Tremendous presentation. Years of information all in one place. There is so much bad info out there. Refreshing to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
Most of what you say is way over my head as a new rifle owner, but I tremendously respect your dedication to your craft. You are a true professional. Major kudos to you, sir. Love your videos.
Desert Dog, this was incredibly helpful. Thank you for putting together such a superb coverage of load development. I hope to see more of these in the future.
I do appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos. You never submit a video without research or hands on experience. Thanks DD, hell your right up there with the greats, IMO.
The redding competition shell holder sets are really handy. The set comes with 5 shell holders with deck heights in +0.002 increments. So you can set the sizing die lock nut to the press bottom out cam over point then adjust shoulder bump by choosing the shell holder that gives you the desired bump clearance. Great product.
Timing of this video was perfect. I'm a long time lightweight magnum load developer and shooter but have been shooting heavyweight, muzzle breaked "sniper" (your term) rifles for the last two years. Today I took my 30-06 and 8 pound 7MM Remington Magnum to the range for a tune up and sight in. The bag squeeze technique and bipod definitely does not work! I needed this reminder from you. This video took a whole lot of time and effort on your part and I applaud you for it and appreciate it.
I just watched this for at least the 10th time! The part at the end about shooting hunting rifles from the bench is right on. I was just watching another channel where the guy was trying to find a load for his .270 WSM. He was shooting in super sniper mode as you describe and his rifle was literally jumping off of the rest because he was barley holding onto it and of course it was spraying bullets all over the target.
deset dog this is the 3rd time I've requested this , because you are the Jack O'Conner of this era ! write a book , you are the man!!! what is youy email we have much to talk about! thank you brother keep the vids commin !!
@@onthebowoftheship44 you and l both and thousands of others he could write on the 30 06 alone and have many newcomers pick up this grand ole cartridge!!
Holy Crap! What was I doing today? Load development on my Steyr 300 H&H, using the same powder and bullet - which you recommended a few months back. I’m also working up a load for the Berger 215 gr. Hybrid to shooting steel at 500 yards. In one hour you pointed out what took me a year to figure out when I first started reloading. Incredibly, I have come to almost all the same conclusions you have, thru trial and error. I also want to thank you immensely for the original video you did on the 300 H&H, and steering me in that direction. On the lookout for a Dakota 76 in 375 H&H, I’m just hoping it has the stopping power as my 270 Win 🤣
I'm not a target shooter but have always been OCD about my hunting loads! I like my hunting rifles to shoot subminute groups. The smaller, the better! My confidence soars when I know that my rifle will shoot better than I can! Besides, the tighter the groups, the more room there is for shooter error! Great Video!
Another great video! This is the same method I’ve been using for years now. The only difference is I use a standing shooting bench and a sand filled shooting bag with a microfiber towel between the bag and my rifle. Also, my shooting bag is usually right under my scope and magazine box. When working up loads I place my hand on top of the scope but once I have a load worked up and am shooting for practice I put my hand in the forearm. I do this because, like you, I always have a pack with me, either my MR Pintler or my MR Metcalf and both use the same frame so I have the same rest no matter which I am carrying at the time. I still use the same method of rifle rest, rest directly under the scope/magazine box because this is usually the balance point of the rifle itself and is much easier to adjust and shift without moving the rifle off the rest keeping undue motion to a minimum. I don’t use shooting sticks but I may use a tree or branch and I never use a bipod. Great work on this video.
Very helpful. Just ordered a VLD chamfer tip in the middle of watching this as I’ve been shaving some bullet while seating. Your real-life advice helps to validate some of my practices, along with some others to help me improve my results. Thanks!
EXCELENT! As allways. Actualy, I myself, learnt a lot. Seating depths... That´s it... now I know what to look for with those norma bondstrikes. Thank tou much for sharing and yes, write a book!!
Thank you for the time you put on getting this video up. It's very helpful for beginners like me. I especially enjoyed the extra tips at the shooting bench.
Outstanding presentation desert dog, your channel has been my number one go to channel! Yes this video was long but let me tell you I did not let anything interrupt me I watch the whole thing straight through! Great job thank you!
Great Video! At 49.00 explains most precision vs accuracy issues. The Ammo and the rifle were the same (precision) the shooters techniques differed(accuracy)... To me, 1/2" to 1 inch groups isn't much different for hunting, where Maximum point blank range and shot placement is paramount.
I appreciate and thank you for putting in the work to produce this video. As a boot reloader it helped me a lot! Your content is always outstanding and no BS and I respect and thank you for that. I load for AR15&10 style rifles for hunting and semi match shooting and much of this I will use myself. Thanks again and keep up the Great work!!
Thumbs up for this vid! Kind of long but I enjoyed every minute of it. Concerning size die set-up, I have a standard shellholder (usually RCBS) firmly touching the die bottom, with a little cam-over. Then I can always return to "zero" if I need to. From there, I use the Redding Competition Shellholder Set to adjust shoulder bump where I want it. If I'm working with a case that I don't have a RCSS for, I use my set of machined flat washers from Skip's Machine out of Grand Junction, CO. that I place under the die lockring. Re: shooting groups with a hunting rifle, I take the damn sling off, 'cause if you ain't hunting, you don't need it on. That's why "quick detachable " slings were invented. Great vid, DD.
Desert Dog, I can't thank you enough. I've been flirting with Satterlee's method, but didn't like the 10rd string for statistical analysis. You're method makes more sense. Also, I always assumed the 3 thou seating depth tests wouldnt be beneficial in a standard hunting rifle - WOW! You have cleared so many doubts from my mind and really set me down the right path. I've burned a lot of components learning the hard way, but your video combining hunting loads with precision technique is going to save me a lot of time, effort, and resources. Thank you!
I've had good luck loading for accuracy by finding the accurate charge at max magazine length, then seating the bullets deeper by .003"... My 30-06 shoots a 0.7" group with the Barnes 168 grain TTSX at 100 yards. 2900 FPS with IMR 4064... There are probably better ways, but this way works for me.
Brilliant video as always, thank you, this video gave me great great information that is I would not have found on other you tube channels or internet sites. Can you do a video about pressure signs on load development in the future please.
DD thanks for the lecture on shell holder deck height. I do have two calibers but have never checked deck height with them that I can remember. I will incorporate which shell holder I use in my LOGBOOK. I think the use of a LOGBOOK is as important as any other step. The section on holding the fore end of the stock is I think the way to shoot a hunting rifle. Very helpful , thank you for sharing..
Man I have learned so much. My hunting rifle will be Winchester Model 70... I will go with the Sporter in 30.06... Thank You Desert Dog. Ive always wanted to reload as well but we will see if I get there. I have hunted with my AK-47 iron sights on the ground in a ground blind made out of foliage and palm fronds. Don't even really need a 30.06 because I am in Florida/ Louisiana and Georgia. Mainly Florida so yeah not too long shots and sometimes in a canoe. Anyway... Thank you for the video.
It’s amazing how much the bullet and the weight of the powder charge can make a difference even just a grain. And we’re talking rifle to rifle in the same make and model. Neck tension is usually where I find the biggest issue from one load to the next not getting a consistent pressure when setting my bullets and doing any sort of crimp work
Thank you for this demonstration. I have a 30-06 that I would like to load for. I have only loading shotgun in the past for a trap league. I'm currently engaged in purchasing equipment and components. I'm almost there, but I feel this will be a never ending accumulation!!! 😄 I'm excited and definitely committed. I look forward to improving my shooting techniques, because I'm not past thinking that I'm "more than likely" the weakest link here.
Great content, bumping the shoulders I noticed I actually need to back my die out 1/2 turn sometimes. Siting at a bench I also use the grip on the fore end to mimic hunting which is standing or sitting. Never had a problem with groupings due to those techniques. Load development is just as much as fun as the hunting, the learned techniques and special attention to each rifle is something I look forward too. Since I was young I’ve actually never taken any big game worth factory ammo as I do enjoy rolling my own and fine tuning the results I want. Thanks for the good video
I'm new to handloading and have watched and read so many videos read so many articles on the subject that my brain is swimming. Thank you for your straight forward easy to understand videos and explanation of proper handloading techniques and shooting techniques. I'm trying to develop accurate dependable hunting loads for my weatherby vanguard s2 in 30-06 that I've had a custom Bartlien sporter B barrel put on it. What a process. At least after watching and listening to your videos I know that I'm doing somethings right. I have the same press that you're using, MEC marksman, magneto speed chronograph, forster dies. Just trying to learn how to use all your reloading tools properly and being consistent with everything you do is a learning curve, but I knew it would be. After loading and testing about 200 loads I think that l might of found something. I know you're probably laughing and shaking your head, but I'm just learning. Useing superformance powder @ 61.8gr, 165gr sst bullets,@ .007 off the lands lapua brass, Fed gold med primers seems to be the sweet spot. Heading back to the range next week with 30 rounds of this recipe and shoot 10 shot groups @ 100 ,200 ,and 300 yards. Wish me luck I'll sure need it. Thanks again for your great video and information.
What's the point of tumbling the brass? I learned a ton from this video so far. You pack so much good info in your videos, takes a lot of patience, thank you sir.
Dirty brass leads to inconsistent readings for head space, OD and neck wall thickness measurements. Plus it will mar the inside of your chamber and your dies.
Hey Man…awesome video! I don’t know squat about reloading but I have been leaning more and more toward beginning. My primary purpose is that I can’t find ammo on the shelf that had the bullets that I would prefer (Primarily Nosler Partition). In addition, while I can get sub MOA groups at 100 yards, I feel that I’m leaving some accuracy on the table with factory ammo. Although I’ve never reloaded, I think you and I have a similar character trait…I really enjoy “tweaking” on my passions/hobbies. Meaning, maybe a little OCD, but love to chase the proverbial rabbit down the hole. There will be a ton of stuff to learn but am definitely looking forward to expanding my shooting “analness”!!!
I do hunt bears; usually while or after I fill my deer tag. I really don't personally like hunting bears over bait or from a blind. I like going out and glassing them, then putting on a stalk. Those noses are REALLY hard to fool, and bears keep your skills sharp.
I was thinking this morning that another DD video would be great, sometime wishes do come true. Did I understand correctly that you do not use an expander ball when resizing or did I miss something? As far as the vertical stringing issue goes I can confirm your theory when shooting free recoil. Took a lot of .338 and 375 ammunition to figure that out. Kind of had a smile on my face when you mentioned it. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Have a great day and be safe!
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 - I’m using 21st Century Expander Mandrels. Was using Redding Type S with bushings, but never with expander ball. Had the same issue bumping back the necks .002” as you mentioned, so I had to grind down the shell holder. You can also trim the die a few thousandths on a lathe. DD, I’ve been using the Larry Willis collet die to resize belted magnums, after I FL resize. It’s awesome! As you mentioned, the 300 H&H doesn’t seem to have the same bulging problems above the belt like other magnums. Thanks for sharing load data.
@@falba1492 I agree... Larry Willis' belted magnum collet die is a real game changer for resizing belted magnum cases! The same way that bushings can not size the neck completely to the neck shoulder junction a FL sizing die can not size all the way to the belt. After a few firings it becomes impossible to bump the case shoulders back consistently. Frank.. I use the collet die on the belt BEFORE I screw in the FL die. This allows the die to come to work the case completely. Try it.
Hi desert dog. Will you make a series of videos on reloading from beginning to pro level please... So many videos out there and so much info that contradict each other. We trust you and wish to learn from you only. Thank you.
Thanks for the info. Your not anal. Your process can mean the difference between taking the trophy of a lifetime and or watching it run away... Regarding holding the fore-end, Nathan Foster of Ballistic Research Studies in New Zealand has an excellent article on his Web page on the subject. Well worth the read and reinforces what you said. Cheers!
Total common sense and sounds like a lot of experience. How did you get where you are today? Might be an interesting video. :How did Desert Dog start out".. Just a thought.
As a new Reloader I really appreciate this informative video. It was very helpful. I recently just started reloading with this in depth technique. I have found a few good loads so far. I have one question though. If you find a good hunting load that won’t fit in the magazine because of oal what do you recommend? Have you noticed a drastic accuracy difference between seating to mag length vs seating to what the rifle prefers?
You said 30-06 is the most versatile calibre and I think a lot of would agree that the Winchester Model 70 would be the rifle of choice, but what would be the most versatile barrel length? Would you opt for the standard 24” or go down to a 22” or up to a 25”? Would like to know your thoughts on this.
Depends on the cartridge. A cartridge that's overbore loaded to the neck with slow powder is gonna need a long barrel. A 45-70 is going to like short barrels. For 30-06, I get my custom barrels made at 23". Keeps great velocity and doesn't get in the way. But a 22 or 24" barrel wouldn't bother me either at ethical hunting distances.
I don't think the shell holder is the problem... usually when u are sizing fireformed brass for a .002 bump you run the die to touch the shell holder then back off 1 full turn so you are not bumping the shoulder on the first stroke... and it will grow like u said from there u just simply make small adjustments to the die untill it touches the shoulder and using the comparator use super small turns and get that.002 bump ... you done need to worry about the shell holder touching the die or caming your just looking for that .002 bump ... but it will definitely grow first u just need to keep screwing the die down very slowly and checking the comparator 👍
The problem is 10000% shell holder. Very common issue with custom barrels with tight spec chambers. Without the bump, the brass is tough to chamber. Also, commercial die specs are all over the place and some will never size without a shell holder with a lower deck height. I have seen this countless times.
DD- In many of my rifles, I am constricted by the length of the magazine in relation to COAL. Many times the difference between the jam point and the mag measurement are pretty significant. I'm a hunter, so single feeding rounds is not an option I'm wiling to choose. You've shown that excess jump has the potential to reduce velocity. What is a guy to do when his starting point due to mag length is already .075-.125 off the lands? Seems like I'm between a rock and hard place.
A little overkill for everything but Eland, but it will work great. Lots of Americans bring 338 win mag. If you shoot your 30-06 or 308 better, you might enjoy that more.
Great video! Have you happened to try Peterson brass? I have had excellent results with it also, and find it as good as lapua. Ive only used it in my target rifle, a 6.5 creedmoor using Peterson SRP brass. I have one lot number with 19 firings on it, and have yet to loose a piece to loose primer pockets. I will says it quite heavier than the lapua and has less capacity, but it has been fantastic for me. Always enjoy your videos, and thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
I have not used it, but will try to acquire some of their match brass for 6mmDasher once my current supply gets low; it's actually cheaper than Norma Brass or making it from Lapua brass. Then again, I just don't have the motivation for shooting comps like I did in the past. The great thing about Nosler (from a hunter's perspective), is that they make brass for non-common cartridges like 300H&H, 35 Whelen; and offer A-Square and Ackley Improved brass. The last couple times I tried to stray away from Lapua/Norma/Nosler brass, I regretted it; the lots of Starline and Alpha Munitions brass I got were pretty bad by "high-grade brass" standards. Peterson Brass does seem to have very positive reviews, and its made in the USA, so I will definitely try it out.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 i have never used nosler brass, but I've heard nothing but great things from them. Lapua is always great. And I use norma in my 9.3x62, and their 416 taylor brass i use to fire form into my 416 taylor improved. Been trying to get my hands on some norma brass for my 416 remington magnum, but can't find any on stock. So using hornady brass in that one so far, which has been working quite well. Hopefully I can snag some norma brass for it eventually
Bolt Action did an extensive comparison between Peterson and Lapua, and the Lapua was just a tad bit better. I’ve used both, especially when Peterson came out with 270 Win brass. I also got some for my kids 6.5 CM, and 240 Win. Honestly it’s great stuff. It comes in its own ammo box ($5 value), and the necks are perfect. When ever possible, buy American.
Iv done that satterley test and every single time you run that test the flat spots are in a different place they are constantly moving wondering why I looked into this more and Hornady has a great podcast on this and they complete debunk the satterly test and say it is completly worthless because the flat spots are always moving due to despersion same thing I found when running multiple satterly test so iv went back to ladder tests at 1000 yards on calm days!!
POINT #1: Don't listen to Hornady. POINT #2: If you watch and pay attention to this video, you'll see that I use 3 shots per powder charge. POINT #3: Almost every successful competition shooter uses this to find powder nodes.
Very good video! Hey question, I like that concentricity gauge you have. I have a RCBS that’s very awkward to use and looking to replace it. Yours looks very easy and ergonomically designed. If you get a chance, would you let us know what brand it is? Would really appreciate it. Cheers
great info and great video but im low tech i use my elbows on my thigh in the sitting position for precision or i shoot offhand always no support because i train how i shoot and i cant prone out anymore i had broken spine years back so i adapt
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 oh hell no i mean in the field like when im at the range or out in the woods thats too inconsistant for reloading and load development yeah i dont always get my words right when typing
Tremendous presentation. Years of information all in one place. There is so much bad info out there. Refreshing to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
I've reloaded for over 50 years and I'm thankful and humbled by your knowledge and experience. Thanks for sharing with this old dog👍
Incredible, its a science and an art. I learned more than I knew and know there is so much more to learn! Can't wait to make my first loads
I like that this video is set up as tips here and there instead of a how-to video. Perfect for the novice reloader.
Most of what you say is way over my head as a new rifle owner, but I tremendously respect your dedication to your craft. You are a true professional. Major kudos to you, sir. Love your videos.
Absolutely without a doubt one of the best videos on the subject. I will watch this many times over to glean the subtleties from it.
Here I thought I had reloading mastered. Thanks for showing me I have lot to learn. Thank you Sir.
Desert Dog, this was incredibly helpful. Thank you for putting together such a superb coverage of load development. I hope to see more of these in the future.
Thank you for the compliment and the contribution.
I do appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos. You never submit a video without research or hands on experience. Thanks DD, hell your right up there with the greats, IMO.
The redding competition shell holder sets are really handy.
The set comes with 5 shell holders with deck heights in +0.002 increments. So you can set the sizing die lock nut to the press bottom out cam over point then adjust shoulder bump by choosing the shell holder that gives you the desired bump clearance.
Great product.
You, sir, are indeed generous, and we are obliged.
Whole heartedly agree
Timing of this video was perfect. I'm a long time lightweight magnum load developer and shooter but have been shooting heavyweight, muzzle breaked "sniper" (your term) rifles for the last two years. Today I took my 30-06 and 8 pound 7MM Remington Magnum to the range for a tune up and sight in. The bag squeeze technique and bipod definitely does not work! I needed this reminder from you. This video took a whole lot of time and effort on your part and I applaud you for it and appreciate it.
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Let me know if you're ever in Fairbanks, I'll buy you a beer. Love the channel, thank you for your knowledge.
I just watched this for at least the 10th time! The part at the end about shooting hunting rifles from the bench is right on. I was just watching another channel where the guy was trying to find a load for his .270 WSM. He was shooting in super sniper mode as you describe and his rifle was literally jumping off of the rest because he was barley holding onto it and of course it was spraying bullets all over the target.
deset dog this is the 3rd time I've requested this , because you are the Jack O'Conner of this era ! write a book , you are the man!!! what is youy email we have much to talk about! thank you brother keep the vids commin !!
as far as info on the 30 06 he is dead on , people if you want to learn old school ! please listen ! doesn't get any better than this!
Seconded. Dude runs laps around many contemporary professional gun and hunting writers. I'd buy any book of his in a second.
@@onthebowoftheship44 you and l both and thousands of others he could write on the 30 06 alone and have many newcomers pick up this grand ole cartridge!!
A wealth of knowledge for handloaders . Your videos are a education in hunting and shooting. Thank you Sir.
Holy Crap! What was I doing today? Load development on my Steyr 300 H&H, using the same powder and bullet - which you recommended a few months back. I’m also working up a load for the Berger 215 gr. Hybrid to shooting steel at 500 yards. In one hour you pointed out what took me a year to figure out when I first started reloading. Incredibly, I have come to almost all the same conclusions you have, thru trial and error. I also want to thank you immensely for the original video you did on the 300 H&H, and steering me in that direction. On the lookout for a Dakota 76 in 375 H&H, I’m just hoping it has the stopping power as my 270 Win 🤣
Spot on as always! Thank you for all that you do!
I'm not a target shooter but have always been OCD about my hunting loads! I like my hunting rifles to shoot subminute groups. The smaller, the better! My confidence soars when I know that my rifle will shoot better than I can! Besides, the tighter the groups, the more room there is for shooter error! Great Video!
Presentation, clearly and loudly explained so that everyone can understand, all my compliments to you.
Excellent
Love it man!! Good stuff, always good to see other folks technics
Thanks for the reloading video I have been reloading for about 15 years and I picked up some new tricks Thank you and good hunting
Another great video! This is the same method I’ve been using for years now. The only difference is I use a standing shooting bench and a sand filled shooting bag with a microfiber towel between the bag and my rifle. Also, my shooting bag is usually right under my scope and magazine box. When working up loads I place my hand on top of the scope but once I have a load worked up and am shooting for practice I put my hand in the forearm. I do this because, like you, I always have a pack with me, either my MR Pintler or my MR Metcalf and both use the same frame so I have the same rest no matter which I am carrying at the time. I still use the same method of rifle rest, rest directly under the scope/magazine box because this is usually the balance point of the rifle itself and is much easier to adjust and shift without moving the rifle off the rest keeping undue motion to a minimum. I don’t use shooting sticks but I may use a tree or branch and I never use a bipod.
Great work on this video.
Very helpful. Just ordered a VLD chamfer tip in the middle of watching this as I’ve been shaving some bullet while seating. Your real-life advice helps to validate some of my practices, along with some others to help me improve my results. Thanks!
Once again, another fabulous video. Thank you
A really informative video, appreciate the tips on shooting from the bench.
EXCELENT! As allways. Actualy, I myself, learnt a lot. Seating depths... That´s it... now I know what to look for with those norma bondstrikes. Thank tou much for sharing and yes, write a book!!
Thank you for the time you put on getting this video up. It's very helpful for beginners like me. I especially enjoyed the extra tips at the shooting bench.
Man, one of the very best videos. Your videos have really helped me. I need to fall back and regroup my set up.
Thanks
Outstanding presentation desert dog, your channel has been my number one go to channel! Yes this video was long but let me tell you I did not let anything interrupt me I watch the whole thing straight through! Great job thank you!
Great Video! At 49.00 explains most precision vs accuracy issues. The Ammo and the rifle were the same (precision) the shooters techniques differed(accuracy)... To me, 1/2" to 1 inch groups isn't much different for hunting, where Maximum point blank range and shot placement is paramount.
Came for the short stayed for the long some very insightful info for the up and coming reloaders out their good stuff mate 🥂
I appreciate and thank you for putting in the work to produce this video. As a boot reloader it helped me a lot! Your content is always outstanding and no BS and I respect and thank you for that. I load for AR15&10 style rifles for hunting and semi match shooting and much of this I will use myself. Thanks again and keep up the Great work!!
Thank you, Sir! It would save me hundreds of dollars on components if I found this video earlier!
Thumbs up for this vid! Kind of long but I enjoyed every minute of it. Concerning size die set-up, I have a standard shellholder (usually RCBS) firmly touching the die bottom, with a little cam-over. Then I can always return to "zero" if I need to. From there, I use the Redding Competition Shellholder Set to adjust shoulder bump where I want it. If I'm working with a case that I don't have a RCSS for, I use my set of machined flat washers from Skip's Machine out of Grand Junction, CO. that I place under the die lockring. Re: shooting groups with a hunting rifle, I take the damn sling off, 'cause if you ain't hunting, you don't need it on. That's why "quick detachable " slings were invented. Great vid, DD.
You're the Stevie Ray Vaughan of shooting sports. Thanks for another awesome VDO!
Desert Dog, I can't thank you enough. I've been flirting with Satterlee's method, but didn't like the 10rd string for statistical analysis. You're method makes more sense. Also, I always assumed the 3 thou seating depth tests wouldnt be beneficial in a standard hunting rifle - WOW! You have cleared so many doubts from my mind and really set me down the right path. I've burned a lot of components learning the hard way, but your video combining hunting loads with precision technique is going to save me a lot of time, effort, and resources. Thank you!
I've had good luck loading for accuracy by finding the accurate charge at max magazine length, then seating the bullets deeper by .003"... My 30-06 shoots a 0.7" group with the Barnes 168 grain TTSX at 100 yards. 2900 FPS with IMR 4064... There are probably better ways, but this way works for me.
Thanks For This Excellent Video. The Bench Shooting Part at the End Is Priceless.
Brilliant video as always, thank you, this video gave me great great information that is I would not have found on other you tube channels or internet sites.
Can you do a video about pressure signs on load development in the future please.
DD thanks for the lecture on shell holder deck height. I do have two calibers but have never checked deck height with them that I can remember. I will incorporate which shell holder I use in my LOGBOOK. I think the use of a LOGBOOK is as important as any other step. The section on holding the fore end of the stock is I think the way to shoot a hunting rifle. Very helpful , thank you for sharing..
Thank you for your time and input to putting this video together. Some great information in this
Man I have learned so much. My hunting rifle will be Winchester Model 70... I will go with the Sporter in 30.06... Thank You Desert Dog. Ive always wanted to reload as well but we will see if I get there. I have hunted with my AK-47 iron sights on the ground in a ground blind made out of foliage and palm fronds. Don't even really need a 30.06 because I am in Florida/ Louisiana and Georgia. Mainly Florida so yeah not too long shots and sometimes in a canoe. Anyway... Thank you for the video.
It’s amazing how much the bullet and the weight of the powder charge can make a difference even just a grain. And we’re talking rifle to rifle in the same make and model. Neck tension is usually where I find the biggest issue from one load to the next not getting a consistent pressure when setting my bullets and doing any sort of crimp work
Moving to expander mandrels completely removed the neck tension variable from my loading process. Try it out!
Thank you for this demonstration. I have a 30-06 that I would like to load for. I have only loading shotgun in the past for a trap league. I'm currently engaged in purchasing equipment and components. I'm almost there, but I feel this will be a never ending accumulation!!! 😄
I'm excited and definitely committed. I look forward to improving my shooting techniques, because I'm not past thinking that I'm "more than likely" the weakest link here.
Tons of good info. Even a old guy learned something. A zone wilderness, stinky water.
Great content, bumping the shoulders I noticed I actually need to back my die out 1/2 turn sometimes.
Siting at a bench I also use the grip on the fore end to mimic hunting which is standing or sitting. Never had a problem with groupings due to those techniques.
Load development is just as much as fun as the hunting, the learned techniques and special attention to each rifle is something I look forward too.
Since I was young I’ve actually never taken any big game worth factory ammo as I do enjoy rolling my own and fine tuning the results I want.
Thanks for the good video
Yes, I did learn a few things. Thanks
Thanks for all the practical advice.
Very informative, thanks for the tips!
Thank you,
Learning,,, what a great job!
I'm new to handloading and have watched and read so many videos read so many articles on the subject that my brain is swimming. Thank you for your straight forward easy to understand videos and explanation of proper handloading techniques and shooting techniques. I'm trying to develop accurate dependable hunting loads for my weatherby vanguard s2 in 30-06 that I've had a custom Bartlien sporter B barrel put on it. What a process. At least after watching and listening to your videos I know that I'm doing somethings right. I have the same press that you're using, MEC marksman, magneto speed chronograph, forster dies. Just trying to learn how to use all your reloading tools properly and being consistent with everything you do is a learning curve, but I knew it would be. After loading and testing about 200 loads I think that l might of found something. I know you're probably laughing and shaking your head, but I'm just learning. Useing superformance powder @ 61.8gr, 165gr sst bullets,@ .007 off the lands lapua brass, Fed gold med primers seems to be the sweet spot. Heading back to the range next week with 30 rounds of this recipe and shoot 10 shot groups @ 100 ,200 ,and 300 yards. Wish me luck I'll sure need it. Thanks again for your great video and information.
It's a great pastime ...kept me out of a lot of trouble over the years!
Great job, thanks for putting the effort into putting this together
Enjoyed the video just starting out reloading glad I found your site
What's the point of tumbling the brass? I learned a ton from this video so far. You pack so much good info in your videos, takes a lot of patience, thank you sir.
You should always run only clean/smooth brass through your dies and rifle chamber.
Dirty brass leads to inconsistent readings for head space, OD and neck wall thickness measurements. Plus it will mar the inside of your chamber and your dies.
Hey Man…awesome video!
I don’t know squat about reloading but I have been leaning more and more toward beginning.
My primary purpose is that I can’t find ammo on the shelf that had the bullets that I would prefer (Primarily Nosler Partition). In addition, while I can get sub MOA groups at 100 yards, I feel that I’m leaving some accuracy on the table with factory ammo.
Although I’ve never reloaded, I think you and I have a similar character trait…I really enjoy “tweaking” on my passions/hobbies. Meaning, maybe a little OCD, but love to chase the proverbial rabbit down the hole.
There will be a ton of stuff to learn but am definitely looking forward to expanding my shooting “analness”!!!
A true ethical hunter here
Finaly had to review your effort. Got more from it . Appreciated it b.c. of the depth of it. Doubt you read comments two later.
THis was a very usefull video. Tx!
I have learn alot from your videos... Thank you for sharing! I would like to see a video on shooting technique.
Awesome video thanks! Wish I could've seen this 15 years ago lol!
as always, very worthful informations 👍
Another awesome video, can you do more videos on big bore reloading. Do you hunt bear?
I do hunt bears; usually while or after I fill my deer tag. I really don't personally like hunting bears over bait or from a blind. I like going out and glassing them, then putting on a stalk. Those noses are REALLY hard to fool, and bears keep your skills sharp.
I was thinking this morning that another DD video would be great, sometime wishes do come true. Did I understand correctly that you do not use an expander ball when resizing or did I miss something? As far as the vertical stringing issue goes I can confirm your theory when shooting free recoil. Took a lot of .338 and 375 ammunition to figure that out. Kind of had a smile on my face when you mentioned it. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Have a great day and be safe!
You heard correctly; I don't use expander balls in my dies. I use expander mandrels and set neck tension as a separate step.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 Oh, OK thanks, something new to look into.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 - I’m using 21st Century Expander Mandrels. Was using Redding Type S with bushings, but never with expander ball. Had the same issue bumping back the necks .002” as you mentioned, so I had to grind down the shell holder. You can also trim the die a few thousandths on a lathe.
DD, I’ve been using the Larry Willis collet die to resize belted magnums, after I FL resize. It’s awesome! As you mentioned, the 300 H&H doesn’t seem to have the same bulging problems above the belt like other magnums. Thanks for sharing load data.
@@johnmollet2637 - It overworks the brass.
@@falba1492 I agree... Larry Willis' belted magnum collet die is a real game changer for resizing belted magnum cases! The same way that bushings can not size the neck completely to the neck shoulder junction a FL sizing die can not size all the way to the belt. After a few firings it becomes impossible to bump the case shoulders back consistently. Frank.. I use the collet die on the belt BEFORE I screw in the FL die. This allows the die to come to work the case completely. Try it.
Hi desert dog. Will you make a series of videos on reloading from beginning to pro level please... So many videos out there and so much info that contradict each other. We trust you and wish to learn from you only. Thank you.
Thanks. Nice video!
Thanks for the info. Your not anal. Your process can mean the difference between taking the trophy of a lifetime and or watching it run away...
Regarding holding the fore-end, Nathan Foster of Ballistic Research Studies in New Zealand has an excellent article on his Web page on the subject. Well worth the read and reinforces what you said.
Cheers!
Awesome video!
Thank you so much for this video!!
Dam good Video. Very accurate and polished. Thanks!
Reloading ammo reminds me SO much of making arrows.
Great information Much appreciated!
This was awesome.. thank you.
GREAT INFO!!!👍
Total common sense and sounds like a lot of experience. How did you get where you are today? Might be an interesting video. :How did Desert Dog start out".. Just a thought.
I don't like most videos on YOU TUBE. But I sure LIKE YOURS!
Thanks!
Thanks
As a new Reloader I really appreciate this informative video. It was very helpful. I recently just started reloading with this in depth technique. I have found a few good loads so far.
I have one question though. If you find a good hunting load that won’t fit in the magazine because of oal what do you recommend? Have you noticed a drastic accuracy difference between seating to mag length vs seating to what the rifle prefers?
Thanks for the video, just what I needed, (without knowing I needed)
The mustard, is the best part😂
Love my Magneto V3 , too late to buy LabRadar now !
This video explains why after I FL size my brass it’s either back to zero or in the negatives
Glad I could help.
You said 30-06 is the most versatile calibre and I think a lot of would agree that the Winchester Model 70 would be the rifle of choice, but what would be the most versatile barrel length? Would you opt for the standard 24” or go down to a 22” or up to a 25”? Would like to know your thoughts on this.
Depends on the cartridge. A cartridge that's overbore loaded to the neck with slow powder is gonna need a long barrel. A 45-70 is going to like short barrels. For 30-06, I get my custom barrels made at 23". Keeps great velocity and doesn't get in the way. But a 22 or 24" barrel wouldn't bother me either at ethical hunting distances.
great video
I Like the Beretta cap 👌
I’d like to know what your preferred load is with the Barnes 140 TTSX or 139 LRX for the 7mm REM Mag? Great video!
That MEC looks sweet!
It's a great press!
Read a lot of the comments and their correct, you really should write a book, actually several books...
I don't think the shell holder is the problem... usually when u are sizing fireformed brass for a .002 bump you run the die to touch the shell holder then back off 1 full turn so you are not bumping the shoulder on the first stroke... and it will grow like u said from there u just simply make small adjustments to the die untill it touches the shoulder and using the comparator use super small turns and get that.002 bump ... you done need to worry about the shell holder touching the die or caming your just looking for that .002 bump ... but it will definitely grow first u just need to keep screwing the die down very slowly and checking the comparator 👍
The problem is 10000% shell holder. Very common issue with custom barrels with tight spec chambers. Without the bump, the brass is tough to chamber. Also, commercial die specs are all over the place and some will never size without a shell holder with a lower deck height. I have seen this countless times.
DD- In many of my rifles, I am constricted by the length of the magazine in relation to COAL. Many times the difference between the jam point and the mag measurement are pretty significant. I'm a hunter, so single feeding rounds is not an option I'm wiling to choose. You've shown that excess jump has the potential to reduce velocity. What is a guy to do when his starting point due to mag length is already .075-.125 off the lands? Seems like I'm between a rock and hard place.
Your Great
Thanks for the awesome videos! What are your thoughts on the 338 win mag for African plains game?
A little overkill for everything but Eland, but it will work great. Lots of Americans bring 338 win mag. If you shoot your 30-06 or 308 better, you might enjoy that more.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 awesome! Thank you, I think I’ll probably just stick to the good old 30-06
Great video! Have you happened to try Peterson brass? I have had excellent results with it also, and find it as good as lapua. Ive only used it in my target rifle, a 6.5 creedmoor using Peterson SRP brass. I have one lot number with 19 firings on it, and have yet to loose a piece to loose primer pockets. I will says it quite heavier than the lapua and has less capacity, but it has been fantastic for me. Always enjoy your videos, and thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
I have not used it, but will try to acquire some of their match brass for 6mmDasher once my current supply gets low; it's actually cheaper than Norma Brass or making it from Lapua brass. Then again, I just don't have the motivation for shooting comps like I did in the past.
The great thing about Nosler (from a hunter's perspective), is that they make brass for non-common cartridges like 300H&H, 35 Whelen; and offer A-Square and Ackley Improved brass.
The last couple times I tried to stray away from Lapua/Norma/Nosler brass, I regretted it; the lots of Starline and Alpha Munitions brass I got were pretty bad by "high-grade brass" standards. Peterson Brass does seem to have very positive reviews, and its made in the USA, so I will definitely try it out.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 i have never used nosler brass, but I've heard nothing but great things from them. Lapua is always great. And I use norma in my 9.3x62, and their 416 taylor brass i use to fire form into my 416 taylor improved. Been trying to get my hands on some norma brass for my 416 remington magnum, but can't find any on stock. So using hornady brass in that one so far, which has been working quite well. Hopefully I can snag some norma brass for it eventually
Bolt Action did an extensive comparison between Peterson and Lapua, and the Lapua was just a tad bit better. I’ve used both, especially when Peterson came out with 270 Win brass. I also got some for my kids 6.5 CM, and 240 Win. Honestly it’s great stuff. It comes in its own ammo box ($5 value), and the necks are perfect. When ever possible, buy American.
Iv done that satterley test and every single time you run that test the flat spots are in a different place they are constantly moving wondering why I looked into this more and Hornady has a great podcast on this and they complete debunk the satterly test and say it is completly worthless because the flat spots are always moving due to despersion same thing I found when running multiple satterly test so iv went back to ladder tests at 1000 yards on calm days!!
POINT #1: Don't listen to Hornady.
POINT #2: If you watch and pay attention to this video, you'll see that I use 3 shots per powder charge.
POINT #3: Almost every successful competition shooter uses this to find powder nodes.
Very good video! Hey question, I like that concentricity gauge you have. I have a RCBS that’s very awkward to use and looking to replace it. Yours looks very easy and ergonomically designed. If you get a chance, would you let us know what brand it is? Would really appreciate it. Cheers
great info and great video but im low tech i use my elbows on my thigh in the sitting position for precision or i shoot offhand always no support because i train how i shoot and i cant prone out anymore i had broken spine years back so i adapt
I hope you don't shoot like that for groups during load development.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 oh hell no i mean in the field like when im at the range or out in the woods thats too inconsistant for reloading and load development yeah i dont always get my words right when typing
I only neck resize because I only reload for 1 rifle, and I use molybdenum graphite grease to resize.
I think too many go past accuracy load , in search of more power .
With proper load development, you can usually get both.
I've also had cases come out longer after resizing, I've wondered if the case gets stretched when the sizing button comes back through the case mouth.