How To Spray A Professional Metal Flake Finish
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Well, it’s a well-known fact Sonny Jim, that metal flake finishes are cool… They have always been cool too.
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Wow! Simply WOW!!!
Thank you for making this video! Turned out as an amazing finish and really educational!
wow it was amazingly nicely done !!
Beautiful job Chris!
I learned so much from this video. Great channel.
You can't do enough videos about finishing! Great stuff guys.
That came out awesome!
Sweet colour effect, very nicely done Chris👌👍
Thanks brotherman
Outstanding job Chris!
Thanks so much Mike
I knew it and I told you, Chris! What an awesome video! What a great insight! Thanks a lot and more of it!
My pleasure!
Strong work again by Mr Fesker! Beautiful!
Chris is the man
Beautiful work guys
Thank for watching Karl
Just Freakin' WOW !!! Go Chris !! What a great job , as usual !!
Thanks Mike
Great walk thru. The final result looks killer.
Thanks JD
Watched it again Chris! That’s the color I think I would go with also!
Top shelf all the way!
Right on!
awesome thankyou!!
I learned a very important lesson in this video: I'm never, ever going to try a metal flake finish! hahah you guys are monsters.
God that paint job is beautiful! Great job Chris!
Thanks for watching Chris
That hologram flake looked cool by its self!
It is really cool by itself
Great vid Chris. 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it Greg
What an awesome paint job 👍👍😊
Thank you for watching David
Incredible finish. The flip flop of the sparkle was unexpectedly awesome.
It's good stuff man, see you soon
Looks great lads!
Thanks Andrew
Good work big shooter!
Great Video.. really interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That's some awesome stuff you've pulled guys! Niiice
Thanks Avi
I want a drum set done like that!!
sweet! good work!
Thanks for watching Ted
Sitting here looking at some flake on my shoes, rug, hats, etc. I get asked if I've been to a gentlemans club on occasion. Nice video. Good day.
You got that right Karl, that stuff gets everywhere
I love it! It looks incredible!👍😎🎸🎶
Thanks man, this is a super cool finish
@@TexasToastGuitars yep!🙂
Seeing that Pearl dance especially the edges is insane.Great vid cheers from Oz
Glad you enjoyed it my friend
Hey this is a great video, I appreciate you making it. Thanks very much it’s very informative and just what I was after. If you have any more tips on sealers, clear coats, any other paint products, polishes, waxes etc, I for one would be very grateful. Rock n Roll. 🤘🎸
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic work, Chris! I’ve been working on big boy painting in my garage as best I can and have a real appreciation for what you pulled off there. Speaking of, I better go out in the garage and sand some more! 🙄
Yeah get back to work Matt
Glitter is the homewrecker's calling card.
HAHAHA
Very nice job Chris. I've only every sprayed cars with metallics and the paint already had the metal flakes in it. Good to see how it's done from scratch.
I wouldn't mind seeing a video on how you guys made the buffing station
Thanks for watching Peter we can do more of these kinds of videos
Got to get me a buffer! Nice job! I want to build a Buck Owens Tele in metalflake. Don't know why but I do.
Cuz Buck Owens is super cool
What needle size do you use to spray metal flake? Good video - thanx
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
That flake is surfy! Chris' band! When I first saw the silver flake Tele that Don Rich played on Buck Owens tv show in the 60s, I bought some testers model car candy apple red metal flake and painted a Apollo guitar I had. 2 coats is all I could get out of the tiny can, still it was gorgeous! This was as good as it gets to show how to do flake! Thanxz
Thanks for watching my friend
I always like using the paint cups with the disposable liner that you just throw away over the metal ones. It saves a lot of time when you've got multiple colors to paint in the same day.
We like those too but are out of them at the moment
Frikkin' A-1 beautiful! Metal flake is the coolest.
Now it needs to be played through a big-ass tuck N roll Kustom using a curly cord. :)
I've mixed many a metallic, we used a mica that was stored in 1/2 or 3/4 pint (didn't pay much attention to the container size) squeeze bottles with the little flip nozzles like you see on consumer wax bottles.
We just tipped the bottle upside down and tap it lightly with the nozzle open to let out enough mica powder for the mix (measured by weight), but for heavy gallon mixes (Ford Toreador Red most commonly) you could actually give the bottle a few squeezes, just don't inhale much while you're doing that! :)
I kinda liked mixing paint, but I never applied any, Im happy to leave that stuff to pros, like you guys.
Thanks for watching my friend, we like metal flake too, it's so cool
is it possible to paint black base coat, then mix flakes with clear coat and top just clear coat?
Beautiful Arvada.
You got that right
@@TexasToastGuitars I'm an old Washington Park guy.
Holy cow! Chris’ shirt was sparkling in the sun light. Lol
Yeah man that shit gets in every nook & cranny
I think it would be really cool to see the full spray rig you guys are using. From the compressor all the way to the gun.
Sounds like a cool idea for a video
Thank you for the video. Paint seems hard to explain, got to just get to it and learn from your own mistakes.
You do need to jump in and do it, experience is key to something nice
Awesome end result, boys! Truly purdy! I've had thought of doing a guitar like one of my boats. It's a blue, aqua, silver poly flake like ya might see on a 70's repainted 'vette back in the day. Light plays great off the gelcoat on that old bass boat.
You should!
I did a bunch of prototype metal flake for Schwinn Bicycles in the 90’s . They named it Bass Boat. Bass boat red, Bass boat blue. This was the true start of my “it’s metal flake MFer” attitude.
Dam I wanna paint my car that colour 😂
You dig it the most baby
Great video and sweet paint job! could you tell me what kind of wax you use on the finished/buffed guitar body? Thanks.
I'll ask Chris
Awesome video Chris & Matt !!! Great camera work guys !!! Btw ... go back throught this video to where chris is laying down the purple & look for the point where he is doing the perimiter of the body. It looks like this sick purple-silverburst thing going on !! Might be a idea for a future color scheme for someone.
I love when people come up with ideas based on stuff in the videos
Very educational video. I was close to doing something similar, now that I have a clue what goes into it, I think I'll just pay someone :P
That is sick
Turned out pretty good right
@@TexasToastGuitars no that's insanely good. Yall are awesome!
I need to get some funds together. Lol
What an awesome video!! Comes perfectly timed as I’m in the middle of spraying a guitar with red metallic flakes. Only question would be should I spray with nitrocellulose lacquer or master clear(automotive clear coat)? What would the nitro do to the red metallic flakes? All the best!!! Carlos
deegz metal flake is easier to bury in urethane clear. It’s at least twice as much paint using lacquer.
There are a lot of reasons we stopped using lacquer of any kind
Texas Toast Guitars thank you all. Really appreciate the feedback. I’ve watched all of your videos on finishing. I know you guys favour automotive finishes. I have a question that’s a little more involved. Can I shoot you an email just to get your opinion? Thanks for the videos, tremendous help!!
9:53 if he doesn't sand the sides to get rid of that orange peel effect then how does he get rid of it? Does the medium buff remove it?
Chris & Matt, Awesome Job, I'm not a glitter guy but that is a Beautiful finish you did*** You guys Rule******
Thanks Scott
Cool! I couldn't see that finish coming out that well until Chris apparently invoked the spirit of Bob Ross and put the final buffer-mojo to it lol. All jokes aside, that turned out beautiful, Chris!
Glad you liked it John
Yes Sir !
Thanks for watching brotherman
Do you have any advice for getting a silverburst finish right? Appreciate the channel!
Well... it's a pretty standard burst with non standard colors. You will need to get the silver right and match the burst to the guitar. Gibson's do a pear shaped burst while Fender follows the perimeter.
Awesome walk-through (and paint job)! I'm curious what would you do differently if you sprayed metal flake regularly... you can't chuck the spray gun and room supplies every time you spray.
If you sprayed a lot of flake you should consider a separate room so as not to contaminate every subsequent paint job
@@TexasToastGuitars Separate room, specialized use guns, and specialized use hoses are expensive and for most of us not possible. I guess then the answer for us DIY-ers is "clean your room, clean your guns, and clean your hoses" or go rattle can...
@@tedblumstein6772 Well, the original question was about if you did metal flake finishes regularly. Assuming you are getting paid for all these finishes the cost would be more easily absorbed
So what size flake are you using? I'm guessing by the purple HF gun you're using .004 since that's a 1.4 tip...is that right? Where do you get the Holographic Silver flake?
What metal flake brand are you using?
What's the shade of purple? (It's close enough to prs nebula for me)
How many ounces of clear did this take? Wondering if a half pint is enough for a similar job.
How is the Glanz Wax versus Mizerna?
I have never seen a poor paint job from Chris!
He is the mac daddy
@@TexasToastGuitars I heard he was the daddy mac.
But I understand neither of these statements lol
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very cool Chris !!!!…. definitely see the hot-rod influence…. would look awesome on something with big curves …like a '50 Mercury or '33 Ford or Schwinn Fastback… too bad it's such a pain in the ass to spray ….
You got that right
Black should always be used for metal flake. It causes an illusion and cast baby shadows on the silver metal flake making it look like its dancing and sparkling... It highlights and lowlights the light and heavy sides of the flake. It is what it is lol🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂❤❤😂😂😂
How better is GlanzMax compared to Menzerna? Love your work guys!
It is enough better that we shall not by Menzerna again
@@TexasToastGuitars thanks!!! I'll give it a try!!! Keep on the amazing work!!
@4:35 - HF special?? Looks like mine! What size schnozzle? Did you have a 1.4 or larger tip on that, Chris?
Factory stock
That was Kewl 😎👌🏾
Thanks man
Interesting how the numbers on the Glanzmax seem to go the wrong way. My head processes 60 to 30 as getting rougher. I would have screwed that on up for shure.
Very nice. Question for Chris: Have you ever had the metal flake get streaky? Any tips for avoiding that? (I've seen some rally bad paint jobs on cars.)
bevo65 A wide spray pattern helps. Cars have much wider panels than a guitar, so I’m kinda lucky.
Thanks Chris
Yes, it would be much appreciated, and worth a beer on me whenever I get out to that part of the country (or if NAMM goes back to an in person event), if you made a video giving detailed descriptions of all the types of products, and a wide variety of examples of the better products made by different companies, used at each step, utilizing a few different processes (I'm assuming you employ a few different processes to achieve different results), in finishing guitars and basses (drum shells, too, probably).
I have a decent small gun for details, bursts, fades, etc., and a cheaper HTE gun that I'm told works great. I used my laboratory clean room experience to build a "paint booth" out of plastic tarps, with filtered fans for inflow and outflow, above my garage. The best part was getting a buffing tool, similar to yours, in an auction for ONE DOLLAR! I have beautiful buffing wheels from a German company that located one of their new facilities near us.
We'll see what we can do
What was Chris using to prep before applying black base coat? (Rubbed on with rag)
That was a tack rag to get little dust bits off
So much better when Chris does a video instead of that loudmouth, Matt! :O That is one cool finish. Hey Chris, I noticed you didn't sand the roundovers. Was that because the paint on them was smooth enough or just because you didn't want to burn through the thinner finish there? Oh, and keep that catchphrase. It's perfect for you.
Yeah, Matt sucks
Also curious if the GlanzMax is better than Menzerna, or about the same? Was looking at both recently but pulled the trigger on the Menzerna just because it seemed like the defacto standard.
We used to use the Menzerna, it was good, no doubt
Back in the day, we used Binks brand of spray guns.Do guys still use these.? Nice job Chris.👍🎸
bob bitchen I had a Binks siphon gun for years. Shot all sorts of finishes, including a bunch of metal flake. I haven’t used a newer Binks - but ai’m sure its still a good gun.
Thanks Chris
You can buy a dry flake gun now. You spray the base coat then the sealer and the spray dry flakes into the wet sealer or 1st layer of clear coat.
The gun is easy to clean but you still find flake everywhere.
Yep those a re pretty neat
is there a way to do the buffer part without the buffer machine? :D
There are some other tools you could use
When putting on the clear coat you wore a full paint suit. Was this extra caution to not get boogers in the clear, or is it because the clear coat is more toxic?
Trying to keep crud off the finish
How powerful is the motor that runs the buffing station? I've had a tendency to under power things...
I can't remember, let me check
So metal flake is the coronavirus of paint booths 😱🤔😉.Chris you do very well! ... with all the prep , paint etc as well in front of the camera . Make look so easy. /Got the right stuff sir! 👏🏼👊🏼👌🏼🍺🌻 ps like that buffer! Go kart axle?
Standard shaft stock with RH threads on one side and LH on the other
FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!! 👍
Not sure if it's needed is todays urethane paints but I remember the 'ol timers dropping a couple glass marbles in their paint cups to help keep the metal flake suspended and agitated in the gun. Supposedly it kept the flake from laying out too flat or uneven in the finish? Of course that was with the old bottom feed Binks guns of the day. No clue if the HVLP guns are any better in this regard.
You are well advised to use something to agitate the flake if you are using a syphon gun
Since (like a jerk) I didn't say it in my original comment.....Beautiful work Bro!!
What kind of filter are you using on your respirators? And where can I get them? Pretty sure the p100 I ordered from amazon is a counterfeit.
Oh man that sucks, we just use the ones that come with the kits from the auto paint shop
Texas Toast Guitars I suppose I’ll go to the paint shop then. Yea fortunately I’m not spraying super toxic stuff. But still.. thanks for the info!
Is that body shape a Jaguar or a Talman?
Waaaaiiiit a second, Chris just said his glove was glittery!
Like Michael Jackson
Ha Ha yeah, it would have been funny if he grabbed his crotch, said "Who, Who" and did a spin. ;-)
That Glanz Max from jescar is the bee’s knee’s aye?
Yes
It's the good stuff kids go for
Hey Texas Toast guys, so I had to come back to this... if I want to buy the same flakes like you used where can I get them?
Hi Gill
i think we got those from Amazon
@@TexasToastGuitars awesome thanks.
Hopefully you see this, but how total many hours into it? Trying to decide to buy stuff or have it done, thanks! @@TexasToastGuitars
@@SoundPeke I think you should go for it and do the paint work. The more you do it the faster you will get
@@TexasToastGuitars Do you guys keep track of how many hours goes into each flake job or just a flat fee? Thanks. That will help me assess effort *(x)
Is that metalflake finish aluminum flake or pearlescent powder? Most original metalflake finishes were aluminum powders but as they only come in a small amount of finishes and sizes most cars are now coated with pearlescent powders. They offer a wider range of colors and also the color changing technology that you used on this guitar.
Today's metalflake particles are metalized polyester (like mylar). Pearl powders are different, and range in material from mica to glass.
I don't really know what things are made from... does it really matter?
Niiice.....
Thanks Yvan
glitter... lol.. that sounds like something my wife would call it.
We hear that daughters call it that as well
What does a paint job like this cost?
Oh, don't know... it gets rolled into the overall cost of the guitar. We no longer offer paint work for other makers or do refinish work.
If you use purple flakes would you still need to put a purple beforehand
Not necessarily if you have purple flakes you could get total coverage with that too
this is the EXACT same color I want my Custom Strat to be !!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKIN BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can make that happen
Chrysler Turbine Bronze is an exceptionally great metal flake if you want to get past CAR and Lake Pelham blue. I love its history. Mopar also had a few other cool metallics.
We love metallic and metal flakes
@@TexasToastGuitars Colorwise check out House of Kolor, but their stuff might not be ideal for guitars from other standpoints.
Chrysler Turbine Bronze was a duPont color called "Fire Frost". It was originally acrylic lacquer IIRC, I can try to get you a paint code if you want. It's really cool. Make sure you are getting the original 1963 shade Ghia had. Chrysler later issued CTB as a production color in '65 or '66 but it was too bronzeish and not red enough.
@2:33 - Chris said "glittery".... Bad Chris, bad, bad Chris!!!!!!! hehehehe
We’re all probably yawning less since we can’t see other people yawning with their masks on.
Man you are quick. I mean, you drink Red Bull?
I do like tuline
@10:50 - Isn't glanz the tip of a..... uh, nevermind... please continue...
Beats me
Yes. Terrible name, great product!
If you buff it too much you'll go blind
Great paint job. I had to give you a down vote for the warning label though.
Thanks
hahaha, you could see that shit glistening in the air outside when you were filming.
It gets EVERYWHERE!