How Joy Division Influenced the Existential Aesthetic

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • A video essay on how Joy Division (Ian Curtis, Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris) influenced the existential aesthetic in culture.
    The members of Joy Division would later go on to form New Order.
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Комментарии • 23

  • @NerdgazmCS
    @NerdgazmCS 10 месяцев назад +29

    good video but nietzsche absolutely did not "father" nihilism, more like the opposite, he completely opposed it

    • @WoeToAllThatWalkTheEarth
      @WoeToAllThatWalkTheEarth 10 месяцев назад +10

      pop philosophy ruined nietzsche. people think he's like some atheist edgelord or something

  • @silhill3914
    @silhill3914 11 месяцев назад +24

    I just wanna say how much I appreciate ur channel. The combination of Punk and Rock music with Fashion ist just amazing. You introduced me to some of my favorite music rn like joy division. Ur channel is definitely so underrated which may be because it’s a bit to niche but never change that to be more accessible because your videos are just perfect and there’s nothing else like them on RUclips And your series about Punk in Fashion is one of the best series/Videos on RUclips. They are just perfect in every way watched them many times and still enjoy them I would love to see you make another series like it. Keep on with the great work and remember that though you might not have “many” subscribers compared to some others(who are also very boring and mainstream) your channel is singular and irreplaceable.

  • @alexandergraham6912
    @alexandergraham6912 2 месяца назад +1

    Curtis also loved J.G. Ballard's "Atrocity Exhibition" from which he took the song title, and watched Werner Herzog's 1977 film "Strozek"on the last night of his life, which deals with a group of lost European expats stranded in the harsh and unforgiving wasteland of the American Midwest, drifting into isolation, madness, and suicidal despair. The band was on the eve of its American debut tour, and this film is a profound and to-this-day unknown key into Curtis's feverish state of mind on that tragic spring evening of May 1980. Pay close attention to the symbolism of the "novelty" display of the imprisoned "musical chicken" pecking away on a cheap toy piano inside of a glass box...a searing metaphor for how Curtis may have felt he had become for his public, now that he was on the verge of the stardom and mass fame he had once chased so passionately in his anonymous youth and now felt was an unbearable anchor of exploitation, and tragically believing was a completely insurmountable issue alongside his worsening physical condition. (Re-listen to the song "Novelty")

  • @fabianklw
    @fabianklw 10 месяцев назад +5

    Always loved the deepdives, whether they were on designers or artists. Please bring them back Karsten

  • @rdegans7809
    @rdegans7809 11 месяцев назад +7

    Top tier content Karsten, thank you

  • @MrDannMann
    @MrDannMann 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is an excellent channel, this man deserves more views/subs, bravo sir!

  • @jordanwise2265
    @jordanwise2265 10 месяцев назад +1

    Such a good video!

  • @dubbedwarrior957
    @dubbedwarrior957 10 месяцев назад +2

    Well researched video. Thumbs up.

  • @Devananta-Rafiq
    @Devananta-Rafiq 10 месяцев назад +2

    Never knew before there is something called existentialist aesthetics

  • @WeShouldAllDoHeroin
    @WeShouldAllDoHeroin 10 месяцев назад +5

    Great video! I would just point out, for future clarity, that french philosopher Jean Paul Sartre's last name is pronounced Sah-rr-treh.

    • @brmbkl
      @brmbkl 10 месяцев назад

      and Kierkegaard, not Kierkengaard...

  • @KuwaharaBMXRider
    @KuwaharaBMXRider 4 месяца назад

    I popped along to see Ian last year (his memorial stone at Macclesfield cem) also passed his house at Barton street.

  • @TheChannelofaDisappointedMan
    @TheChannelofaDisappointedMan 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great presentation. My passion for Joy Division powers my BookTube channel, though I focus on literature. Iggy Pop's The Idiot pushes the same buttons as Joy Division, as do parts of New Values.

  • @korallsthlm
    @korallsthlm 10 месяцев назад

    painting at 1:33? And the one after that?

  • @heyychico
    @heyychico 10 месяцев назад

    holy goated content

  • @AnthonyPicardi
    @AnthonyPicardi 10 месяцев назад +8

    my brother in christ HOW does nietzsche always get misinterpreted as a nihilist let alone THE FATHER of it!!!!!!!

  • @moxvoid5926
    @moxvoid5926 10 месяцев назад +3

    I don't know if it's the american way of saying it or not, but that "Sartre" pronunciation is way off.
    Anyways, sick and very interesting video, good job!

  • @ktiitfa2491
    @ktiitfa2491 4 месяца назад

    Oh gawd this voice

  • @gunru7512
    @gunru7512 29 дней назад

    ♾️🖤JD🖤♾️

  • @Anton-du-Fleur
    @Anton-du-Fleur 7 месяцев назад

    Don't read too much into it. Dude, you are filling in blanks that weren't there in the first place.