even the Primarch Guilliman after returning to the Imperium Palace got freaked out by these wanted them nowhere near him, apparently the Ecclesiarchy had to convince him they were not real babies turned into servitors and were pretty useful like robots. Guilliman still said nope and shut off his door
It’s kinda of funny to think that at own point they were 100 percent gonna be servitors made out of actual babies but some writer was just like “ya no that’s to far “
That just means they're weak, because the Imperium would 100% do this and we all know it. Hell, there would definitely be parents that would consider it an honor to have their sick/dying/totally healthy baby be turned into a Cherub to aid the Imperium.
@@benjamintherogue2421why waste babyflesh? Lets be honest, it's probably gifted to a sister after her child's death. Suffering is virtue, mortification of the flesh, you know, Catholic doctrine. They're 1,000% magos biologis abortions-waste not want not.
I mean, if they are grown in labs then they are still children, but in vitro. Something like the Death Korps of Krieg, but instead of raising them to be soldiers you turn them into brainless cherub-servitors
You can bet your ass they use actual babies as well. It's either that or the specialty baby incinerators, which they have attached to hospitals to dispose of sufficiently ugly babies.
@@Asterion_Mol0c Well, actually, there's litteraly tons of worlds where absolutely jack-shit happens and you're kinda stuck in the middle age, tech wise. It's just that the prism of the W40K lore is centered around the conflicts, so you don't really realize it, but there is billions of humans who live easy, if a bit harsh, lives in the universe depicted.
@@Tacoguy1000 that was more of before his empire turned into a bunch of religious fanatics. Despite being akin to a God, golden boy was hardcore atheist and believed more in science than anything. He banned religion and destroyed it when he was uniting Terra. Course now it’s surfaced again and it’s all focused on him and the Primarchs.
@@Argento_Wolf Well, then I hope the irony of dressing up like the cathedral murals of old he sought to avoid is not lost on him. He kind of shot himself on the foot with that one at least, especially when visiting bald choir boy.
Old lore for cherubs was far darker. Before the retcon cherubs were made when an infant died or was a stillbirth. Not actually living the life given was considered a grave sin and insult to Big E. The route for the salvation of the child's soul was to be repurposed into a servitor.
Thank throne someone finally mentioned the retcon... that they were still born or died young - but i thought it was an honour for mostly nobel families who had lost a child to have them made into glorious and angelic servators assisting the Emperors armies.... not that it was an insult to have such a short life..... that is dark indeed... But hey, many planets, many cherubs - I reckon all explainations exist somewhere sometime :)
@@benwall1284 that retcon takes grimmdark (old) and makes it edgelord. At least in the grimmdark its a twisted idea of honor and living a life of service despite never getting the chance. Now it's just oooooo cherub asthetics by the tech monks for the church folk.
I remember reading a line years ago in a 40k book describing that one type of Cherub is essentially a flying baby bluetooth speaker that would fly around playing holy hymns. Ominous as hell.
A lesser known function of Cherubs are their cockblocking abilities. As the mutated babylike monstrosity gets between you and the very fit Faithfull lady in power armor.
When I saw them for the first time whilst looking through stuff on GW my headcanon was: yup, these were the babies of Sororitas. Which would be soo much more metal
Sure, they don't turn actual babies into them, but someone in the Imperium somewhere down the line thought they actively needed to make these horrific little things, and I'm not sure that's much better lol Thanks for making the short! I was the requester last vid :)
Thats what gets me thinking when I see them. Someone, had the idea to clone a human, grow it in a vat until its the size of a baby and than modify them. That so weird.
This is a great microcosm of 40k. When you first see them you think, 'they're horrifying and useless.' But when you learn what they do you think, 'OK, so they're just horrifying.'
We hav cherubs like cupid in our lore, but that's just too cute for 40k, so instead of a love bow and arrows theirs have guns and terminator faces. I'd say there's are a hell of a lot cooler.
Fun fact. Not all cherubs are vat-grown. We have seen a example of a noble who had his stillborn child converted into a cherub Which was apperantly a great honor. So while they at least arent "harvested" for that purpose there are cherubs made from baby corpses.
I can only imagine one creeped out citizen trying to wave off swarms of them that keep flying too close during a parade or something like people with flies at a picnic
40k be like: Completely artificial beings that just happen to look creepy: "Now, that's disturbing". Skull servitors made of actual human beings: Tuesday.
Im actually glad to find this out. When I read it in a book. I was like wtf? Hoping that they were just still born, or already dead babies. Finding out theyre just vat grown biomass is actually "humane" in comparison to 40k.
Funny thing is: the imperial definition of 'AI' requires that it be sentient in order to be illegal. Meaning there'd be nothing wrong with just having regular ass drones do all this, the imperium is just really fucked up.
Just by looking at them, you know 100% you're coming away from that hug more damp than when you initiated it. The Cherubim: Emissary of the Divine. Keeper of Moist Hugs.
That's sort of what the old lore was, old lore cherubs were stillborns that due to dogmatic beliefs were turned into servitors to "save the child's soul"
At some point you start to notice when the imperium starts to stray far from the light of the emperor. First it was the ecclesiarchy and then its this.
What is up with those suspicious holes in the chest of the first robot. I see ribs and a skull under the plating which makes me think that there may have been meat on that bot.
Cherubs are one of those things in 40K that are just so perfectly adapted to the setting. They are exactly what 40K cherubs would be, if that makes any sense.
You ever think to yourself "Am I a monster for being interested in a franchise that has literal baby slaves?" I am. Right now. Then again I've quite literally only had negative interactions with other 40k fans.
So long as you recognise the Imperium for what it is, (a deliberate parody of all the worst things humanity has been or done in it's IRL history, combined into one dark fictional concept) and take that as a cautionary example, rather than genuinely glorify it, then you're fine. It's fun so long as you are just enjoying the crazy backdrop it provides, and don't actually identify with it. It's the weird 40k fans that can't properly comprehend or separate that fiction that concern me. The ones that actually gobble up the in-universe propaganda and un-ironically think it's great, or anything but a nightmare. It's funny that the Imperium and other 40k factions are so bad, that the contrast is able to make the Tau actually look like the good guys by a significant margin. Even despite how if you really look at it objectively, even they are an ambitiously imperialist and warlike faction, with a strict caste system, and a form of caste locked government that is highly dictatorial and manipulative. In any other setting they'd be the bad guys. Basically the Covenant from the Halo universe.
@UnknownSquid this is the best way to describe what it's supposed to be! Unfortunately, there are always psychopath manbabies who view themselves as space marines rather than slaves and sacrifices...
"I know flesh is weak and all but like... what if we grew little fleshbabies to hold our guns"
Isn't the sisters the ones who request the mecanicus if they can do that?
Flesh may be weak, but AI is haram, so...
they did this to symbolise the the purity of babies or something. you know, no chaos corruption and all that
Yeah, it would make less sense than using drones.
@@Cornholio8787how the chaos react to cherub though?
even the Primarch Guilliman after returning to the Imperium Palace got freaked out by these wanted them nowhere near him, apparently the Ecclesiarchy had to convince him they were not real babies turned into servitors and were pretty useful like robots. Guilliman still said nope and shut off his door
Guilliman is just like "make a fucking robot that flys man"
Rowboat Girlyman*
Also he literally wanted to grab a net to rebuild ones anti-grav motor, because it's unstable flight struck even his small technological side
Can you blame him, even I thought they were made from real babies at first?!?
@@Captain_Bart_PetersonThink he also said something about Perturabo where he would fix and improve upon it immediately.
It’s kinda of funny to think that at own point they were 100 percent gonna be servitors made out of actual babies but some writer was just like “ya no that’s to far “
That just means they're weak, because the Imperium would 100% do this and we all know it.
Hell, there would definitely be parents that would consider it an honor to have their sick/dying/totally healthy baby be turned into a Cherub to aid the Imperium.
@@benjamintherogue2421why waste babyflesh? Lets be honest, it's probably gifted to a sister after her child's death. Suffering is virtue, mortification of the flesh, you know, Catholic doctrine.
They're 1,000% magos biologis abortions-waste not want not.
Yeah that'd be just too tryhard edgy lol
@@jart198440k IS tryhard edgy
@@benjamintherogue2421 its more just grimderp
Its less horrific than using babies, but only slightly.
Was gonna say! For 40k these are practically ethical
@@GreySpecimenits only because gee dibs doesnt want dead baby lore in their universe otherwise you can bet your bottom dollar theyd do it!
@@TheAngelosShowit would be pretty grimderp anyways.
I mean, if they are grown in labs then they are still children, but in vitro. Something like the Death Korps of Krieg, but instead of raising them to be soldiers you turn them into brainless cherub-servitors
You can bet your ass they use actual babies as well. It's either that or the specialty baby incinerators, which they have attached to hospitals to dispose of sufficiently ugly babies.
Normal people: "why babies?"
40k fan: "why not?"
The reason why is because they resemble the baby angels you see in bible artwork and GW likes to imitate religion with a grimdark twist.
Its the least worrying in 40k
Real 40k fan: "They're cheaper...they eat less corpse starch!"
Cherubs isn't a 40k invention. The "real life" versions are even more disturbing imo since they're naked little boys.
lol I can appreciate the Dark Eldar reference XD
I figured they were babies, for 40K I would say its “heartwarming” to know they’re purportedly not
Uhhhh..."vat-grown" from genetic material is a baby. Pretty sure cherubs run on baby spines.
They are they're just vat-grown babies.
Remember the imperium of man is full of false information and lies so take it with a grain of salt. I am alphairus
Can't wait for this to show up in Live Action, the catholic church is gonna summon the real templars on GW
@@maddmann9498the Catholic church is actually very gothic.
"See, this? This right here? This is the reason the guard sees you astartes, sisters, and cogboys and girls as freaks!"
Yet another sign that anyone from the modern world sent into 40k would be vomiting in disgust and shitting themselves in fear at the same time.
You’d think so, but we do horrific things to children now, and too many people think those horrors are virtuous.
Pretty much no way of not getting killed
@@Asterion_Mol0c Well, actually, there's litteraly tons of worlds where absolutely jack-shit happens and you're kinda stuck in the middle age, tech wise.
It's just that the prism of the W40K lore is centered around the conflicts, so you don't really realize it, but there is billions of humans who live easy, if a bit harsh, lives in the universe depicted.
@@TheMagictinou I'm saying the imperium will likely kill you
Don't forget, they stretch synthetic human skin over their frames to make them appear more human
Just why?
@@ruffalo1643because it's fuckin warhammer
@@ImperialGuardsman2 😥🚬
Dude, just when you think W40k can't get more F up, you find some random comment like this taking it to 11 lol
@@mr.redhands8390Not as bad as the daemonculaba
I’m just imagining the Emperor waking up and being just absolutely sickened by what his empire has become, not to mention disgusted by these things.
That's why he keeps hitting the snooze button on the Gooden throne. Dude would rather skellify than have to have to face it
Are we sure he would? He didn't seem to have any qualms with Night Lords or Words bearers and the sort.
@@Tacoguy1000 that was more of before his empire turned into a bunch of religious fanatics. Despite being akin to a God, golden boy was hardcore atheist and believed more in science than anything. He banned religion and destroyed it when he was uniting Terra. Course now it’s surfaced again and it’s all focused on him and the Primarchs.
@@Argento_Wolf Well, then I hope the irony of dressing up like the cathedral murals of old he sought to avoid is not lost on him. He kind of shot himself on the foot with that one at least, especially when visiting bald choir boy.
@@Tacoguy1000 yup
Taking "Child soldier" to almost every extreme
cherub: what is my purpose
mechanicus: you deliver paper
Cherub: Oh my God-Emperor 😢.
I like to imagine the pure confusion and discuss both guilliman and the lion felt when seeing one of these abominations for the first time
Old lore for cherubs was far darker.
Before the retcon cherubs were made when an infant died or was a stillbirth. Not actually living the life given was considered a grave sin and insult to Big E. The route for the salvation of the child's soul was to be repurposed into a servitor.
Thank throne someone finally mentioned the retcon... that they were still born or died young - but i thought it was an honour for mostly nobel families who had lost a child to have them made into glorious and angelic servators assisting the Emperors armies.... not that it was an insult to have such a short life..... that is dark indeed... But hey, many planets, many cherubs - I reckon all explainations exist somewhere sometime :)
@@benwall1284 and one cheerub actually becomes planetary governor because reasons.
@@benwall1284 that retcon takes grimmdark (old) and makes it edgelord.
At least in the grimmdark its a twisted idea of honor and living a life of service despite never getting the chance.
Now it's just oooooo cherub asthetics by the tech monks for the church folk.
@@hourglasyeah GW nu-lore has just gotten worse and worse
Thats metal as fuck
BABY BRENT, BRING THE AMMO CAN
Baby gurgling and cooing noises as a fresh box of heavy stubber ammunition drops next to the gun with an audible thump.
I remember reading a line years ago in a 40k book describing that one type of Cherub is essentially a flying baby bluetooth speaker that would fly around playing holy hymns. Ominous as hell.
A lesser known function of Cherubs are their cockblocking abilities. As the mutated babylike monstrosity gets between you and the very fit Faithfull lady in power armor.
.....cock *w h a t ?*
Difficult, but not impossible.
Apparently they can also do the opposite by releasing pheromones onto the local populace of a Hive City in the hopes of increasing their numbers.
When I saw them for the first time whilst looking through stuff on GW my headcanon was: yup, these were the babies of Sororitas. Which would be soo much more metal
I hate how much this would make sense.
Ah at least they are not made from real babies
The very expensive ones are.
Well...their...are some...
do check up on Nephilim, and yes first Cherubs were made from dead babies or still born ones.
Well, they used to.
Thank god it got retconned
Holy shit GW
Tau: WHY…….. WHY DO YOU DO THIS?
G Man: I don’t know…..
Fun fact. Some cherubs can also enhance a Psykers power
Because flying robot babies isn't enough
They need to be fucking wizards too
The ones that carry Bolters or even Prometheum weapons are terrifying as well
Yet another case in the 40k universe of Why?
The answer: Because it's fuckin warhammer
Because in the process if seeing if they could, they didn't stop and think if they should.
Aesthetics.
Sure, they don't turn actual babies into them, but someone in the Imperium somewhere down the line thought they actively needed to make these horrific little things, and I'm not sure that's much better lol
Thanks for making the short! I was the requester last vid :)
Thats what gets me thinking when I see them. Someone, had the idea to clone a human, grow it in a vat until its the size of a baby and than modify them. That so weird.
Goge Vandire moment
This is a great microcosm of 40k.
When you first see them you think, 'they're horrifying and useless.'
But when you learn what they do you think, 'OK, so they're just horrifying.'
So the babies from Dantes inferno....but a terminator pet???
Bewinged baby meat.
Imperials are just so nasty, I swear to the gods...
FAWK NO! *(Vaporises Flying Corpse baby)*
Pov: When kids are made even more terrifing and usefull.
Tau must think we do this to actual babies
If I was a Tau, I would hyperventilate at the sight of these things.
@@ruffalo1643They do
@@Asterion_Mol0cBased
They are actual babies either way.
That moment when John Blanche won’t stop drawing weird winged cyber babies onto the artwork so you have to come up with a lore explanation for it.
We hav cherubs like cupid in our lore, but that's just too cute for 40k, so instead of a love bow and arrows theirs have guns and terminator faces. I'd say there's are a hell of a lot cooler.
Fun fact, actual biblical cherubs were probably equally horrifying compared to this.
@@DrakusLuthosarguably moreso
Imagine putting bombs on them
Fun fact. Not all cherubs are vat-grown. We have seen a example of a noble who had his stillborn child converted into a cherub Which was apperantly a great honor. So while they at least arent "harvested" for that purpose there are cherubs made from baby corpses.
Horrible. Simply horrible.
That like fully mechanical cherub at the vary beginning looks like it would fit perfectly into a steampunk setting.
I can definitely see Sanguinius and Konrad liking these things for very different reasons.
Not to mention like the servitor they are always recording everything they see and they are usually the witnesses to miracles.
I can only imagine one creeped out citizen trying to wave off swarms of them that keep flying too close during a parade or something like people with flies at a picnic
This and the cherubs from Doom 3 were creepy as f.
Cogboys( tech priest) ; 0101010101010101010102( we need more scented oils for our holy toaster!!!!)
Cherub; 01010102010101( coming right up!!)
FLYING BABIES
Funny that people think that real babies would be too dark...In the grim darkness of the far future
"Don't worry they're not made of real babies we swear!" Sure... I totally believe you... ... ...
Seeing as these things disgust/creep out Guilliman.. imagine what Big E's reaction will be to them.
I’m strangely okay with these.
40k be like:
Completely artificial beings that just happen to look creepy: "Now, that's disturbing".
Skull servitors made of actual human beings: Tuesday.
I literally avoided looking up this particular lore because I'd have bet my eyes they were just orphan babies or something.
👼 “sister, why was I made?”
👩🚒 “you were made to pass the butter.”
👼 “Oh. My. Emperor!”
I honestly believed these were the bodies of actual babies but I'm relieved to know that's not the case, still creepy tho 😳
Tyranids gon be having fun with this one
Cherubs in Helluva Boss: 💫👍🏻
Cherubs in Warhammer: 💀
Im actually glad to find this out. When I read it in a book. I was like wtf? Hoping that they were just still born, or already dead babies. Finding out theyre just vat grown biomass is actually "humane" in comparison to 40k.
Crazy everytime I see a 40k illustration the only thing I can think about is how bad it must smell with all the oil, sweat,blood and shit 😂
Honestly less grim dark than i was expecting, as effed as they are
“Imperials are so Fucking nasty I swear to the God!”
-Magnus the Red
I've been waiting for a vid about these creature forever! Thanks!
No problem good sir!
babybots?
Sanguinis is going to go nuclear when he sees one of these
Those are just imperium Cherubs. Imagine chaos cherubs lol.
I'm 100% sure they're not all vatgrown. Especially when there's a suspiciously large number of them following around Sisters of Battle.
😂
nah, I gotta agree with TTS Magnus on this one, "NO MORE BEWINGED BABY MEAT"
Guilliman called them an abomination
I tend to agree with the regent
Of course the Adeptus Mechanicus would weaponize infant lookalikes. As if yhey weren't disturbing enough already
By technicality, these dudes aren't human, so they are AI?
Ehhh, on the edge
A.I is outlawed by the Imperium due to a little incident involving a bunch of men made out of iron rebelling 😅
Honestly, why do they bother with regular servitors if the mechanicus could just crank these guys out from vats to do the exact same thing?
Funny thing is: the imperial definition of 'AI' requires that it be sentient in order to be illegal. Meaning there'd be nothing wrong with just having regular ass drones do all this, the imperium is just really fucked up.
Jagatai in the stain glass windows as one of the twelve apostles, is truly a perplexing image I never expected to encounter, even by 40k standards
Let's not forget they didn't say they were specifically vat grown at first
Tiny baby drones with cannon arms are something i never thought id say i want but god damnit send me ten
Imagine that if our great gold papa wakes up, what will he do after discovering all of the "lovely" things that the present gov did 😊
From what I understand, the Adeptus Mechanicus always did play fast and loose with the regulations of the Imperium.
… equally terrifying and weirdly ADORABLE!
Just by looking at them, you know 100% you're coming away from that hug more damp than when you initiated it.
The Cherubim:
Emissary of the Divine.
Keeper of Moist Hugs.
Cherubs the answer to the question where warhammer 40k draws the line.
Drukhari Haemonculi: Hohohoo. Adorable...😈
I always thought they were just what happens to abortions in 40k.
That's sort of what the old lore was, old lore cherubs were stillborns that due to dogmatic beliefs were turned into servitors to "save the child's soul"
The emperor waking up and seeing all the disturbing shit that humanity has been getting up to: What...the fuck...is all of this
Cleanliness is Holiness
GW: "theyre dead bab- errrrr lab grown."
I cant focus on the lore because god the art is so gorgeous wow
Knowing the mechanicus some of them are probably made from real babies
Oh my god that's terrifying!!!😢
Less terrifying then being actual babys
They literally said yuh, its all about aesthetic and proceeded to vat grow organisms that resemble late term abortions💀then put wings on them 😭
I don't believe they were grown in jars. It's just even the imperium thought the truth was too gruesome to tell
I always thought they were real babies just like other servitors and I have to say that I feel.... disappointed!
They used to be actual Babies but they retcon that because it was too Grimdark.
@@Underworlddream now I am even more disappointed
The imperium: Yo, we gotta run the imperium as effeciently as possible, we're in a literal galaxy wide stalemate.
Also the imperium:
At some point you start to notice when the imperium starts to stray far from the light of the emperor. First it was the ecclesiarchy and then its this.
Dark eldar be like: "Ew, that's disturbing"
What is up with those suspicious holes in the chest of the first robot. I see ribs and a skull under the plating which makes me think that there may have been meat on that bot.
Shhhh
the more I learn about 40k, the more terrified I am
Cherubs are one of those things in 40K that are just so perfectly adapted to the setting.
They are exactly what 40K cherubs would be, if that makes any sense.
What lore should we add to this convoluted plot?
Writers: yes...all of it
How much friction occurs between the Ecclesiarchy and the AdMech when conducting the business of trading Cherubs?
I imagine it must be huge. I always thought the AdSoro hated mutants and freaks
It’s only designed to look like children cause that makes it better, now here eat this corpse starch cause we’re not cannibals
>when you criticize a SoB so she deploys her servibortions.
You ever think to yourself "Am I a monster for being interested in a franchise that has literal baby slaves?"
I am. Right now. Then again I've quite literally only had negative interactions with other 40k fans.
Hope that within some communities you can find some decent people! The not greatest people are usually the loudest sadly
So long as you recognise the Imperium for what it is, (a deliberate parody of all the worst things humanity has been or done in it's IRL history, combined into one dark fictional concept) and take that as a cautionary example, rather than genuinely glorify it, then you're fine. It's fun so long as you are just enjoying the crazy backdrop it provides, and don't actually identify with it.
It's the weird 40k fans that can't properly comprehend or separate that fiction that concern me. The ones that actually gobble up the in-universe propaganda and un-ironically think it's great, or anything but a nightmare.
It's funny that the Imperium and other 40k factions are so bad, that the contrast is able to make the Tau actually look like the good guys by a significant margin. Even despite how if you really look at it objectively, even they are an ambitiously imperialist and warlike faction, with a strict caste system, and a form of caste locked government that is highly dictatorial and manipulative. In any other setting they'd be the bad guys. Basically the Covenant from the Halo universe.
@UnknownSquid this is the best way to describe what it's supposed to be!
Unfortunately, there are always psychopath manbabies who view themselves as space marines rather than slaves and sacrifices...
even RowDoused Gillsandman was scared of these
They are basically "flesh-baby like" mini drones that follow it's commander...yes, a very WH40k concept
I would love to have one, that would be the best pet.
BEWINGED BABY MEAT!? FUCK NO! *warp blast to pieces*
this stuff reminds us the imperium is just as horrifying as chaos