It was stated in the comics that the world he experienced was very much real and Mark had to choose if he wanted to continue that world with all of his knowledge of the past or go back to the present
My head canon is that the entity didn't actually send him to the last but rather was a parasite that was feedings on him and it made him believe that he was in the past so he wouldn't fight back and when it started to lose control she seemingly gave him the choice of either leave or stay and him deciding to leave is a metaphor for the parasite loosing control on mark
That's funny... imagine your way out is by crying like a bitch in your bedroom. Also yeah, Oliver is just gonna give up on his brother for 5 years not having searched the planet to make 1000% sure he hadn't spatially disappeared or was sitting in a cave with a tentacles parasite covering his face
First few years are overrated let’s be honest nobody remembers anything before the age of 5 except maybe the odd traumatic memory and he’s gonna have thousands of years with her
@@StrykeSZN and why do you think that is, she didn’t have a father for the first 5 years of her life. this is why it matters, she would be a completely different person
“How can we fuck Mark’s life beyond repair and permanently traumatize him while also making sure his significant others hate him and blame him for it with little to no sympathy whatsoever today?” - Robert Kirkman every time he got bored
Invincible is written the way spiderman would be if it was done by competent writers. They send him through hell constantly, but always manage to give him people in his corner that love him at the end of the day
The problem of Spider Man is not bad writers. It’s that Marvel (and DC too) will never finish their comics, because they need a constant selling material. And so Spider Man keeps suffering, but unlike Mark, he will never reach the conclusion and no deserved catharsis will follow. His closest ones will keep dying, deceased foes will keep resurrecting and girls will keep leaving him.
let me continue where you stoped: , but always manage to give him people in his corner that love him at the end of the day only to use them later to toruture him more either by having to get beaten almost to death to save them or them emotionally hurting him and neglegting his feelings while he has to apologies although it's not his faultl
@mohammedamineamrane4917 haven't seen season 2 but if the rest of his relationships are anything like the one he had with the black girl I'm done with these writers
It was ingenious how Kirkman skirted around the ages of infants in this series. We didn’t have to wait for Mark’s brother or daughter to age in “real” time
See that’s exactly what I love about the series, I feel like I’ve read and seen many others where there’s a couple scenes that are like “oh fuck, that’s good” and “OHHHH SHIT OKAY” moments, but Invincible manages one about every chapter maybe more lol
Soooo the thing sent him into the past and told him it was his chance to undo his actions before going back to the present and when Mark agreed, the thing was upset about it and punished him by sending him 5 years into the future? That’s like a cop taking a criminal into a bank vault, unlocking all the safety deposit boxes and saying “this is your chance to get rich like you always wanted” and then getting mad when he does it.
yeah, I hated those whole thing too. Especially because it doesn't ever really go anywhere afterwards. People are giving alternatives to the time-skip, but really, they could have just advanced time - draw some panels of the intervening years, and then explain it's 'five years later' now. no fuss needed.
@@Deto128 the cleanest solution that allows Mark to see his daughter grow up AND have Thragg's children be of age in time for the war that I can think of is Thragg deciding to move his base near a blackhole so that (just like with the thraxans) time flows faster for them.
Robert Kirkman: “how can I screw over invincible and his fans without looking like I ran out of ideas for how to give Thragg years to prepare his army? Ooo yassssssssss……. Incomprehensible 8th dimension entity… PERFECT”
Tbh he basically got a chance most would kill for and threw it away instead of saving the countless lives he could have saved. That seemed to piss of this entity so it dumped him 5 yrs in the future out of spite i think.
@@kupo3373 because Mark is probably one of the only kindest individuals in the multiverse and the fact that he chose his daughter over saving literal countless lives disappointed him to the extent he ruined his chance to watch his daughter grow up
They treat him like how marvel writers treat Spiderman only difference is at least he gets more powerful as time goes on. Peter just still has the same powers while Miles is getting lightsabers
I honestly hated this arc, like this was just an unjustifiable punishment for mark and for no reason at all, i don't see why this had to happen. This was just there to add to the list of shitty things that happen to mark
I read this issue when I was at my lowest point in my entire life and that was the tipping point for me to try again after I stopped feeling depressed for a couple of hours after reading that issue
Honestly if a viltrumite missed 5 year of his life I feel like they wouldn’t care and be kinda happy, because they got a quick power up. Mark for him missed an important moment so I get it, but in the long run it doesn’t matter too much considering how long they live.
That would only be relevant if he was 1, raised as a viltrumite and 2, was already several hundred years old. When you're 9, 1 year feels like a lot. When you're only 20 like Mark, 5 years is a big feckin deal
Mark touched the source of all living matter to become a devil with the powers of the Founding Titan. He will keep moving forward until his enemies are destroyed
ngl this was so annoying just mark going through unnecessary suffering he can not catch a break and yeah i guess its the point of the comics and its what makes him invincible but fuck he cant catch a break
Mark is only 20 at this point in time so 5 years is still a whole Quarter of his life gone and the early years of his child passed. Its a huge feckin deal ffs
Will someone explain to me how channels can post songs (in this case it's crimewave by Crystal Castles" and the song title at the bottom will say original sound? Is it because hes talking over the song?
This narratively never made sense to me why did we have to do this to him, and why not put him back in the right time even if it wasn't time travel and a dream state instead why couldn't it have been he woke up confused in the same day not remembering the events bc honestly it was very pivotal and confusing in a lot of situations afterwards🤦🏾♂️
That only applies to viltrimites that are 100s of years old. Mark isonly 20 and has a VERY human perception of time and still missed out on a chunk of his daughters upbringing
Is it weird I hope they change this in the show atleast less time I’d like to see mark have atleast some presence in his childs birth and early life yk
They literally made a point of explaining that she waited 4 years and truely believed him to be dead. The longest he had been gone up to that point was in 10 months.
He should of stayed , bro genuinely could of figured out a way to get back with Eve after exposing Rex and could of saved and prevented so much as well as made a plan in which all viltrumite come to earth to live and repopulate and then once they had been affected like in the comics invincible exposes they’re the true aires and since they haven’t destroyed viltrum maybe thragg accepts this and gives humans a chance and the colalition still has thedus and overall I think it’d be cool to see conquest and thragg have a change in heart in this aspect but if they don’t they could always just banish them in which if they did invincible would know to kill them before hand or let his dad know they can’t let them go overall he could of made a amazing world and angstroms vision could of been a reality aswell , genuinely hope we get a what if ep in with this sort of outcome
Dude that sounds so boring. "Invincible without the cool fights, and everyone is nice to eachother" also I can tell you don't have children bc he would have lost his daughter for this "perfect world" that's not an option for most worthwhile parents.
@@whenallelsfails21 he could of literally got her back after getting with Eve n exposing Rex , I agree the story we all know or the main one is perfect but it would still be nice to see a reality like this where everything’s perfect
@@salimstibbsstibbs9354 oh yeah bc eve can chose to have a daughter with the exact genetic makeup of terra as she is in the og universe, lol. That's not how babies work. He could have another kid for sure, but it wouldn't be the same child at all. And I personally think a perfect reality is cool for like 3-5 issues. Beyond that I'm getting bored quickly.
@@whenallelsfails21 never know I recon it would with how babies in these sort of things work and also yes I do think she could cause that is kinda her power aswell😅 but yh just like how every son omni man has is mark in all time lines every daughter mark has with Eve will be terra
@@salimstibbsstibbs9354 that's her power when she's literally in the middle of dying. 99.9%of the time she can't control living matter. And no every daughter mark has with eve isn't terra lol. Mark himself says this is the reason why he won't stay in the past. Also most of the universes out there don't even have a mark at all. They just kept his character across the timelines we saw bc he's the literal main character and the invincible war is a cool idea.
I hate when a show puts in time travel out of nowhere it's bad writing and not choosing to go back is utterly stupid unless you're going to far obviously
Missed out on his daughters first five years of life and eve almost moved on lol. Also thragg is just building an army in the middle of this so nah, that time mattered. Mark also technically time traveled so it wasn't even 5 years for him, it was like 5 seconds.
i want you to disappear for 4 years and give 0 explanations and leave 0 traces we'll see if your partner waits for you it wasnt cheating if you're widowed bruhh what i will say is i hope it gets cut from the show
It seems like a parasite that put him in a dream world instead of time travel
Yeah
It was stated in the comics that the world he experienced was very much real and Mark had to choose if he wanted to continue that world with all of his knowledge of the past or go back to the present
@@joshuacharles930 so stupid
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@@joshuacharles930could be tricking him into staying in the dream
My head canon is that the entity didn't actually send him to the last but rather was a parasite that was feedings on him and it made him believe that he was in the past so he wouldn't fight back and when it started to lose control she seemingly gave him the choice of either leave or stay and him deciding to leave is a metaphor for the parasite loosing control on mark
That's funny... imagine your way out is by crying like a bitch in your bedroom. Also yeah, Oliver is just gonna give up on his brother for 5 years not having searched the planet to make 1000% sure he hadn't spatially disappeared or was sitting in a cave with a tentacles parasite covering his face
Didn’t he try to test that with robot?
Seems kinda like a weaker version of the Black Mercy plant
I heard its some sort of criticism for marvel and dc comics coz they restart everything all the time. I might be wrong tho
@@Duffyfactory Superman>>>>>>
“what is 5 years to a viltrumite” he missed getting to see his daughter growing up do you have any idea how important those first years are.
He can make more 😏
ikr
it doesn’t matter because tera is a spoiled brat who’s gotten everything she’s wanted. i feel bad for mark, not her
First few years are overrated let’s be honest nobody remembers anything before the age of 5 except maybe the odd traumatic memory and he’s gonna have thousands of years with her
@@StrykeSZN and why do you think that is, she didn’t have a father for the first 5 years of her life. this is why it matters, she would be a completely different person
“How can we fuck Mark’s life beyond repair and permanently traumatize him while also making sure his significant others hate him and blame him for it with little to no sympathy whatsoever today?” - Robert Kirkman every time he got bored
It makes me understand "God's plan" for me alot more.
Sounds like the marvel writers who won’t stop fucking up Spider-Man’s life.
@@CheebsCheebyyup I feel the same way
No wonder him and Spiderman vibed in their crossover 🤣
Robert Kirkman needs psycho-therapy
Invincible is written the way spiderman would be if it was done by competent writers. They send him through hell constantly, but always manage to give him people in his corner that love him at the end of the day
The problem of Spider Man is not bad writers. It’s that Marvel (and DC too) will never finish their comics, because they need a constant selling material. And so Spider Man keeps suffering, but unlike Mark, he will never reach the conclusion and no deserved catharsis will follow. His closest ones will keep dying, deceased foes will keep resurrecting and girls will keep leaving him.
@@Gizbornchthat’s heavy man
let me continue where you stoped: , but always manage to give him people in his corner that love him at the end of the day only to use them later to toruture him more either by having to get beaten almost to death to save them or them emotionally hurting him and neglegting his feelings while he has to apologies although it's not his faultl
@mohammedamineamrane4917 haven't seen season 2 but if the rest of his relationships are anything like the one he had with the black girl I'm done with these writers
@@clarence7013 Amber is the worst but there are others that does simular things sometimes not as frequently but they still do ☠
Bro how tf did he not turn into the founding titian😭?
Imagine a viltrumite titan 💀
@@Youngyacobman a whole universe will be snuffed out of existence💀
The founding tittyan
It was ingenious how Kirkman skirted around the ages of infants in this series. We didn’t have to wait for Mark’s brother or daughter to age in “real” time
His daughter walking into the room to end that issue was a real Ooooh F@#$ moment
See that’s exactly what I love about the series, I feel like I’ve read and seen many others where there’s a couple scenes that are like “oh fuck, that’s good” and “OHHHH SHIT OKAY” moments, but Invincible manages one about every chapter maybe more lol
Soooo the thing sent him into the past and told him it was his chance to undo his actions before going back to the present and when Mark agreed, the thing was upset about it and punished him by sending him 5 years into the future? That’s like a cop taking a criminal into a bank vault, unlocking all the safety deposit boxes and saying “this is your chance to get rich like you always wanted” and then getting mad when he does it.
The entity was so petty to sending him 5 years into the future when he could’ve woken him up right when he fell into the whole 😭
At least that weird entity could have told him about his brother's death or coming
That 5 year skip was the dumbest plot device ever. The writer just needed an excuse for Thraggs army to be ready
Exactly, they could've just made some sort of rapid-ageing chambers so Thragg's army could've been ready in a week or so
Yeah, it was so unneeded. Mark could have just gone through a wormhole and it would have been better.
If the show ever catches up, I truly hope they don’t add this weird subplot to it.
yeah, I hated those whole thing too. Especially because it doesn't ever really go anywhere afterwards. People are giving alternatives to the time-skip, but really, they could have just advanced time - draw some panels of the intervening years, and then explain it's 'five years later' now. no fuss needed.
@@Deto128 the cleanest solution that allows Mark to see his daughter grow up AND have Thragg's children be of age in time for the war that I can think of is Thragg deciding to move his base near a blackhole so that (just like with the thraxans) time flows faster for them.
Robert Kirkman: “how can I screw over invincible and his fans without looking like I ran out of ideas for how to give Thragg years to prepare his army? Ooo yassssssssss……. Incomprehensible 8th dimension entity… PERFECT”
Is that the thing from attack on titan
This will break people when it's animated in season 6
How come no one ever mentions this entity? Especially in those powerscaling videos. This thing seems like it could be the strongest in the series.
Because power scaling is for nerds and fat teenage boys.
Could you talk about the Amalgam universe, its actually really cool 🔥
What’s that
@@tengoodquestions The Amalgam universe is the result of Marvel and DC merging together into one reality after the Marvel vs DC comic event.
Okay but he lives for thousands of years compared to humans which is barely 100. 5 years is inconsequential.
Eve nearly moved on (she dumped the guy) and he missed very important developmental years for his daughter.
Bro just couldn't catch a break
I love crystal castles
It clearly sent him into the future because it was upset he didn't want to keep the future it offered which saved lives.
Tbh he basically got a chance most would kill for and threw it away instead of saving the countless lives he could have saved. That seemed to piss of this entity so it dumped him 5 yrs in the future out of spite i think.
Why offer a choice only to punish for one choice would be my question to that
@@kupo3373 because Mark is probably one of the only kindest individuals in the multiverse and the fact that he chose his daughter over saving literal countless lives disappointed him to the extent he ruined his chance to watch his daughter grow up
They treat him like how marvel writers treat Spiderman only difference is at least he gets more powerful as time goes on. Peter just still has the same powers while Miles is getting lightsabers
I would have stayed in the past
Invincible being as depressing and awesome as usual.
also eve was getting drilled by an alien lol
My favourite arc in invincible
If i'm not mistaken, Eve also thought he was dead and starded dating again in that time period
Yeah, people here in the comments seem yo have forgotten it
Well I’ll never forget it. I Hate that blue-bastard lol. Not his fault but still, f**k that guy🤣.
hated that part. With some asshole kubian too? makes no sense
I honestly hated this arc, like this was just an unjustifiable punishment for mark and for no reason at all, i don't see why this had to happen. This was just there to add to the list of shitty things that happen to mark
I read this issue when I was at my lowest point in my entire life and that was the tipping point for me to try again after I stopped feeling depressed for a couple of hours after reading that issue
Damn this show is deep asf
Honestly if a viltrumite missed 5 year of his life I feel like they wouldn’t care and be kinda happy, because they got a quick power up. Mark for him missed an important moment so I get it, but in the long run it doesn’t matter too much considering how long they live.
That would only be relevant if he was 1, raised as a viltrumite and 2, was already several hundred years old.
When you're 9, 1 year feels like a lot. When you're only 20 like Mark, 5 years is a big feckin deal
@@MobiusMundUr is Mark 20? His age is really unclear after he fights Levy.
One of the dumbest plot point ngl
Sorry got distracted by the crystal castles
Ever since that moment it’s like mark just, kept moving forward.
Wow that parasite that coincidentally looks like the hallucigenia from AOT also speaks like Eren himself
You post the best background music lol
I hate that people are spoiling the story for themselves through shorts like this :(
They chose to click, they don't hate it. Why should you?
@@aidananthony2059people dont click on shorts, they pop up when you're scrolling at random
Mark touched the source of all living matter to become a devil with the powers of the Founding Titan. He will keep moving forward until his enemies are destroyed
"This creature made him lose 5 years of his life"
So he ran into a normal guy?
After the event, Mark gained the founding titan and said that he'll never stop moving forward until all of his enemies are dead
Tatakae
Really struggled with those playin predictions 😂
Really want to watch/binge this show and read comics. I know I'm late but better than never right.
ngl this was so annoying just mark going through unnecessary suffering he can not catch a break and yeah i guess its the point of the comics and its what makes him invincible but fuck he cant catch a break
Must’ve been payback for undoing the *“universal peace”.*
more like "how invincible gained 5 more years of his life"
he could have turned into a total monster, get stronger in those 5 years
He literally could not catch a break. I hope the show does the impact of him missing 5 years a lot better than the comic.
Cant catch a break mark
Its a good thing that 5 years is nothing for a Viltrumite. Thats like spending a weekend in vacation
Mark is only 20 at this point in time so 5 years is still a whole Quarter of his life gone and the early years of his child passed.
Its a huge feckin deal ffs
That's like me pulling out a piece of my hair from my head😂that shit won't affect him at all
5 years don't Vilturmites, live thousands of years
Mark *CAVE CREATURES!!!*
Goku be like Take care of my sons piccolo I'm take a vacation in heaven 🏝 🌥 👋
Will someone explain to me how channels can post songs (in this case it's crimewave by Crystal Castles" and the song title at the bottom will say original sound? Is it because hes talking over the song?
Eren didn't need to do em like that
Mf CANNOT catch a break
Kinda looks like the titan from AOT
Legit was thinking the same thing too
What's 5 years to a viltrumite anyways
Her daughter grew up fine
He was raised as a human not a viltrumite
@@angelvillegas9604 they age slow so they can afford to miss 5 years
@@tengoodquestions there mindset is human
Maybe the fact that he missed 5 memorable years of seeing his f**kin daughter grow up????
They age normally or fast until adulthood
What a horrible choice the author made.
I agree
Nah that's the parasite from aot💀💀💀
Updated King Crimson
At least you didn’t lose 13 years of his life
Good thing viltrumites have a lot of years to give up
This is probably gonna be the mid season break for the final season
Invincible loses 5 minutes of his life* fixed it for yah
Proportionately, doesn't that do the same amount of damage to his lifespan as we'd get by smoking one cigar lmao
Which may as well be 5 days in the long run lol
My name is Eren Jaegar.I am using the power of the founding titan to address all of ymir's subjects.
Viltrumites get stronger from age so did he get a power boost since he basically fast forwarded 5 years
What's the song playing?
Crimewave by Crystal Castles
it's a total bop
I'd be mad
The being really said: resume game? Or load quick save?
This narratively never made sense to me why did we have to do this to him, and why not put him back in the right time even if it wasn't time travel and a dream state instead why couldn't it have been he woke up confused in the same day not remembering the events bc honestly it was very pivotal and confusing in a lot of situations afterwards🤦🏾♂️
5 years is like 5 hours to them lol
That only applies to viltrimites that are 100s of years old. Mark isonly 20 and has a VERY human perception of time and still missed out on a chunk of his daughters upbringing
And they can compete with the big “S” yea right
Ah u ment that way i was thinking arnt they like immortal well close to it compared to a human
Is it weird I hope they change this in the show atleast less time I’d like to see mark have atleast some presence in his childs birth and early life yk
its marks face when he sees Terra again that does it for me🫠
Yo Why didn’t The Entiy Stop The Viltrumites From Conquering The Universe!
Don’t think that thing was truly physically strong. And also, it’s confined to that cave if I’m not mistaken
Don't forget the fact that mother of his child didn't waste any time and cheated on him while he was gone 👍
They literally made a point of explaining that she waited 4 years and truely believed him to be dead. The longest he had been gone up to that point was in 10 months.
Niggas just out in this comment section lying huh 😭
He was literally gone for years
When you get your comic info from youtube shorts only
They always do
a story line that led nowhere.
The entitiy is the writer atumbling its way through this non story
5 years for a viltrumite ain’t a big deal
He should of stayed , bro genuinely could of figured out a way to get back with Eve after exposing Rex and could of saved and prevented so much as well as made a plan in which all viltrumite come to earth to live and repopulate and then once they had been affected like in the comics invincible exposes they’re the true aires and since they haven’t destroyed viltrum maybe thragg accepts this and gives humans a chance and the colalition still has thedus and overall I think it’d be cool to see conquest and thragg have a change in heart in this aspect but if they don’t they could always just banish them in which if they did invincible would know to kill them before hand or let his dad know they can’t let them go overall he could of made a amazing world and angstroms vision could of been a reality aswell , genuinely hope we get a what if ep in with this sort of outcome
Dude that sounds so boring. "Invincible without the cool fights, and everyone is nice to eachother" also I can tell you don't have children bc he would have lost his daughter for this "perfect world" that's not an option for most worthwhile parents.
@@whenallelsfails21 he could of literally got her back after getting with Eve n exposing Rex , I agree the story we all know or the main one is perfect but it would still be nice to see a reality like this where everything’s perfect
@@salimstibbsstibbs9354 oh yeah bc eve can chose to have a daughter with the exact genetic makeup of terra as she is in the og universe, lol. That's not how babies work. He could have another kid for sure, but it wouldn't be the same child at all.
And I personally think a perfect reality is cool for like 3-5 issues. Beyond that I'm getting bored quickly.
@@whenallelsfails21 never know I recon it would with how babies in these sort of things work and also yes I do think she could cause that is kinda her power aswell😅 but yh just like how every son omni man has is mark in all time lines every daughter mark has with Eve will be terra
@@salimstibbsstibbs9354 that's her power when she's literally in the middle of dying. 99.9%of the time she can't control living matter. And no every daughter mark has with eve isn't terra lol. Mark himself says this is the reason why he won't stay in the past.
Also most of the universes out there don't even have a mark at all. They just kept his character across the timelines we saw bc he's the literal main character and the invincible war is a cool idea.
Selfish but understandable
lol oh no 5 years lol for near immortal life span...
I hate when a show puts in time travel out of nowhere it's bad writing and not choosing to go back is utterly stupid unless you're going to far obviously
Did not really like this part
5 years are like 2 months for vintrumites
Not even that, but he still missed his daughter's development, which is worth a lifetime to a human.
I love how they add time skips in the series without them like actually skipping important characters lives similar to the robot an monster girl arc
*Eh whats 5 years to a Viltumite baby?*
What’s the song ?
Crimewave by Crystal Castles
I hate those suits wtf
better than yellow blue black
5 years is nothing to a viltrumite anyway so it shouldnt be a big deal for mark
Missed out on his daughters first five years of life and eve almost moved on lol. Also thragg is just building an army in the middle of this so nah, that time mattered. Mark also technically time traveled so it wasn't even 5 years for him, it was like 5 seconds.
Relatively though, for 5 years still feels long when you’ve only lived 20.
This entity is a jerk
“You are a disgrace mark grayson”
@@rileywalsh9567 don’t give me options and then get mad when I pick what you don’t want me too
I hate this story since he could’ve beat everyone with the help of angstrom
Mark could have saved omni man
I hope they skip over this in the series
this was the most stupid and most asspull like event in the whole comics. literally pointless besides aging up thragg's army enough to be a threat
why nobody say about that Eve have cheated on Mark?
i want you to disappear for 4 years and give 0 explanations and leave 0 traces
we'll see if your partner waits for you
it wasnt cheating if you're widowed bruhh
what i will say is i hope it gets cut from the show
God?
Since when does Mark have a daughter
Later on when he gets with eve it won’t happen in the show till like s5 or 6