail. You can see these at 3:51 in the left size of the video screen.
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to myself and everyone else reading this page, Carlos. After doing a little more research I found out that the A320 family of planes is what you call "fly-by-wire". In other words no physical connection between the cockpit and the control surfaces. From what I've read the pilot places inputs into the FLIGHT CONTROL COMPUTER which interprets these actions and moves the flight control surfaces accordingly. So basically with the pilot's help there is a bloody computer flying the plane. Before this FBW had only been used on military aircraft and the A320 family of planes are the first commercial planes to use said joystick/sidestick. And it was Bernard Ziegler who successfully convinced aviation authorities of the concept's validity. FBW seems to be a concept that works in spite of the 91 aviation accidents and incidents, including 35 hull-loss incidents with 1,392 fatalities. Fifty incidents of glass cockpit blackout. But apparently still one of the lowest fatality rates of any family of jets. Apparently. But call me paranoid or cynical or old-fashioned but I would rather still be flying in a plane where the pilot had DIRECT control of the aircraft and the safe operation of the plane depended on the pilot's skill and experience. NO computer is 100% reliable but the biological computer between our ears is exponentially better and faster than anything we can manufacture.
It's "sidestick". Not joystick.
I didn't know engine failure meant maintaining full thrust and power. This video simply shows you how to fly the computer off a memory list, not what to do in an emergency.
Being a Scarebus, maybe they should've thrown Blue Screen of Death, failed AoA indicator, trim runaway of uncommanded rapid autopilot descent. You know, everything that's caused Airbuses to fall out of the sky in the past, yet remain unresloved.....
What a stupid comment.
I hope this guy is not actually flying passengers around, he does not speak very clear English at all.
You need to check your ears, moron.
love it