First of all thanks for posting, just an added note to the next video, the i bolt should be a solid i bolt, or you need to weld it. When I tightened up the centre bolt on the puller, it opened up the i bolt. I used a 3/8” bolt, so it was a good size but it couldn’t take the pressure. I did get the rims off quite fast. So thanks for the i bolt idea. Before I saw your video and I did watch others as well, I was going to make a custom puller.
The best tip. The Cub Cadet shaft drive hydrostatic series 2000 tractors used a axle hub adapter for the double D keyway axles. So do some of the MTD SLT class tractors. They used a 4 bolt pattern 8 and 12 inch rim that was interchangeable. If you want to save the headache. Buy the adapters and the rims. Then tire changes and putting chains on with be a breeze.
After watching all theses different styles of removing that stubborn ass rim .. I used your style .. worked great. I already had the tools to do it . Ty
Don't be smacking stuff. If you have the tools, it is an easy job to make a puller. If you don't have the tools to make one, pullers are not expensive.
GREAT idea IF you have holes in the rim, ONE SUGGESTION when trying this, IF you have a very stubborn one you very well may begin to open/spread out the Eye bolt, so get eyebolts that are solid OR have the gap welded before using.
You could drill holes if none are present. You don't have to use eye bolts just something that will work in your application. If I had to drill holes, I'd drill them closer to the hub.
Eye bolts brilliant, I was in the hardware store this morning. Wish I had seen your video sooner. I took the tire off one side this afternoon. The only marking I can see is 45N321? Its a 80's MTD. What size rear tire is yours? Thanks,
+Mr2fast4uall - Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
I appreciate your posting this, but I'm afraid this didn't work for me. The more I tightened the gear puller the more the eye bolts distorted and finally broke. 3 days of soaking with wd40 and I'm off to find another option.
I tried this. I straightened the eye bolts out. And managed to muck up the bolt threads with the puller. It is STUCK on there. Now I have to get a torch and a tap I guess.
Thanks MTD for designing the most ridiculous wheel mounting design of all riding lawn mowers. This is one of the many reasons I HATE MTD. Yea, that wheel came right off. But there will be some that will require a torts and destroying the rim to remove. Try getting a rim off a 20 year old MTD that was parked outside all its life.
I can agree, these wheels are a devil to get off. IMO, I think MTD mowers are cheap. They have too much engineering in them and things like Vari-drive system pulleys, and 3-speed rear ends for F-N-R. They have too much plastic and the frames are weaker than some other mowers. But, i have one of my own made in 1998 and it can go pretty fast. I've learned to work around the design flaws of it and make do. It was given to me for free so i shouldnt complain, and it has high-power Briggs 16.5hp intek motor so thats good. Now I also have a 2002 Craftsman LT1000. It's built much stronger, it is simpler, and it has more metal than my MTD. It hasn't given me any lip for 15 years now. Only major maintenance it's had is oil changes and maybe 2 belt replacements.
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
Works good. Let's see that on a rusted on wheel though. I sprayed PB Blaster, heated the wheel hub, sawed through the hub, then bought a bearing seperator kit with a stout puller and finally got the wheel off. When you buy a mower, new or used, pull the wheels and use Never Size on the axle.
I had a wheel on a JD 524 walk behind snow blower completely rust on the axle. I had to have it torched off. Dealer wanted $42 for wheel. I adapted an MTD wheel instead.
Hi,this looked extremely too easy.I have a 18.5 46inch cut mtd with rims likes yours.Will not budge after heating and pbblaster.Last option was to take transaxle off and work on the rim that way.When you are were pulling your rim,it looked like you had no resistance at all with the puller.I could tell that by how easy you were turning the socket..Im going to try this tomorrow but my rims is really rusted.
+tammygosnell I tried this today,It didn't not work wouldn't even budge it.It actually messed up the threads in my shaft because of the force on the puller.I retapped it going to remove the transaxle and use heat and pblaster and let gravity do it job.Be aware of using a puller near the shaft threads.Im not saying this will not work for you.My rim is stuck to the shaft.
Buy yourself a "Steering Wheel Puller set" from Harbor freight or wherever and then you can use regular Hex-Head bolts to screw into the wheel and pull it off. .
all rust is not created equal just like people. You got the pee wee herman rust and you have the arnold swatznegger rust. The people taking time to make these videos can't know what rust you have. I have been spraying on a freebee mower for several days and I can see a steady stream of rust particles leaving the keyway hole. If it takes a month so be it
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
+Samuel Fulton - Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / Cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
First of all thanks for posting, just an added note to the next video, the i bolt should be a solid i bolt, or you need to weld it. When I tightened up the centre bolt on the puller, it opened up the i bolt. I used a 3/8” bolt, so it was a good size but it couldn’t take the pressure. I did get the rims off quite fast. So thanks for the i bolt idea. Before I saw your video and I did watch others as well, I was going to make a custom puller.
God Bless you for this video. I thought I was the only guy on the planet with a bolt on read wheel.
Me too.
The best tip. The Cub Cadet shaft drive hydrostatic series 2000 tractors used a axle hub adapter for the double D keyway axles. So do some of the MTD SLT class tractors. They used a 4 bolt pattern 8 and 12 inch rim that was interchangeable. If you want to save the headache. Buy the adapters and the rims. Then tire changes and putting chains on with be a breeze.
Best way ive seen on RUclips to do one that has the two holes. Thanks man. It really helped
Thank you. Now I can keep going with my ride on project. Cheers from Australia.
After watching all theses different styles of removing that stubborn ass rim .. I used your style .. worked great. I already had the tools to do it . Ty
Thank you very much! This video was very helpful. It don't get any easier than this. Thanks for your time.
How do you put it back on
Do you have to have a puller? or, is it something like smacking disc brakes off a hub? can I smack the back side of the rim? Thanks
k mounts33 no, I tried that. I hate this lawn mower.
Don't be smacking stuff. If you have the tools, it is an easy job to make a puller. If you don't have the tools to make one, pullers are not expensive.
What size eye bolts did you get?
What size puller was that?
Yours was not as stuck as mine I was stretching 3/8 eye bolts and I still have stuck wheels.
where can I buy this puller I need one. no one has one I can use
Did you grease the wheel shaft. Drill a punch hole on a longer bolt, will keep extractor in place. Store modified bolt and extractor together
GREAT idea IF you have holes in the rim, ONE SUGGESTION when trying this, IF you have a very stubborn one you very well may begin to open/spread out the Eye bolt, so get eyebolts that are solid OR have the gap welded before using.
You could drill holes if none are present. You don't have to use eye bolts just something that will work in your application. If I had to drill holes, I'd drill them closer to the hub.
Eye bolts brilliant, I was in the hardware store this morning. Wish I had seen your video sooner. I took the tire off one side this afternoon. The only marking I can see is 45N321? Its a 80's MTD. What size rear tire is yours? Thanks,
what is the puller called? where did you get it?
Lee Cornett can you get into AutoZone they cost 20 dllrs
Wish i knew this trick last summer when i was trying to remove my back tire. Good info!!!!
What is the name of the tool and where can you buy it?
holes in the rims ?
Do most lawn mower back tires have a bolt?
some of them do
This saved me some time I got the bolt off but the wheel is very stubborn. I may just bring it somewhere and have it done.
+Mr2fast4uall - Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
Hey dude you gotta mouse problem there?
HAD a mouse problem but how could you tell???
I appreciate your posting this, but I'm afraid this didn't work for me. The more I tightened the gear puller the more the eye bolts distorted and finally broke. 3 days of soaking with wd40 and I'm off to find another option.
Eye bolts ! Great idea and I already have the puller.
I tried this. I straightened the eye bolts out. And managed to muck up the bolt threads with the puller. It is STUCK on there. Now I have to get a torch and a tap I guess.
good information because i had no clue how to get that tire off.............
Thanks MTD for designing the most ridiculous wheel mounting design of all riding lawn mowers. This is one of the many reasons I HATE MTD. Yea, that wheel came right off. But there will be some that will require a torts and destroying the rim to remove. Try getting a rim off a 20 year old MTD that was parked outside all its life.
I can agree, these wheels are a devil to get off. IMO, I think MTD mowers are cheap. They have too much engineering in them and things like Vari-drive system pulleys, and 3-speed rear ends for F-N-R. They have too much plastic and the frames are weaker than some other mowers. But, i have one of my own made in 1998 and it can go pretty fast. I've learned to work around the design flaws of it and make do. It was given to me for free so i shouldnt complain, and it has high-power Briggs 16.5hp intek motor so thats good. Now I also have a 2002 Craftsman LT1000. It's built much stronger, it is simpler, and it has more metal than my MTD. It hasn't given me any lip for 15 years now. Only major maintenance it's had is oil changes and maybe 2 belt replacements.
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
Well another way - CUT the tire..... It will be easier and faster than fighting it. Just CUT the Tire and put on a new one.
penetrating oil goes a long way, or just soak it in vinegar for a day, it will pop right off.
Works good. Let's see that on a rusted on wheel though. I sprayed PB Blaster, heated the wheel hub, sawed through the hub, then bought a bearing seperator kit with a stout puller and finally got the wheel off. When you buy a mower, new or used, pull the wheels and use Never Size on the axle.
Great suggestion!
What if we do t have a puller
I don't understand the question?
Go to O’Reilly’s Auto Parts if one is near you. They rent tools for 48 hours. Pay deposit, returned in full when tools returned.
what kind of puller are u using?
I don't know the brand.
how long is the puller?
I had a wheel on a JD 524 walk behind snow blower completely rust on the axle. I had to have it torched off. Dealer wanted $42 for wheel. I adapted an MTD wheel instead.
Thank you. Some great ideas.
Hehe. I just went thru that with my mower. Not as easy as that when it’s rusted and/or seized on.
Hi,this looked extremely too easy.I have a 18.5 46inch cut mtd with rims likes yours.Will not budge after heating and pbblaster.Last option was to take transaxle off and work on the rim that way.When you are were pulling your rim,it looked like you had no resistance at all with the puller.I could tell that by how easy you were turning the socket..Im going to try this tomorrow but my rims is really rusted.
+tammygosnell I tried this today,It didn't not work wouldn't even budge it.It actually messed up the threads in my shaft because of the force on the puller.I retapped it going to remove the transaxle and use heat and pblaster and let gravity do it job.Be aware of using a puller near the shaft threads.Im not saying this will not work for you.My rim is stuck to the shaft.
What about the front wheel?
+GlockNinja - The Front Wheels are easy, they have Bushings in them... They slide out easily after removing the C-Clips.
I use an bigger drill bit ,made hole Lil bit bigger,an puller fit right in,an hit it wth impact an bam,came right off
You should clean the axle and put never seize on it.
Thanks, good idea!
Buy yourself a "Steering Wheel Puller set" from Harbor freight or wherever and then you can use regular Hex-Head bolts to screw into the wheel and pull it off.
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Great idea. I will try that.
I bow to the master !!!!!!!
all rust is not created equal just like people. You got the pee wee herman rust and you have the arnold swatznegger rust. The people taking time to make these videos can't know what rust you have. I have been spraying on a freebee mower for several days and I can see a steady stream of rust particles leaving the keyway hole. If it takes a month so be it
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
Tried that and didn't work
+Samuel Fulton - Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*
I can assure you it was barely stuck. I used 3/8 eye bolts and straightend them your full of something.😮
That is an excellent idea.
If the wheel is frozen seal tight, No puller will do the job,
Thanks did not see the 2 hols :) got it
That is not a MTD
But it is an AYP American yard products
Easy Tips: Well an easier way - CUT the Tire..... It will be easier and faster than fighting it. Just CUT the Tire and put on a new one.
A thinking man......a rare commodity
you never showed how to take off the clip
Good information. Except, I have a solid rim
Drill a hole or two?
No way Jose I don’t mind!
Easy to replace
thanks
"this puller"? Not too helpful. WHAT puller?
It shouldn't be this hard.
That is stupid, I don't own a puller
Wish i knew this trick last summer when i was trying to remove my back tire. Good info!!!!
Tips: Get a Torch and heat around it... DO NOT heat the Axle. Once it's HOT, use Cold Water and splash it really quick. Now try it again.... If that doesn't work, do it again, sometimes 2-3X will do it!!! By using Hot / Cold method, you are expanding / contracting the " rust "! *NOTE:* *Remove ALL the Air Out of your Tire when doing this method!*