Because of these accidents in 1966, my father would book my mother and sister on one flight and me and him on another flight, just to make sure that at least two of us in our family would survive if one of the planes crashed. I confirmed this with him shortly before he passed away and he said it was not a "story", but we actually flew this way. I was too young to remember. Flying was more dangerous back then. By the 1990s, we would fly together.
Good video. Are you planning on doing a video on the crash of JAL 123? It is the world's worst single aircraft accident to date and there is a tragic aftermath, too.
Thank you. It's possible I'll make a video on JAL123. A couple of years ago I was driving in the Gunma Prefecture in the Ueno area and accidentally found found the crash site.
It's crazy to think that on the afternoon of march 4th both flight 402 and flight 911 were both just proceeding as normal towards Tokyo. But 24 hours later on the next afternoon both planes will be smoldering in pieces.....
@@JapaneseHistory I really hope you get more viewers and subs. Fantastic content so far. It's also the algorithm I was shocked to find out you released like 3 new videos and I didn't get any notifications.
Thanks, Mew. That means a lot. Yeah, my upload schedule has been pretty random, so I don't think I'm doing myself any favors with the algorithm. The first 10 videos I made took about 1 month each and the Yamanote line took 14 weeks. But I'm finding these short 5 minute formats more manageable. I'm aiming for one video every 2 weeks on a Saturday.
Good video I would say, but also these coming years that I saw what happened with the Boeing 737 MAX 8 in Indonesia and Ethiopia is going to happen the same way as it happened in Indonesia and Ethiopia has happened a Boeing 737 MAX 8 will do a nose dive somewhere in Japan that the plane will hit a hill and Japan grounds the Boeing 737 MAX for the third time. Then Mitsubishi develops an airplane beside of their SpaceJet project the DreamJet project to come up with a Mitsubishi plane with the M-300 or M-323 or something as it will be Japan’s first passenger plane to release. For the third Boeing 737 MAX to crash in Japan the majority of the passengers that died will be Japanese and the family members of the victims that died on the third Boeing 737 MAX flight will warn Boeing that it is going out of business. Then after what will be called Boeing’s worse nightmare is that the first airline outside of Japan that buys all the fleet from Mitsubishi will be Qantas, that they will reject all orders of Boeing jets and they all order Mitsubishi and Airbus planes. Then suddenly Boeing is becoming the new Fokker, and Boeing is out of business for good thanks to Mitsubishi becoming more successful than Boeing. That is what I could see because the worse tragedy in Japanese aviation history is coming soon with a third Boeing 737 MAX crash and the most successful history in Japanese aviation will be the rise of Mitsubishi when all airlines from all over the world except for South Korea begins to buy passenger airplanes from Mitsubishi, what is going to be called Boeing’s Worse Nightmare. That is how I see it the worse tragedy in Japanese aviation history is about to come and it will be a Boeing 737 MAX to crash in Japan so Boeing will follow to the fate of Fokker.
The only reason for the three crashes yet solved was the lack of Japanese crash investigation techniques back then. Now 60 years later they dont care to know simply because flying is so incredibly safe now (mostly) and they arent going to learn anything new investigating older aircraft. Still it'd be nice to know.
@@JapaneseHistory I consider the 707 a modern airframe and anything flying today would be just as likely to breakup in flight. The 50s when 707 was designed aircraft engineers knew 90% plus what modern engineers do. Remember these engineers are extremely smart. IMHO something other than the aircraft it's self is responsible for a break up and no it's not fuji sans fault.
@@larchman4327 The breakup of the 707 is hardly suspicious. In the investigation, it was found that the pin holding the tailfin had fatigue cracks, and the abnormal winds that hit the aircraft as it approached the mountain. Indeed, this is something that could happen to modern aircraft - case in point, the crash of American Airlines Flight 587 in November 2001.
I agree, the 707 was built with all kinds of wind conditions in mind and not break up just like that... strong winds can push it around but the 707 was built to withstand that. BOAC had excellent maintenance, they would not let their airliners fly with any metal faults....they learned from the comet accidents. The movie producers were meant to be on that flight, could some kind of sabotage perhaps an explosive device have been the cause?
@@mariovuksanovic5077That’s definitely very true however: Mountain Wave Rotor Turbulence, also known as “Standing Wave” turbulence was poorly understood at the time. The wind gusts and extreme freakish turbulence that are associated with rotor turbulence are ABSOLUTELY LETHAL! Even today’s aircraft, that are much stronger, can still be damaged by Extreme Rotor Turbulence. When the winds are in a certain direction and severe mountain wave turbulence are forecast, Pilot’s will avoid flying in the Lee of the mountains to avoid this! The extreme wind gust that took the tail off G-APFE in 1966 was over 100 kts in speed about 130 mph and produced a clubbing sideways force of over 7.5 G! This enormous force far exceeded the aircraft’s design limits, and so destroyed the aircraft and likely killed everyone on board instantly. And, yes it could possibly happen again, unlikely but not impossible.
@@smwca123What are the chances of that happening? A B.O.A.C Boeing 707-436 taxies past the; still smouldering wreckage of the CP-Air Douglas DC-8-43 that crashed just a few hours before. Little did all those on board, who must have all seen this ghastly sight, realise, that a similar tragedy awaited them in less than 30 minutes! Also ironic. The Douglas DC-8-43 series had the same engines as the B.O.A.C Boeing 707-436 G-APFE had. Both fitted with the Rolls-Royce Conway 508 Low Bypass Turbofans. And both these terrible accidents happened within 24 hours of each other!
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Because of these accidents in 1966, my father would book my mother and sister on one flight and me and him on another flight, just to make sure that at least two of us in our family would survive if one of the planes crashed. I confirmed this with him shortly before he passed away and he said it was not a "story", but we actually flew this way. I was too young to remember. Flying was more dangerous back then. By the 1990s, we would fly together.
What a terrifying year in aviation! I'm so grateful to live in a much safer time. Thanks for another excellent video :)
I hear ya Jonathan Vogt. Especially the back to back crash in 24 hours. Glad we've learnt from these kind of tragedies.
Not really the Boeing 737 MAX will create one of Japan’s greatest tragedies in history and yet the Boeing nightmare is coming soon!
A 707 taxis past the wreckage of a DC-8 that crashed only hours before, only to crash itself less than 20mins later. Unreal 😮
Yeah shocking. I don't think any planes have crashed back to back like that since.
That 707 was BOAC flight 911
@@JapaneseHistory Two 727s crashed in the USA on the same day, 1st December, 1974.
@@Bobman84 Yes. Also in the same year, two C-141 Starlifters crashed in the same day, one in Greenland & one in the UK.
Indeed
Good video. Are you planning on doing a video on the crash of JAL 123? It is the world's worst single aircraft accident to date and there is a tragic aftermath, too.
Thank you. It's possible I'll make a video on JAL123. A couple of years ago I was driving in the Gunma Prefecture in the Ueno area and accidentally found found the crash site.
It's crazy to think that on the afternoon of march 4th both flight 402 and flight 911 were both just proceeding as normal towards Tokyo.
But 24 hours later on the next afternoon both planes will be smoldering in pieces.....
Yeah I'm glad the lessons have been learnt from these tragedies.
Indeed
Great video keep it up!
Thanks EMD. Another one coming this weekend hopefully. 👍
@@JapaneseHistory LETS GOOOO
JAL123 accident was one of the worst aviation accident in the history (37 years ago yesterday, August 12)
Yes it was a tragedy.
I don't know what's worse, those crashes or the narrator's voice.
Other people love it. Have you subscribed?
@@JapaneseHistory 🙄
Nice good video.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
@@JapaneseHistory I really hope you get more viewers and subs. Fantastic content so far. It's also the algorithm I was shocked to find out you released like 3 new videos and I didn't get any notifications.
Thanks, Mew. That means a lot. Yeah, my upload schedule has been pretty random, so I don't think I'm doing myself any favors with the algorithm. The first 10 videos I made took about 1 month each and the Yamanote line took 14 weeks. But I'm finding these short 5 minute formats more manageable. I'm aiming for one video every 2 weeks on a Saturday.
Good video I would say, but also these coming years that I saw what happened with the Boeing 737 MAX 8 in Indonesia and Ethiopia is going to happen the same way as it happened in Indonesia and Ethiopia has happened a Boeing 737 MAX 8 will do a nose dive somewhere in Japan that the plane will hit a hill and Japan grounds the Boeing 737 MAX for the third time.
Then Mitsubishi develops an airplane beside of their SpaceJet project the DreamJet project to come up with a Mitsubishi plane with the M-300 or M-323 or something as it will be Japan’s first passenger plane to release.
For the third Boeing 737 MAX to crash in Japan the majority of the passengers that died will be Japanese and the family members of the victims that died on the third Boeing 737 MAX flight will warn Boeing that it is going out of business.
Then after what will be called Boeing’s worse nightmare is that the first airline outside of Japan that buys all the fleet from Mitsubishi will be Qantas, that they will reject all orders of Boeing jets and they all order Mitsubishi and Airbus planes.
Then suddenly Boeing is becoming the new Fokker, and Boeing is out of business for good thanks to Mitsubishi becoming more successful than Boeing.
That is what I could see because the worse tragedy in Japanese aviation history is coming soon with a third Boeing 737 MAX crash and the most successful history in Japanese aviation will be the rise of Mitsubishi when all airlines from all over the world except for South Korea begins to buy passenger airplanes from Mitsubishi, what is going to be called Boeing’s Worse Nightmare.
That is how I see it the worse tragedy in Japanese aviation history is about to come and it will be a Boeing 737 MAX to crash in Japan so Boeing will follow to the fate of Fokker.
Really terrifying
Yes they were all horrible, especially flight 402 and 911 being so close only a day a part.
@@JapaneseHistory yea
@@JapaneseHistory My grandfather's former boss was killed on CP402.
The only reason for the three crashes yet solved was the lack of Japanese crash investigation techniques back then. Now 60 years later they dont care to know simply because flying is so incredibly safe now (mostly) and they arent going to learn anything new investigating older aircraft. Still it'd be nice to know.
Aviation has it's accidents
Trying to fly like birds!
Yes we have come a long way.
I don't believe for a second that a 707 would breakup in flight sonds suspicious.
Hmmm, it was the 1960s and while flight wasn't in it's infancy it wasn't as understood as it is today.
@@JapaneseHistory I consider the 707 a modern airframe and anything flying today would be just as likely to breakup in flight. The 50s when 707 was designed aircraft engineers knew 90% plus what modern engineers do. Remember these engineers are extremely smart. IMHO something other than the aircraft it's self is responsible for a break up and no it's not fuji sans fault.
@@larchman4327 The breakup of the 707 is hardly suspicious. In the investigation, it was found that the pin holding the tailfin had fatigue cracks, and the abnormal winds that hit the aircraft as it approached the mountain.
Indeed, this is something that could happen to modern aircraft - case in point, the crash of American Airlines Flight 587 in November 2001.
I agree, the 707 was built with all kinds of wind conditions in mind and not break up just like that... strong winds can push it around but the 707 was built to withstand that.
BOAC had excellent maintenance, they would not let their airliners fly with any metal faults....they learned from the comet accidents.
The movie producers were meant to be on that flight, could some kind of sabotage perhaps an explosive device have been the cause?
@@mariovuksanovic5077That’s definitely very true however: Mountain Wave Rotor Turbulence, also known as “Standing Wave” turbulence was poorly understood at the time. The wind gusts and extreme freakish turbulence that are associated with rotor turbulence are ABSOLUTELY LETHAL! Even today’s aircraft, that are much stronger, can still be damaged by Extreme Rotor Turbulence. When the winds are in a certain direction and severe mountain wave turbulence are forecast, Pilot’s will avoid flying in the Lee of the mountains to avoid this! The extreme wind gust that took the tail off G-APFE in 1966 was over 100 kts in speed about 130 mph and produced a clubbing sideways force of over 7.5 G! This enormous force far exceeded the aircraft’s design limits, and so destroyed the aircraft and likely killed everyone on board instantly. And, yes it could possibly happen again, unlikely but not impossible.
JA8119 JA8302 G-APFE
Yes JA8119 was a huge number of fatalities 505. Some years ago driving through the mountains of Gunma Prefecture I stumbled across this site.
CP402 was CF-CPK, "Empress of Edmonton", a Douglas DC-8-43, the last of 32 of that variant built and delivered barely 5 months earlier.
@@smwca123What are the chances of that happening? A B.O.A.C Boeing 707-436 taxies past the; still smouldering wreckage of the CP-Air Douglas DC-8-43 that crashed just a few hours before. Little did all those on board, who must have all seen this ghastly sight, realise, that a similar tragedy awaited them in less than 30 minutes! Also ironic. The Douglas DC-8-43 series had the same engines as the B.O.A.C Boeing 707-436 G-APFE had. Both fitted with the Rolls-Royce Conway 508 Low Bypass Turbofans. And both these terrible accidents happened within 24 hours of each other!