Sheffield city centre Castlegate build back better Market Tavern and the Old Town Hall tour
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- A quick update on the demolition of the Market Tavern. Also a tour around the Old Town Hall, which I believe they will also demolish if we aren't careful.
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Great video Tim. As I've said before, Sheffield council are hell bent on erasing the city's history. Absolutely tragic. When you look at York and the influx of visitors they get, Sheffield would have looked the same as York if the council hadn't erased all the old buildings. I used to love getting some shopping from the markets and going in the Market Tavern for a pint or 2. Very sadly missed and not just by me. Wonderful old building, the likes of will never be seen again. Cheers Tim
Hi Mike I do a tour from the bottom of the Moor to show the festivities and then walk down High St into the Haymarket. So sad. Will upload 10am tomorrow. All the best Tim
@@timawells Hi Tim. Seasons greetings fella. Yes i will look forward to seeing that. I have just subscribed to your wonderful channel. (I though i already had.) All the best to you and your lot
Thanks for the kind remarks. Hopefully in the future I will be reporting on a resurgent Sheffield. @@AMikeOnLine
They don't want to stop the destruction...
Part of the rewriting of history.
How long before they knock down the old Burton's building and the old Adelphi cinema(?) on vicarage road, off Attercliffe.
Thought old town hall was a grade 1 listed building?
Grade 2 but do was the Edwardian wing of Jessops.
Absolutely shameful. So much potential and allowed to rot. Visit Leeds city centre and learn something. Keep voting Labour folks and reap what you sew.
Labour controls Leeds. But they are bringing the new world order without people being aware.
Thank you Tim, I enjoy your Sheffield vids, commentary, history etc, good job.
Thanks Terry. Doing something different Saturday.
The Marples were bombed in the war, as I'm sure you know. As the Marples were a short distance away, was that bombed too?.hence the red brick?. I believe they knocked the markets down, so it, with the new market, would draw people to the Moor, to make more money. I wonder how many criminals were sentenced to be executed in the town hall?.
It would have been better to draw people to either end of the city centre. Since lockdown they have made it impossible for vehicles to get into the Castle Market area. The plan is to turn into more flats, offering the Castle park and no more.
My guess is the unmatched brick comes from when the building was changed into a courthouse, possibly reducing larger more grand windows of a town hall, economics dictated cheaper material.
There are big chunks that have been replaced with red brick, me thinks they have taken away to use for other things.
I remember standing outside the co-op with my mother watching all the judges come in big cars and watching them all walking in wearing their red robes, that would be in the late 60's.
I remember my father telling me how he walked to work the day after the Blitz. He said he was lost and didnt know where he was. I got a similar feeling recently having not been to Sheffield for some time. I thought I might get my bearings when I got " T oyl in't road" . Cun't find it so I went back t' Pond street bus station an ad a pint in't queens ead
I have been coming in every week since July 2019, so I have gradually seen the change.
Let’s not forget this is a LABOUR majority council.
People hate what they are doing to Sheffield but carry on voting Labour, Green and Liberal.
That's really sad! Keep up the good work! :)
I can't see a way back for us Sheffielders booted out of our own city.
Great video , informative and true 👏👏👏
Whats the point just keeping facias? The Isaac's Building on Pinstone street facia that is left is dwarfed by the high rise at the rear. Do the Friends of the Old Town Hall know anything. 🤔. It should have been turned into something of quality straight after the Court closed but now its too late because the whole area has gone down the pan. The old tram ride footage from I902 shows the grandeur we have lost. 😢.
Its better than nothing. The Mock Tudor frontage on Haymarket have been stripped away and left.
I prefer to at least keep the fascia because look how elegant and classy and dull.od character the old buildings were
Now they are bland and poorly designed and put together
It's a shame to demolish 100 years plus buildings
@@timawells It's the whole building that should be kept not just the frontage then building High rise behind it.
Other towns still have their historic buildings: the blitz is often blamed but, as you pointed out, more damage has been done since the war bombing.
@@retrorambles517we want the whole building not just a facia. Go to other towns and see they still have their glorious past and old buildings.
Arundel gate and Furnival gate have a lot to answer for. @@misscoutts6193
Hi Tim
Only the council can condemn and knockdown buildings before people can object, almost criminal.
At least you have captured the features 👍
I wish I had been out in the 1980s. So much of Sheffield has been destroyed from before I was born.
@@timawellsnot just Sheffield but Sheffield has been hit badly, love your quote “more has been destroyed than the Luftwaffe” and they did a lot of damage
I worked in 90s London, they started on London first, But now Kate Josephs in town the epi centre has moved.@@everydaysabonus
@@timawellsand I’m sure some people think she’s doing a great job 🧐
I am uploading a video I did with Mark Banaman about Kate Josephs tomorrow.@@everydaysabonus
Have a walk up the river from Malin Bridge and see what the Sheffield City Council has allowed on the River Loxley.A concrete eyesore which The Star described as a positive development.There is a toxic tip through which there was not supposed to be any disturbance but it now has a road through it.The Environment Agency issued an abstraction licence which is supposed to ensure abstraction doesn't leave the Weir dry but for years the EA hasn't enforced a licence so have a look in summer.The plant produces power which is a fairly derisory amount compared to the environmental cost,and the plant operator took an excavator to the river bed for which he received no penalty The Weir pool is full of building rubble which the EA tries to justify leaving despite The Star and the plans saying would be a metre deep.The weirs on the Loxley are described as of international importance in a report.Sheffield has been destroying it's heritage for years in the view of many people.Objections to the Wisewood Hydro Scheme were not embraced by Sheffield planners.
Hi Andrew have you any links to articles and pictures on this so I can investigate more. Cheers Tim
Yes watch this space as I have three years of trying to deal with the consequences of what took place.Link is 17/02222/FUL.Sheffield planning application but a site meet would be to your advantage.
I could meet you up there to film it Andrew and for you to add some words to it. @@andrewgamble5332
@@timawells Yes any time/ day in the car park of the Loxley home for the elderly on Loxley Road.Whenever suits.Andrew
I will arrange something in the New Year with you Andrew. My email is in my about if you want to drop me an email. Best Tim@@andrewgamble5332
Anything to do with the bombings from the blitz any damage in the area the then council would have used what material resources were at hand in the area in the rush to build infostructure back up ?
Not sure it was hit Tim. Wondering if they stole it for other things, removing bricks unseen to the public.
If that wall was originally an interior wall it may have been red brick for economy.
When I went around the back there was red brick everywhere as though they stole the brick and used elsewhere.
Hen and Chickens is still a pub today.
It looked like a hostel to me, I didn't know it was still a public house.
you should team up with paul whitewick
Who is Paul Whitewick.
@@timawells a local history you tuber in your area
Thanks. @@andrewsmart2949
Is Paul from Sheffield as I thought he was elsewhere in the UK?@@andrewsmart2949
@@timawells you will have to search paul and rebecca whitewick
Tim ..do you know the guy who owns dronfield antiques?
No I don't. I have an aunt and uncle out there, but its not a place I frequent that often.
he is heavily involved in attempting to stop demolition of buildings,dronfield antiques is on abbeydale road close to the sheffield superstore and abbeydale picture palace@@timawells
I note that today (19/01/24) that the Market Tavern 'spontaneously' fell down by itself (as opposed to spontaneously burnt down?) which has angered the campaigners especially when they were promised by councillors that demolition would stop. Surprise surprise!
I will video the rubble on Saturday Paul. They planned to knock it down from day one and have managed there way to this.
Could have easily used the original brick work but that would been better to sell on hence the cheap red bricks 🧱
Asset stripping away from the public frontage?
@@timawells everything has value to them, just not for us. Keep the videos coming. Do more of the bottom of moor. Before rest of those go.
@@axiomcurbcommunity what at the bottom of the Moor. 50% of the it was wiped out in the war, but they removed the other 50% and completely rebuilt. Found some very interesting lower levels on Carver St.