Bounces & bumps as trial drivers tackle notorious ‘Crooked Mustard’ hill in Gloucestershire
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Drivers from across the UK took part in the annual Cotswold Clouds car trial today (February 5) - which included the notorious s-shaped ‘Crooked Mustard’ stage - a slippery, muddy, twisting uphill trail. Around 80 cars from pre-war to modern took part in the event organised by The Stroud & District Motor Club, but only a handful completed the Crooked Mustard climb. The Gloucestershire-based event has been running since 1950.
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This seems like the most improbable set of vehicles for this task. Which makes it fun to watch
I'm genuinely surprised that some of these cars actually made it, being RWD (many w/open diff's) nonetheless!
@@crxtodd16 i spied a couple 4WD suzukis in there but they were running in rwd to keep themselves with the spirit of the competition(or broken tcases)
@@crxtodd169😊8⁹oio🎉8😊😊😊6😮76😊
@@0xsergyI thought those XC90s (or whatever the Suzuki was called) were actually 2WD? They were basically the worst of all worlds-leaky t bar roof, terrible for luggage with the saloon boot, ride height & maneuverability of a 4x4 but with 2wd traction?
@@crxtodd16 RWD is at least far far superior to FWD for this
Those X90s were addorably disappointing! 😅 Love it!
Hey, careful what you say or Barbie will throw a tantrum!
I didn't even know there were 2wd X90's. TIL
I don't know why so many of them seem to attempt hill climb trials.
I didn't know there were that many of them left!
You bri’ish people are something else. No way Americans would touch a dirt road on anything smaller than an F-150 with a 2 meter clearance.
This looks like a lot of fun!
Two words:
1)Polaris
2)Can-Am
@@rroneuspyludoneus8162
Another word:
Relevance?
How in the hell those. 1935 Clubman cars were able to make it 🤯🤯🤯
Nothing here was that old. The older looking open top cars are kit cars like Marlins or Lieges.
The old school cars dominated. Just shows how crap cars of today are with all the fancy extras. Avagud1
what was the white wagon?
And all the people who didn't make it all gunned their engines.
This is rad
Bruh, he put that poor girl in the back of the blue 6 Bug to keep traction on the back tires......
a minute of silence for the fallen clutches
there made to be burnt
@@datrakapo4807
They’re
LOL
Why would they use clutch? Everybody is just flooring gas pedal. When you see wheel not spinning, it's the differential working and the other wheel spins crazy that you can't see.
Geologists 100 years from now: "Must've been the location of an ancient river. Look how it twisted and turned, making deep trenches"
The car river
Great comment 👍
Ahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂
Nice 😂😂😂
"Look, oil deposits! This must have been really deep at some point!"
I mean it was a river before they drove up it
Entertaining - a narrow track, skinny tires, and steady throttle seem to be the winning formula - surprising the rear engined Beetles didn't do better
And very light, the beetles are twice the weight of anything that completed the climb
Good aggressive winter tires on drive wheels would solve many of these struggling vehicles. It's often just grip needed. From a Canadian in Rockies :-)
Do you guys not do Bajas in the UK, a bus axle would eat this for breakfast
@@billmcmeekin7909 oh my gosh, thanks, this side of the pond we've never thought of that in the decades this event has been running.....
@@coreygolpheneee if he had lower gearing those front tyres would spend even less time on the ground.
Some rare sights there, can't remember the last time I saw a mk1 Escort estate that wasn't in a scrapyard or being bangered
And it's being used for this lmao. Was thinking the same while watching.
People enjoying their rare cars is great to see
It’s amazing, some people brought vintage cars, some people brought cars that look like they saw the brochure and said “I could do that”, and some people looked like they were just shitposting. But no matter what, nobody took it too seriously and it looks like everyone had fun.
Having fun is the whole point of these events, though the fun level does drop a notch or two when it's cold and raining.
I was a little horrified at the vintage cars…are they replicas?
@@liamgross7217 most likely not, it’s good to remember though that when those cars were new, the normal roads looked like this hill, if not worse. A car’s meant to be driven, not gussied up in a basement or garage somewhere, and this is a perfect way to show the world that despite their age, they’ve still got it.
@@ferrumignis as an American, I know half the population of where I live would LOVE to tackle a hill like that in the pouring rain or blistering cold. Lots of old and beaten up Rangers and Jeeps, snow and black ice are just free entertainment.
@@MilkDrinker218 mate I’ve got a couple of classics and I drive them regularly but I don’t think I’d bounce them up a hill.
It’s why they made it to 50 and 70. But each to there own, these guys may have a bigger check book than I have.
The Smart really sended it, and it worked perfectly
when was the smart car?
@@hair_sauce6472 4:44
Yeah, with at least 50 or more Percent Differential lock. No wonder why most of them didn´t make it at all.
Those English are totally crazy but on a funny way
We certainly are!
@@RUclipsmoderator1216 But on a funny way "-)))
Fanks
@@SW-qr8qe YW Possum
@You Created Me
Calm down snowflake.
These cars just need a rear diff lock and some all terrain tires and they would most likely be fine, I think.
They would, but I think the competition rules don’t allow it. Funnier this way
There are very strict rules about tyres and diffs.
@@trolleyracingmaster7075 Hahaha, I see! Definitely more exciting this way then! Those VW Bugs seem to dominate on for the most part. Probably the weight of the rear engine. Anyway, it's definitely good times!
@@csdinc did a bug even make it up?
@@csdinc The tyres aren't permitted to have a tread block gap or tread depth more than 8mm (5/16 inch) and mud/snow tyres are prohibited even if they somehow meet that requirement, so choice is greatly restricted.
Sporting trials cars (designed and built specifically for off road trials) usually have fiddle brakes; separate hand operated brakes for left and right driven wheels which are used as a kind of human controlled limited slip diff, but I don't think this event permits fiddle brakes. All designed to push the emphasis to driver skill rather than vehicle ability.
That lifted z3 goes hard. I feel like most of these cars would've had no problem if they didnt have an open diff.
my thoughts exactly
... and meaty mudders on posi rear diff
Probably rule book
no no
@@danielj1063 good point, i didnt think of that
@@danielj1063 no snow tires and no m+s tires according to another poster.
1:57 I can't tell if that's the most dirt nasty sounding turbo I've heard in my life or insane wheel slip
I’m 90% sure it’s wheel slip. What a noise, though.
The good old bouncy technique 4:46
Idk what that Smart Car relative is; but it is good at what it does.
@@rroneuspyludoneus8162 That's the Smart Roadster.
@@rroneuspyludoneus8162 it’s a Smart Roadster
Wonderful action coverage. I was taking still pictures to your right.
Think I heard ur camera at 6:07 😂
Probably one of thee closest things to video game off road meets. Graphics are outstanding...
video games?
@@smashypeople oh sorry...meats*
@@TupinkJuanstink Ah, I understand now. Thanks hpbadboy.
@@smashypeople LuL iKuZo.
I've seen 4x4s here in the USA that wouldn't make that hill.
@@Wontreplyeverdontbother Nah, He's right. Most people think 4wd will help but with just one more driven tire in front, it won't really. A rear locked diff would however help a lot, which is why they are not allowed in this class of hillclimb.
I don't think I've ever seen a swing arm extend that far on the front of a bug without breaking!!!
Bugs are either glass or bulletproof. No inbetween.
That is because bug front ends do not have swing arms.
I saw it
Clearly you have never seen a VW Bug before. Go look up 1600 class in Baja racing, where they race 500 miles offroad, in virtually stock form.
@@nobodynoone2500 Perhaps I was confused by owning and maintaining myself at least 1/2 doz. beetles, ghias, and transporters over the years, but the FRONT axle of non-super beetle (72 and up) suspension as always looked like a straight axle with torsion bar and ball joint. Swing arm is rear suspension ONLY in a stock VW unless it was a later (69 and up) I.R.S. suspension. Clearly you have never held a wrench!
I believe this is what wrc needs
I’m in America “home of Motor sports”😂. The CCCT put together a very cool event. The price point of entry is that a middle class family could afford. It appears to be family friendly. Hats off to you guys and gals. This is the type of stuff my family grew up doing in the 70s and 80s. From my vantage point, it appears to be all but lost across the pond.
these type of trials were started in the 1930 in the uk
When it comes to Motorsport America is pathetic 😂
I'm in America "home of the unsophisticated"
Didn't America invent the motor car too??
@@TheoriginalSpaceboy No, Germany
The cars that did the best used the bank of the turns rather than trying to stay on the path directly. It seems like such an obvious thing but damn a lot of people just... Tried to muscle through it for some reason.
Fun video!
Genuinely surprised to see some of the older vintage models perform so well
Roads back then weren't as good as they are today, so the cars were designed to be somewhat off-road to begin with. Look at the excellent approach and departure angles (which you can't have nowadays due to needing to have bumpers and other safety features). They're also a lot lighter.
0:57 That dune buggy took it like a champ!
Honestly looks like the only car that is supposed to be there.
As an American that's seen some really gnarly rock and hill climbs this is just to hilarious to watch.. hey as long as everyone had fun that's all that counts 👍
I agree, I'm from Western Canada and I've seen driveways that are almost this bad. I guess you'd call it 'quaint'.
Lmao Ik a rzr would just roll up this no problem I guess that’s the whole thing little pos 2wd cars see how good they can go
Not everything's a dick waving contest.
Figures a yank would be an expert on driving up a dirt hill.
It’s not always about who can get the gnarliest 4wd up the gnarliest climb. The whole point of this is to use stock 2wd cars with stock tyres to see how they go. It takes a lot of skill to throw those cars up there.
You can tell who even has a shot to make it by looking at the momentum they have going into the first banked turn. The ones coming in slow and then revving the snot out of it right before the bank never make it.
Poor first guy had a beastly counterweight in the back he had to deal with
😂
I thought it would help traction a bit, but he took a bad line up.
@@nobodynoone2500 😂 who would have known hefty ladies could save both car and human life going up hill on a curve
It definitely could use some weight reduction in the rear end😂😂
I mean there’s already an engine in the back of the car, I’m sure his setup has it doing wheelies on flat road lol
Throw some PBR & shotgun play into the mix and you've got a typical Saturday in Kentucky. "OK, you try to drive past me before I shoot the beer out of your hand." OK let's go..
And thank god for that! We are a separate country for a very good reason.
7:07 Why bring such a beauty in there
Cars are made to be used, better than sitting in a garage collecting dust.
@@eyesodd
Not like this.
@@skylined5534 Don't get me wrong I love a notch/fast/square back, but as I say I'd sooner see it used than not.
Theres a notch bear me sitting on a drive for years rotting away, the owner won't sell it 😔
My driveway at the end of winter
That looks like a good bit of fun. No roll bar on some is a little scary though.
Hopefully youll be thrown clear of the wreckage.
What do you think your head's for? 😂
@@skylined5534 right. Sorry I get a little forgetful sometimes. To many hits to the head.
@@moshunit96
😂
Love how a lot of the Morgans are light and nimble enough to make it up
Imagine a caterham 😂
Where is/are the Morgans❓
Would of thought the bugs would do better. Looks like fun 😄
Same though they all appear to be on knackered road tyres so there is that!
@@skylined5534 The reg's say you have to use road tyres
@@TheoriginalSpaceboy
Ahh I was wondering if that might be the case!
It helps if you don’t have 500 extra pounds in the back like the first one
Gotta hit that hill like the dukes of Hazzard.
The Smart Roadster was a surprise!
Surprised me as well, but props to the owner for doing it. Rear mid engined and RWD so it has that advantage but I'd have thought the robotised gearbox and clutch would be a bit of a handicap for this kind of event.
@@ferrumignis definitely not the original drivetrain in that
@@belindathorne9784Having watched it again I'm certain you are correct, doesn't sound like a 3 cylinder Smart at all.
Doing this in a convertible without *at least* a decent roll hoop fitted is *nuts*
So fucking true, the number of cars that came close to just rolling and squashing their owners melons 😅
they dont even use seatbelts as they need to bounce.
if the car rolls over, there's a high chance of someone getting split by the rollbar.
You bores must not get out much...
@@nobodynoone2500 I get out plenty… I just don’t think it’d be very nice for the kids watching their dads from the sidelines to see their dads dome get crushed by a car.
Is this event only for rwd classics cars no 4wd trucks
Proven: Those pelvic thrust do work.
Quite surprised the VW's didn't do better. This is the kind of thing they are sually quite good at, despite not being explicitly designed for it. A more agressive dirt tire and if possible a limited slip diff and I thing they'd have done better.
Edit: A Mini moke also comes to mind, with four passengers. Even if it gets bogged down four guys and just lift it out and carry it.
My uncle has a mini moke and they're fucken awesome wee things. His is purple and he rides round with a big ass teddy in the back lol
the point of a trials car is to have the skinny road tires that it would normally drive on, adding off-road winter tires would make it took easy
Those little Morgans make it look easy! As an American, I love those little cars! Would love to build one with an American flair for over here!
Putting an LS in one would be as American as it gets..lol
@@GLDENGLOVES that's how the Shelby Cobra was made. Small British sports car + big power = Merica
There were NO Morgans in this clip, perhaps you are confusing with the Marlins.
@@gerry343 That what I thought they were. They were a little too metallic looking to be made of wood.
@@harrimat100 Many Morgans have a steel chassis, only the aluminium body panels were supported on a wood frame.
The most amazing part for me was seeing people bouncing to give the cars more traction.
It reminds me of my childhood, when my whole family used to do this to try unstuck our Beetle from the mud when we traveled to my grandpa's house. Good ol' memories...
3:26 passenger trying to look calm as the car almost rolls over and crushes them
Love how they make a course that is easy for 4wd off road vehicles look super challenging
I live next to these woods - trust me with the steepness of the incline 4x4 wouldn't help greatly - this is why the ultra light trials cars do so well- what weight they do have is transferred to the rear wheels - by gravity!
From what I am reading in these comments it's intentional that there aren't any proper 4WD vehicles, sometimes its more fun to try and do something in the wrong type of vehicle
Indeed, using those tires, this is how they keep the local bicycle shops in business.
The entire point is to make this a competition of driver skill rather than car ability. Getting a well sorted 4x4 with huge off road tyres up these slopes isn't much of a challenge.
Nothing gets past this OP.
Excellent. It's such a thrill to clear this monster of a section.
Ah yes. The classic British Funnywumpus Races.
It's like a drive way in British Columbia or Western Alberta in the fall.
Why is 'Crooked Mustard Hill' instantly the most British thing I've ever heard in my life
That was brilliant, I never seen escorts and mx5 doing that before.
Out of all those cars you choose those 2 haha guess you didn't know any others
@@leonardhpls6 my father had a garage when I was young and there was an old mud plugger as we called it that I played in. I’ve restored many cars professionally and as a hobby but the two cars I mentioned stood out to me as I’ve owned both and would never have thought anyone would enter them in a trial. I was astounded and greatly enjoyed the video. It looked like a lot of fun.
Smart Roadster as well, that one was the biggest surprise.
@@leonardhpls6
What a strange little comment.
Everyone clapping for support is great. In America they clap ironically if you fail and crash.
Rear engines really shined.
Weight over drive wheels!
I’m in the wrong country 🤣🤣looks fun as heck
My favorite was the smart coupe who gave it the complete and utter beans
I feel like they must be scored by inappropriateness of vehicle selected
Those old cars surprisingly made it better! Very funny motorsport.
Older cars were made when not all roads were paved. They were often designed with the occasional offroading in mind.
what a strange place for the copilots to try and alleviate their hemorrhoid's.
I think I see the advantage here, light frame, lightweight aluminum high strung engine, revs and momentum.
I bet my friend that My Toyota could go where his K- 5 BLAZER COULDN'T HE TOOK ME UP AND I WON 20💲,,, BY FOLDING BACK MY REAR VIEW SIDE MIRRORS ,,, AND WENT BETWEEN 2 OAK 🌲
Can everyone pray that my sister finds a good husband to marry.
WTF?
I love seeing those European cars, never seen them do this before. Looks like a blast, I could make a weekend of it. Well done..
I love it, ,How theyre going up a Hillary with theire Wife's as passengers jumping in the seat to get some grip 🤣, I need ro do this one day..
To heck with autocross, this is where its at!
Couldn't help myself, willing and bouncing up and down ,to get them up that hill.😂🤣😂,,,,,,✌💪❤
I wanna go watch this live!
I want to participate in someone else's car!
Not bad for such an old, "weak" car. Especially when loaded with an heavy load only on one side of the car (both persons)
But i also feel bad to see such beautiful classics being destroyed and tormented so much like completely pushing the limiter. I mean beetle, MX-5, Morgan, Z4 and many other classics is hard to watch. I could not do this.
Same. Lots of 'argh' moments here but the older beetles and that mk1 Escort estate really harpooned my soul!
@@skylined5534 yeah i mean there are thousands of other old cars which are way less desireable.. something like a nissan micra, toyota charisma etc. I would use those cars but not those beautys.
Is 4 wheel drive and positive traction not allowed?
Nope, neither are all or mud terrain tyres.
Coming next year this looks awesome 👌
And you hear a tall famous guy who's yelling " SPEED & POWER !!!!"🤣🤣🤣
These cars are way too clean to be doing this!!! None of mine are that nice.
I was really cheering for at least 1 Suzuki X-90, just 1, to make it all the way.
O segredo para sobir é acelerar na hora certa, o carro ser leve, peso só na traseira 💪🏻🇧🇷
No all-wheel drive or 4-wheel drives allowed, only front-wheel drive or rear-wheel drive sign me up for one of the lifted Volkswagen Beatles preferably the green camouflage 1 and a couple other goodies to go and I'm ready to go this looks like a fun day
Вот бы мне туда
Some of those cars looked to nice to be doing that to them, lol.
The red VW type 2 @7:10 was sweet.
I bet a diff weld would make these perform better. At least in these sections.
And low tire pressure 10 psi.
Not permitted, they have to run open diffs.
Elegant looking cars with great sounding engines, 2wd rock bouncing up a hill. Lol must be brittish
People using unique cars to hillclimb with. Lovely!
I know!, I was waiting for the Model A sedan haha
not a single beetle was abled to climb
Cruella De Vil would have made it up that hill without any problems going after those dalmatians.
I just drove in from Wexford... which way to the pub mate?
That Smart Roadster was awesome! haha
Looked for this comment.
@@rogsoll So did I. I was surprised not to find one!
4:42
This is basically 'how far can you get without knobbly tires'.
Ahh the open diff off road experience
the white Ford escort was the closest of the normal car body types to make it, so so close
The proper hilclimb buggies are incredible. What are they called?
Cars
@@Morzsaszar and you are called a moron.
This like... a hill climb with 2wd vehicles or something?
Production car trials. One of the original motorsports in the UK, started around 100 years ago.
I think that first blue beetle could use a little weight reduction in the back. Might balance out the handling 😅😂
So satisfying to skip forward every second or 10 and see another car try to succeed
A LOT of nice cars there to be doing this with. Fun to watch but I would only do this with like a $500 car that I really hated...It was fun to watch.
This looks like a ton of fun. Wish we did this in the states.
That VW dune buggy made it all the way
No wonder why they didn't make it... Shifting gears with the left hand there is no way they could do this
i enjoyed seeing those escorts. in america our "escort" was totally different. youd have no idea that the escort had racing history unless u were into cars.
All the little open wheelers were light enough to get through. Plus on offroad skinnier wheels have benefits
Note to self… don’t bring a Suzuki to this event.
1:50 oh my god i praise for that guy that his front wheel did not break, i felt that cracking noise