6:37 that's because his focus is on where the ball is gonna go, not where it is now. It is something I know from art school. When you want to draw a straight line, you don't look at where the beginning of the line is, at your pencil, you draw the line while focusing on the end point you want. It is a very basic tip (easily overlooked and underappreciated) that can apply in MANY skills and life situations.
It maybe a good tip in other areas of life, but not in tennis, on the contrary. When hitting, you fix your eyes at the ball impact area and stay focused there until after you hit, never focusing on where the ball is going to be, because you want your body to remain stable throughout the whole motion. By focusing on where the ball is going to be you loose stability and therefore consistency. That's why, among other things, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are far more consitent than Kyrgios. They all focus on the hitting area. Kyrgios is good DESPITE the fact that he doesn't look at the impact area, not thanks to it. If he did, he would be a more consistent player. Being incredibly talented as he is, he hasn't won any major tournament due to his lack of consistency, while others not as talented have.
That racquet flip is reeeeally pronounced and fluid, butt cap facing the ball. Loose wrist wow this is more effective but counterintuitive. Took me a while to get that down. Still need more practice. I was your typical locked wrist newb. Excellent analysis Ryan, thank you 🙂
Yup, exactly what I found as well. Once you get the feel for that loose whipping motion, control comes naturally and amps the mph big time. A bigger, looping swing MIGHT give you more consistency but is severely limits how far you can go with it; this loose, modern, short C-type swing takes your game to a whole new level.
You should also mention that this style has a serious skill cap. The wild swing around needs a perfect coordination, because the racquet is only in the right place for a fraction of a second. A long swing still has the edge when consistency is required.
This is so wrong. The ball always stays in contact with the strings for a fraction of a second. All tennis strokes need perfect co-ordination. What you're saying will work for shots hit below 50 mph.
@@ReD4eva94 Pls re-read. I didn´t write that the actual contact is a fraction of a second, but the racquet is only facing the correct way for this kind of a short period of time. Huge difference to a controlled (but slow) swing with a stiff wrist.
The way he approaches a baseline forehand is like a finishing strike - a relatively high point of contact and a lot of acceleration. I tend to have the same racquet finish which comes from the speed and over-rotation. I'm sure that he has bruises on his left elbow and even his back like me :) I also have an extreme grip - full western to occasionally hawaiian so i guess that all these similarities come together
Ryan teaches keeping non-hitting arm/hand high, to permit rotation of the core. Kyrgios leaves that arm down, but achieves the rotation anyway. Whatever we do, we gotta shoot video and review immediately. Reviewing late risks burning in bad habits.
@@sebastiansantos5561 because Nadal’s racket face is wide open during the take back and when recreational players do that it ruins their forehands. Speaking from 26 years of coaching.
how does it aggravate your shoulder? I currently have shoulder pain and it could be because of this too, My shoulder clicks too on my shoulder blade side.
@@Tennisluvr would love to answer but, due to a fall last week, My right shoulder is sore, and it will be at least few weeks before I can hit again. Here are some thoughts though: My problem might have been over extending the arm (towards back), arm should not extend further back than the shoulder line, that puts too much pressure on the shoulder joint, as we accelerate for the stroke. So keeping the arm on the hitting side is a good idea
He gets the most lag, the angle between his forearm and the racquet shaft may be as small as 20 or 30 degrees it seems to me, at the conclusion of his racquet flip. 90 degrees is very good. The only other player that gets that kind of extreme lag at the flip to me is Sinner. That is the key to their power it seems.
Yeah Kyrgios fh looks like a massive one and sure it may be but please in real matches don´t seem like that in every shot unlike Sinner. Sinner does look like massive and brutal both in training and in real matches in every shot he hits. An amazing powerful (and compact ? Am i right?) forehand. Why Ryan please? Great teaching as usual man!!!!
How is he hitting without looking at the ball? Will that cause inconsistency? Fed stays looking at the point of contact before and long after he hits the ball.
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6:37 that's because his focus is on where the ball is gonna go, not where it is now. It is something I know from art school. When you want to draw a straight line, you don't look at where the beginning of the line is, at your pencil, you draw the line while focusing on the end point you want. It is a very basic tip (easily overlooked and underappreciated) that can apply in MANY skills and life situations.
It maybe a good tip in other areas of life, but not in tennis, on the contrary. When hitting, you fix your eyes at the ball impact area and stay focused there until after you hit, never focusing on where the ball is going to be, because you want your body to remain stable throughout the whole motion. By focusing on where the ball is going to be you loose stability and therefore consistency. That's why, among other things, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are far more consitent than Kyrgios. They all focus on the hitting area. Kyrgios is good DESPITE the fact that he doesn't look at the impact area, not thanks to it. If he did, he would be a more consistent player. Being incredibly talented as he is, he hasn't won any major tournament due to his lack of consistency, while others not as talented have.
That racquet flip is reeeeally pronounced and fluid, butt cap facing the ball. Loose wrist wow this is more effective but counterintuitive. Took me a while to get that down. Still need more practice. I was your typical locked wrist newb. Excellent analysis Ryan, thank you 🙂
Thanks so much Rich! You got this…
Yup, exactly what I found as well. Once you get the feel for that loose whipping motion, control comes naturally and amps the mph big time. A bigger, looping swing MIGHT give you more consistency but is severely limits how far you can go with it; this loose, modern, short C-type swing takes your game to a whole new level.
You should also mention that this style has a serious skill cap. The wild swing around needs a perfect coordination, because the racquet is only in the right place for a fraction of a second. A long swing still has the edge when consistency is required.
This is so wrong. The ball always stays in contact with the strings for a fraction of a second. All tennis strokes need perfect co-ordination. What you're saying will work for shots hit below 50 mph.
@@ReD4eva94 Pls re-read. I didn´t write that the actual contact is a fraction of a second, but the racquet is only facing the correct way for this kind of a short period of time. Huge difference to a controlled (but slow) swing with a stiff wrist.
Congrats on the 100k subs! Been with your channel since you had about 9k subs. Awesome to see your channel grow. All the best.
Wow thank you so much!! 100k happened bc of people like you. You got this!!
Been looking for a video like this. Thanks
Great video explaining the power source of the forehand 👍
Thank you Robert!
Congrats on 100k. My favorite tennis channel
Wow thank you! It’s bc of people like you that the channel reaches this milestone. Thank you so so so much!
Kyrgios' forehand is incredible!! I'm not strong or fast enough to do that kind of motion on my forehand though.
The most pronounced "whip" on tour IMO. Amazing coordination.
The way he approaches a baseline forehand is like a finishing strike - a relatively high point of contact and a lot of acceleration. I tend to have the same racquet finish which comes from the speed and over-rotation. I'm sure that he has bruises on his left elbow and even his back like me :) I also have an extreme grip - full western to occasionally hawaiian so i guess that all these similarities come together
Ryan teaches keeping non-hitting arm/hand high, to permit rotation of the core. Kyrgios leaves that arm down, but achieves the rotation anyway. Whatever we do, we gotta shoot video and review immediately. Reviewing late risks burning in bad habits.
Thanks Jeff! Though Kyrgios’ left hand is up when he hits. Then immediately after it drops to his side. You are right, we all need to film. Thanks!!!
Perfect idea but can I do this in backhand also ....hoping if quick reply
This technique really isn’t ideal for backhand. Backhand is a simpler stroke. Try copying Djokovic for backhand
Which forehand backswing do you prefer kyrgios or Nadal¿?
Djokovic’s is better than both Nadal and Kyrgios when it comes to rec players copying them.
@@2MinuteTennis but just between Nadal and Kyrgios¿?
@@sebastiansantos5561 Kyrgios
@@2MinuteTennis why
@@sebastiansantos5561 because Nadal’s racket face is wide open during the take back and when recreational players do that it ruins their forehands. Speaking from 26 years of coaching.
I'm a big fan of the Tiafoe forehand as well.
Wow he's so much to the side of the ball. I have started trying to do this.
great vid
Thank you so much!!!
I’ve been playing for almost four years now and I still don’t know what type of grip I have 🤔.
Going to work on that lol
Haha it’s easy to tell. Send me a video of you hitting a forehand ryan@2minutetennis.net and I’ll let you know what grip you use!
what bevel is your index pad and palm pad on?? That will tell you what grip you are using.
I like to use this for higher balls, flatter balls. I wonder though if something I do aggrevates my shoulder.
how does it aggravate your shoulder? I currently have shoulder pain and it could be because of this too, My shoulder clicks too on my shoulder blade side.
@@Tennisluvr would love to answer but, due to a fall last week, My right shoulder is sore, and it will be at least few weeks before I can hit again. Here are some thoughts though: My problem might have been over extending the arm (towards back), arm should not extend further back than the shoulder line, that puts too much pressure on the shoulder joint, as we accelerate for the stroke. So keeping the arm on the hitting side is a good idea
You are the best
He gets the most lag, the angle between his forearm and the racquet shaft may be as small as 20 or 30 degrees it seems to me, at the conclusion of his racquet flip. 90 degrees is very good. The only other player that gets that kind of extreme lag at the flip to me is Sinner. That is the key to their power it seems.
So it appears he's not really dropping the racket as much giving the wiping look as he goes through contact
Yeah Kyrgios fh looks like a massive one and sure it may be but please in real matches don´t seem like that in every shot unlike Sinner. Sinner does look like massive and brutal both in training and in real matches in every shot he hits. An amazing powerful (and compact ? Am i right?) forehand.
Why Ryan please?
Great teaching as usual man!!!!
Is that why he’s always having elbow & arm issues ??
can you explain Jennifer Brady Forehand??
^ please this. Trying to understand why she is able to hit the ball so much more powerfully than her competition
Helloooooooow! You got this!
Kind of like Roger Federer’s forehand but Nick has a more extreme grip
His forehand is like a modern update of Aaron Krickstein’s.
I'm the first ;-) Thanks a lot.
Hey great job! Thanks so much!
How is he hitting without looking at the ball? Will that cause inconsistency? Fed stays looking at the point of contact before and long after he hits the ball.
Fed is left eye dominant. Right eye dominant folks do better tracking rather than focusing to contact.
wh y is this channel called 2 min tennis but the vids are always longer than 2 minutes
Grow up !!
They told me all my life that if you bend your elbow you will damage your forearm
Bent elbow is just fine. And usually much easier for rec players.
Very aggressive follow though, but his head remains relatively still...so he doesn't pull away from the shot
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What is the reason why you wouldn't teach this wrist lag forehand to beginners..?
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Too many moving parts… KISS
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@@emjay2045 unlikely Ryan can do it himself based on what and how he teaches. Like he said, he only teaches Vic Braden stuff.
I honestly think that it is too advanced for most beginners as well.
Hey Ryan, bit of a weird video request but could you do a Denis shapovalov forehand technique analysis. Thanks!
Isn't Shapovalov all about his backhand?
@@sebastiandomagala9233 idk man, but his forehand is pretty good too
His forehand has pace, but it’s inconsistent.