Neumann KH 310a Vs Adam Audio A8H | Best Studio Monitor ?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In today's video, we pit two titans of the audio world against each other: the Neumann KH 310a and the Adam Audio A8H. I'll delve into the depths of these best studio monitors in 2023, starting with Neumann monitors, renowned for their excellence in mixing and mastering. I'll dissect the KH 310a and its sibling, the Neumann KH 310, to understand why these Neumann studio monitors are so revered.
Next, I'll switch gears to Adam Audio, specifically the A8H. In our detailed Adam A8H review, I'll unveil the unique qualities that make Adam Audio monitors a top pick. I'll navigate the entire Adam Audio A series, illuminating the Adam A8H's standout performance.
Finally, I'll present a side-by-side comparison of the KH310, KH 310a, and Adam Audio A8H. From studio speakers to studio monitors, join us on this journey to find your perfect audio companion in the world of Neumann vs Adams Audio.
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Thanks, that was really helpfull, I have the KH310s and I love em, my friend has the A8H's they sound great too, but I have not heard both monitors in my studio,and the room plays a big part so its nice to hear your opnion on the differences
Great comparison... I recommend you try the Neumann 750 DSP with your Neumann KH310. It makes the low end even more detailed and helps the KH310 work even better in the mids.
I definitely want to try it out and will be looking into it. Thanks for watching !💪🏽
Hey bro. Just bought some kh310. Do you recommend a sub with them? How will it add to the sound apart from a more pronounced low end?
@@ARCASIAUK I felt that it also helped the midrange to be a bit clearer. It might also depend on your room, but I don't think that the sub is a bad decision. Since the Sub has DSP it allows you to use the "Neumann-Room-Correction (MA1)", which is also a very nice feature. If your on a tight Budget however, the 310s will be totally fine speakers on their own.
One thing to note is, you placed the adams further from the wall. That does matter quite a bit in bass. See adams own video on setting up A-series monitors. Even a few CM matters a lot.
if you have a bass trrap behide the monitors its fine flush against the wall
You have to get the sub and Neumann room correction mic. I was highly underwhelmed until I added those too, along with a grace design monitor controller. These Now sound leagues better, almost atc like midrange. It makes all the difference.
Grace design monicon…nice. Thinking about to get the Dangerous Music monicon.
Hi! You have some strong phase cancellation problem in your lows (from 60-90hz), to as much as -9dB, on both speakers. That is because of the position of the speakers in the room (especially the distance from the front wall). The phase cancellation is not correctable by eq/sonarworks even though on the graph it appears that the problem was solved (they have info on this on their own site). So look into it and try to solve it by placing the speakers closer to the wall, then recalibrate them and do the test again. They will sound different. Those bass frequencies are there, they just get cancelled due to the room.
Can you also solve this with absorbers or diffusors instead? If not, can you calculate the correct distance to the wall or is it just a trial and error process until it's right?
@@laaaliiiluuu The frequencies that are affected are influenced by the distance from the front wall. The bigger the distance, the lower the frequency (longer wavelength). Lower frequencies are extremely hard to absorb, you need thickness and mass. So if you move the speakers closer to the walls the problem moves in the higher frequencies which are much, much easier to be treated with absorbers. By moving the speakers closer to the wall you also get a little bass bump, but that will show up on the graph and IS treatable by EQ.
310’s are on a different planet than any Adam.
hi whats yoiur thoughts on the Adam S2V OR THE A8H? I have the ADAM T7v looking to upgrade.
Great video man! Thanks for sharing... I had a quick question about the Adam's. I've heard the Neumann's and I love their width and soundfield. How do the Adam's stack up with soundfield? Do they get as much width detail when mixing? Thanks again man!
Great video. Thanks for your review. I have the kh310 and really like them. I see they get some negative criticism but a lot of praise also. Ive found them to be really accurate and mixes translate well.
I agree Same here Man definitely helped me with my mixes! Thanks for watching!
Most people who dislike them, didn‘t understand the difference between mixing and producing. The Neumans are one of the best speakers when it comes to mixing. A mix on them sounds good when the mix is good. That is what a lot of people do not understand and talk bad about the Neumanns. On a lot of other speakers they start producing a track and it sounds punchy and fat from the beginning, but later they have to hear the mix on other speakers for reference and start to struggle. It is because the Neumanns have a very flat response. You can see it at data of the fequency curve. That is the point with the Neumann and what makes a great speaker to mix on. It takes about a month or two if you start your first mix on the 310 to understand what is going on. But after you got it, you get great mixes fast if you know how to fix the problems that the mix has. With my old Adams, it was much more difficult to decide what the mix needs to finish it, compression here or eqing the highs and so on. Since the 310 I also do not overload my mix with effect plugins, because I hear what is right or wrong and also the stereofield is incredible good.
Do you recommend Neumann to me I’m new to mixing I’m currently using pre sonis Eris 5 I’m saving to buy Yamaha hs8 later this year hopefully before the year will end I’ll like to start using these bad boys either Adam or neuman so which is better bro
@@briannasmith8262 I would not buy Yamaha HS8. If you are in the price range of the Yamahas, I would rather buy Adam or Focal. If you ready to spent more money on speakers, go to stores and hear what is best for you. I recommend Neumann, the smaller ones with a sub are great.
@@axoplanet6081 When you say smaller ones do you mean the KH120 iis or the KH80s? I wonder how much improvement you're getting from the 120s over the 80s if the low end is coming from the sub anyway.
if i bought a sub (like the AA T10S 10"), then would you recommend going with the A8H?
Great video, I'm looking at both of these as options. Do you know which ones have lower latency for tracking or say, live mixing with DJ gear?
Your studio looks 🔥🔥
straight to the point in your review, some parts a little repetitive.
I have the neumans with the sub which i highly recommend. I bought the neuman room mic to analyze the room. It made a huge difference.
The 310’s can’t use the room analyzing thingy can they?
@@jeffpettit1 They can but only via the KH750.
I dig ur videos but honestly for me if I could afford both (@$8000) I would be going with PMC, ATC, Barefoot, or ADAM-S (line) monitors. Definitely an upgrade than this tier of monitor.
ATC is another price range. And you don’t get happy with ATC without a sub for each speaker. A pair of SCM25s plus 2 subs is around 20.000, not 8.000 USD. Barefoot is way more bass heavy and far from a flat mix response. Barefoot are great for producing, but for mixing the KH310 or the KH420 is way better because of the flat response. Adam tweeters are not for everyone and that includes the S lines too, because of the harsh hi frequencies. PMC maybe, but the good ones are in the range of ATC.
Have you heard of HEDD audio? They’re a relatively new company but they’re the most underrated middle tier priced monitors on the market. $2k-$6k range.
I heard the Hedd 07 mkII‘s. For me they sounded too harsh and I came from Adam A7X. And I read bad comments about people who used them in case of quality.
@@axoplanet6081 really? Everyone’s ears are different. I listened to them vs a few speakers and I found them more pleasant than harsh. I was pretty impressed actually.
I chose the Adams!
Adam’s are a great option. Thanks for watching! 💪🏽
Neumann's and NS10s
Got the Adam A8h when they were first released. However they would randomly shut off then power back up. I sent Adam audio an email about this issue. Seems that Adam already knew about the issue but didn’t have a solution or workaround. Needless to say I sent them back and purchased the Genelec 8361a monitors instead. The Genelecs are endgame monitors!!
Thanks for sharing. This definitely changes everything. I'll focus more on Barefoot instead.
@@bappandi007
Barefoots are a much better choice.
Bro, place them to the front-wall. I put my Neumann 310 like 10 cm from
my wall
i like the adam im runing ADAM A7X'S WITH THE A77X'S love it
Nice set up! Thanks for watching !
Very cool! I'm also running A7Xs and the A77Xs, however, you still need a subwoofer. I added in a Genelec 7360A and man... it completely makes the whole setup! The A77Xs are great, but they are still not capable of producing the low frequencies like a subwoofer can. When I hit the subwoofer's on and off the bypass switch, you can feel and hear the difference immediately.
@@andynonimuss6298 Your Genelec product placement sucks just like the subwoofers from Genelec. And to use the A7X’s together with the A77X’s makes no sense. Beside of that, there are way better speakers out there in the price range of the A77X, for example the 2 models from this video. The 310 + two of the 750s subs kills your Adam system like Chuck Norris an army of computer nerds.
What sub would you recommend with the Adam audio
I prefer to focus on the low end with bass heavy music like techno and house. However maybe the adams + sub might be an even better solution?
310 with Sub or without is the better choice. The big difference is… on the Adams everything sounds good from the beginning and on the Neumann not. Means you hear what you have to change for a great mix on the Neumann. That is awesome. Adam are good for producing but not for mixing. I mix while I am producing and the 310s are brilliant for this.
Have you tried the Dynaudio LYD48s and if so, how do they compare ?
I tested the Dynaudios against the Neumann. Dyns sounded also very clean but the Neumanns was more balanced I think. I bought the KH310, the Dyns sounded a little thiner to me. But I don‘t know if it was the 3way Lyd or the 3way Core Dynaudio speakers right now.
The problem with the Dyn Audios imo is the midrange and even low end is severely lacking for a 3 way design. There’s also a bump at 2.2-2.8k that makes every kick drum sound clicky. I wanted to like them but for that price I’d pass.
Love this video
Thanks for watching gang
@@30killabeatz this is one of my clear last investments for myself after some monitoring I’m shooting for a video on summing mixers do you use one
What about the overall sound quality and clarity? Which one sounds more hifi??
They both sound hifi. Just a preference in style they both sounds different
adams open ported and neumanns closed ported…..i would choose closed over open as they are much tighter with bass and transient hits from kicks, snares etc…….and ive never liked adams ribbons…they give me ear fatigue after 30 mins……hedds are better for non fatiguing ribbons. although i am looking at genelec the ones now 😬🤣
just get a sub if you need the lows brother but you are going crazy with the lows in your songs it is maby to extreme
What computer monitor is that?
Bro Who do you think is better in terms of mixing?
310’s 100%
A friend sold me Event 20/30's are they any good? vs these options?
his not your friend
Personally, I think that the ADAM Audio A8H offer much better treble, with more detail and definition.
Greetings!
Personalmente creo que los ADAM Audio A8H ofrecen unos mucho mejores agudos, con más detalle y definición.
Saludos!
Not in real life. The Adam S series maybe, but A8H against KH310… Neumann all day. Much more detailed bass, more flat. Look at frequency charts. The 310 is one of the best.
5:40 What did you mean with: "Sound in your face" ?
The position of the sound and where it is located.
used Adam Speakers for years and all i can say is - i don't like thev Ribbon Tweaters at all , try out the neumanns with the Sub Kh750 + MA System from Neumann - trust me you will never use Sonarworks again
I bet! I should be getting the sub soon! Can’t wait 😍 Thanks for watching !
1st great video 🎉
Thanks for watching ! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
even for someone making drum&bass the adam audio a8h would provide enough bass so he talking bs many d&b artist use adam a7x which doesn't go down as low
I mean it is usable, but unfortunately, I’ve had the luxury of trying out other speakers and compared to what I prefer. I just prefer other speakers that do have more base. But use whatever you prefer!
Neuman have no port so more accurate.
Most definitely!! Thanks for watching 💪🏽
That makes no difference as long as the overall concept is correct. I, like many others, find that the KH150 sound more precise in almost all areas. I found the 150s to be superior to the 310s, especially in the low-midrange and voice reproduction. But as always its always just a few % and no day-night
@@vtkz Perhaps due to the built in linear phase response of the KH150s I would say. I have them and am very impressed. Looking forward to the release of the KH310 mkii rumoured to be coming soon.
@@vtkz No. 310 is a 3way and is way more precise against the 150.
i dont like ADAM, ADAM sounds like ADAM, i always hear out when someone mix with them.
Sorry but I doubt this. The A series is not like the S series for example. S is great. And I doubt that you can hear if anybody made a mix on them. Everybody has another room, another ears and other technics in mixing.
@@axoplanet6081a good room is a good room
Wheres the bs police…
@@axoplanet6081 The division of frequencies is extremely artificial and gives a false stage that you only hear on Adam. It has a very unique sound, which, at least for me, is exactly the opposite of what I want from studio speakers... I can only imagine how difficult it must be to get a mix on these speakers that sounds good even outside of ADAM. i would highly recommend try different speakers in a 1to1 comparsion.
Of course everyone has a different room, but I'm talking about my experience in acoustically treated rooms and not a living room. thats my experience with ADAM, feel free to think differently
Nope, I'd go with the 10" Genelec 1032C! Every studio needs a subwoofer. With a subwoofer, once you hit that bypass switch on and off, then you understand why you need a subwoofer.
Not really
@@axoplanet6081 You have no idea.
@@andynonimuss6298 You have no idea. Such a BS „every studio need a subwoofer“. In a small studio of, for example 3x4 meters, you don‘t need a subwoofer. If you have speakers with enough low end you don‘t need a sub. Try to tame the sub frequencies in such a room. Did you ever build different studios with acoustic treatment in your life or do you get your knowledge just from RUclips? You should know using just one subwoofer allways cuts your low frequencies to mono. That is sometimes way worst against using no subwoofer at all. So if you bring your half-knowledge to the internet to give people some advices, learn the basics about sub frequencies and the way they work in rooms and in the stereofield. If you have to use subwoofers in studios and want a acurate mix, you have to use 2 subs.
@@axoplanet6081 I have a full studio with thousands of dollars in acoustic treatment. Even high-end studio monitors can't reach down to 19 Hz. If you want a full frequency range for proper mixing, you must have a subwoofer. It doesn't sound like you even have a studio.
@@andynonimuss6298 That doesn‘t mean that you know what you talking about. A lot of kids have too much money nowadays and make bad productions with expensive equipment. Bad enough that you have to tell me about your expensive studio. I have also a studio with tousand of dollars of equipment and acoustic treatment. And now? You still talking bs and don‘t answered one of my questions. So again…you really think you need a sub in a small studio of 3x4 meters? And please tell me how to tame the sub frequencies there, so that all you get is not just a muddy mess of low frequencies. It is near impossible. And yes, your Adam A7X need a sub, better two, because this speakers have nearly no bass. But a KH310 or a Barefoot 01 for example, is also tight in the lows without a sub. Especially in small rooms.
Why tf u put adams against neumann… u need at least hedd to compare
Because the consumer the buyer some people out there would like to hear a comparison like myself for example it’s just fun to show case the similarity’s and the differences so people no what there buying I wouldn’t no what the differences between these two were if this guy didn’t post this comparison and now I no 👌
??? Why?