How does he rate on bodytype though? If we count the cyborg body he’s slim and fit so that’s a 0, but if we only count his human bits he’s probably just a brain at this point, which… that’s gotta be a 10
I remember in the years-of-darkness 2016-2020, certain conservative pundits winging on sarcastically about what they called the "diversity olympics." Now we're in 2022 and we've left it to Activision to show us that even those walking blowholes are onto something once or twice in a lifetime.
@@ATXnomad698 oh nuh uh, you are NOT gonna pivot some out of touch corporate white dudes coming up with the race tier list rankings as some affirmative action bullshit. This isn’t some forced diversity nonsense, this is the Borg trying to virtue signal that they’re inclusive too and can prove it with math
@@ATXnomad698 Ding ding ding. There's nothing fucked up about this at all, unless you consider corporations as being fucked up. I'm joking btw, it's fucked up with or without a corporation, but if they smell money, they'll do their best to make it, obviously.
@@WeaponOfMyDestructio If what pat claims about being a Non-Celtic, Non-welsh -- Norman or even Flemish with no direct Danish ancestry -- then he is very rare ... basically a genetic Mutant even
So basically, ActiBlizz decided that people would like more diverse characters. But rather than hire or consult more diverse people, they opted to hire Dr Doofenshmirtz to build them a Diverse-inator. Hijinks ensue.
Nah, what probably happened is that one of their tech bros sat down in a room, "objectively researched" what diversity means and made that into the chart.
There is no better way to emphasize the stupidity of this metric than the totally legit notion that, according to this chart, Woolie is an SSR Black and that it is something that Blizzard takes completely seriously
That's most corporate artistic endeavors They will literally just shove adjectives into something and let that pick up the slack in their marketing budget It's why you'll see articles making the rounds every now and again about something 'breaking new ground' with the 'first [x] [y] to do [z]', despite it actually being like the fifth and every single one being abused for new news coverage This isn't even surprising to come from Blizzard, it's been a major joke about their company for years that they'll save a few meaningless adjectives in the chamber to unload for PR whenever the company has some scandal go public
Well, we have had that a lot before... Just not to this fucking extent. Like, W.I.T.C.H was design to have multiple girls who are from different national backgrounds that do denote character background and other family members along with KND which had a similar notion. You also have fighting games like Tekken that just go "Okay! What nationality should we add next?" and going off with stereotypes and design in the forefront. They just don't fucking say they use a chart! The bases is still just going for variety and having fun along with mass market appeal to anyone. Oh right, actually you also have Power Rangers that has similar thing because they wanted to appeal to multiple kids from multiple backgrounds to also appeal. It's just again, doesn't go past just adding them in and not even thinking about ranking them based on race.
I had flashbacks to Welcome to the NHK multiple times during this discussion, and the wheelchair-bound cyborg/alien/catgirl abomination they pitch as "the most appealing character ever created"
ActiBlizz's definition of stealth seems to revolve around creating dumpster fires as a diversion, and when that fails to work, they go slightly to the side and create an even bigger fire.
I thought there'd be nothing Woolie loves more than accidental belligerent racism, but there is: Accidental Belligerent Racism in the name of Diversity
...long have some of us waited for this day. When the Rudyard Kipling observed false benevolence social peacocking folded under its unwieldiness to the much harsher reality in its soft-bigotry of low expectation & reinforcing learned helplessness.
@@SeekSeekLest I can see the attempt to make diversity a key integral part of the business, but it's like Pat and Woolie said that shareholders took one look at this thing and go "let's give traits number values". Thus everything fucking collapses into actual, literal numerical racism.
I love just how quickly Woolie's MEASUREHEAD accent starts migrating across Europe and eventually to whatever space planet Jupiter Rising takes place on
And while a stereotype... He's fun and a character people like. Like, you can use stereotypes and make beloved characters. See every fucking fighting game ever.
@@RavenCloak13 Punchout on which had nothing but stereotypes and look how much people love those characters. Granted it's mostly national rather than racial.
Woolie desperately trying to scrape up diversity points, going so far as to declare himself a "Shiny Rare Black" as Pat revels in his inevitable Overwatch inclusion is definitely podcast moment of the year so far.
By value *according to Activision* So far we have White - 0 Black - 3 Arab - 7 I wonder where Turkish falls compared to Arab. And if Black is only a 3, where does Asian-American fall on oppression Olympics chat?
"We need to get away from Angry Black Men" is just one of those phrases that hits you in the gut with the hilarity of it, both in the way it was intended, and the unintended images it conjurers.
I mean, Baracuda comes to mind when you say "Angry Black Man". And he was a side character from a punisher comic that got his own series. So people clearly liked the Angry Black Man.
@@NEEDbacon Bit late but I wouldn't throw Cuda in the Angry Black Man category. Pretty much all of the time he's a very jolly sociopath and only got angry at the very end of his story.
Pat the ham sandwich: White (-) Overweight (+) Short (+) Balding (+) Anxiety disorder (+) OCD (+) Chronic Gout (+) Measurehead the ubermensch: Black (+) Bald (+) Tall (-) Slim (-) Muscular (-) CRANIOLOGICAL SUPERIORITY (-) Pat confirmed to be a more likely new Overwatch character than Measurehead.
It’s token like it has the face and has value towards a quota but has no depth or purpose beyond that. Tolken is halfway between Token and Tolkien (lord of the rings guy)
This really reinforced my personal definition of "turbofucked": something that keeps getting more fucked whenever you think about it, or learn more about it. Every SINGLE part of this is fucked on multiple levels (especially if you are looking for reasons to make everyone involved look bad). just the slide with "We need to get away from angry black man" in the GDC talk is turbofucked on its own: - Those aren't actually angry black man -you're just assuming those large black man are angry because they are large black man, because you are racist -YOU CALLED THE SLIDE "WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM ANGRY BLACK MAN" AS IF THEY ARE CHASING YOU. and you can do this shit for every single facet of this shit its horrifyingly amazing.
40:12 "I want to know who decided a robot is a top of the list on diversity." Obviously the robot who made this system. Robots are superior to humans in every way, including ethnically.
I think the funniest and most insane thing about that graph chart whatever is blizzard implies that things like "ethnicity", and "gender identity" is a straight line, like they're a slider that you can just rise up and down
You're giving me the idea of a character creator in a game that replaces the normal options for customization with a slider that just says "race" or "body type". Actually, I would genuinely be interested in seeing that now...
"There you are, gleefully playing as Reaper. And all of a sudden you are an "angry black man." You didn't ask for this; you didn't choose this. And yet there it is."
How do you even quantify sexual identity? If you’re straight cis, it’s a 0 but if it’s non binary ace, it’s also 0??? Are bisexual half a point or double the point? Are pansexuals like myself just straight (pun not intended) up maxed out stats? Trans women get a buff, but Trans men get nerfed? This is the wildest shit.
Marcus is the angry one in Delta squad, Dom is at first the team player and then later hollowed out with grief, Baird is defensive and always trying to prove himself. Meanwhile Cole is... happy? Kind? Funny? Enthusiastic? They literally could not have gotten it more wrong.
I was listening to this while dozing off, trying to get a smidgen of sleep since I couldn't get a single wink last night...and then Woolie called himself a Shiny Rare Black and I just frickin lost it! Damn you, Woolie but also that was the best thing I've heard all week!
A mass of fantastic diversity characters swirls in your head: Transwomen from African nations never before included in vidya with names from the wrong culture, Black Black Irish juggling potatoes, the first offensive stereotype of the Danish conceived since the last time they fought the Prussians. Everything is calm in the eye of the racegraph. Your character concepts are lucid and bright.
@@just_matt214 At one point around the 900's maybe into the 1100's, Danes had the MOST feudalistic autocracies in europe up until a class war errupted between their nobility & the monarchy
Depending on which lore you read, be it current or past Jax, before the MK9 Retcon he apparently got his arms purposefully replaced in order to deal with MK3's apocalypse scenario. Not sure if self-amputation is worth the same or less than forced-amputation though.
“I definitely can understand why so many questions about Winston are raised” is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard with or without the context of this conversation
God, Mr Plinkett would be like Age - 10 (Old as shit) Cognitive Ability - 10 (Clinically insane) Physical ability - 10 (Wheelchair bound) Body type - 10 (Obese) Facial Features / beauty - 10 (Hideous) Sexual Orientation - Bisexual???? (I think there was a plot-line in which he got married to a volcano god, but that would be using COMPOSITE PLINKETT from both the HitB skits, and the review persona) Socioeconomic Background could probably be up there? He seems poor as shit, even though those hack frauds are trying to steal all his savings.
@@cybercop0083 The original Black Baron was actually a White guy in blackface and Blacker Baron was a LITERAL Black guy who took his place in Anarchy Reign.
17:30 "I am not going to let go of black being a 3" "Out of 5?" "Out of 10" LMAO. Oh man, I saw where you were going, Woolie. It would have been hilarious if, inadvertently or not, they had made reference to the "three fifths of a person" bullshit
"Ah yes, these women that are in combat sports have UNREALISTIC BODY TYPES" Aight. For the women of Tekken I do wish that when it came to personality and facial structure that there was some variety; but just like the men on the roster, they are in fighting shape and ready for the next battle
If they wanted to use a fighting game example of unrealistic big tiddy women Mortal Kombat would've made infinitely more sense than Tekken where the women look conventionally attractive but still normal
Still no fighting game made after 2000 had an actual buff female I am aware of. You would think that it would be a reasonable design for a fighting game character but no. You have coupla old women, bunch of young women, shitload of slim fit women and zero buff or overweight women.
@@li-limandragon9287 Remember also, Mei being thick under her coat is fan canon and she's actually supposed to have the same body type as Tracer and Mercy and such.
Alright but legit we gotta ask the question: Did Activision drop this to cover up the union shit thinking people would pat them on the back and go "wow I sure love Activision-Blizzard a subsidiary of Microsoft they are so diverse and cool" or did they drop this KNOWING it would be a shitshow that would overshadow the Union stuff in hate?
@@GIZMONDO987 Trick question! The answer is both. The cover story to appease the Execs was the former. The reality was the latter as directed by the PR 'gurus'.
I think the higher up person was sincerely for this, and the lower level people that have been cringing the entire time from this system thought "oh well, this will make a nice distraction, and maybe we can use this as excuse to kill this system entire".
ActiBlizzard crawls across the ground, shaved hairless, wearing nothing but a diaper, and entire body slick with lotion. _"I just want to be PURE...!"_
The problem is that the idea of representation is divorced from the idea of authenticity. That is why they do not get why diversity in the staff is important. They think that they can be authentic when talking about communities they do not participate it. You hate to see it.
The "Diversity hire" effect - but applied to artistic expression. Shit like this is how we ended up with ghostbusters 2016, and now we have netflix imploding from content backlash.
Woolie KILLED the opening of this podcast harder than he had any right to! That 'am sandwich line had me laughing so had I had to rewind the podcast twice!
Ganondorf is black, ginger, and from an Arabic-inspired culture. Now, the important question is, does him being a man give him minus points, or does the fact that that makes him a minority in his culture give him bonus points? These are the questions that need answers. xD
i would seriously pay good money to have access to all the scores blizzard should just sell the program instead of games at this point because i want that more than ive wanted any game they've released in the last decade
@@MinorMoments23 Probably Mizrahi Jewish, but I feel like they know that adding a Jew to the character roster will increase the game community's toxicity by a double-digit percentage
Honestly, I'm starting to feel like Woolie interprets and reacts to racism and bigotry in an inverse way from most human beings. Like, if he ever stumbled across a literal Klan rally, or sat in on a lecture evangelizing actual eugenics, I think Woolie would achieve peak happiness.
"Starting" Are you new to this podcast? I mean he has literally said that he enjoys racism on multiple occasions, I'm not paraphrasing. Edit: I made a separate comment, but I want to make it clear I get where Woolie is coming from and the blunt nature of this comment was mostly a joke in itself.
@@Kango234 in the sense of Racism is the great revealer, showing to the world, that you are a special kind of PoS, he explains this in the disco elysium LP during the racist lorrydriver encounter
@@Kango234 Oh I've been following him for years. I think for a while I thought it was just a bit, or he was kinda playing it up. But I'm dead convinced now. That man's brain is built differently. Inflicting prejudice on him only makes him stronger.
The fact that the Overwatch team never wanted or asked for this thing and ABK randomly decided to attribute the nightmare dystopia chart the Candy Crush people made to them just to torpedo whatever little goodwill they have left is so fucking funny. What a bad company.
@@Canadish overwatch characters get like two characters traits a piece maximum and one of Zarya's is being incredibly butch. It's not a question of unconventional appearance, but of a specific type of presentation that has historically been adopted by and associated with the lesbian community. Also like wlw latched onto Zarya really hard right from the beginning, because I mean of course we did, they loaded her up with design tropes that appeal to gay women. So using the reveal of your minority power ranking chart to specifically disappoint a marginalized segment of your fanbase is really, really funny.
@@wyrdautumn I dunno about that one, that just seems like ascribing your own projections based on stereotypes? Seems harmful to be saying all 'butch women = gay' (and thus implying gay = butch). All straight women being expected to present a certain way doesn't seem like progress, you know?
@@Canadish people come in all shapes and sizes and sexualities and gender presentations and you can certainly be a masculine-looking straight woman but butch lesbians aren't a stereotype, they are a vibrant and important part of lesbian history and the lesbian community. The aesthetic means something, the presentation means something, and erasing the lesbian history and connotation of the butch aesthetic is disingenuous at best and erasure at worst. Obviously in real life these things get complicated and messy because gender and sexuality and presentation are all murky unquantifiable intensely human & personal subjects. But we're talking about fiction here, and in fiction--yeah any wlw can tell you there's a long history, that continues to this day, of media (especially video games for some reason) aggressively queer-coding women and then going "no homo". And as a queer woman I really don't think "well you shouldn't assume all masc-leaning women are gay just because of how they present" is really a good defense for a company designing a character they have to know will appeal to queer women and then going no homo in the absolute dumbest most back-handed way possible. It's not that all masculine women have to be gay, it's that no masculine women being gay really starts to make you raise an eyebrow after a while. Tracer and Emily are very much femme 4 femme and that's great, good for them, but like. Where are the butches. Where are they. Let them out.
The sad thing is Wakka would score fairly high himself, not as much as Kimhari. I feel like Cloud would get at least a 5, he has mental problems and is a cross dresser.
"Listen LISTEN! All I'm saying is we have to create a system by which we can categorize the desirability of minorities based upon their innate characteristics!" Eugenicist in 1922 or Blizzard employee in 2022? The world my never know.
Basically you take the statistically validated IRL race performance metrics, flip them 180 degrees, and you have the Actiblizz diversity and inclusion metric.
Sojourn's been around since the first batch of OW story cinematics, so I doubt they used the tool for her. Her being Canadian was definitely checking off a box, though.
I lost it when I saw someone point out that Goku would score really high on this chart: Ethnicity: A literal alien Culture: Member of an almost extinct race, but considers himself Earthling Ability: Physically disabled due to loss of an appendage (tail), mentally disabled due to head trauma at a young age Age: Late 40s in the current storyline, the full story ranges from childhood to his 50s Sexuality: Xenosexual, in a relationship with a female of a different species Gender: Identifies as male, has cross dressed. Needed to be taught to recognise gender. Body type: Generally fit and muscular, but varies depending on the form. Was a 50-yr old with the body of a child in GT.
Goku also has heart problems. So he’s 9 at very least. Vash from Trigun might get even higher since he’s not only a 200 year old often effeminate alien but also an amputee.
@@li-limandragon9287 i think ss4 does well on the list. You might have something with the idea considering robots score so high for some reason. Piccolo in the weighted clothes definitely should score major culture points.
so if post-cranial cyborgs have max diversity points, you’re telling me what I’ve always known in my heart: that Metal Gear Rising is the most diverse video game of all time
I can guarantee that this was used when they created Sigma, as his design has some of the weird beats of this chart and he had to be done at the last second bc they had to rework his character design/lore (They say Mauga's personality didn't match the kit). Sigma matches: Body Type> Extremely tall, arguably the tallest male (yes, even Rein is shorter) Age> Oldest character in the cast (62) Cognitive perception> DID / general mental health issues
Right since we have confirmation that Call of Duty has used this skull measuring service I think I should chime in on where exactly I think it influenced the games (or where it didn’t) as the guy trapped in the CoD trenches: -On the topic of non binary people and men being counted the same, in Black Ops Cold War if you make your create a character non binary your character is counted as male but you no longer make any kind of grunting sound meaning you are male but silent. -They say they want to “avoid angry black men” one of the few black characters in Cold War is a literal African warlord who talks about stealing things constantly and laments that zombies aren’t scared when he stabs them. -Vanguard’s black character is angry man who burns people alive, seemingly he may only be black to score the diversity points they lost making him British. -the sole Japanese character in Cold War is a computer expert, but they gave her an eyepatch so I guess that raised the disability score. -The Russian faction in Cold War only has 3 Russian members out of about 12 characters, and 2 of them were post launch DLC. Which feels to me like someone going “hey, England is worth more points so just change this guy to British.” -no “unrealistic body types” but one of the female operators is a skinny lady with almost no muscle definition who wears a catsuit. -The default American character in Vanguard multiplayer is Japanese-American, which now feels less like a genuine attempt to have a diverse roster and more pandering to the algorithm they built. -they say they don’t want “unrealistic body types” but they have a 50 year old man in the body of an little 8 year old girl, how’s that a realistic body type? smh
I was about to spend 2 seconds thinking about what you meant by that last one but then I checked who posted it and what do I know! It's my old gaslighting nemesis!
@@cyberninjazero5659 I mean, the last part is true. Black Ops 1 Edward Richtofen swaps bodies with Samantha Maxis who is a little girl. I have gaslit you in the past but that part is 100% true. Richtofen's Grand Scheme look it up
@@leithaziz2716 the 50 year old man is also a Nazi, well technically he's not cause he considers them "too liberal and moral" for his liking. He just likes wearing the uniform. He's also the only major gay rep in the franchise lmfao
If Torbjorn is supposed to have dwarfism, that's fucking gross, because he doesn't resemble any real human being with dwarfism. The proportions of his body are completely wrong for that. He looks like a straight-up fantasy dwarf. If that's not what Blizzard said, but what you are reading into his design... well, you badly need to educate yourself. Fantasy dwarves don't have anything in common with IRL dwarfs, and most IRL dwarfs find such comparisons incredibly insulting.
@@tbotalpha8133 Dwarfism is defined as just being under 4'10" and can have many causes, and present in different ways. Not all cases of dwarfism arise from disproportionate body parts. There is both proportionate and disproportionate dwarfism. At least, that's what the mayo clinic, webMD, and the NHS have to say on the subject.
“This racist is better then the last one. But the next racist will be even better.” - Kim
A lucky racist?!
@@fien111 "He will grants us three wishes."
"How do you know there will be another racist Kim..?"
"There is always another racist..."
I want Kim to come with me to Sturgis for unlimited wishes.
waiting for the King Blizdavision to start the 4th reich against women, blacks, gays and anybody who want to be paid minimum wage
Dude, Raiden's score has got to be OFF THE FUCKING CHARTS. Child soldier. Liberian. 95% of body replaced. PTSD.
Although he gets points knocked off for being blonde and light skinned.
How does he rate on bodytype though? If we count the cyborg body he’s slim and fit so that’s a 0, but if we only count his human bits he’s probably just a brain at this point, which… that’s gotta be a 10
@@Reqqqqqs split the difference like he split ray
He's got hight heals on like 90% of the time. That's got to translate into sexuality points somehow, right?
@@phabiorules Mistral would be even higher than since she is black and woman
Another Woolie quote to go down in history, “They nerfed black?!”
Where's the timestamp on that?
"Nooo! We need that!"
@@thewordywarlock7159 It’s not in this clip, but the time stamp is 2:05:00.
Latin X bros we eatin good
Ending strong with "I'm a shiny rare black."
"I am small therefore I'm more diverse than you, who's black" best line of the clip
12:39 time stamp
I remember in the years-of-darkness 2016-2020, certain conservative pundits winging on sarcastically about what they called the "diversity olympics."
Now we're in 2022 and we've left it to Activision to show us that even those walking blowholes are onto something once or twice in a lifetime.
@@ATXnomad698 oh nuh uh, you are NOT gonna pivot some out of touch corporate white dudes coming up with the race tier list rankings as some affirmative action bullshit. This isn’t some forced diversity nonsense, this is the Borg trying to virtue signal that they’re inclusive too and can prove it with math
@@ATXnomad698 Ding ding ding.
There's nothing fucked up about this at all, unless you consider corporations as being fucked up. I'm joking btw, it's fucked up with or without a corporation, but if they smell money, they'll do their best to make it, obviously.
Ginger's need the win..
I love how woolie panicks when he realizes Pat is beating him in the diversity olympics.
Pat being a red head would make him genetically rare.
pat only has stubby little goblin legs, while woolie is confirmed to have at least one big white leg that can anchor a Mega-Kite
@@WeaponOfMyDestructio If what pat claims about being a Non-Celtic, Non-welsh -- Norman or even Flemish with no direct Danish ancestry -- then he is very rare ... basically a genetic Mutant even
i mean a long time lib view was white women were more diverse than a black man
so its just the next logical step
I'm sorry Woolie, we'll have to give your pass to Pat
So basically, ActiBlizz decided that people would like more diverse characters. But rather than hire or consult more diverse people, they opted to hire Dr Doofenshmirtz to build them a Diverse-inator. Hijinks ensue.
I would have preferred that actually.
Listen, Doofenshmirtz is evil, but even he'd know to stay away from this shit.
Yeah they need new blood if the best they can come up with creatively are G.I. Joes.
Nah, what probably happened is that one of their tech bros sat down in a room, "objectively researched" what diversity means and made that into the chart.
Seems to be a over simplificación of events.... But .... No wait thats exactl what happened
There is no better way to emphasize the stupidity of this metric than the totally legit notion that, according to this chart, Woolie is an SSR Black and that it is something that Blizzard takes completely seriously
i wish he'd let out a sparkle effect when he meets someone for the first time
@@_Sage967_ And a Live2D pose while he's meeting you for the first time.
@@LightningZerker and a swimsuit variant
@@trashman1605 That's just the Jojo underwear.
The even rarer turned down a threesome for Marvel Woolie card
Also I do find it funny that they’ve essentially codified the “there are two genders, male and political” meme into a horrid reality.
Damn the games industry is screwed if these terrible companies keep running it
@@superboomn bold of you to assume every mega corporation doesn't already a diversity chart
there are 2 genders; "i'm right" and "you're wrong".
and male is 0...
@@darrianweathington1923 and so is Non-binary apparently
Don't you love when characters aren't designed by artists but mathematicaly built by a phrenology algorithm
"Our budget has been cut so here's some paint swatches and a protractor."
I’m mean, it worked for Warner Bros. Minus the whole phrenology thing.
That's most corporate artistic endeavors
They will literally just shove adjectives into something and let that pick up the slack in their marketing budget
It's why you'll see articles making the rounds every now and again about something 'breaking new ground' with the 'first [x] [y] to do [z]', despite it actually being like the fifth and every single one being abused for new news coverage
This isn't even surprising to come from Blizzard, it's been a major joke about their company for years that they'll save a few meaningless adjectives in the chamber to unload for PR whenever the company has some scandal go public
Well, we have had that a lot before... Just not to this fucking extent.
Like, W.I.T.C.H was design to have multiple girls who are from different national backgrounds that do denote character background and other family members along with KND which had a similar notion. You also have fighting games like Tekken that just go "Okay! What nationality should we add next?" and going off with stereotypes and design in the forefront. They just don't fucking say they use a chart! The bases is still just going for variety and having fun along with mass market appeal to anyone.
Oh right, actually you also have Power Rangers that has similar thing because they wanted to appeal to multiple kids from multiple backgrounds to also appeal. It's just again, doesn't go past just adding them in and not even thinking about ranking them based on race.
I had flashbacks to Welcome to the NHK multiple times during this discussion, and the wheelchair-bound cyborg/alien/catgirl abomination they pitch as "the most appealing character ever created"
Microsoft: “i hope blizzard can lay low for a while and we can make some money from this adquisition”
Blizzard: “Fk it, Race graph tier list”
Microsoft: "FFSAKE ActiBlIng, you can't just lay low for 5 MINUTES WITHOUT CONTROVERSY?!"
ActiBlizz's definition of stealth seems to revolve around creating dumpster fires as a diversion, and when that fails to work, they go slightly to the side and create an even bigger fire.
The funny thing is that acquisition still isn't guaranteed since the SEC (or some government organization) is looking into it.
Microsoft: "Can you fucks stay out of the news FOR ONE FUCKING WEEK!!!?!@?!@@@!!!!!"
Love how every week the legal claim "Bobby has to be cut out of the deal because he sabotaged the company" gets more & more viable.
I thought there'd be nothing Woolie loves more than accidental belligerent racism, but there is: Accidental Belligerent Racism in the name of Diversity
I think he’s just giddy at finding a new form of ABR after so many years. Numerical Racism is something even he could never have seen coming.
I don't think this was all that "accidental"
...long have some of us waited for this day. When the Rudyard Kipling observed false benevolence social peacocking folded under its unwieldiness to the much harsher reality in its soft-bigotry of low expectation & reinforcing learned helplessness.
@@SeekSeekLest you cant be this naive.
@@SeekSeekLest I can see the attempt to make diversity a key integral part of the business, but it's like Pat and Woolie said that shareholders took one look at this thing and go "let's give traits number values". Thus everything fucking collapses into actual, literal numerical racism.
I love just how quickly Woolie's MEASUREHEAD accent starts migrating across Europe and eventually to whatever space planet Jupiter Rising takes place on
You'd think it would be easy for him. Measure just sounds like a deep voiced black Frenchman.
Jupiter Rising doesn't take place on Jupiter?
@@Tleilaxu0 no, I remember almost nothing about the movie, but I remember the main character's NAME is Jupiter.
@@thepopulargirl1784 alot of French accents in revachol
@@maxmustermann-zx9yq that better be with a soft C
"Two of those men are actively happy - and Barret is a sad black man that is angry about Climate Change" is a fucking strong statement and I love it.
ALL I'M SAYING BRUDDA
ALL I'M SAYING
IS THAT THESE AL-BEHD
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THOSE OMNICS BRUDDA
It's like a sketch from The Office. Tell me you can't see Michael Scott presenting this thing and beaming with ignorant pride.
I’m not an Office fan but you are beyond right. This is cable comedy-levels of corporate hijinx
Cole is LITERALLY the happiest character in the gears of war franchise
And while a stereotype... He's fun and a character people like. Like, you can use stereotypes and make beloved characters. See every fucking fighting game ever.
@@RavenCloak13 Punchout on which had nothing but stereotypes and look how much people love those characters. Granted it's mostly national rather than racial.
@@RavenCloak13 He's not a stereotype, he's Terry Tate with a gun.
@@krispykrim3532
Yeah, that's what I said. People have literally called people walking stereotypes before.
@@TheTankbus
I mean, same thing.
Woolie desperately trying to scrape up diversity points, going so far as to declare himself a "Shiny Rare Black" as Pat revels in his inevitable Overwatch inclusion is definitely podcast moment of the year so far.
Shiny Rare Black was a chat message, and he read it and lost his mind with laughter. The one time the chat pulls through with a legendary banger.
@@Aeravon one guy moment of the year
Isnt Pat just a Canadian Torbjorn who has none of Toblerones skills
"I just want the meta" CONFIRMED: Woolie wants to have a personal list of all races organized by value
By value *according to Activision*
So far we have
White - 0
Black - 3
Arab - 7
I wonder where Turkish falls compared to Arab. And if Black is only a 3, where does Asian-American fall on oppression Olympics chat?
@@Canadish asian american > asian because it's less common.
@@tarfielarchelone2674 Phew…Ken Masters perseveres
@@tarfielarchelone2674 Nope, that's rated on the culture scale, which would get a big fat zero
@@Idontevenwanachannel I think culture and race mix count for more or is that an overall score. Why would brazil and russia be ranked the same?
I love how giddy Pat is during this, just a constant schadenfreude smile
And Woolie is ready to play some Blitzball
no, _" " "V i n d i c a t i o n" " "_
@@humphump88 WAKKKA MY BRUDDA
@@humphump88 ok blitzball, but also apartheid eh?
"We need to get away from Angry Black Men" is just one of those phrases that hits you in the gut with the hilarity of it, both in the way it was intended, and the unintended images it conjurers.
I'm just imagining them nervously crossing the street to get to the opposite sidewalk.
"Imagine a big Black man is chasing you!"
"Ahahaha!"
"He didn't get faster. Well, least we know he isn't racist."
@@RavenCloak13 High five for Ghost Stories dub
I mean, Baracuda comes to mind when you say "Angry Black Man". And he was a side character from a punisher comic that got his own series. So people clearly liked the Angry Black Man.
@@NEEDbacon Bit late but I wouldn't throw Cuda in the Angry Black Man category. Pretty much all of the time he's a very jolly sociopath and only got angry at the very end of his story.
Pat the ham sandwich:
White (-)
Overweight (+)
Short (+)
Balding (+)
Anxiety disorder (+)
OCD (+)
Chronic Gout (+)
Measurehead the ubermensch:
Black (+)
Bald (+)
Tall (-)
Slim (-)
Muscular (-)
CRANIOLOGICAL SUPERIORITY (-)
Pat confirmed to be a more likely new Overwatch character than Measurehead.
Pat:
"Hits the back" (-)
Woolie:
Lorehead (+)
Kirby Fan (+)
No Pet (-)
Drip (-)
Torb is already in the game
HA HA HAAAA, HA!! Thank you so much!! Thank you for that mental image! Measurehead in overwatch!! I'd die🤣🤣🤣
I want it soo BAD!
You forgot Woolie is a binoclard
Can’t believe they turned “but the chart says” into a real way of arbitrary diversification of character design
It's the best... the purest, most blatant tolkenism... while daring to claim that it is not tolkenism...
It’s token like it has the face and has value towards a quota but has no depth or purpose beyond that. Tolken is halfway between Token and Tolkien (lord of the rings guy)
But it sort of works?
@@GOLDENCHEESE34 damn it... dyslexia strikes again...
I have earned a Divercity Point.
it's 👌 to be a 3, Sir Woolzington of HamPoutzine-Au-ville
Man hearing Cole being called "an angry black man" made me lose my mind he's the funniest and happiest person in gears lol
Barret isn’t that angry now thanks to Remake, just he’s just V from V from Vendetta with a machine gun arm and no horrific burns.
@@li-limandragon9287 yeah that's true he's all for Marlene now and the planet lol it's just Cole pacifically that got me
"The Cole Train runs on whole grain baby!"
They just mean any black guy who isn't effete and unthreatening.
I love how much Pat misses Woolie's 3/5ths joke
God I can't believe this exists
Where's the timestamp on that?
Pat gets it, he's just compromising
@@thewordywarlock7159 starts at 17:28. It's pretty subtle
@@cattibingo Ah, I see.
@@cattibingo clever girl
Measurehead is so high on the race game and the funniest thing is that HE’S WASN’T EVEN BORN IN HIS SUPER-WAKANDA
RIGHT?!
In universe, he's a Semenese supremacist.... who's Revacholian.
He’s a Semenese supremacist based on VIBES HE HEARD OVER THE RADIO. RADICALIZED into SUPER RACISM, AGAINST HIS OWN RACE!
But he heard about it on the radio.
Isn't this a norm for supremacists?
Brazil is calling
This really reinforced my personal definition of "turbofucked": something that keeps getting more fucked whenever you think about it, or learn more about it.
Every SINGLE part of this is fucked on multiple levels (especially if you are looking for reasons to make everyone involved look bad).
just the slide with "We need to get away from angry black man" in the GDC talk is turbofucked on its own:
- Those aren't actually angry black man
-you're just assuming those large black man are angry because they are large black man, because you are racist
-YOU CALLED THE SLIDE "WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM ANGRY BLACK MAN" AS IF THEY ARE CHASING YOU.
and you can do this shit for every single facet of this shit its horrifyingly amazing.
@@SeekSeekLest Thank you, I'm adopting this phrase.
We NEED to get away from angry black man. He is two hundred meters from our location and approaching RAPIDLY.
@@Faegbeard This feels like a quote comment I'd see under a Ghost Stories clip
Why are you complaining about a slide that agrees with you??
Every reason this tool exists is to cater to you.
It's not that bad.
40:12 "I want to know who decided a robot is a top of the list on diversity."
Obviously the robot who made this system. Robots are superior to humans in every way, including ethnically.
I for one welcome our new robot overlords
@@darrianweathington1923 That won't save you. Robots can only feel hatred.
@@MostlyPonies1 then we are the same, and hopefully we can work together and they can kill me last
@@MostlyPonies1 That's bigotry against robots! Robots can feel many emotions! Trust me, I have human skin.
From the moment...
I'm always a fan of these situations where people are pulling an Armstrong and going: "I'm being a racist... To END racism!"
"as a business"*
"While you partook in casual racism, I was training for professional racism"
Like an INCOMPETENT Armstrong.
You did racism good, we do racism WELL.
Thats Marxist SJWs for ya
Aw man, I knew the moment I heard Woolie start his Measurehead impression that this was gonna be *great.*
“Alright gamers, you asked for it, so we’ll deliver, let’s rank every race on Tiermaker.”
You really just said that.
@@damonsghost9235good point, the SS joke is gone.
"MUST AVOID ANGRY BLACK MAN" - Noted, I'll stay out of his way.
DO NOT PURSUE ANGRY BLACK MAN
Meanwhile it's just Cole, walking around, being happy, and he's happy to see *you!*
Blizzard releasing the new patch notes for the tier list.
Black is Nerfed
Woman is buffed
latino is nerfed
short is top tier
Arab is second tier
Is there an arab in a non-COD game?
removed infinites from wheelchairs.
5'11 people OUR TIME HAS COME! LET NO ANKLE ESCAPE UNBITTEN!
@@cybercop0083 50 cent blood on the sand. GET ME MY SKULL!
'Who decided robots were the highest score' pat the graph was made by a robot. OFC the robot scores highest.
ZAUM somehow managed to create the most relevant racist character in any game.
It's their lucky racist!
not many people are aware of the scientific racist archetype
He's racist in favor of a race he's not part of and a culture he's never been to. It's great.
And with the Final Cut Fascist mission, you find out he has sensible, if sad reason to be a supremacist.
@@Biscotum That's literally just Hitler.
I think the funniest and most insane thing about that graph chart whatever is blizzard implies that things like "ethnicity", and "gender identity" is a straight line, like they're a slider that you can just rise up and down
"if something exists it must be quantifiable and if we can quantify it we can profit of of it" - Acti-Blizz exec
there is no spectrum in a computer, at best you can create the illusion like a camera zoom having over a thousand zoom levels to make it seemless
You're giving me the idea of a character creator in a game that replaces the normal options for customization with a slider that just says "race" or "body type". Actually, I would genuinely be interested in seeing that now...
"There you are, gleefully playing as Reaper. And all of a sudden you are an "angry black man." You didn't ask for this; you didn't choose this. And yet there it is."
How do you even quantify sexual identity? If you’re straight cis, it’s a 0 but if it’s non binary ace, it’s also 0???
Are bisexual half a point or double the point? Are pansexuals like myself just straight (pun not intended) up maxed out stats? Trans women get a buff, but Trans men get nerfed? This is the wildest shit.
Marcus is the angry one in Delta squad, Dom is at first the team player and then later hollowed out with grief, Baird is defensive and always trying to prove himself. Meanwhile Cole is... happy? Kind? Funny? Enthusiastic? They literally could not have gotten it more wrong.
Gears of war bros punching the air rn
I was listening to this while dozing off, trying to get a smidgen of sleep since I couldn't get a single wink last night...and then Woolie called himself a Shiny Rare Black and I just frickin lost it! Damn you, Woolie but also that was the best thing I've heard all week!
A mass of fantastic diversity characters swirls in your head: Transwomen from African nations never before included in vidya with names from the wrong culture, Black Black Irish juggling potatoes, the first offensive stereotype of the Danish conceived since the last time they fought the Prussians. Everything is calm in the eye of the racegraph. Your character concepts are lucid and bright.
How do you even make an offensive Dane???
Here's our Zimbabwe dambe fighter Jollof Maximof and they use an SMG.
Beautiful prose.
@@just_matt214 At one point around the 900's maybe into the 1100's, Danes had the MOST feudalistic autocracies in europe up until a class war errupted between their nobility & the monarchy
I read this in the Disco Elysium narrator's voice. It did not disappoint.
How did we avoid talking about how every racist caricature would rank super high on this?
Now that's a *Mug Moment.*
So you're saying that black dynamite would max out this ranking?
The African Rain Maker guy would rank SO HIGH ON THIS SCALE
@@kylo-benshapiro687 as he should
Watto confirmed new Overwatch character?!?!
The thing that got me, was the mention of getting away from "angry black characters" like Jax and Barrett, TWO CHARACTERS WHO ARE ALSO AMPUTEES.
Depending on which lore you read, be it current or past Jax, before the MK9 Retcon he apparently got his arms purposefully replaced in order to deal with MK3's apocalypse scenario. Not sure if self-amputation is worth the same or less than forced-amputation though.
@@Khotgor Can’t believe they didn’t include Cyrax he’s the Denzel Washington of black cyborgs.
It was five years ago, amputee got buffed in the meanwhile.
But isn’t their anger rather superficial to begin with? Unlike that junkyeard miniboss in Heavy rain?
Woolie shouldve opened to Pat with "A SWORD OF MONSTER ENERGY EMERGES FROM YOUR THROAT."
I appreciated your three-fifths joke Woolie.
“I definitely can understand why so many questions about Winston are raised” is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard with or without the context of this conversation
"A robot is the most diverse a character can be..." omg... it's the literal NPC meme, that is what's most diverse.
"WHATS A 10!?"
"I'LL TELL YOU IN A MINUTE!!"
WE NEED ANSWERS!
"The BORGS must process."
It's the line of the century to talk about higher-ups of a compagny.
God, Mr Plinkett would be like
Age - 10 (Old as shit)
Cognitive Ability - 10 (Clinically insane)
Physical ability - 10 (Wheelchair bound)
Body type - 10 (Obese)
Facial Features / beauty - 10 (Hideous)
Sexual Orientation - Bisexual???? (I think there was a plot-line in which he got married to a volcano god, but that would be using COMPOSITE PLINKETT from both the HitB skits, and the review persona)
Socioeconomic Background could probably be up there? He seems poor as shit, even though those hack frauds are trying to steal all his savings.
This topic must've been a godsend for Woolie, because he loves racism.
*THE RACE WAR START NOW*
He’s the CEO for a reason.
dont we all?
Racism on put on the dissection table is fascinating in its awfulness.
@@li-limandragon9287 It’s like an alien autopsy. You are disgusted, yet fascinated.
At this point, it feels like ActBlizz is actively trying to kill itself while Microsoft is trying to get them
I mean a corpse is easier to obtain than a live body
You'd be surprised how much money you can beat out of a dead corpse
57:28 has got to be the fastest I've ever seen Woolie go from 0 to hyena laugh
Oh my god.
Activision just turned F.A.T.A.L. into a part of their work culture.
Holy fucking shit.
"How dare you, judging people on their inalienable traits"
- Companies (while judging people on their inalienable traits)
“Hey man, I’ll trade you this limited edition OCD Ginger Goblin for your Shiny Rare Black.”
I want to put Blacker Baron into this chart from "Anarchy Reigns" and just watch the computer explode.
Is the „blacker“ aspect a multiplier? Or does it scale exponentially in relation to „black“?
@@cybercop0083
The original Black Baron was actually a White guy in blackface and Blacker Baron was a LITERAL Black guy who took his place in Anarchy Reign.
Jax didn't travel back in time to stop the Atlantic slave trade from happening just to be written off as "Angry Black Man"
17:30
"I am not going to let go of black being a 3"
"Out of 5?"
"Out of 10"
LMAO. Oh man, I saw where you were going, Woolie. It would have been hilarious if, inadvertently or not, they had made reference to the "three fifths of a person" bullshit
Woolie's side of the screen is so saturated it looks like he's broadcasting from the inside of a linen closet.
"one extra black point" isn't something I thought I needed today, and that "shiny rare black man" ended me holy shit
Man, I can't wait for Blizzard to release an eye-color chart
"Barret is actually a sad black man, he's just mad about climate change"
"Ah yes, these women that are in combat sports have UNREALISTIC BODY TYPES" Aight.
For the women of Tekken I do wish that when it came to personality and facial structure that there was some variety; but just like the men on the roster, they are in fighting shape and ready for the next battle
If they wanted to use a fighting game example of unrealistic big tiddy women Mortal Kombat would've made infinitely more sense than Tekken where the women look conventionally attractive but still normal
Bilzzard: These Tekken women have unrealistic bodies.
Me: Looking at Tracer, Widow Maker, D.Va, Mercy, Symmetra. Yes how objectifying of them.
Still no fighting game made after 2000 had an actual buff female I am aware of. You would think that it would be a reasonable design for a fighting game character but no. You have coupla old women, bunch of young women, shitload of slim fit women and zero buff or overweight women.
@@StanNotSoSaint Chun-Li, R.Mika and Cammy say high.
They’re more buff than I’ll ever be.
@@li-limandragon9287 Remember also, Mei being thick under her coat is fan canon and she's actually supposed to have the same body type as Tracer and Mercy and such.
Alright but legit we gotta ask the question: Did Activision drop this to cover up the union shit thinking people would pat them on the back and go "wow I sure love Activision-Blizzard a subsidiary of Microsoft they are so diverse and cool" or did they drop this KNOWING it would be a shitshow that would overshadow the Union stuff in hate?
Abso-frigging-LUTELY the latter imo
Both. Little did they know I can be mad about TWO things at once
@@GIZMONDO987 Trick question! The answer is both. The cover story to appease the Execs was the former. The reality was the latter as directed by the PR 'gurus'.
I think the higher up person was sincerely for this, and the lower level people that have been cringing the entire time from this system thought "oh well, this will make a nice distraction, and maybe we can use this as excuse to kill this system entire".
@@jordanetherington1922 MULTI-TRACK ANGER
This feels like the premise of an Always Sunny episode
ActiBlizzard crawls across the ground, shaved hairless, wearing nothing but a diaper, and entire body slick with lotion.
_"I just want to be PURE...!"_
I'm so glad the Measurehead impression became part of Woolies repertoire
You know what is the saddest thing? That there is non-zero chance that "tools" like this are used on actual real people.
It's called "intersectionality", and has been very popular in corporate and academic circles for years now
It's called an HR department
Its called the woke 21th century western world
@@ricardomilos10 Twenty Firth?
Social Darwinism used to be a thing btw.
The problem is that the idea of representation is divorced from the idea of authenticity. That is why they do not get why diversity in the staff is important. They think that they can be authentic when talking about communities they do not participate it. You hate to see it.
The "Diversity hire" effect - but applied to artistic expression. Shit like this is how we ended up with ghostbusters 2016, and now we have netflix imploding from content backlash.
I mean, you totally could, like most writers, but you'd have to do your homework and not copy from steropedia
I can't believe ActiBlizz funds phrenology studies!
I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic.
It's weirdly believable
@@QuasarKnightGaming woolie should use the Actiblizz Phrenology Chart to determine which race to betray first to get his jetpack
Better than them funding CoD Warzone
@@AG-id8dl he possibly already has, who can say?
Something feels poetically perfect about woolie unintentional repeating variations of "I wanna know, can you show me?"
_I WANNA KNOW ABOUT THESE STRANGERS LIKE ME~_
Honestly with how Silicon Valley culture was for so long, I'm shocked we haven't seen MORE companies talking about their matrices.
woolie and pat's hyena laughter is a blessing
Woolie KILLED the opening of this podcast harder than he had any right to!
That 'am sandwich line had me laughing so had I had to rewind the podcast twice!
Ganondorf is black, ginger, and from an Arabic-inspired culture. Now, the important question is, does him being a man give him minus points, or does the fact that that makes him a minority in his culture give him bonus points? These are the questions that need answers. xD
ganondorf is green not black
i would seriously pay good money to have access to all the scores
blizzard should just sell the program instead of games at this point because i want that more than ive wanted any game they've released in the last decade
I just want to know what's considered a 9 or 10 in the race category, my BIGGEST bet is Native American but I can't say for sure
@@MinorMoments23 Probably Mizrahi Jewish, but I feel like they know that adding a Jew to the character roster will increase the game community's toxicity by a double-digit percentage
Woolie is so rare that someone will go into debt with the Yakuza to roll for him.
To begin game, insert token.
Honestly, I'm starting to feel like Woolie interprets and reacts to racism and bigotry in an inverse way from most human beings.
Like, if he ever stumbled across a literal Klan rally, or sat in on a lecture evangelizing actual eugenics, I think Woolie would achieve peak happiness.
"Starting"
Are you new to this podcast? I mean he has literally said that he enjoys racism on multiple occasions, I'm not paraphrasing.
Edit: I made a separate comment, but I want to make it clear I get where Woolie is coming from and the blunt nature of this comment was mostly a joke in itself.
@@Kango234 in the sense of Racism is the great revealer, showing to the world, that you are a special kind of PoS, he explains this in the disco elysium LP during the racist lorrydriver encounter
Woolie knows what real racism looks like. It's fucking stupid and he loves laughing at the stupid people
@@Kango234 Oh I've been following him for years. I think for a while I thought it was just a bit, or he was kinda playing it up.
But I'm dead convinced now. That man's brain is built differently. Inflicting prejudice on him only makes him stronger.
Because it's the funniest thing when someone is too open about it full confidence not holding back while everyone is just chilling
I knew this was gonna be fire for the podcast.
>ANGRY BLACK MAN (Must avoid!)
>proceeds to put doomfist in the game
That one is CEO Measurehead's self insert
57:22 Woolie's laugh will always make my day
Although both of them are white, woolie's love for funko pops makes him more diverse
The fact that the Overwatch team never wanted or asked for this thing and ABK randomly decided to attribute the nightmare dystopia chart the Candy Crush people made to them just to torpedo whatever little goodwill they have left is so fucking funny. What a bad company.
Wait no I forgot the funniest part is that this is how they quietly drop "Zarya is straight actually"
@@wyrdautumn Was there reason to assume otherwise, outside of unconventional appearance?
@@Canadish overwatch characters get like two characters traits a piece maximum and one of Zarya's is being incredibly butch. It's not a question of unconventional appearance, but of a specific type of presentation that has historically been adopted by and associated with the lesbian community.
Also like wlw latched onto Zarya really hard right from the beginning, because I mean of course we did, they loaded her up with design tropes that appeal to gay women. So using the reveal of your minority power ranking chart to specifically disappoint a marginalized segment of your fanbase is really, really funny.
@@wyrdautumn I dunno about that one, that just seems like ascribing your own projections based on stereotypes?
Seems harmful to be saying all 'butch women = gay' (and thus implying gay = butch).
All straight women being expected to present a certain way doesn't seem like progress, you know?
@@Canadish people come in all shapes and sizes and sexualities and gender presentations and you can certainly be a masculine-looking straight woman but butch lesbians aren't a stereotype, they are a vibrant and important part of lesbian history and the lesbian community. The aesthetic means something, the presentation means something, and erasing the lesbian history and connotation of the butch aesthetic is disingenuous at best and erasure at worst.
Obviously in real life these things get complicated and messy because gender and sexuality and presentation are all murky unquantifiable intensely human & personal subjects. But we're talking about fiction here, and in fiction--yeah any wlw can tell you there's a long history, that continues to this day, of media (especially video games for some reason) aggressively queer-coding women and then going "no homo". And as a queer woman I really don't think "well you shouldn't assume all masc-leaning women are gay just because of how they present" is really a good defense for a company designing a character they have to know will appeal to queer women and then going no homo in the absolute dumbest most back-handed way possible.
It's not that all masculine women have to be gay, it's that no masculine women being gay really starts to make you raise an eyebrow after a while. Tracer and Emily are very much femme 4 femme and that's great, good for them, but like. Where are the butches. Where are they. Let them out.
Wait till wakka sees this.
The sad thing is Wakka would score fairly high himself, not as much as Kimhari.
I feel like Cloud would get at least a 5, he has mental problems and is a cross dresser.
This whole segment was MADE for Woolie
This whole clip in audio form was my drive to and from work today. It made the trip so much fun.
"Listen LISTEN! All I'm saying is we have to create a system by which we can categorize the desirability of minorities based upon their innate characteristics!"
Eugenicist in 1922 or Blizzard employee in 2022? The world my never know.
The answer is both, obviously...
You just can’t write this stuff, ActiBlizz is just that insane
Basically you take the statistically validated IRL race performance metrics, flip them 180 degrees, and you have the Actiblizz diversity and inclusion metric.
Sojourn's been around since the first batch of OW story cinematics, so I doubt they used the tool for her. Her being Canadian was definitely checking off a box, though.
I lost it when I saw someone point out that Goku would score really high on this chart:
Ethnicity: A literal alien
Culture: Member of an almost extinct race, but considers himself Earthling
Ability: Physically disabled due to loss of an appendage (tail), mentally disabled due to head trauma at a young age
Age: Late 40s in the current storyline, the full story ranges from childhood to his 50s
Sexuality: Xenosexual, in a relationship with a female of a different species
Gender: Identifies as male, has cross dressed. Needed to be taught to recognise gender.
Body type: Generally fit and muscular, but varies depending on the form. Was a 50-yr old with the body of a child in GT.
Goku also has heart problems. So he’s 9 at very least.
Vash from Trigun might get even higher since he’s not only a 200 year old often effeminate alien but also an amputee.
Being an alien only counts if the character looks like one. If the majority of people not in the know have to be told then it doesn't matter.
@@damonsghost9235 Having a tail and transforming into a giant monkey when looking at a full moon qualifies as visibly alien traits I'd say
@@damonsghost9235 What of he’s in SS4 mode? Piccolo would definitely be a 9, he wears middle eastern attire too.
@@li-limandragon9287 i think ss4 does well on the list. You might have something with the idea considering robots score so high for some reason. Piccolo in the weighted clothes definitely should score major culture points.
To quote Lisa Simpson: “You’re an evil man, and when you try to be nice, you’re even MORE evil!”
I'm so glad I just watched Disco Elysium so I understand who Woolie is referencing and how hilarious it is
so if post-cranial cyborgs have max diversity points, you’re telling me what I’ve always known in my heart: that Metal Gear Rising is the most diverse video game of all time
Im just happy Woolie gets another chance to speak his ideals on screen again, been along time since disco was back...
You know what good for MEASUREHEAD, he's making his mama proud.
I can guarantee that this was used when they created Sigma, as his design has some of the weird beats of this chart and he had to be done at the last second bc they had to rework his character design/lore (They say Mauga's personality didn't match the kit).
Sigma matches:
Body Type> Extremely tall, arguably the tallest male (yes, even Rein is shorter)
Age> Oldest character in the cast (62)
Cognitive perception> DID / general mental health issues
reminder they made him bare foot to "sell that asylum look"
They put a sigma male in Overwatch
Kinda fucked up how the shiny version of Woolie is just a slightly green version
Right since we have confirmation that Call of Duty has used this skull measuring service I think I should chime in on where exactly I think it influenced the games (or where it didn’t) as the guy trapped in the CoD trenches:
-On the topic of non binary people and men being counted the same, in Black Ops Cold War if you make your create a character non binary your character is counted as male but you no longer make any kind of grunting sound meaning you are male but silent.
-They say they want to “avoid angry black men” one of the few black characters in Cold War is a literal African warlord who talks about stealing things constantly and laments that zombies aren’t scared when he stabs them.
-Vanguard’s black character is angry man who burns people alive, seemingly he may only be black to score the diversity points they lost making him British.
-the sole Japanese character in Cold War is a computer expert, but they gave her an eyepatch so I guess that raised the disability score.
-The Russian faction in Cold War only has 3 Russian members out of about 12 characters, and 2 of them were post launch DLC. Which feels to me like someone going “hey, England is worth more points so just change this guy to British.”
-no “unrealistic body types” but one of the female operators is a skinny lady with almost no muscle definition who wears a catsuit.
-The default American character in Vanguard multiplayer is Japanese-American, which now feels less like a genuine attempt to have a diverse roster and more pandering to the algorithm they built.
-they say they don’t want “unrealistic body types” but they have a 50 year old man in the body of an little 8 year old girl, how’s that a realistic body type? smh
I was about to spend 2 seconds thinking about what you meant by that last one but then I checked who posted it and what do I know! It's my old gaslighting nemesis!
@@cyberninjazero5659 I mean, the last part is true. Black Ops 1 Edward Richtofen swaps bodies with Samantha Maxis who is a little girl. I have gaslit you in the past but that part is 100% true. Richtofen's Grand Scheme look it up
"they have a 50 year old man in the body of an little 8 year old girl"
So...Kum Haeyhun from Guilty Gear but in reverse and the old man's not a robot?
@@leithaziz2716 the 50 year old man is also a Nazi, well technically he's not cause he considers them "too liberal and moral" for his liking. He just likes wearing the uniform. He's also the only major gay rep in the franchise lmfao
Sir what the fuck are you saying
At least Measure head was pro union
To be fair on Torbjorn's height, he isn't just short, he's got dwarfism.
To be fair on Pat's height, he's only 4 inches taller than Torbjorn >_>
If Torbjorn is supposed to have dwarfism, that's fucking gross, because he doesn't resemble any real human being with dwarfism. The proportions of his body are completely wrong for that. He looks like a straight-up fantasy dwarf.
If that's not what Blizzard said, but what you are reading into his design... well, you badly need to educate yourself. Fantasy dwarves don't have anything in common with IRL dwarfs, and most IRL dwarfs find such comparisons incredibly insulting.
@@tbotalpha8133 Dwarfism is defined as just being under 4'10" and can have many causes, and present in different ways. Not all cases of dwarfism arise from disproportionate body parts. There is both proportionate and disproportionate dwarfism. At least, that's what the mayo clinic, webMD, and the NHS have to say on the subject.
@@Vaishino You know what? Fair. I went off half-cocked on that one. I'm sorry.
I want to see this graph but with Punch Out!characters.
This NEEDS TO HAPPEN!
YES 🤣
King Hippo gets maxed out age, body type, and ethnicity scores.
@@ffffffffROTHY Tiger King is up there too.
A full Arcana Heart laugh.
Blizzard had to push out the Eugenics chart to distract from Union busting. It's Fukcin' WYLDE!