How To Build A Custom Brake Plumbing System for Classic or Race Cars
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2016
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This is a long one so grab a beverage and hunker in for a bit because we get a lot done on the Autoedit Ford Mustang... also known as "Large Marge" !
In this video we design, fabricate and install the entire brake plumbing system for the 1973 Mustang from scratch. This car was a clean slate so every line and fitting is new.
One of the cool features I share in this video is my introduction to NiCopp Alloy Brake line. It's made from Nickel, Copper and Iron Alloy and comes in all popular sizes. The Mustang got 3/16 in. Diameter line and single flare -3 AN fittings except for the few 1/8" NPT fittings at the Master cylinders and wheel calipers. The benefit of using the NiCopp tubing is the rust resistance of stainless steel lines but the flexibility of mild steel.
Check out the video and stay tuned for the next chapter of the build up of Large Marge!
Thanks for watching,
Jason 
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That beer at the end of the day when you have actually accomplished something the way you have thought and planned it through, priceless.
You know it!
A tip that I would add. When making brake lines, I try to make the brake caliper line into the caliper lower than the bleed port in the caliper, and the routing far side of any given section should be lower than the master and any section of the line. ie start at caliper and try to ONLY go up to the master, no high points for air to get trapped in between the caliper and the master. Makes bleeding the brakes 100x easier.
Good suggestion.
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@Karter Stanley glad I could help :)
I have to admit that this was by far the best video that I seen involving a part of a build. The flat out best complete brake line installation with such ease a clean as heck. I love this video. Thanks.
the most beautiful flares happen when the fitting isn't on the line... and usually when i cant spare 1/4" to cut it back
Been there. Done that. I know your frustration. Not only that, I've soldered a seven wire connector only to discover I forgot to put the back shell and strain relief on first. Oh well, practice makes perfect, right?
great video. good information and production. just a note.
NPT stands for "National Pipe Tapered" as opposed NPS which are "straight" threads. it's common for many to think the "T" in NPT stands for "Thread" but important for the DIY'er to know the difference so the correct fittings are used.
Thanks again for making video
Really good info. Thank you!
Love this video, it kind of makes me feel better knowing that others are using cuprinol (copper/nickel) lines on their cars. I have installed this on my brake and clutch systems on my 65 MGB, and I just love how it goes together. Great idea on using Rivnuts to secure the line clips. I am going to utilize some of these as well. Thanks for posting and great looking car.
Love your demo. You helped me immensely with a perspective I hadn’t thought of.
Great! Thanks so much for watching!
Great Video as usual. Came at a very good time. I am currently plumbing the brake lines for my 67. I really like the nutsert idea.
huh, every bit as good of a production and content as a sponsored show you'd find on TV. subbing. thanks for the vid.
WELCOME and thanks so much for the nice comment!
Seriously phenomenal editing on this video. Subscribed and checking out your other stuff now. Large Marge's brake lines look nice!
Thank you for a great video. Love the terminal idea on the firewall and using NiCopp. Will use these on my project.
Thx for being such an inspiration with this build been following all along and just love how this beast is coming along. Makes me always want work and continue my build on my fox body mustang!
Love these videos. Your car is going to look sick when you finish it. Can't wait!
Great video. Thanks. I did want to mention that I've had terrible success with using pressure switches in-line. They seem to work fine at first, but after a while, you need to press harder and harder on the brakes to close the circuit. I even found a "low pressure" switch on line and installed it with the same end result after a short time. I became so paranoid about losing brake lights that I installed a small indicator on my dash that only lit when the signal was sent to the the actual brake lights. Ultimately, I installed a mechanical switch which solved everything, but I kept the in dash indicator.
Thank you for this. I had been dreading this part of my project 53 Bel Air, but I think I can go in with confidence now.
Awesome to hear! Good luck!
Enjoyed the video. Nice post processing and use of multiple camera angles as well; many folks don't know what all goes into that part of making these videos. I've got a Ford project of another nature going at the moment and can relate to the brake plumbing, suspension and other task required to get these old vehicles back on the road and in tip top shape. Mine's a '67 F100 Pickup. Keep up the good work, I've subscribed and will be keeping up with your work for sure. Take care, Clay
Howdy Clay, sorry I missed this comment when you left it but thanks so much for the nice words.
I hope your F100 project is going well...I really love that era of Ford trucks!
HELPED ME OUT TREMENDOUSLY ON MY 1980 F100 BUILD I WAS STUCK BUT THIS GAVE ME THE DIRECTION AND MODIVATION I NEEDED ! PLUS 1 SUBSCRIBER TODAY !
Great Videos, You're inspiring me to document my build. Nice sanitary work, I like the direction you've gone. Thanks for doing a nice thorough job on explaining as you go.
Awesome, thank you!
Awesome set up! I’m definitely taking notes! Cheers on the tecate! 👌
Awesome video Jason! I have always preferred using stainless steel, but will definitely try the NiCopp or nickel copper lines over steel lines. Enjoy your journey with Large Marge. She looks cool! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Great video. Such a refreshing change from all the other DIY vids. Thanks!
Thank you... thank you very much!!!!!
Amazing video! I cant wait to redo all my brake lines when converting to Manual Brakes. Make it look a ton nicer!
Great stuff, thanks. one of my first few projects will be brake lines so looking into that line. Thanks!
wow what a quality video, great video editing, this was so easy to see and understand. great work
Thanks very much... welcome!
The editing on this video was great. Keep up the good work man. I can't wait to see her finished.
+Brononomous Thanks dude!
Nice clean look with some custom touches. Good job !!
I absolutely love all of your videos! You keep me intrigued with everything you've done to this car and I learn a lot along the way! Thank you good Sir! Makes me want to go and wrench on my own mustang now haha
+ferniee16 That's great to hear, thanks for the share... now go tinker!
Quality of work is mind blowing. Well done!
Thank you very much! Have you seen the test drive video of this car?
Thank you so much sir, always enjoy watching your videos and learning how to put my mechanic skills to use
+Mackenzie Yarbough Glad to hear you are tinkering on stuff!
subscribed, you sir are a true car enthusiasts. Down to details. quality work.
another great vid, as I watch this I'm installing the 1 1/8" TCP front anti roll bar on the 69 fastback. I have their power rack and pinion conversion on the way. Their coilover conversion is on and Baer 6P brakes are waiting to go on. Your vids really lay out what I'm in for and help me as I go along doing this same build on my car. and as always.. Pinto is a badass. I look forward to future vids.
+GunfightersINC Thanks so much! I'll be interested to hear how you like your awesome Mustang with all of these mods!!!
once again I am blown away. you do such nice work Jason! Oh and the nut riviter is one of my favorite tools. - Ronnie
+Ron Reason Thanks so much!
Man the break line fab sounded, intimidating, you made it look almost doable for a nube amateur like me. Thanks.
Doing it for my first time tomorrow. I've seen every tip now. Still dread it
Try to enjoy it... it's a big job but it's important and can be fun.
Very informative, you just solved most of my brake line problems, thank you. Add more videos, if available.
Yeah, Man the Niclke Q stuff is AMAZING!
Awesome as always! Pups and Hotrods...so cool. Had to remake a wicked hard to make line loc line because I forgot to put the end on. Good catch. lol
+n20cpri LOL, yeah we all have been there glad to here from ya!
I’ve used those threaded inserts for 20+ years. I’m pretty sure Nutserts are the actual name. Great video.
Thanks!
This was an awesome video. I can now go forward with confidence on my project. Gonna try that line as well. Thanks.
You can do it!
Awesome! I have 1965 mustang with a new set of wilwood brakes in which I need to plumb new lines to the front and rear your video helps out a lot. Thanks!
+Victor Y That's what were here for right!
i enjoy these longer videos, great to see the progress,.. and always the best part of any proyect is when you sit back and look at the part you just finished and take a cold big zip of TECATE... i ussually mix the order in those steps jaja... until my wife comes out and says -i thought you where fixin the jeep,... and i say naa im too drunk now jaja... anyway keep up the good work and as always still waiting on the burnouts ...they seem so close now... SALUDos from MEXICO!!1
+martincillo111 That's great! I have plenty of those kind of days out in the garage too... so funny to hear the same! Have a great one!
mate you did a great job of explaining the process and was very helpful! cheers
Glad to hear, thanks!!!!
From Australia Thank you very much! Helps a lot.
Very nice video, I am doing a 70 Ford F100 with Crown Victoria front and rear end and CV power brake booster, By watching this I now can build my own distribution block. Now I don't need to purchase a brass distribution block, will do my own line routing like in the video all should work out for my application.
Really glad to hear about your project! Thanks for the feedback.
Impressive production value on these videos.
Great video with useful points made. Thanks!
Great video...thanks for posting it.
I am currently building a racing car and am faced with fabbing up a brake system. I was considering using braided steel/teflon lined hose in 100% of the system, rather than alternating between the braided hose and hard lines. It would have a lot of advantages...fewer joints....complete flexibility....and the braided hose is actually tougher and less likely to be damaged than hard lines...because it is immune to vibration damage that can fracture a hard line that is not properly designed and mounted. It is also less likely to be crimped or permanently crushed due to damage.
I got a lot of predictable advice "use hard lines as much as possible or you will have a soft pedal...." etc.
While pondering all this.....I was looking at tech photos of a modern DTM racing car....arguably the highest technology racing in the world today (less restricted by rules than F1)....and the brake system on this car was plumbed 100% with braided steel hose. I figured if they didn't have a mushy pedal....neither would I....and decided to forego the hard line thing altogether.
I agree with the poster below....it is laughable that Wilwood still sells brake system parts plumbed with NPT. Why they do that is beyond me.
Possibly. My fear with some of the super-fly race tech is that they only have to make it last a few hours at a time.
Hey just came across your video. Well done. I'm a retired U.S. Navy Jet Mech/Search and Rescue/Vertical Replenishment AirCrewman. On one Det I was rushing to complete a line and was under the gun to complete it. I had told the Boss no problem we'll make it. Then I did exactly what you were talking about with regards to the sleeve. I just made my launch time for a major replenishment with the carrier. I kicked myself in the a** over it and my det didn't let me forget it. When your mouth writes checks your a** best cash them.
Great share!
@@AutoEdits THX I did a few others in my career but ran about 99% on cashing the checks but still hated messing up. Others could say hey sh*t happens and walk away me?? It would drive me nuts not doing it right the first time.
Thank you! That was a great video. I’m working on my first real project vehicle… a 1952 Chevy 3100. Your video will be a great help.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks For the video men ! helping me so much in the other side of the ocean
great quality video, keep these coming! :)
just flawless, and a perfect choice.. tecate roja. Greets from Mexico
+Neto Reyes Absolutely... it was a worthy celebration... Thanks friend!
I'm glad this video is recommended to me. Now I'm a subscriber. Great video by the way.
Awesome, thank you!
Recently subscribed! I like your series Jason! I also have a Dodge Ram Crew..2500. And a 1991 YJ...cheers man!
Nice work and useful explanation.
coat hanger. Genius!!
brilliant video and Great quality.
Kind of surprised you dont have more views on this. 👍
I wish... but a cool comment like yours goes a long way for me. Thanks!
Thank you so much. I enjoyed your video. You made it look simple. On the farm I quickly found out that teflon tape and hydraulic fluid are a no-win combination. There are pastes out there, such as one from Loctite, that work well but the white stuff on a roll should not be used. Thank you for making such an informative video.
Good tip. Interesting to hear about the teflon tape not working for you. It's still holding fine on this application but I'll look to a paste on future stuff.
@@AutoEdits Redid all of the lines on an old tractor with a nice new hydraulic spool. I made that mistake of using teflon tape and then two days later I spent half a day fishing all of those little pieces of half dissolved tape out of the insides of the spool. Of course, after the fact all of the hydraulic stores that make up hoses said, "Don't you know that you aren't supposed to ever..".
Yep never use Teflon tape on brake lines with a proper double flare you do not need any sealant at all they will not leak
Not much into car tinkering but I was very entertained anyway and I like your style and humour 👍
Well that's just cool to hear, thanks!
Amazing job
I used the plumbes of an old porsche in my car . And parts (stainless) from a truck.
Cleaned everything, and they are good quality. Had to emend some things, machinist work, but not big deal.
Free stuff,I used to rebuild things from scratch.
this was very informative. Thanks!
I enjoyed this video. Good job!
Thanks!
Wow, great work. Looks really good.
+ken minor Thanks!
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing this
My pleasure!
very nice set up. I have been playing with the idea of upgrading some of my brake system on my 85 k20 suburban. I would keep most of the hard lines but use flex lines off the master and the calipers
Look up Kool Tools and their flare lapping tools, perfect seal every time.
Perfectly executed 👏
Thanks!
Very neat fabrication.
Pissing it laughing...first the dog interrupting.
And then flaring and forgetting the fitting. Did it twice on same damn flare. Best friend still teases me.
Nice!
Excellent instruction Jason good job
Thanks 👍
We just used the nickel copper to redo all the brake lines on a customers 34 Ford. That stuff is great!
That's very cool to hear! Thanks for checking back!!!!
I have a similar flare tool. I was going to use SS line but switched to NiCopp. I had ABSOLUTELY no luck double flaring it. Perhaps it's easier with a single flare and AN fittings. SS line is hard stuff.
I love to see the old time wire coathanger being used! So much more impressive than just hanging clothes on it. Where do you get these suckers any more? Dry Cleaning stores! LOL I've got to run brake lines on my 56 Chevy Belair. Good thing I found this perfect brake line video! Thanks
Man your install looks amazing! I want to make mine look the same on my 53 studebaker truck I’m building for Mark Tremonti the lead guitarist for creed!🤘🏻
Greetings from Germany. Nice work. Looks pretty awesome
Looks great..ty for showing this..helps alot..
Thanks for watching, glad it helped!
Very informative,thanks for posting...
I appreciate the view and taking a minute to say hey!
Love your narration and personality
Thanks!
Nice work!
Looks sooo goooooood👍🏼
I usually skip to these tutorials because it takes a long time to get to the point, but you sir kept me interested from start to finish. you diffidently got me pumped to keep working on my car. btw where did you get those flex lines?
NiCu Is Great Working With!!....Plus I Live in the North East...Lots of Salt!!....Many Brake Lines!!
Yes , I too have screwed up . Just finished plumbing my 68 Cougar project . Forgot fitting , fitting backwards , bent line with fitting on wrong side of bend , etc........ but it looks great when done .
Nice simple brake line install 🙂
Thanks 👍
thanks for the video, very helpful
Awesome vid, great work. thanks
Thank you too!
bends are realy nicely done
Tell me more about the your brake master cylinder. Part #'s, etc.
Love your work. Very informative.
Great video. Thanks. My only observation is since I am new to all this it would have been good to see close up shots of the rivnut sequence. I can always look elsewhere for that, however. Thanks again.
Awesome vid!
great tutorial !
thanks!
nice work man
I would also add, coming from being a diesel tech on tractor trailers, that we were taught in brake class to use liquid tephlon vs tape bc it’s possible if a small piece in in the air stream, or in your case fluid stream, break off in the system, it could cause brake system failure. OCD is beating me up over that run on sentence.
Great video
Nice work.
Great video!
Thanks!
Good video! Super helpful!
Glad you think so!
Great video. I'll definitely be playing this over and over out in the garage as I plumb my system.
(Great video quality too, some guys look like they're filming in a dark closet through a pair of pantyhose.)
HA! Thanks... If you keep watching this series... this car is now on the road and a driver and the brake system has been working flawlessly!
@@AutoEdits Do you have anymore detail on the hard line to flex line connection in the back? That's where I'm at now.
@@mdplemons I used one of these but as I searched I could only find this double order and it's expensive www.summitracing.com/parts/hdt-lk-005 It's basically a -3 bulkhead
My problem is that I had to cut out the trunk floor for a coilover suspension that I installed. Now I have to be creative about where to mount the flex/hard junction.
@autoedit...sure wish you would give more detail in the narrative about the parts and tools you used. I had never heard of Rivet Nuts until I watched this video...what tool are you using and where did you get it from? What about the anchors you used to attach the hardline to the firewall (I think you said you got them from Lokar)? I am in the middle of making the lines for the brake system on my 65 Fastback and you have me rethinking my approach. I have a conventional Master Cylinder and adjustable Proportioning valve. Wondering if I can use AN fittings like you did instead of the conventional break fittings.