Yep my battery drain is pretty heavy since 8.1 apparently its because there are a few apps that haven't been optimised yet for 8.1 including whatsapp and viber. Hopefully this will be resolved soon via the official roll out!!
You ARE the man Michael. You've always given WP a chance unlike a lot of other reviewers. This was a really good honest review. It's nice to see WP getting better and better, and when it's on a Nokia, well .... nokia hardware has always kicked ass...
I miss Windows Phone, look at the animation (and also lightweight) it makes my phone feel alive at that time, android is so boring, the only reason I bought android is just the apps.
My windows phone has been stolen while leaving for a minute in Cafeteria. I miss it so much, the UI, the transition animation and yes the stability & accent colors with pure black theme (which is currently trending now in Android ecosystem) and fluid user experience. Windows phone was ahead of time in 2013 Era, in which most of the android phones were look like dumb phone with no better quality. Windows phone was solid and sturdy due to the poly carbonate plastic which didn't feel like cheap, it's kinda matte finish and display was so gorgeous even in sunlight I didn't have to increase the brightness. windows phone could survive but sadly it couldn't.
Michael Fischer literally does the best reviews. Great technical language to spice up the commenting and gets straight to the point without any offset thoughts. Precise and concrete. LOVE IT.
Dont know why all reviewers start and end negatively about WP. The negatives are in BOLD but the positives are just brushed off in a quick low voice! Hmm.. Impartiality - where art thou!
Enjoyed this video - I was big on Windows Phone back in the day and still have the 1020 and 930 (a.k.a. 929 here). I still use them both for audio recording on my motorbike videos because those HAAC mics record sound up to 140 dB and are just awesome still 😊
I have to agree. Me being a strong apple hater, I would never touch a apple product. My wife however has used ipods and ipod touch for nearly a decade (ipod touch for only 3 years) and used to have a windows phone. She went to an iphone 5s for apps that link with her diabetic dr. (shes type one). So far she likes the iphone however itunes is now a pain to use and its the same with her ipod touch. The phone isnt as user friendly as her windows phone and the iphone draws in way more data. I mean I use my phone MORE on data than hers yet hers draws way more. No back ground apps going either. Kinda odd huh? After 7 months with her ihpone 5s, she still misses her windows phone. LOL
Used to think Windows phone had a lot of potential back then. Just wish they would have gotten better app support from their developers. Don't understand why they ever even had issues with it given the huge pockets Windows has as a company to buy proper development support.
Whenever i discuss Windows phones i always remember GTA V.. :P Michael who is the rich middle aged ex robber, has an iPhone, because he doesn't care for functionality, he just wants to have whatever is most expensive.. There's Franklin who has an android, who is young and still learning, but also has a very sharp mind and is the most sensible of all.. Then there's Trevor, with the windows phone, he doesn't care about anything except if the phone can be used as a blunt weapon to beat someone to death, but also be able to work and make calls afterwards.. :P
Please, I know your upset at the comment being made.... but don't lower yourself to that level.... your better than that, and that is disrespectful. I value your disgusted attitude, just not your choice of language..btw I am not gay, I just would like to see people start showing a little respect.... take my opinion or leave it..... not meant to make u feel stupid for your comment.
Bic Han what? Ummmm, was being respectful; why in the world would you respond like that? Was just giving my opinion, not sure why you feel like you would need to respond in that manner....
Garth Notestine Besides, seems like all you really do is sit on your ass and play video games all day, and say something like that to someone you don't even know? What is wrong with you? There is nothing wrong with being a descent person and treating each other with respect.....savvy?
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it's amazing how windows phone still looks stunning in 2022 and how android and iOS are still copying it's features... compare it to android and ios from that time period and it's night and day. such a shame it never succeeded.
If you guys want less negativity then check out my WP8.1 video :P seriously the new WP 8.1 is so amazing!!! By far my favorite OS!!! I'm sticking with Windows Phone over iOS and Android anyday!
I'm thinking of moving to a windows phone. Specifically the nokia lumia 1020. This review makes me feel much better about the decision. And I'm amazed at the positive feedback I've heard from almost everyone who's used a windows phone! I'm slightly disappointed that Cortana doesn't sound like Cortana though. Lol But how minor of a complaint is that!??
IMO the negative comment mostly comes from a)people that haven't really use the platform b)people that expecting closed source OS to be on par with open source OS likes android. c)people that expecting new ecosystem to have million of apps and each apps that available in long established rival's ecosystem while they keep chasing other potential user and developers away from this platform.
Cortana has the same voice actor as the video game but her recordings are not for every single conversation. its for the ones with an attitude. so its a mixture of both.
I think it's not that Cortana did not find the Dunkin Donut near you but rather she thought you're already there and you want to go to another branch. Maybe? Just an opinion. No offense to the reviewer.
Best things about windows phone 8.1 update and windows phone in general but listed in a random order. 1.FINALLY getting the action center. 2. Offline maps. Maps are stored on the device to be accessed anywhere without needing data 3. Integration with windows 8.1. They sync certain things together between phone and PC/Tablet and the apps in the store will now be basically the same thing across platforms. 4. Live tiles giving up to date information about what ever the tile deals with such as weather, emails, news, ect... 5. Cortana, who is more customized towards you and already does much of what Siri and Google Now already do and some stuff they don't but still needs work to listen better, integrate with some apps better, and do more things. 6. Data sense, Battery Sense, Storage Sense integrated apps that give good information about each one of these things to keep track and to help use your data, battery and storage better. 7. Wi-Fi sense. This will connect to any open wifi automatically which accepts any terms of agreement. This also allows friends on your contacts to be able to use your secure Wifi automatically without giving them the password. 8. People app lets you keep all of your contacts in once place and get their social media information in the same place. Lots of other good stuff such as the keyboard now timed as the fastest smart phone touch keyboard and lots of nice stuff I have found.
i want some more Xbox One integration on my Windows Phone but overall WP8.1 has me excited for the future of the platform. Hopefully Microsoft will update its Xbox apps soon.
im really tempted by the 8.1 update, i had a windows phone before and got rid of it after 6 months because of the missing features, im currently on my 1st iPhone ever the 5s i used to be on Android well LAG-Droid lol
ok, lets be honest, some of the Sony's ive used have lag and a lot of the lower end Android devices still have Lag, for Android to run smooth you need the latest phone out.
Well not quite, you just have to know what to buy... My nexus 4 is almost 2 years old now and is much smoother and considerably faster than my sisters lumia 920 (i am running a very modified version of android) All the newer sony phones i used (eg. Xperia M - low end and Xperia Z - high to mid range) all of them working like a charm... You do need to spend some money on a decent android experience, but if you make and educated purchase, you would be happy... I like wp8 a lot, i just think trashing android has become corny and untrue
Thats true 9 out of 10 people wont know what decent Android to buy, and my experience with WP8 was a Lumia 620 and i have to give it to them there was never any stutter or lag, the speed was surprising. i have played about with the Z2 and at times there is stutter and tiny bits of lag unlocking it and multi tasking. im not trashing Android, its mainly the phone its running on, plus with Android not every phone gets the latest update, or they get stopped with 4.1 or 4.2 and no further. Android is a good OS but i think they need to be more supportive to lower end devices as thats were most of their user base is.
True, the first decent low end android phone in my country is xperia m, and it costs the same as lumia 525 (which is peanuts money, really), which makes sense because both use the same hardware... I usually recommend wp to my friends if they cant afford full-fat android phone because it works better and more consistantly... Especially to female friends, girls really know how to make a mess out of flagships, let alone budget phones... A few years back you needed a 500-600$ android phone if you wanted smoothness, now you need as little as 200$... As far as the upgrades go, my mates xperia z got 4.4.2... In perspective, my nexus has the same version... It is getting better, not quite there yet, but not bad either
2:05 I disagree, that's one thing that I've been waiting for a long time. It's very handy to check e.g. your cellular connection strength quickly or after the 8.1 update comes out then to see instantly if you have missed notifications without even opening the notification center.
I just upgraded from HTC Titan 7.8 to Nokia 1020 8.1 3 days ago, It has been an amazing experience! I agreed with every comment in that video, but couldnt help wanting to point things that were missed. Noted stated, But the most impressive is the syncing with Windows Explorer, and the simultaneously update in real time on the phones explorer. Its been a well deserved change for the patient faithful, and as said, Very tempting product now.
Adam Lein contributed a critical amount of material to this review (and to the written one). Without him, it would have been nowhere near as extensive. ^M
Pocketnow I know you can't bad mouth your colleagues but take it from the people, he's a very knowledgeable guy especially when it comes to Microsoft but his presence on video is severely lacking. He's way too monotonic and lacks the flair that you bring to Pocketnow videos.
Pocketnow Sorry for sounding abrupt Michael. He is definitely one of the most knowledgeable with regards to Microsoft in your team, as I've been following you guys for many years.
Dante Bradley You tune in for the content but it's the videography and personality of the host that keeps you watching. Adam Lein makes you fall asleep, he's very much suited to written reviews.
It was a late update, but it was a good update. I'm finally glad to see these features being offered on the platform now. I don't think they are "trying" to be like iOS or Android, they have to offer the same features or perish like Blackberry. After beta, I think it has a good chance to compete and gain some ground.
2:12 Of course it was necessary because now if you swipe from up to down you get the notification center, so the battery bars and all that need to be visible all times.
sure IOS and Andriod users are not happy to see this, they probably want windows phone dead, but she's rising and gaining more grounds... hahahahaa....
Actually no, I own a SGS3 and Nexus 7 2013 and if only windows phone had a better market place "more apps" , I would sell my phone to get a windows phone device.
windows phone got apps, ok let say then what about now? the only thing windows phone is missing is rubbish apps that flourish play store and app store.Seif El Din Abou Eisha
It as soo good if windows phone was able to take over android. This is the most trusted company, even the phone is good and midrange and also apps are mid range prices which is good. But ios has so high price and also apps are also of high rate. This phone could have helped a lot middle class peoples.
Honestly i think Internet Explorer is a good browser for phones, for desktop i used to like the old Opera pre v12. Now i use firefox for the extensions, but the latest IE wasnt bad if ignore the fact it has almost no extension.
I'd be interested to see how 8.1 handles gaming; that is really the only point in which the phones of today and the platforms they run on can really be challenged.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster wow really that many dam that's so cool. Do you have a iPhone or andoid? wow if you do I so want to be like you when I grow up.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster iphone 6 =620 pounds, samsung s4=630 Lumia 930= 460, Think ill buy the lumia 930 and use the spare 150 pounds on a tablet or a new monitor.
I would happily switch to Windows Phone as a long standing Android user. But the apps I really need or use are not there. Neither are any alternatives. Everyone starts small. The performance of Windows OS on a phone is top notch. Beautiful really. A hundred odd pounds for a phone that performs like a £600 Android. Once the apps situation improves, I'll make the switch. Right now, can't use it as my daily driver.
Kudos to you, Mr. Fisher. With all due respect to your fellow PN reviewers, your videos are easily the best and IMHO the standard upon which other online videos should be measured. Insightful commentary, excellent production value, and non-biased opinions. Please keep up the great work!
Just sharing for those that saying Live Tiles interface is messy etc. Here's my start screen after wp8.1 where I arrange the tiles according to my priority and needs. 1drv.ms/1foT3y6
z4520ft and Lee Seonho, you two have made my decision even easier in getting a Windows phone. I thought to get a clear background, you'd have to download the transparency tiles or something? Is that what you guys did?
StrickenWithFear What you saw in my screenshot was all done using default tiles. Some developers or strong brands (such as Facebook, Evernote etc) still using their official color but I already see some of developers including the option for transparency tiles in their app. In case the developers doesn't include the transparency tile yet, I just use this app; Transparency Tiles which as the name suggest provides transparency tiles for some popular apps such as Facebook, Foursquare, Here Drive etc.
There's also one BIG feature not being mentioned in this video - embedded video playback in the new internet explorer. It even supports RUclips annotations.
Microsoft make one good PC OS then a bad one then again a good one, but why they needed three WP version (7,7.8,8) to make it good is wired but still they did it, hope they don't mess it again.
I love the new features, this new update is packed and full of improvements. I'm excited to see the new features, the swipe keyboard is amazing, Cortana is awesome it gives you a lot of features and a lot of functionality even though it's just in the beta stage, the action center coupled with the new volume menu gives a lot of convenience and functionality with the notifications, speaking of notifications the messages now have a feature to choose to not get notifications from threads of your choice, the extra row and background picture gives the user extra possibilities to personalize, I like that unlike the smart cam you get the comfort of having a choice between using the buttons or tapping on the screen to take a picture and it has an easy arrangement to switch between functions, the calendar also has a neat feature that also shows weather, and even though it didn't show it here IE is starting to look promising, even though I use chrome IE is starting to entice me with connection between devices, the reading mode gives some convenience, and you can lower the amount of data that pictures use in the browser settings, and I believe you can also do it in the phone settings. With all these enhancements and some I might have not mentioned I still think that even taking certain features that might have slightly changed or supposed undesirable changes into account I'm one happy camper.
Burgerpants It's "finished" now. If you can call a system, that is updated regularly. But it's stable, fast, and beautiful. And it brings so much new functionality to the OS. It is way more better than 8.1 (I'm talking about 10586.218 and 242, not the fast ring builds. Don't expect a bugless OS on the fast ring, because its purpuse is beta testing...)
+Burgerpants The slow ring is not stable, because it's on Redstone. But the production build (the one you get with the upgrade advisor) and the release preview rings build are both stable. I'm on the release preview ring with my daily driver Lumia 535, and it runs just as smooth as 8.1 did.
Random Drunken Serb updated with upgrade advisor last week, battery draining fast and most games (such as asphalt 8) still has that touch issue (which wasn't there at windows 8.1). Otherwise, would've been a great os.
From one blogger to another, don't use your middle finger to tap your phone when showing it lol. It seems innocent enough, but you're actually fingering everyone who're watching lol can see it around the 1:50 mark :P
Who doesn't? Apple copied from Android as well, and now all UI are having flat designs like Metro UI. As long as we are copying the good things - not the laggness from TouchWiz, why not? :D
To be honest I never owned a windows phone but used one of my friends. Its look is so good and charming and also social apps are less which makes me save from facebook addiction. And battery life is also good for windows phone. But I think if they could have inserted some games like pubg mobile and cod mobile2 it would have been good.
Honestly, I wish they would put some of the features back they got rid of and change the action center. The action center should be swiped to the left when in start menu form, and then pulled down when in an app or on the internet. Other than that I think I might go back to windows. I had the original Windows 7 and I had not issues so maybe I'll go back.
***** It's not too inconsistent though. Also I would like something to the left of the screen as well. Why just the start menu, then go right, then pull down? It's strange.
the problem with swiping from the left is that it would interfere with all the apps that already have swiping from the left (which happens with most apps). The other reason is, as already mentioned, consumer expectation coming from other OS's of finding a notification center on the top.
@Jernario gill It won't mess up your phone. I installed it on my 920 yesterday with no problem. SO MANY new features it's insane. The new keyboard by itself is worth it, let alone the new Start screen, and new IE11 browser, Cortana etc etc.
Few days into a Lumia 620...gotta say, I'm not missing Android that much; battery life is great, no hiccups whatsoever, smoothness is unbeatable. If I had to pick a mayor let down it would be the apps/games, they had quite some time to catch up and the libraries are still far from impressive. By this I don't mean I'm completely ditching Android, I would still preffer it in tablets, as far as IOS...I don't think any kind of upgrade would make me want to switch to it.
just upgraded to 8.1, after installation it felt lagging on my 8x, but luckily now its gone back to its original smooth os after a restart.. and LOVEING THE UPDATE.. Thank you Microsoft..
The title wallpaper-tile design is strange. I would've much preferred a normal wallpaper like in Windows 8's start screen. The addition of a notification centre is great but I think Android still does it best by placing icons in the notification bar to alert you that something's waiting.
Action Center definitely has some maturing to do, but it also places icons in the status bar to alert you of waiting notifications. You can see one next to the signal meter at 2:06. ^M
Good to see windows phone improving. The Surface tablets were the first thing to catch my attention, but not pull me away from Android. I love the design of the Icon, but Windows Phone just isn't where I need it to be to make the jump from Android not hurt as much.
Is their going to be an update for Window Phone 8.1 on Nokia Lumia 521 because I could really use a sound slider bar because my button for volume fell out.
i LOVE my Nokia 1520. I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. THE MORE I USE MY PHONE THE MORE I LOVE IT. I switched my entire family to windows phone. my wife loves here 1020, and my kids love their 521 at a great price. this win8.1 update gives our phones more options to use. I knew about Cortana since last year. I know Jen Taylor the actual voice of Cortana from the Game Halo, doing alot of recording for it. So as time goes by, she gets better and better. I cant wait. Great job MS.
2:47 by god that looks so FUTURISTIC and appealing. WP was pinnacle anyone accepts or not.
Finally WP has the functionality and slickness to compete. Iv used Android for years but im loving my 1520 with 8.1!!
How's your battery life with the 8.1 on Lumia 1520? My battery is draining like its nothing.
Please let me know how the app world is over there, I really need to know, do they have it altogether now, I really want to leave samsung
***** While it still easily lasts through the day my lumia 1520's battery is getting eaten in comparison
KEANU WHITE Yes. And pls, leave plastic.
Yep my battery drain is pretty heavy since 8.1 apparently its because there are a few apps that haven't been optimised yet for 8.1 including whatsapp and viber. Hopefully this will be resolved soon via the official roll out!!
You ARE the man Michael. You've always given WP a chance unlike a lot of other reviewers. This was a really good honest review. It's nice to see WP getting better and better, and when it's on a Nokia, well .... nokia hardware has always kicked ass...
Michael= Pocketnow
PLEASE SOMEONE BRING THIS BACK 😭😭😭😭
I miss Windows Phone, look at the animation (and also lightweight) it makes my phone feel alive at that time, android is so boring, the only reason I bought android is just the apps.
My windows phone has been stolen while leaving for a minute in Cafeteria. I miss it so much, the UI, the transition animation and yes the stability & accent colors with pure black theme (which is currently trending now in Android ecosystem) and fluid user experience. Windows phone was ahead of time in 2013 Era, in which most of the android phones were look like dumb phone with no better quality. Windows phone was solid and sturdy due to the poly carbonate plastic which didn't feel like cheap, it's kinda matte finish and display was so gorgeous even in sunlight I didn't have to increase the brightness. windows phone could survive but sadly it couldn't.
Michael Fischer literally does the best reviews. Great technical language to spice up the commenting and gets straight to the point without any offset thoughts. Precise and concrete. LOVE IT.
Dont know why all reviewers start and end negatively about WP. The negatives are in BOLD but the positives are just brushed off in a quick low voice!
Hmm.. Impartiality - where art thou!
@@diegopacheco2561 its more dead now.
Enjoyed this video - I was big on Windows Phone back in the day and still have the 1020 and 930 (a.k.a. 929 here). I still use them both for audio recording on my motorbike videos because those HAAC mics record sound up to 140 dB and are just awesome still 😊
Ay I've seen ur vids
Windows over iOS anyday.
Why?
Android over Windows and iOS, any day... hahaha
Aymeric Ingargiola Yes but if I had to choose between iOS & Windows I'd pick windows easily.
it's just a joke xD All os are good... just diferent public ^^
I have to agree. Me being a strong apple hater, I would never touch a apple product. My wife however has used ipods and ipod touch for nearly a decade (ipod touch for only 3 years) and used to have a windows phone. She went to an iphone 5s for apps that link with her diabetic dr. (shes type one). So far she likes the iphone however itunes is now a pain to use and its the same with her ipod touch. The phone isnt as user friendly as her windows phone and the iphone draws in way more data. I mean I use my phone MORE on data than hers yet hers draws way more. No back ground apps going either. Kinda odd huh? After 7 months with her ihpone 5s, she still misses her windows phone. LOL
Used to think Windows phone had a lot of potential back then. Just wish they would have gotten better app support from their developers. Don't understand why they ever even had issues with it given the huge pockets Windows has as a company to buy proper development support.
If windows phone have more apps for games then I would not think twice in choosing window phone,we need more competition for smartphone!!
It's 2023. Here i am and yes i miss this OS the most
Watching this while waiting for WP8.1 to install on my Lumia 1020 :)
Outstanding. Enjoy! ^M
***** + 920
920!
Same here, almost done :)
Njoi Fontes same here with my s4 advance but i'm waiting for the update of launcher 8 to launcher 8.1 ;)
android rocks !!!!
Whenever i discuss Windows phones i always remember GTA V.. :P Michael who is the rich middle aged ex robber, has an iPhone, because he doesn't care for functionality, he just wants to have whatever is most expensive.. There's Franklin who has an android, who is young and still learning, but also has a very sharp mind and is the most sensible of all..
Then there's Trevor, with the windows phone, he doesn't care about anything except if the phone can be used as a blunt weapon to beat someone to death, but also be able to work and make calls afterwards.. :P
Please, I know your upset at the comment being made.... but don't lower yourself to that level.... your better than that, and that is disrespectful. I value your disgusted attitude, just not your choice of language..btw I am not gay, I just would like to see people start showing a little respect.... take my opinion or leave it..... not meant to make u feel stupid for your comment.
Bic Han what? Ummmm, was being respectful; why in the world would you respond like that? Was just giving my opinion, not sure why you feel like you would need to respond in that manner....
Garth Notestine Besides, seems like all you really do is sit on your ass and play video games all day, and say something like that to someone you don't even know? What is wrong with you? There is nothing wrong with being a descent person and treating each other with respect.....savvy?
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it's amazing how windows phone still looks stunning in 2022 and how android and iOS are still copying it's features... compare it to android and ios from that time period and it's night and day. such a shame it never succeeded.
If you guys want less negativity then check out my WP8.1 video :P seriously the new WP 8.1 is so amazing!!! By far my favorite OS!!! I'm sticking with Windows Phone over iOS and Android anyday!
Lina Agustina Sidauruk Or symbian OS :)
We need cortana for Xbox One tho. Or Windows.
Totally agree
I believe they said its coming to PCs and Xbox one later
Oh
It’s on windows now
I'm thinking of moving to a windows phone. Specifically the nokia lumia 1020. This review makes me feel much better about the decision. And I'm amazed at the positive feedback I've heard from almost everyone who's used a windows phone! I'm slightly disappointed that Cortana doesn't sound like Cortana though. Lol But how minor of a complaint is that!??
Microsoft is working on getting the voice more like halo's cortana
IMO the negative comment mostly comes from
a)people that haven't really use the platform
b)people that expecting closed source OS to be on par with open source OS likes android.
c)people that expecting new ecosystem to have million of apps and each apps that available in long established rival's ecosystem while they keep chasing other potential user and developers away from this platform.
Cortana has the same voice actor as the video game but her recordings are not for every single conversation. its for the ones with an attitude. so its a mixture of both.
She sounds more like cortana now! It's still in beta so microsoft are still adding things in
I think you should buy Lumia 930 instead of 1020. The hardware is better, except the camera.
I think it's not that Cortana did not find the Dunkin Donut near you but rather she thought you're already there and you want to go to another branch. Maybe? Just an opinion. No offense to the reviewer.
That's what I was thinking
or maybe during that time the dunkin donuts he was at was actually just a new branch and wasnt in the map's archives yet. . hmmm
Best things about windows phone 8.1 update and windows phone in general but listed in a random order.
1.FINALLY getting the action center.
2. Offline maps. Maps are stored on the device to be accessed anywhere without needing data
3. Integration with windows 8.1. They sync certain things together between phone and PC/Tablet and the apps in the store will now be basically the same thing across platforms.
4. Live tiles giving up to date information about what ever the tile deals with such as weather, emails, news, ect...
5. Cortana, who is more customized towards you and already does much of what Siri and Google Now already do and some stuff they don't but still needs work to listen better, integrate with some apps better, and do more things.
6. Data sense, Battery Sense, Storage Sense integrated apps that give good information about each one of these things to keep track and to help use your data, battery and storage better.
7. Wi-Fi sense. This will connect to any open wifi automatically which accepts any terms of agreement. This also allows friends on your contacts to be able to use your secure Wifi automatically without giving them the password.
8. People app lets you keep all of your contacts in once place and get their social media information in the same place.
Lots of other good stuff such as the keyboard now timed as the fastest smart phone touch keyboard and lots of nice stuff I have found.
i want some more Xbox One integration on my Windows Phone but overall WP8.1 has me excited for the future of the platform. Hopefully Microsoft will update its Xbox apps soon.
Boy got one stolen check xbox live fcc bcc Noé Tour hip
My Samsung Ativ S is still alive and kicking. It is December 2022. Windows Phone forever!
Shame that this system was end. I Love very much Windows Phone, and in my opinion is the best system mobile.
Installed WP 8.1 and I have only one word - brilliant!
im really tempted by the 8.1 update, i had a windows phone before and got rid of it after 6 months because of the missing features, im currently on my 1st iPhone ever the 5s i used to be on Android well LAG-Droid lol
LAG-Droid? Really? Do you still live in 2011?
ok, lets be honest, some of the Sony's ive used have lag and a lot of the lower end Android devices still have Lag, for Android to run smooth you need the latest phone out.
Well not quite, you just have to know what to buy... My nexus 4 is almost 2 years old now and is much smoother and considerably faster than my sisters lumia 920 (i am running a very modified version of android) All the newer sony phones i used (eg. Xperia M - low end and Xperia Z - high to mid range) all of them working like a charm... You do need to spend some money on a decent android experience, but if you make and educated purchase, you would be happy... I like wp8 a lot, i just think trashing android has become corny and untrue
Thats true 9 out of 10 people wont know what decent Android to buy, and my experience with WP8 was a Lumia 620 and i have to give it to them there was never any stutter or lag, the speed was surprising. i have played about with the Z2 and at times there is stutter and tiny bits of lag unlocking it and multi tasking. im not trashing Android, its mainly the phone its running on, plus with Android not every phone gets the latest update, or they get stopped with 4.1 or 4.2 and no further. Android is a good OS but i think they need to be more supportive to lower end devices as thats were most of their user base is.
True, the first decent low end android phone in my country is xperia m, and it costs the same as lumia 525 (which is peanuts money, really), which makes sense because both use the same hardware... I usually recommend wp to my friends if they cant afford full-fat android phone because it works better and more consistantly... Especially to female friends, girls really know how to make a mess out of flagships, let alone budget phones... A few years back you needed a 500-600$ android phone if you wanted smoothness, now you need as little as 200$... As far as the upgrades go, my mates xperia z got 4.4.2... In perspective, my nexus has the same version... It is getting better, not quite there yet, but not bad either
2:05 I disagree, that's one thing that I've been waiting for a long time. It's very handy to check e.g. your cellular connection strength quickly or after the 8.1 update comes out then to see instantly if you have missed notifications without even opening the notification center.
Is it compatible with Nokia Lumia 920?
I would buy a Windows phone second to Android!
I disagree windows 8.1 is a huge step forward. And cortana beats siri and goolge now any day and its still beta
I just upgraded from HTC Titan 7.8 to Nokia 1020 8.1 3 days ago, It has been an amazing experience! I agreed with every comment in that video, but couldnt help wanting to point things that were missed. Noted stated, But the most impressive is the syncing with Windows Explorer, and the simultaneously update in real time on the phones explorer. Its been a well deserved change for the patient faithful, and as said, Very tempting product now.
Thank you for not allowing Adam Lein to do this review.
Adam Lein contributed a critical amount of material to this review (and to the written one). Without him, it would have been nowhere near as extensive. ^M
Pocketnow I know you can't bad mouth your colleagues but take it from the people, he's a very knowledgeable guy especially when it comes to Microsoft but his presence on video is severely lacking. He's way too monotonic and lacks the flair that you bring to Pocketnow videos.
Pocketnow Sorry for sounding abrupt Michael. He is definitely one of the most knowledgeable with regards to Microsoft in your team, as I've been following you guys for many years.
***** I'm sorry but I didn't tune in to this video for a bubbly personality. But I see where you are coming from.
Dante Bradley You tune in for the content but it's the videography and personality of the host that keeps you watching. Adam Lein makes you fall asleep, he's very much suited to written reviews.
It was a late update, but it was a good update. I'm finally glad to see these features being offered on the platform now. I don't think they are "trying" to be like iOS or Android, they have to offer the same features or perish like Blackberry. After beta, I think it has a good chance to compete and gain some ground.
If you have Windows Phone 8.1, download Transparent Tiles...
Thank me later 😊
2:12 Of course it was necessary because now if you swipe from up to down you get the notification center, so the battery bars and all that need to be visible all times.
What a solid review, iam an android user but now iam considering to move to WP , just considering !!!!!!!
Loved the review, can't wait for my L920 to update!!!
sure IOS and Andriod users are not happy to see this, they probably want windows phone dead, but she's rising and gaining more grounds... hahahahaa....
why would we? competitions good for customers
Actually no, I own a SGS3 and Nexus 7 2013 and if only windows phone had a better market place "more apps" , I would sell my phone to get a windows phone device.
windows phone got apps, ok let say then what about now? the only thing windows phone is missing is rubbish apps that flourish play store and app store.Seif El Din Abou Eisha
***** I like you bcos u're been honest, hell no you can't install this on any andriod phone, wp is not a rooted OS
***** You know what? I actually agree with you, maybe the next phone I'll get will be a wp.
It as soo good if windows phone was able to take over android.
This is the most trusted company, even the phone is good and midrange and also apps are mid range prices which is good.
But ios has so high price and also apps are also of high rate.
This phone could have helped a lot middle class peoples.
Honestly i think Internet Explorer is a good browser for phones, for desktop i used to like the old Opera pre v12. Now i use firefox for the extensions, but the latest IE wasnt bad if ignore the fact it has almost no extension.
I'd be interested to see how 8.1 handles gaming; that is really the only point in which the phones of today and the platforms they run on can really be challenged.
Windows Phone is fantastic...The app's are fine...300,000 apps now come on guys..
Apple has 1.2 Million apps...
Android has 1.3 Million apps...
The Flying Spaghetti Monster who cares??you have 1.2/1.3 Million apps on your phone??
The Flying Spaghetti Monster wow really that many dam that's so cool. Do you have a iPhone or andoid? wow if you do I so want to be like you when I grow up.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster iphone 6 =620 pounds, samsung s4=630 Lumia 930= 460, Think ill buy the lumia 930 and use the spare 150 pounds on a tablet or a new monitor.
I would happily switch to Windows Phone as a long standing Android user. But the apps I really need or use are not there. Neither are any alternatives. Everyone starts small. The performance of Windows OS on a phone is top notch. Beautiful really. A hundred odd pounds for a phone that performs like a £600 Android. Once the apps situation improves, I'll make the switch. Right now, can't use it as my daily driver.
As always Mr.fisher a very informative and well explained video. Thanks.
great Nice to see ya back Michael, you make this channel great.
this huge update maybe will be one of my reasons when i decide to leave android for WP8 smartphone :)
Incredible review Michael !
Thanks for watching! ^M
Micheal Fisher you are great Reviewer...you teach me modern technology
Windows Phone 8.1 will be avaible for the Lumia 520?
WP 8.1 will be available for all Windows phone 8 devices.
www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/22doot/windows_phone_developer_preview_and_you/
For all existing Windows Phone 8 devices. Not for 7.8 ones though.
Never tried a WP 8.1 phone nor have I known anyone that has; but, wow, I've got to admit, it looks way more beautiful and smoother than Kitkat.
Wow, MS did a good job!!!
Yeah! Just copied all Android features!
TheGeostar86 Ugh.. Define the word copy.
TheGeostar86 technically they didn't really copy much. I use a HTC one myself but I think Microsoft really did a good job this time with 8.1
TheGeostar86 stop being a hypocrite. Google copied features from ios and Windows
Awesome review. I am a hardcore Android user owning the Note 3 and strongly considering getting this phone on my upgrade next month.
Windows 8.1 looks great on that Nokia phone!
Kudos to you, Mr. Fisher. With all due respect to your fellow PN reviewers, your videos are easily the best and IMHO the standard upon which other online videos should be measured. Insightful commentary, excellent production value, and non-biased opinions. Please keep up the great work!
Just sharing for those that saying Live Tiles interface is messy etc.
Here's my start screen after wp8.1 where I arrange the tiles according to my priority and needs.
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And this is mine: 1drv.ms/1mFkWah
Lee Seonho #wpartist :P
Nice Lee! And OP.
z4520ft and Lee Seonho, you two have made my decision even easier in getting a Windows phone. I thought to get a clear background, you'd have to download the transparency tiles or something? Is that what you guys did?
StrickenWithFear What you saw in my screenshot was all done using default tiles. Some developers or strong brands (such as Facebook, Evernote etc) still using their official color but I already see some of developers including the option for transparency tiles in their app. In case the developers doesn't include the transparency tile yet, I just use this app; Transparency Tiles which as the name suggest provides transparency tiles for some popular apps such as Facebook, Foursquare, Here Drive etc.
Hi Michael! Can you tell me where did you get that background picture (Lumia Icon). Looks awesome. Btw, excellent review.
looks better then the iphone
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There's also one BIG feature not being mentioned in this video - embedded video playback in the new internet explorer. It even supports RUclips annotations.
Microsoft make one good PC OS then a bad one then again a good one, but why they needed three WP version (7,7.8,8) to make it good is wired but still they did it, hope they don't mess it again.
It took Microsoft three Windows versions for Windows to get off the ground.
I love the new features, this new update is packed and full of improvements. I'm excited to see the new features, the swipe keyboard is amazing, Cortana is awesome it gives you a lot of features and a lot of functionality even though it's just in the beta stage, the action center coupled with the new volume menu gives a lot of convenience and functionality with the notifications, speaking of notifications the messages now have a feature to choose to not get notifications from threads of your choice, the extra row and background picture gives the user extra possibilities to personalize, I like that unlike the smart cam you get the comfort of having a choice between using the buttons or tapping on the screen to take a picture and it has an easy arrangement to switch between functions, the calendar also has a neat feature that also shows weather, and even though it didn't show it here IE is starting to look promising, even though I use chrome IE is starting to entice me with connection between devices, the reading mode gives some convenience, and you can lower the amount of data that pictures use in the browser settings, and I believe you can also do it in the phone settings. With all these enhancements and some I might have not mentioned I still think that even taking certain features that might have slightly changed or supposed undesirable changes into account I'm one happy camper.
anyone else still having their phones run 8.1 and not giving a shit about that unfinished product called windows 10?
Burgerpants It's "finished" now. If you can call a system, that is updated regularly. But it's stable, fast, and beautiful. And it brings so much new functionality to the OS. It is way more better than 8.1
(I'm talking about 10586.218 and 242, not the fast ring builds. Don't expect a bugless OS on the fast ring, because its purpuse is beta testing...)
Random Drunken Serb so the slow ring build is stable now? or is it the upgrade advisor?
+Burgerpants The slow ring is not stable, because it's on Redstone. But the production build (the one you get with the upgrade advisor) and the release preview rings build are both stable. I'm on the release preview ring with my daily driver Lumia 535, and it runs just as smooth as 8.1 did.
Random Drunken Serb updated with upgrade advisor last week, battery draining fast and most games (such as asphalt 8) still has that touch issue (which wasn't there at windows 8.1). Otherwise, would've been a great os.
Burgerpants Yeah, old Silverlight games are a little bit problematic. But looking at all the new features, the upgrade was a no brainer for me :D
I'm glad there's the swipe keyboard option. I used that on Android and loved it. So happy it's on 8.1 , it's better than typing and quicker too.
From one blogger to another, don't use your middle finger to tap your phone when showing it lol.
It seems innocent enough, but you're actually fingering everyone who're watching lol can see it around the 1:50 mark :P
I have to try a Windows phone when they get version 10!
I'm also curious. I wonder if I will be able to twist microsofts are for s free one :P
I want one!
Windows 8 always made me claustrophobic fsr both on my pc and on my phone
Windows over iOS !!
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Watching this on my Lumia 950. I love this thing.
I will never grow to like the "tiles" (metro), it is simply cluttered.
It can be arranged much cleaner than done on this icon. I never understand why people like to make such a big mess out of it.
1989ElLoco I have used a 928 for a considerable amount of time, and even then the home screen is not appealing. - With little mess.
then don't buy a windows phone and shut up because a lot of people like it.
Edward Martinez I doubt you have even gotten close to one.
*Typed from my Lumia 925
@Jurgen Ibro It will be preinstalled on new devices from the start of May
windows phone is really appealing now but it copies features from ios and android specially the action centre
Who doesn't? Apple copied from Android as well, and now all UI are having flat designs like Metro UI. As long as we are copying the good things - not the laggness from TouchWiz, why not? :D
Mun Chee Hong couldn't agree more
Mun Chee Hong yeah i guess some features are a must so someone has to copy someone
Oh you mean like Google copies from Metro Design principles and then IOS copied from Metro? oh yeah they do copy... like they get copied.
you sure? Apple copied from Android and WP xD
both Android and iOS copied from WP8 ("Flat UI")
xD
I'm really excited about what Cortana can be in the future- but right now WP still feels a little lacking...
this phone is pretty.
To be honest I never owned a windows phone but used one of my friends.
Its look is so good and charming and also social apps are less which makes me save from facebook addiction. And battery life is also good for windows phone.
But I think if they could have inserted some games like pubg mobile and cod mobile2 it would have been good.
Bye bye Windows Mobile :(
Got it on my 920 its a nice update
Honestly, I wish they would put some of the features back they got rid of and change the action center. The action center should be swiped to the left when in start menu form, and then pulled down when in an app or on the internet. Other than that I think I might go back to windows. I had the original Windows 7 and I had not issues so maybe I'll go back.
***** It's not too inconsistent though. Also I would like something to the left of the screen as well. Why just the start menu, then go right, then pull down? It's strange.
the problem with swiping from the left is that it would interfere with all the apps that already have swiping from the left (which happens with most apps). The other reason is, as already mentioned, consumer expectation coming from other OS's of finding a notification center on the top.
Njoi Fontes They need something on the left screen though.
***** I just want something their, maybe it's been because of Android using where you could swipe from side to side that I'm used to it.
Well two weeks ago I ditched my iPhone and my Droid to try out Nokia Lumia 1520. I gotta say I love ❤ this phone and the Windows OS.
Jo Johnson Welcome to the Windows Phone community bro ;) The 1520 is a legend :D It's the Chuck Norris of Windows Phones :D
@Huntertje13 You can always change it in settings back to mobile version instead of the desktop version
My HTC 8x updated itself to 8.1 last night. Very nice update and the phone feels even faster. A few new functions to learn.
Have WP 8.1 on my Lumia 920 and its like having a new phone. Awesome update. Well done Microsoft.
@VikasNanda did you lose all your personal data when you installed the developer preview?
@Jernario gill It won't mess up your phone. I installed it on my 920 yesterday with no problem. SO MANY new features it's insane. The new keyboard by itself is worth it, let alone the new Start screen, and new IE11 browser, Cortana etc etc.
I've installed it on my HTC 8X, and same thing; no issues whatsoever. Just a lot of goodness!
damn you are on any windows phone video.i see your face like in every video i see for the last 2 weeks...
Mike Geor Yup I'm everywhere :)
Muyanzi Reid niiiice!
how do you save things on the micro sd card insted of the phones internal memory?
@Sam Sheng Ruhanen Summer but the developer preview update is available to download now.
System wide dark theme! Way ahead of the times!
Wish this was a thing on android :/
It is actually exist now
Few days into a Lumia 620...gotta say, I'm not missing Android that much; battery life is great, no hiccups whatsoever, smoothness is unbeatable. If I had to pick a mayor let down it would be the apps/games, they had quite some time to catch up and the libraries are still far from impressive.
By this I don't mean I'm completely ditching Android, I would still preffer it in tablets, as far as IOS...I don't think any kind of upgrade would make me want to switch to it.
the best go to review page is pocketnow to me.
just upgraded to 8.1, after installation it felt lagging on my 8x, but luckily now its gone back to its original smooth os after a restart.. and LOVEING THE UPDATE.. Thank you Microsoft..
Your reviews sound so poetic!
just picked up the lumia 1020 as my first smartphone, glad to see the platforms getting stronger with this new update!
Will the WP 8.1 updete available on nokia lumia 525?
Some features u forgot to tell. Internet Explorer 11 is one of them. How about online video playback?
will the nokia lumia 625 be updated as well? or just the higher end phones? and also when will the update be available to the public?
Now that's what I call a quality review, good job guys!
The title wallpaper-tile design is strange. I would've much preferred a normal wallpaper like in Windows 8's start screen. The addition of a notification centre is great but I think Android still does it best by placing icons in the notification bar to alert you that something's waiting.
Action Center definitely has some maturing to do, but it also places icons in the status bar to alert you of waiting notifications. You can see one next to the signal meter at 2:06. ^M
Pocketnow Does it do it for third party apps too?
***** Yes indeed. ^M
Pocketnow Could you guys consider making a video on WP8.1 specifically on lower-end models like the Lumia 520/525, 620, etc?
Pocketnow Difference is, it's just 1 indicator icon common to all apps, unlike in Android where each app has its own icon in the bar.
Good to see windows phone improving. The Surface tablets were the first thing to catch my attention, but not pull me away from Android. I love the design of the Icon, but Windows Phone just isn't where I need it to be to make the jump from Android not hurt as much.
Dante, there are apps for YT, like MetroTube. You can be signed into it, upload and downloadcontent.
Is their going to be an update for Window Phone 8.1 on Nokia Lumia 521 because I could really use a sound slider bar because my button for volume fell out.
bummer that the picture hub background has gone missing, but the other changes are a welcome indeed
i LOVE my Nokia 1520. I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. THE MORE I USE MY PHONE THE MORE I LOVE IT. I switched my entire family to windows phone. my wife loves here 1020, and my kids love their 521 at a great price. this win8.1 update gives our phones more options to use. I knew about Cortana since last year. I know Jen Taylor the actual voice of Cortana from the Game Halo, doing alot of recording for it. So as time goes by, she gets better and better. I cant wait. Great job MS.
I want this update now! Did they set any date yet?