Cloning | SciShow Tangents Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @SciShowTangents
    @SciShowTangents  7 месяцев назад +6

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    • @apertureonline9566
      @apertureonline9566 7 месяцев назад +2

      My cards aren't accepted on rocket money

    • @JeskaDax
      @JeskaDax 7 месяцев назад

      I'm a genetic chimera... I've often wondered if that would still allow accurate cloning/teleporting of me or if it would do something else entirely. Like... If a clone was made from just the DNA sample collected from inside the cheek of my mouth, then that wouldn't actually be me because it would be missing half of who I am.
      Even if they had samples of both sets of my DNA, then how would they make sure which set of was expressed in which part of my body correctly? In Star Trek, they used "pattern buffers" which would likely do that, but short of that... I am left with so many questions!
      I'mma ask this in the patreon chat...

  • @disky01
    @disky01 7 месяцев назад +56

    SAM! The clone poem was brilliant.

    • @KristopherBel
      @KristopherBel 7 месяцев назад +5

      Sam has genuinely become one of my favorite modern poets.

  • @Bluesmudge
    @Bluesmudge 7 месяцев назад +24

    "I survived something that is rarely deadly." My new tagline.

    • @arc4705
      @arc4705 7 месяцев назад +4

      tummy aches 😔

  • @chillsahoy2640
    @chillsahoy2640 5 месяцев назад +6

    Every episode, Hank opens with a preamble that's supposed to ease everyone into the topic but somehow the preamble ends up turning into its own wild and interesting tangent more often than not. I can practically see Sam thinking "This stays, this goes, this definitely goes." while he's recording, already thinking about which parts he's going to have to edit out.

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk 7 месяцев назад +26

    Sam's fact about the electric ants blows my mind. Nature is so weird and amazing.

  • @annasfischer
    @annasfischer 7 месяцев назад +34

    I rescue dogs and my family has adopted many dogs with really serious trauma issues, and there is always a part of me that kind of wishes I could have them from the start from when they were babies and raise them so that they didn't have those trauma issues, so I could see what they might have been like if they had never been hurt that way, who they might have been if weren't carrying around that fear. And sometimes the idea of cloning one of these guys is actually a little tempting. The fact that they would not be the exact same dog is the point.
    But in the end there are so many dogs that need homes and rather than doing the what if thing, I can take care of these dogs right now that have been hurt, and make sure they aren't hurt again.

  • @Cocoanutty0
    @Cocoanutty0 7 месяцев назад +11

    As a non scientist audience, Sam’s fact is absolutely amazing to me

  • @lizziewahl
    @lizziewahl 7 месяцев назад +31

    So… it didn’t immediately occur to me that clone Sam was the magic of editing. I thought it was like those prank Zoom backgrounds and was very impressed with Sam’s timing 😂

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 7 месяцев назад +3

      ...I wish I would have read your comment before I posted my own comment asking how long Sam had to practice the timing 😅 Shit, now I feel dumb. I forget sometimes that this podcast isn't an unedited one-take 😂

    • @shadebug
      @shadebug 7 месяцев назад

      @@IceMetalPunkit’s not impossible but there would need to be a moment that we don’t see where they step out of frame so they can switch.
      That or prestige it

    • @cctrollz5706
      @cctrollz5706 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@shadebugI'm pretty sure they can just use the jump cut to hank to hide the transition from clone sam to real Sam

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk 7 месяцев назад +8

    How long did Sam have to practice the clone poem to get the timing down? 😂 Beautifully done, Number One Guest!

  • @BIGWUNuvDbunch
    @BIGWUNuvDbunch 7 месяцев назад +4

    Absolutely pogged out of my gourd for this episode. Y'all are rad as hell

  • @eclecticaaronbentley
    @eclecticaaronbentley 6 месяцев назад +7

    No reason to think "what have I done" after a transport. The you who died is the one who chose it, and they have a right to that choice. The you who remains didn't even exist when the choice was made.

  • @wyattlewis4069
    @wyattlewis4069 7 месяцев назад +5

    Hank, as an audience member, that was among the most incredible revelations I've heard in a tangents fact off. 37:04

  • @andrewwood1364
    @andrewwood1364 7 месяцев назад +11

    As a member of the audience, Hank was wrong. Sam's fact blew my mind.

    • @coconuthalf
      @coconuthalf 7 месяцев назад +3

      I came to the comments to say the same! 🤯 I found it so interesting that I paused the episode to share with my friends. Good one, Sam!

    • @osmia
      @osmia 7 месяцев назад +1

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    • @osmia
      @osmia 7 месяцев назад +1

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  • @mayaenglish5424
    @mayaenglish5424 7 месяцев назад +2

    54:29 Another fine addition to the Hank Lore compendium!

  • @MoPaTography
    @MoPaTography 7 месяцев назад +7

    Regarding the teleportation question at the start! One key issue i have is that, the version of you are now ceases to exist once you are teleported, someone else, who has the same consciousness as you carries on your life, but the you as you are now will essentially die. To an outside observer, it doesn't make any difference, you are exactly the same. But to the internal observer, i e you as you exist now, will be killed. You won't get go see Hawaii....

    • @ajs1998
      @ajs1998 7 месяцев назад

      I go the other way with this question. What's the difference between teleporting like this and just falling asleep? Either way my consciousness is destroyed then recreated, I wouldn't feel like a different person and nobody else could tell either. Only difference being sleep transports you through time and teleportation transports you through space.
      Edit: Wow lol I wrote this out before listening to Hank's answer and he just said basically the same thing lol

    • @davidbetancourt4028
      @davidbetancourt4028 3 месяца назад

      _"Would you be okay if we copied you, where the copy is on Mars, but then tomorrow, we would have to kill you?"_ I don't fully understand why people don't get that essentially this is what's being proposed. I'm not cool with dying, so no thanks to murder devices.
      Also, I thought the individual atoms in Star Trek were being transported, so it essentially "IS" the same person as before, just reconstructed.

    • @davidbetancourt4028
      @davidbetancourt4028 3 месяца назад

      I want to reject that they understand this, because I just can't conceptualize that their framework for their identity and consciousness would make it so they would be fine with dying.

  • @ExoticTerrain
    @ExoticTerrain 7 месяцев назад +4

    Love cloning plants! I’m giving lavender plants out this year that I cloned last year and I’m rooting rose clones to give away next year! As many plants as you want from one plant!

  • @disky01
    @disky01 7 месяцев назад +10

    Wish I could have been in the chat for this one. I'm of the mind that Star Trek transporters are murder machines. Transporters: Not Even Once.

    • @CorbiniteVids
      @CorbiniteVids 6 месяцев назад

      Yup. If it caused no pain I'd be apprehensive, but if the destroyed original felt any pain even if it wasn't remembered it'd be a hard no from me. I'm of the belief that suffering always matters even if no one is left to remember it

    • @disky01
      @disky01 6 месяцев назад

      @@CorbiniteVids The idea that I can't get past is the consciousness transfer. If the machine is ripping the original body apart and reassembling it atom by atom, then it's doing the same thing for the consciousness. So it's killing that person and whatever consciousness the transporter buffers manage to store is simply a copy/paste. You die, and the person that is reassembled from the atoms that were you is a different person entirely, which just happens to have your memories and personality. I can't understand why anyone would be okay with this. They're just willfully ending their lives only to allow some new asshole to walk around in their skin.

    • @MrShadowswrath
      @MrShadowswrath 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@disky01 i completely agree with you, i find it wild that so many people would be happy to die just so that a copy of themself could be instantly in hawaii. why would i care if a clone of me gets to go on vacation, but i myself don't get to?

    • @chimericOdium308
      @chimericOdium308 6 месяцев назад

      @@disky01 what are you aside from your memories and personality?

    • @disky01
      @disky01 6 месяцев назад

      @@chimericOdium308 Exactly? I can't tell if you're disagreeing with me or not. If your body is ripped apart and your atoms are reassembled at another location, all of you dies in that instant and a new version of you is reborn. Sure, that new you may have the same memories and personality but you still died. Just because everyone perceives that new you as the old you, and it also perceives itself as the old you, doesn't mean the old you is that new person.
      I don't get why anyone sees it any other way. You are pulled apart at an atomic level and reassembled. If that moment doesn't sound like death then I don't know what does.

  • @emmalineedie4938
    @emmalineedie4938 7 месяцев назад +3

    Glad i decided to watch this on youtube rather than just listening.
    I'll also play it in the background later on spotify for original Sam and his numbers!

  • @StigmataTickles
    @StigmataTickles 7 месяцев назад +10

    I would do just about anything to avoid traffic. It could kill me FIRST and then flash clone me on the other side fully aware of the pain of death and I'd still be like, "beats going 10 miles in 2 hours on i405."

    • @roseannelajara8659
      @roseannelajara8659 7 месяцев назад +3

      At first, I was totally against the idea of teleportation but after my commute this morning, I think I might see your point.

  • @sawace1
    @sawace1 7 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly. That rocket money ad was good.

  • @miriam7872
    @miriam7872 7 месяцев назад +3

    There is nothing like going ready for a run, looking for a podcast to listen to seeing that there is a new tangents episode out! Thank you for being you!

  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 7 месяцев назад +8

    You know, one of my favorite things about SciShow Tangents is that they don't take Betterhelp as a sponsor nowadays. Thanks, Hank and Ceri and Sam and Deboki and Tuna and the large remaining cast of characters, for keeping Complexly with some dignity.

    • @sunnydays9144
      @sunnydays9144 6 месяцев назад +2

      I feel like I've seen that sponsor here before, as well as on Dear Hank and John. But maybe they no longer take them?

    • @thecrazyastrogirl
      @thecrazyastrogirl 6 месяцев назад

      @@sunnydays9144yeah they used to but as of recently, they don’t take them as a sponsor anymore

  • @carollollol
    @carollollol 7 месяцев назад

    How nice of Craig to share his cloning skills!!!

  • @garbageboy8857
    @garbageboy8857 7 месяцев назад +2

    The episode with the two rikers shows that the transportwr doesnt NEED to destroy the first person to work, so presumably it fould just make copies of people infinitely. We also learn in another episode that yhe transporter keeps a log of your dna/physical condition and they use it to cure someone of a disease by referencing their previous transporter logs from before they were infected. Given all of that, it seems like they ought to be able to resurrect anyone who died on an away mission by referencing their previous transporter logs. Probably a law against that.
    Don't even get me started on the Tuvix incident.

  • @ConLustig
    @ConLustig 2 месяца назад

    55:08 I also really thought the manowar was like blue rings and eating puffer fish-as in it’s more likely than not you’re done for.

  • @rox4884
    @rox4884 6 месяцев назад

    I'm not a biochemist, but my daughter is We've talked about lab grown meat. The whole point of growing meat is that it takes a lot less resources. That's because you don't have to grow the bones, or any organs, skin or otherwise, (though now that I think about it, would make leather a whole lot more ethical and cheaper. You could probably grow it on forms.)
    You still have to feed the cells, but you wouldn't have to devote so much land to growing the food or dealing with waste.
    And, I just saw a video where they replaced a lot of the medium used to feed cells with sugary drinks, like Gatorade. I forget the type of cell though.

  • @elainebelzDetroit
    @elainebelzDetroit 7 месяцев назад

    That opening bit about being a new person when you wake up - explains me on Monday mornings. "Wait, I got in my car & came to this job somehow; what is it I do?"

  • @Rufflesandrage
    @Rufflesandrage 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shout Out to Clone Sam for being the only one to consistently pronounce "crayfish" CRAWfish. Thank you from the south

  • @empichel5690
    @empichel5690 6 месяцев назад

    Ceri I like the color of the paint swatch. I look forward to your background changes

  • @injunsun
    @injunsun 7 месяцев назад +1

    Crap, I missed being able to chat live! I wanted to mention a kind of twin Ceri missed, hemi-identical. That is where an egg has split, and each is fertilised by a different sperm.
    Also, my doctor has confirmed, the immune booster in the Covid shots boosts the production of ALL antibodies you make. I tested positive for Hep-C antibodies 8 years after I was cured! But no virus. Also, my warts on my hand went away on their own, the warty patch on my ankle reduced, and for the first time in my life, speaking of athlete's foot fungus, it spontaneously WENT AWAY!!! I used to have to get my doc to give me an antifungal pill, because nothing topical would do. But the Covid antibody boost thingamee cleared it up. I surmised that might also make auto-immune disorders worse, and she confirmed, research has shown that to be the case. So, be on the look-out for some low-level, chronic conditions to "mysteriously" clear up after you get your Covid boosters, as well as watching out for auto-immune flare-ups.
    Then, talking about fire ants, "... so fuck 'em!" LOL THANK YOU! I got to see my dad embarrassed for the first time when he tried to tell me (age 6) and my sister (age 3, covered in fire ants in Warner Robbins, GA, Spring, 1974), "Oh, stop! Ants don't bite! Here! Give me that! (the gum my sister had spat out and wanted back) He got shown. He thought I had hit her or something stupid like that. I was trying to get the ants off her! For a genius IQ, he was so damn dumb!

  • @callmeneutrino7136
    @callmeneutrino7136 7 месяцев назад +3

    It’s cool to this audience, Hank!

    • @osmia
      @osmia 7 месяцев назад +1

      +

  • @maxrbmc
    @maxrbmc 7 месяцев назад +2

    Sam kinda looks like Matt Damon (complimentary)

  • @primarytrainer1
    @primarytrainer1 7 месяцев назад +1

    The opening is like that "think like a dinosaur" story that used to bother me as a kid lol

  • @gordonwerner
    @gordonwerner 7 месяцев назад

    Back in the mid ‘70s I got stung by a part of a Portuguese Man O War in Bermuda … and let me tell you I can still remember that pain some 46 years later!

  • @davesatxify
    @davesatxify 7 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU!

  • @arc4705
    @arc4705 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm gonna start saying "eat that cell!" to mean "you go girl!"

  • @ponyote
    @ponyote 7 месяцев назад

    Great, now there is two of him. :D

  • @chloe.d178
    @chloe.d178 7 месяцев назад

    Just starting this episode and its amazing

  • @hebedite4865
    @hebedite4865 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think reintroducing recently extinct animals, especially species that were hunted on purpose by colonial settlers like Dodo birds, thylacines, and the california brown bear are just the three i think of first as being more than worth it to bring back, seeing as they haven't been gone for very long and any efforts towards rebuilding the broken ecosystems is worthwhile. I think we could focus on conservation and restoration as a species, but governments seem to have other worries unfortunately :/

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk 7 месяцев назад

    Regarding the opening conversation about teleporters... The localization of subjective experience (qualia) is extremely weird and difficult to try to wrap my head around. Like... if I stand in one place for a bit, then I have multiple qualia in the same point in space, but different points in time -- and I consider them all "my experience". If I move around, then I have qualia at different points in space and time -- and I consider them all "my experience". The cloned consciousness thing would basically just be -- if the copied neural structure and activity are identical -- qualia at different points in space *but the same point in time.* So in theory, that should be symmetrically similar to "same point in space, different points in time" -- and so it'd all be "my experience". But trying to understand how two brains separated in space can have the same experience -- not just identical but separate experiences, but *the same instance of an experience* -- at the same time? My current brain cannot compute what that would mean, let alone what it would seem like 😅
    So I'd probably be too afraid to use the teleporter until I figured that out. Because if my subjective perceptions stop when I'm disassembled, then Me v2 will be in the destination without me, and I'd be dead so I wouldn't even know; but Me v2 would fully believe he's me and think nothing's wrong. And that's pretty terrifying and sad.

  • @jessiepapabear4272
    @jessiepapabear4272 7 месяцев назад

    Loved the show as always guys.

  • @mavriksc
    @mavriksc 6 месяцев назад

    If they cloned nuggets would they make all the shapes or just the boot (best shape) or oval ( more efficient).

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 7 месяцев назад +2

    Do you think the people in Star Wars would have picked a more logical name like “the galactic civil war” or the “CIS rebellion” or something if Yoda didn’t say “begun the Clone Wars have”?
    Because I don’t think they would call it that based on the prequel version of the Clone Wars. They would 100% call it the “Galactic Civil War” or “the Galaxy War” or “the Droid War” but Yoda drops that line, almost more for the audience to be like “hey, remember when Obi Wan said he fought alongside Anakin in the Clone Wars? Well this is the Clone Wars.” And I hate it. I hated it as a kid and I think it is even more dumb now. I hate it more than midichlorians and the weird cult Jedi.

  • @Finvaara
    @Finvaara 7 месяцев назад +37

    I sure am looking forward to the point at which y'all have caught up on all your sponsor backlog from the schedule changes and it's back to one sponsor read per episode. This was a great episode, but I do pay money to avoid commercials.

    • @theperfectbotsteve4916
      @theperfectbotsteve4916 7 месяцев назад +4

      oh that's why there's more than one

    • @Cocoanutty0
      @Cocoanutty0 7 месяцев назад

      I’ve been wondering why there’s a deluge of ad reads

    • @froge6652
      @froge6652 7 месяцев назад +9

      u can just skip them

    • @Finvaara
      @Finvaara 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@froge6652 I always worry that skipping them can impact their ability to get sponsors. Its a stat they can track and that data is often useful when seeking sponsors.

    • @S.K.u.S.H
      @S.K.u.S.H 5 месяцев назад

      There’s a red bar at the bottom of the video

  • @Ineffably_Obsessed
    @Ineffably_Obsessed 7 месяцев назад +1

    i ❤️ sam

  • @ZedaZ80
    @ZedaZ80 7 месяцев назад +1

    This may be boring, but in programming we use "cloning" as a term, and it is subtly different concept from "copying" and I have no idea when it originated.

  • @tojohahn8529
    @tojohahn8529 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hank needs to do some research on IVF. Picking twins is already an option!

  • @destroyerheekoo
    @destroyerheekoo 7 месяцев назад +1

    clone Sam was genuinely disturbingly shot

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 7 месяцев назад

      I still am unclear how that happened.
      I’m still not sure Sam doesn’t have a twin
      Edit: I’m now clear, no twin

  • @SpaceCadetAstrodite
    @SpaceCadetAstrodite 21 день назад

    I think the fact is cool, this is all I’m going to think about for a couple days. I am audience. 36:50

  • @kwellerfolds
    @kwellerfolds 7 месяцев назад

    They should be your cohost! U need to bring on more guests! Where is Tom Lum and his crew!?

  • @chillsahoy2640
    @chillsahoy2640 5 месяцев назад

    Ceri says "Monozygotic twins are clones."
    Me, having studied biochemistry: OMG yes that is such a cool fact, please talk more about it.
    Me, after thinking for a moment: Wait, you might need to let people know that monozygotic twins are the same as identical twins.

  • @Fooma777
    @Fooma777 2 месяца назад

    3:41 I already do this tho

  • @melorawr1608
    @melorawr1608 6 месяцев назад

    Lol Ceri: i think its called "charismatic", not "sexy".

  • @wokeexecutive8288
    @wokeexecutive8288 7 месяцев назад +2

    Host and mutualists? Certainly not parasites!

  • @doorknob3937
    @doorknob3937 7 месяцев назад +2

    attack of the clons!

    • @ZedaZ80
      @ZedaZ80 7 месяцев назад +1

      At first I thought this was a typo 😂

  • @seam6783
    @seam6783 6 месяцев назад

    I think consciousness would not transfer if star trek cloned cuz you could be cloned without being molecularly destroyed, and you wouldn't suddenly inhabit two bodies with your one consciousness. Meaning, i think, that star trek cloning is more like k(ing)ys and then separately making your twin somewhere else. I think you would need to transport your body as it is (or at least your brain) because otherwise consciousness fully ends whenever you teleport

  • @amandaweires
    @amandaweires 6 месяцев назад

    So fertility doctors do know that embryos are more likely to split when they undergo a little bit of trauma, resulting in identical twins or sometimes triplets. But it's not medically ideal, so in some shady fertility offices, you could probably try for twins pretty easily.

  • @sawace1
    @sawace1 7 месяцев назад

    I feel like in that future where everyone is getting twins that one of them would be named Spare.

  • @newtonydark
    @newtonydark 6 месяцев назад

    7:04

  • @JHaven-lg7lj
    @JHaven-lg7lj 6 месяцев назад

    Hang on, I don’t cease to exist when I go to sleep. I dream, for one thing.
    eta: Did I miss something, or was the Sam who stayed actually the edited-in one? I’m very confused 😄

  • @samanthanor332
    @samanthanor332 6 месяцев назад

    Aww Sam.😢

  • @jennifersaar1611
    @jennifersaar1611 7 месяцев назад

    Fun fact - humans have undergone at least two periods of genetic bottleneck. At one point, humans were down to around 1200 individuals.

  • @MissMarilynDarling
    @MissMarilynDarling 7 месяцев назад

    No I think the hardest part would be the jet lag cause its not gradule like it is when you fly its way worse cause you could go from a dayside to a night side in the blink of an eye and that would mess your sleep schedule like blah no aaa cant even deal with it no

  • @carollollol
    @carollollol 7 месяцев назад

    Wauw wat made Sam so antsy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheOnyxFlame
    @TheOnyxFlame 7 месяцев назад

    Only 7 minutes in and I can tell Hank is just so tickled by Sam's clone bit and really wants to continue with it, but can't for the sake of the show

  • @yossarrian
    @yossarrian Месяц назад

    Sam blended evil Spock with double Riker, who was NOT evil and it was result of an atmospheric ANOMALY that can't be repeated that doubled Riker, gah!

  • @LifeLostSoul
    @LifeLostSoul 7 месяцев назад

    This is not what I pictured them to look like in my head. I tried I can't watch. Back to audio only for me.

  • @LilBeee85
    @LilBeee85 2 месяца назад

    The "clone" is probably a twin.

  • @barryallen6156
    @barryallen6156 2 месяца назад

    Damn it hank leave Sam alone or we are coming for you his fact was perfect for this audience I'm still tripping over it

  • @iamthebubblelady
    @iamthebubblelady 5 месяцев назад

    Mammoths would be a bad thing to bring back considering climate change.

  • @nordicmind82
    @nordicmind82 22 дня назад

    Clowne is weird. Klon is right. So that’s how it’s spelled in proper languages, like Swedish, Danish, German, Russian, etc. Then there’s Persian…

  • @corpsin123
    @corpsin123 5 месяцев назад

    Wait, if rhe molly is a species of all females, but their repeoduction is sperm dependent, that must mean cross species interaction, no?

  • @hypergalacticnoodles
    @hypergalacticnoodles 5 месяцев назад

    sam's teeth are particularly white in this video. someone just got a professional teeth spa treatment.

  • @DivineErdrick
    @DivineErdrick 7 месяцев назад

    I don't want to say any spoilers, but if you want to see an interesting twist on transporter, read the webcomic Schlock Mercenary.

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 7 месяцев назад

    I can't hear "Pando" without thinking of Strange World. Obviously that was referential in the movie, but now those trees seem subtly malevolent.

  • @ericvilas
    @ericvilas 7 месяцев назад

    Some people clone their dog. Some people clone their dog 4 times to have as their new dogs to replace their former dog. Some people happen to then run for President of Argentina.

  • @theperfectbotsteve4916
    @theperfectbotsteve4916 7 месяцев назад

    but you wouldnt go to Hawaii tho you would just die. from the first person perspective your just haveing a child and sending them to hawaii and your ablitarated i dont want to die so some idot can go to hawaii even if that idot is me

  • @crepusculeXstargazer
    @crepusculeXstargazer 7 месяцев назад

    Spoiler for the movie!!! The teleportation thing is a plot point in the movie "The Prestige" with Hugh Jackman. Very twisted when ya see all the dead clones!