How to spot odometer rollback fraud on your used vehicle
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2019
- If you’re purchasing a used vehicle, look for signs of a rollback. Are the brake pedals worn? Is the steering wheel tattered, but the car only has 40,000 miles?
Matilda's dad is at it again
The mechanic is the real scam! He let his customer pay $17,000 fixing a worthless pile of crap!
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@@destinytaylore XD
17k in repairs for a car he over spent originally on. He could have gave that one away and purchased a much nicer one cheaper than the 17k he spent on it. I could see if he had a lot of sentimental value in it like maybe losing his virginity in it but he said he seen it in a field (maybe a red flag right there) while on vacation. I say easy payday for the seller and for the buyer it’s a lesson learned to know what you’re looking at while buying a car.
I hope that was a mistake cuz 1,700 I can see..17k bro u can get a brand new car gtfoh
I disliked because they don’t actually show how to identify if your odometer has been rolled back. Clickbait.
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Yes they did actually say it they said to check the
They did say how to identify how to know if your odometer has been rolled back
Carfax on the vehicle
This vid is an ad for Carfax. Simple.
break pedal saloon steering wheel if it have too much damage that's it
If it’s a digital odometer, it’s hard to spot with your eye. You’ll need a computer reading because those aren’t often reset
Even if that old Jag didn't have a rollback it would still be a money pit to fix and keep running.
The old joke is when you buy a jag you have a car mechanic ride with you all the time.
I knew a guy once who always wanted a jaguar I think it was the same one thats in the video, he said never did a month go by that something did fail on it.he finally got sick of and tried to sell it, Nobody even wanted it.
I never heard anything good about those older jaguars..everyone I know that had them complained they constantly broke and needed work done.. hopefully the new ones are a better product only time will tell
They are junk.
The funniest thing is that it probably wasn't even rolled back it was probably just sitting outside too long. 😂
I sold a car with 300k miles on it , the next day I saw it for sell on FB with 122000 miles on it
and you just told every dealer to replace worn steering wheels and gas pedals, lol. Before buying a car, just spend the extra cash to get a true mechanics inspection. If the dealer even gives a hint of fear or tries to talk his sale into your soul with bs after you mention it, abort, unless he gives a good deal. Generally, what I don't see online is the fact that most dealers, their main goal is double their money on the blue book price. So if the car is 14,000, they most likely bought it for 7,000. Doesn't mean you can low ball them, unless you absolutely know what you're talking about. Insulting a dealer won't get you that car, you want a dealer to respect your knowledge and candor
No real advice,they taught other people how to roll it back lol
knowledge is power, get in the game or stay out the way
Dont they earn alot of money from people who got shitty roll back cars? Ofc they teach more people to do it.
Thanks you just told 55K people how to rollback miles. 🙄
Lmaooo soo true
its easy to do, if you know how to use a laptop. You can find software for this purpose on-line.
143k now
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People are going to be rolling back the mileage on their Honda’s,KIA’s etc to get an extra 200.00 LOL.
*Never ever* buy a jaguar.
Buy Toyota
one man army buy Japanese
Jesus Morales no just buy toyota
Jesus Morales Nissan and Mitsubishi are Japanese but there nothing but unreliable junk, Hyundai and Kia have better reliability then Mitsubishi,Nissan and Subaru
Buy Toyota no other cheap Japanese brands, only Toyota that Japanese car
@@3rdiDRaGZPS3 he didnt say that
The best way to know there was a rollback on the car is to check its VIN history of maintenance, every time you get an oil change with reputable businesses or an auto repair, those businesses report what miles the car was checked up on.
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that can be changed or faked, and what if you changed your oil or made other repairs but didn't ask for invoice, and you also just shaked hands and paid the mechanic for the small repair you had, or you alltogether didn't write it..
carfax not reliable, also reason carfax has ridiculous amount of disclaimers.
My 2008 wrangler only has 45,000 miles on it. The engine is in great condition but the rest of the Jeep shows it’s age. So wear and tear isn’t always an accurate tell tale sign. I’ve just never lived more than a few miles from work, and I don’t like to go anywhere lol
Thats low miles for the year but pretty high miles for a jeep. Might be time to trade it up. You prolly won’t get many more miles out of the engine, it being a jeep, and Id be willing to bet that you prolly need struts, tie rod ends, wheel bearings, control arm bushings, sway bar links maybe even new motor and tranny mounts with that extremely high mileage. Not talking shit I just know these facts from experience. Good luck though! 😊
Your biggest saving grace is a PRE PURCHASE INSPECTION! On literally any used car you're interested in. Without one, any car can be a mess of trouble. I wish I had taken my own advice when buying our 2009 Lexus, 85k miles and it had 200k miles worth of issues before getting it repaired. If I had bought an inspection, I would have been a lot better off. Lexus are great cars! Any car can have problems with lack of maintenance, that's exactly what happened to my car. Let my stupidity save you a headache. 🙏
I feel you’re pain
Pre-purchase inspection? Whats that?
Is that like payoff a mechanic to inspect it?
Thanks!
I love how in the end he says to check the steering wheel and brake paddle like those can't be replace in under 5 minutes.
What does this mean?
@@themrhtc8757 it means people can still cheat the system. I would only roll back the odometer if I upgraded the car with a new engine.
@@ewwwt a new engine doesn't mean a new transmission
@@prodrmx5007 yeah, maybe replace that as well....
@@prodrmx5007 I see so many obnoxious people on FB Market place saying their car has 30k miles and then you see its like 270k but the "engine" has been replaced. Yeah replacing one thing, even if it is a big conpoent doesn't make the car 30k miles. The whole car degrades not just one part over that time.
I bought a vehicle, I know it was rolled back. I discovered the original milage on an old oil change sticker, I found in the vehicle.
If the carfax isn’t jacked up just keep it to yourself. Car values based on mileage are stupid you can have a car with 50k that needs a new motor from abuse and a car with 300k that was pampered and had everything imaginable serviced.
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But the service history also being there should be used in that case to discern the condition of the car.
@@Un1234lim looking at a car that has 77,xxx on the dash, but in car fax it says 200,000 miles what do i do ?
@@jitwitdat1k895
Trust the carfax.
@@jitwitdat1k895 run away as far as you can. Don’t buy the car.
So basically get that machine for 300, get new brake pedals and a new steering wheel before fleecing someone, thanks for the info! smh... i think they just taught thousands of people how to do odometer fraud.
nah they already knew, just assume 20k a year and pay accordingly. buy by the year only.
The Jaguar would have needed all that work if it only had 50 miles on it.
It should be illegal to buy a device that can change it
All comes from China, the land of thievery, lies and cons. Add Taiwan, Burma, Indonesia, ect....
tool is used by body shops, lock them up right?
And you can do this on any new car
sometimes its necessary when the ecm is replaced and it is of the type that the ecm stores the mileage.
Old jags are notorious for headaches
Carfax is not free. They charge for both the carfax report and odometer check.
I’m a lady looking to buy a decent used car. Every single day I see a car that I strongly suspect has been rolled back. People flipping cars will routinely replace the brake pedals for newer ones to throw u off the scent of a scam. Never buy a used car without having it inspected by a good mechanic. PAY for this service. If the seller won’t let u take the car to a proper mechanic at a garage then pay a mechanic to examine the car at the seller’s place. If a seller doesn’t want a mechanic inspecting his car then leave - you just got a free answer as to if the car has real problems. This goes for small car lots AND dealerships, unfortunately.
I inspect cars and I see it all the time. My device lets me see the real miles on the car, engine and transmission.
@@wildestcowboy2668 what kind of device you use
@@Jasbirsingh-qz7fr My autel maxi is kinda my favorite however I have a snap on I fall back on from time to time. I've inspected many cars and give a buy back guarantee. If they get it past me I'll pay up.
@@wildestcowboy2668 but you can't use it on cars manufactured before 1996
@@themrhtc8757 Short answer is no however I have several weapons that and 30 years experience that allows me pre 97. I'm not perfect but I'm very accurate.
So after all that he says to identify odometer rollback 'check for wear' thanks pal 👍
Each state should move quickly and aggressively to enact much tougher penalties for odometer tampering. Would-be scammers will think twice if they know they're risking a MANDATORY 7-year MINIMUM prison sentence without parole plus a $50,000 fine. Write a letter to your state congress representative and DEMAND they take action on this growing problem.
So if your in an accident or your ecu is going bad and your milage suddenly starts jumping higher and higher but, you get it fixed and milage corrected to what it supposed to be would that by your statement carry a jail sentence? Secondly does the milage follow the body or the power train of the car???
Please. Laws don't stop criminals
I agree, but they won't even indict violent crime nowadays.
You're sentence is a fkn joke.
Prison doesn't fix anything. People go to prison and come out even worse than when they went in. 😂
Don't get the Carfax from the dealership, they can change the millage in their computer system so the one they show you may also be incorrect. Just pay for your own.
Pay for your own? How?
$5,000 for a 30 year old Jaguar is hardly a steal anyways tbh
That is why I laugh at used car dealers , that want thousands of dollars for cars that are over ten years old and are no longer in the used car price book . I just walk away and they look at me as why are you laughing ?
@@Jay-vr9ir Yeah, if I can't even sell the parts for anywhere near what they're asking I just roll my eyes. But you can't blame them! People practically beg to get ripped off I swear. Happily passing up a steal to buy a hunk of junk with a cool name
vintage cars, and well build, materials and more
There is many ways actually to find out if the oddmeter rollback... As they said the steering wheel... Driver seat..... The most important thing is the condition and how clean is the metrial of the engine and under the body... The exusust tube... Those things can tell how long this car been driving
cheers for showing the world how to do this & how to avoid the obvious like steering wheel deteriation or pedal wear . . . . Nice One
but if someone get like a used vehicle to fix up and resell then they might change the steering wheel and pedals to make it look better for higher resale as well so that really may not work as well
@@robertolson8524 do you know what sarca-you know what, nvm
@@tereewright771 😂
are you joking 😂 those can be replaced easily ahah
ok 👍 got the sarcasm a bit later
So there is in fact no way to truly know if a cars odometer has been changed unless the car had been serviced at repair shops and dealerships that report to these vehicle history companies like CarFax. Car makers need to address this issue one way or another
People should be punched in the face for tampering with the odometer!
unfortunately i was deceived on this odometer thing. when bought my first car a while ago.
10 year jail or confiscated would be nice to anyone who rolling back miles and anyone who takes own car to someone to roll back before sale or lease return. That's it. No excuse .
Absolutely! But unless everyday people like us call and email our state reps - it will never change.
Okay so I do actually remember a car where they were saying you can't go in and reprogram the odometer and people were saying you can't technically cheat it and what I've actually seen people do is they would go buy an entirely new ECM and body control module put that in the car and look now all of a sudden you actually have to go into the ECM and check and see if the VIN number actually matches the one of the door panel and sometimes it does not that's a telltale sign that maybe your dominant has been rolled back if the VIN number does not match or possibly it could have just been that they bought a new engine but that's rare
Even if the Jaguar has 42k on it new owner would still be repairing everything!
A little due diligence on the part of the buyer goes a long way.
If someone gave me a jaguar for free i wouldn't take it
They should put the link for the roll back tool in the description too
I could use it
Too easy, China of course.
On older cars its super easy to know if it's rolled, look at the numbers if they are not perfectly aligned, if you see the slightest variation, it'd rolled, no questions. These is absolutely ZERO possibility of any other reason, and I speak from 15+ years cutting my teeth in the dog world of the used cars as a sales manager.
Just bought an 88 ford ranger supposed to have 70k miles on it . The truck for the most part is in great condition and runs great the guy I bought it from was a younger guy and said only him and his grandpa owned it . Title says exempt just saw your comment and checked the odemeter they are not lined up perfectly . So is this a Forsure sign of someone trying g to hide the miles would you say? Thanks bro
How far back would say you is old ?
@@gunslinga7077
Absolutely, not even a question.
What about digital odometers
@@ehteshamkaunaine7417ye or digital odometers
There's also crooks that install switches on their car to turn off\on their ODO, especially if it is a lease (to avoid paying lease overage miles). It's harder to detect, because they'll have the ODO turned on only one week per month, so the mileage is still going up, but is much less than the real mileage. Carfax won't detect this either.
Yep i do this 👍
@@danielmcpherson298 lmfao
I would do that if i knew about it. Wow. I could of leased dream car
@@danielmcpherson298 how?
@@ETPitt magic ✨
What would be the correct odo to use for insurance and registration?
You can scan separately Abs module than you will pull the real milages.
how do you do that ?
I believe Mr. Scotty Kilmer says there a little port you can insert your obd scanner into and thats how you can tell. (I can't remember exactly if it was Mr. Kilmer or Chris from ChrisFixIt that said it...)
Dang, I recall Mr. Ogdon ...hello from Jacksonville. 👍
How to detect clocking when they do it before going in for any inspections/mot’s/service or whatever ? This is the real question they do it before it will get recorded every time
I wouldn’t have paid 200 dollars for that car
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Cheap Jags are absolutely everywhere. At some point you have to ask yourself why.
If something is “free” then you and your information are the product they are selling
The crime of car odometer roll back has been going on a long time. I was born in 1951 and even during my childhood growing up odometer roll back was going on in the cars with completely mechanical odometers. Also back then there were people who would disconnect the speedometer cable for a period of time to extend the car warranty out to its time limit, so that the mileage limit would not come first.
Problem in many states is the dmv applies EXEMPT for mileage on certain age vehicles. There's not much of a way ypu can find it
Why do u have a scanner for rolling back odometers lol I think they need to investigate you to
The scanner is used for many things, reading error codes and such is it's main purpose.
Bruh it’s an obd2 scanner they aren’t usually used to do illegal stuff they’re usually used by mechanics to see if anything isn’t running right in a car
And as said Before, When an ECM is replaced with a new one if its storing the mileage it needs to be set to the correct value. I just had it done on mine and we entered the accurate mileage, so the tool is not just for deception !!
Good indicator is checking out the interior seat condition, especially driver seat for wear and tear.
It's quite cheap to reupholster or replace the seats, same goes for steering wheel, shifter knob, and foot pedal rubber sleeves. Smart people also use mileage blockers, so even checking the station can't help you. If someone puts a bit of effort into making the car look low mileage there is no way to detect it, period
So where did u buy the bit of equipment again??
Cool so how can I reduce the number on my honda shadow?
What! You mean car dealers lie? No way
Christopher Tozer in Woodland Park, CO did this to me! He’s a mechanic who flips cars, jumped the title & lied his ass off
Thanks for telling us. I'm sure everyone are now going to be checking from here on out. I know I'll be dang sure I check mines!
Luckily, I bought my truck from an honest, normal man before all this mess started.
I bought a Chrysler 300c about 5 years back and the title said close to the odometer when I registered it in my state (a different state than it was purchased) the title they gave me said 40k miles over what it had an the dmv told me that was the last reported mileage 2 years ago
no wonder so many people swap jag engines with GM v8's
1.46 into the video and I still didn't know how odometers are rolled back
Me either.
Great info, Im ordering one now!
lol
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Sounds like CarFax marketing to me 💀
How about a mandatory 5 to)7 years in prison for this crime. Believe me anyone considering tampering with the odometer would think twice or perhaps thrice.
Its so easy to find a new looking steering wheel from a junkyard.
Those clusters they showed where early 2000s gm truck clusters. It is extremely common for those to mess up and need rebuild or replacement. I’ve redone mine twice in the 9 years I’ve had it. Often people will get one from a junkyard to replace it and that will show a different mileage. Is that fraud or repair? I rebuilt mine so it says the correct mileage but I wouldn’t call it fraud for someone to replace their gauge cluster with one that shows a different mileage. Some of those alleged 34k odometer frauds are BS. That jag is not a super rare or super expensive collector car to want to lie about mileage on a car that he sold for 5000.00 .I bet the speedo/odometer took a shit at xxx,xxx miles so the guy replaced it. If these are the serious problems Denver news reports I think I need to move there.
Na it isn't fraud to change your cluster. It's fraud to change it, have it reading less miles and sell it to someone.
You go get a car history report check. if the car has a log book, see if its consistent with the car's condition then make your own decision. Went to go check out a potential car and paid for a car history check. Paid nearly $40 and saved myself 1000's which had its odometer rolled back over 30,000km over 10 years ago. Walked away. My advice, no logbook no purchase. You don't know what the mileage is.
A car’s odometer can still be tampered with even with a “log book,” though. It’s helpful but myself I go with a thorough inspection that pays for itself big time - even if you don’t buy the car.
Like who or where?
Ps can you correction on a new motorcycle 🏍️ with a digital dash ?
If you're looking at a 30 year old car that's "sitting in a field" why would you even care enough to see what's on the odometer?
And a jaguar no less! Amazing anything ever works on it
The video is showing it can be done it doesn’t matter if it’s been sitting in a field or if it it’s trumps brain
Cryptonymicus 😂😂😂
Be nice.
@@yinkasantacruz6708 Lol! Ikr.
I checked the sticker on the windshield against the paperwork I was shown and on the title. What do I??
Without the odometer rollback, the Jaguar will still need to sit in the shop for a while.
I mean if it says mileage exempt what do you expect
It's an XJS. They were terrible when they had 42 miles on them. Let alone 142k miles on them. They were forever in the shop for service.
So does the milage follow the power train or the car body. If the power train is "new" there is no milage... So that make you ask the question does the milage follow the power train or the body of the car???
I’m scared I bought a used car a Honda accord 2011 coupe and it’s a clean title I got the pink slip and it has 117k miles but it says not actual mileage does that mean it for roled back ? Is there a way to tell the actual miles
You better hope you was not told a lie! Probably got scammed too and stole your $5,000 dollars for a junk car!
when a criminal asks you back for reassurance ''oh, it is illegal''? in his jargon it means something else, you silly.
You don't think a seller on craigslist would do such a thing do you?
You’re indicting CL but ANY site will have thieves selling cars - including “nice” dealerships.”
Michigan needs to crack down on this topic
Another way to find odometer tampering is to check the average miles the car has run per year and year the tyres are manufactured and calculate the miles. We can get a ballpark figure. A sedan runs about 30000 kilometres per year. Its a matter of simple maths.
We bought a car from copart, and the odometer had been rolled back .It was advertised as a 65k mile car, and my scanner showed way over 100k on it. Luckily, it wasn't a big money vehicle
AND where is the law that put thief in jail for this? It's clearly a fraud and should be punished to the fullest. Oh, I forgot politicians are driving brand new cars with taxpayers' money, so they don't even care.
Mate, you bought an early 90s Jag....
WHY IN THE WORLD THOSE DEVICES ARE ALLOWED TO BE FOR SALE!!!!
I paid my life saving for a van, that has a mileage of 129000 miles.
But the mileage reading is not real. The real mileage is close to 400k miles. That's a catastrophe! Now I'm stuck with a van that I can't use, because it's too old. My life has been ruined, and I need help! What can I do? Where should I go?
Thank you Randy!
I'm getting over it..... And next time I'm gonna buy my vehicles from a well known dealership in the neighborhood. Have a great weekend!
@@SG-qi5sr PLEASE friends! You must PAY actual money to a real mechanic to inspect before you buy any vehicle. Dealerships lie, cheat & scam, I promise you! This breaks my heart, but you were almost asking for this if you didn’t pay to have it inspected. It’s part of the cost of a used vehicle, unfortunately.
You got screwed man. Can't you make a police report?
That jag probably had a 5 digit odometer which means after it hits 99k you can’t tell if it’s under or over 100k miles without being the original owner or having a car fax in which that would not be fraud nor the guys fault who sold it to you
They stopped short of posting a link to the product
Wow they sell that device?
Thank you for telling me where to buy a rollback machine.
Thanks for the tip
checking the steering wheel and brake petal? that doesn't tell you anything!
You do realise that rubber cover of pedals are the easiest to be replaced with new ones. Steering wheel can do .
Look all over the car to gauge the wear and tear. Under the hood and under the car and inside interior .
just bought a 2012 fiesta metal. Only 33,000 miles but the gear shifter looks like it's done 200,000 miles lol. But that's the only thing on the interior that's worn. Hella wierd. 😕
It’s a 30 year old car and somebody convinced you it was only 42k? Smh
NEVER trust a car dealer or flipper/ "agent". Theyre always hiding something.
So in short check Carfax before buying and examine steering wheel and brake pedal for excessive wear.
Those checks are not nearly enough. Pay a qualified mechanic to inspect any used car. You have to build these inspections into the price of that used car. Otherwise you are just begging to be ripped off BIG time, unfortunately.
Yeah CarMax sold my girlfriend a car that clearly has near 200,000 mi on it even found out that the timing chain and gears were changed in it which is a great sign and it only has 60 on the odometer
Just bought a 2012 CRV with 133K and am trying to figure if it has original miles. I may take it to an expert.
Buy from a reputable dealer.... if your seller is a “mechanic” and he’s fixed up the car... chances are he has done this!!! Or take it to the makes dealership for inspection... do not give into high pressure sales... they are trying to use their ‘good deal’ as a psych tactic
😂😂😂 dealership is the main ones be rolling back odometers
sooo… how should we spot if a car’s odometer is rollbacked?
come in really handy now they want to do the vmt tax
Rest of the car condition inside can easily tell you about the mileage. Door step seats side dashboard everything easily telling the extreme usage of car
I tend to my vehicles really well, that for example, my 230,000 mile Dakota's interior, exterior, and mechanical condition can easily pass for about 80,000 miles, and being a small slender guy who is easy on vehicles, can attest.
I discovered mine was rollback by the dealer! How i discover...was sold as demo in a conversation before asked the sale rep since when was driving...bought the car and after few miles many things to change find it weird then discover a credit car statement with his home details did the math and the car had 10x more! No wonder had to do all that job!
This is just an ad for carfax
I will see a scam when the car has no maintenance history book, the VIN can't be tracked by the dealership and if there was no database that tracks the vehicles' mileage.
My uncle got a very nice 2007 Toyota Tundra silver with 4 doors for $17,000 with "127k miles" when we ran carfax we found out it actually had over 238k miles! He told the previous owner about this and he just said its because he replaced the engine but idk if thats true but my uncle doesnt care.
Thank you i seen a cargo van 2004 18,000 miles and its 2020 now
I just saw a 2002 Sentra with “18,000” miles. It’s possible, but me - I won’t even go look at these anymore.
Who would’ve thought the news would teach people how to be crooks
There’s always a convenient place crooks can learn to be crooks. A news report that helps consumers from having thousands of dollars stolen from them...don’t be naive. And don’t leave silly comments. This thread probably has 10 comments, left by adolescents, saying the same thing. Boring.
Its called, DANGEROUS Freedom for a reason baby!
2008 car and has 45,000 odometer? hmmmmmmm
Holy cow!