Sounds about right. And tons of people are interested in seeing the 9th gen's results but nobody can say for certain until at least halfway and most certainly near the end of it.
@@GoinGreninja I'd say that MS already started to trip for this generation. The PlayStation 5 already has everything that the Xbox Series X and it has the bonus of exclusives. If you have a powerful PC then getting a Series X is pointless because you would just be buying a 500 dollar downgrade, and you would also need to pay to play online games too. As for Nintendo they've been kicking ass since launch of the Switch in terms of sales and critical acclaim.
@@RegalPixelKing I'm still not so sure. Seeing, that Sony had abandoned the japanese market. If the japanese devs abandon the PS5 in return and jumpt to Xbox, then it won't be as clearcut.
@@stevenn1940 Unfortunately it's a rotten egg. I don't know how it plays as a tv connected console, maybe in that version it is better, I don't know, I don't use that feature, but as a handheld it feels like a downgrade.
Yep. I once heard it said that it doesn't matter whether Sony or Microsoft win the Console War. Either way, Nintendo will be ready and waiting to take 2nd place.
Im imagining Sony and Microsoft frantically building hardware and glancing over at each other. Meanwhile, Nintendo stomps past with that giant robot LABO making laser noises.
They make a console that is different. Nintendo varies back and forth from awesome idea sold well to interesting idea sold poorly. Virtualboy was awful. N64 both made 3d gaming and one of the most hated controllers but showed how to make a 3d controller.
The difficulty of getting a PS5 and XBox Series X reminds me of how hard it was to get a Wii around launch. Got mine in January 2007. Let's hope more get in stock soon.
I think Nintendo figured out the best business practice for them currently, releasing a console mid-generation so they don't have to compete with Sony or Xbox releases
I mean, I was a Sega kid (my first console was a Saturn), but I don't think the Mega Drive/Genesis won the fourth generation, Super NES sold more and had a much stronger library...
@@JaelinBezel and Chrono Trigger, Link to the Past, Earthbound, StarFox, Super Mario World, Yoshi’s Island, Super Castlevania IV. The SNES had the best exclusive library of games ever, IMO.
Yeah I was wondering what the Hell he was thinking when he declared them the winner. How does Sega claim 65% of the market when they only sold about 30 million units to SNES's 49 million units?
I think he was counting it through market share, as Sega took a titanic bite out of the market share. They may have lost the war but they won the battle.
I feel like the Switch belongs to the ninth generation, giving Nintendo a head start again like when they launched the DS in 2004 to unofficially start the seventh generation.
The Switch defenetly belongs rather into the 8th gen. Performance wise its more comparable to the PS4 and Xbox One. Also the PS5 and Xbox Series X introduced 4k console gaming, wich kinda seperates them. As well it seems that nintendo will release a new console or new version of the switch in 2023 capable to play in 4k.
Really liked this, it was nice being reminded of just how insane the first few console generations were in that there was so many parties competing against each other. Today, it's really only three and Stadia dying in the corner.
I’m 40 and I was in elementary school during the SNES/Genesis battle. There were no Internet forums to argue on but I do recall arguing over Sonic vs Mario but I remember so many kids gushing over the Sega Mortal Kombat and having blood.
I consider the switch a 9th gen system, it just came along really early. TBF the wii u released a year earlier than the ps4 and xbone so it's them who overstayed their welcome.
I closed the video as soon as he said "Genesis wins the Fourth Generation." I grew up with both a SNES and Genesis, and if you look at both consoles and both companies throughout the Fourth Generation, Nintendo was going steady and strong. Sega started strong, but the flame burnt too hot too quick. Tom Kalinske and Joe Miller were geniuses and legends, but Sega of Japan was the boss at the end of the day, and SoJ's leadership and decisions were law compared to Kalinske's and Miller's intelligence. The SNES wasn't less powerful than the Genesis, the SNES not only displayed more color palettes, but it also ran smoother consistently. Sega configured the Genesis to temporarily overclock itself for a burst of speed, but it wasn't true power, it just ran a little faster for a little while. Sega made the Genesis obsolete quickly with the Sega CD and 32x add-ons (despite the fact that the Sega Saturn, Sega's 5th Generation console which was a 32bit console, was in development) while Nintendo was still riding high with just the SNES. Sega's main gaming library was just ports of arcade games you could go play at the arcade, Sonic, and just a few more Genesis exclusives. Everything on the SNES was new, original, and fresh. Some franchises got "sequels" or continuations, but games like Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, and Super Metroid were huge innovations in their franchises like Breath of the Wild is for Zelda. I also feel like I should point out the fact that during the 1993 Congressional Hearings on Video Games, while it was dirty of Nintendo to throw Sega under the bus, Sega's representatives didn't have any defense planned and regularly stuttered, froze, and said incorrect things during the hearing. Howard Lincoln of Nintendo was fully prepared, while Sega wasn't in the slightest. The Genesis is a fantastic console, I always look back at it in admiration, nostalgia, and respect, but between the Genesis and the SNES, Sega temporarily overtook Nintendo, and that coupled with their fast-growing success went to Sega of Japan's head, and they got too comfortable. The difference between the Master System and the Genesis is a vast improvement, but with the difference between the NES and the SNES, Nintendo truly evolved as a games manufacturing company. One thing that a lot of people still to this day don't realize is that the SNES or the Genesis never completely blew the other out of the water, it was a neck-and-neck war throughout the generation. Sega did great in the beginning, but the flame burned too hot too fast. Nintendo consistently performed positively and ultimately outperformed the Genesis when Sega began floundering. The SNES clearly beat the Genesis.
On the PS5 and XSX part, nobody can say for sure this early. A generation usually lasts 6 years and we aren't even halfway to make some sort of conclusion and we certainly can't make a full judgement until the generation is almost over. I'll place bets on the PS5 right now because I prefer PlayStation over Xbox but I'll also admit that Xboxes are no slouch either but they just need to up the exclusives game a bit.
@@GoinGreninja yeah i think they can definitely because a lot of them have proven that theyre really good at what they do like inxile, obsidian, ninja theory and bethesda for the most part, but im optomistic for xbox but i dont think we'll really start seeing the fruits of their labour until next year or so
@@nubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbin True. Bethesda is a mixed bag but having the power of Obsidian games and Ninja Theory and especially ID Studios, they may get some good games yet. But it'll take them a while though.
This was a great summarization about the console wars, if you are curious (and know Spanish) the youtuber DayoSript has been making a series on the history of the video game consoles from the start. It's a big lengthy (since he covers Europe, the US, Japan, etc. separately) but a good compliment to this video. Best wishes and I hope you get more traction from this kind of videos.
What's more, you could drop the first Xbox on someone, and not only would it kill em, but when you cleaned the viscera off it still ran. Another failure of the Dreamcast was that the games could be copied with a simple CD drive in a computer.
6:19 as someone who *was* alive during the first few generations, I can tell you there really wasn't anything like "console wars" then! Video games were simply seen as children's toys, like hula hoops or barbie dolls.. novelty items. Having an allegiance to one over the other would have seemed weird. In fact, you kinda HOPED your neighbors had something different, so you could have a unique experience
I find it amazing you were able to cover all of the generations in under 20 minutes! But where were you? I miss your face. In a not creepy kind of way. Hope you're well.
Winners: 1st generation: Atari Home Pong 2nd generation: Atari 2600 3rd generation: Nintendo Entertainment System 4th generation: Sega Genesis 5th generation: PlayStation 6th generation: PlatStation 2 7th generation: Nintendo Wii 8th generation: Nintendo Switch
Maybe the winner of the 9th gen console war will be the supposed kfc console, which will supposedly be able to keep chicken warm from the excess heat of the parts. Who knows?
To say that Sega won Fourth Generation is silly. i mean i love the Genesis. I love what Sega stood for at that time. I love that they were the troublemakers taking on the big boys. They were basically what Nickelodeon was to Disney. But in reality, Sega wasnt even close to winning that generation or any generation... Although they put up a HELLUVA fight.
Part of the deal with a Magnavox Odyssey, even though it was a superior system at the time, was most people thought it only worked with Magnavox TVs. It kind of reminds me of the Wii u debacle, that it wasn't advertised well enough to know what it actually was. It was a universal console not just one specifically for Magnavox
I feel the PS4 100% won the 8th generation. Not only did Nintendo have a HUGE failure on their record for the gen, but the Switch only did so well because it came halfway through the generation with no other competitors. If it released back when the PS4 and Xbone came out, it would've struggled a lot. Nowhere near as bad as the Wii U, but also nowhere near the success it has now. Ignoring their failure and lack of competition for their retry to give them the win while Sony had yet another 100,000,000 unit selling console on their hands first try with no problems doesn't seem quite fair and honestly even feels a little biased. Not to mention that even if we combined the Wii U's and Switch's sales, PS4 still wins out by over 30 million.
Personally I don't really consider the Switch to really be 8th gen, despite the other 9th gen consoles coming out 3 years later. Nintendo weren't really competing with Sony and Microsoft at the time and still aren't.
While I think you're right that the Switch probably wouldn't have done quite as well if it had launched in 2014 with the ps4/xbox one, I still think you're underselling the Switch. It had one of the best launches in video game history (though I do believe the ps5 is currently outperforming in that metric) and has met similar sales figures to the early years to the ps2 meaning we could see it sell above 100k units by the end of its life. It also still sold really well this year despite the release of the ps5 and xbox series x.
If Switch was 8th gen, it won, otherwise PS4 won that gen. But the reason I think Switch is 9th gen is for the same reason Dreamcast is the same generation as the Gamecube, OG Xbox, and PS2.
2 years later and the Switch caught up, but I think it won 100% because of game sales (as of 24th of October, there are 7 Switch games that sold more copies than the PS4's most sold game, not to mention SM Party being 100k away and ToTK's value being outdated by months and a single million away)
@@Authorandgamer it’s basically a huge meme were the tapper soulja boy released ”his own” gaming console. Only thing was that this console was a bootleg of some old console from like the 80s or something
Okay, of all games I might have expected to see here, Body Harvest (10:25)for the N64 was not one on mind. I put so many hours in to that game back in the day, and hardly anybody in my friend group knew it existed. Granted, these were the same people who tried to dissuade me from playing Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem because it was, I quote, 'an old game'.
The Switch is the start of the 9th generation, not part of the 8th. It was a completely new animal and honestly deserves the title of generation-starter.
@@VegasD702 Except, y'know, being portable. It was and still is like no other console out there. It started and effectively won the ninth generation console war before the others even got out of the gate.
"The XBOX360 wasn't without it's problems though". What, you mean the nearly 50% failure rate from the RRoD that cost Microsoft over $1 Billion? That little problem?
The second generation war was almost as cut-throat as the fourth. Have a look at how the Intellivision advertising took aim at the 2600. And the Colecovision did a great job at showing how much better they were than both.
I would personally say that the Nintendo Switch belongs to the Ninth Generation rather than the Eighth Gemeration, since it was released in 2017, so I would give the edge to the Nintendo Switch so far
Switch is ninth gen. While it was cut kinda short, the Wii U went from 2012 to 2017. Which is pretty much on par with the GameCube and the N64. It's next gen, both in capability and release. The PS4 and Xbox One came out a year later, and lingered on longer.
@@bambangamer1271 I never said it was. Even though it is lacking in power, it's easily a step above the Wii U. Making it a next gen version. At least, in the most basic definition of next gen.
The Game and Watch wasn't a console, and even if counted, Mattel's handhelds came out first.The Microvision was the first portable console. The Dreamcast was the most successful console launch ever, when it released in North America. It's failure has a lot to do with Sega pissing off the Japanese market and general piracy - they just didn't have the massive amount of money they needed to keep competing. Especially since they didn't make their own chips. Otherwise, not bad. For someone who wasn't alive for a lot of it, you got more things right than most RUclips console war analysis.
the game and watch was a machine that you could play videos on with a screen and 3 buttons, i would say the game&watch fits the criteria for a 2nd generation console, aside from that, it was no different from a toy with pre made models instead of coded and moving ones
I consider the Switch to be sort of a generation 8.5/ beta generation 9 console. It technically is just the Wii U with all of the ideas done right, but, it also feels like it's something brand new at the same time, and I think it will continue to do well competing against the PS5 and the Xbox Series X/Series S. The only real new thing Nintendo could claim as a 9th generation console would be a Switch Pro, being an improved version of the Switch, as opposed to a completely new console
The Dreamcast not being successful was a tragic story, because it was so good. I remember when it came out, the general reaction was "it seems cool, but I'm waiting for the PS2". Sega bombing with the Saturn during the 5th generation made the Dreamcast dead on arrival.
It seriously surprises me that Microsoft hasn't ever truely won a console generation in terms of sales. You would think with the basically limitless money they have, they could produce a cutting edge console and produce more quality first party games. Not saying that all the Xboxes have been bad, far from it. It's just interesting that companies with less resources like Nintendo and Sony have found ways to keep Microsoft at bay.
Microsoft may have enormous resources, but they also have to spend those resources on many other things as well. So the available budget for gaming products isn't that much different from Sony's and Nintendo's.
I have said this before. I had PS1, PS2, and missed out until the PS5 at launch. I bought a backwards compatible PS3 to play some classic games I missed. Xbox never won a console generation. Their strongest console was the 360, and the red ring of death coupled with just a few banger exclusives, Sony may have had a late start which caused devs to not prioritize their system, but So y kept pushing and pushing quality exclusives until they sold more consoles than the 360. In the end, the 360 fell 3rd place after the PS3 and Wii. While this video says the Wii won, did it really?
Console generations aren't defined solely by when a console released but rather by their entire lifespans, and no way Nintendo's risking putting out a new console any time soon. Expect the Switch to last another five years.
Not only was I born on the day the PS2 released, but I've also never owned a PlayStation console and this video on top of my consistent failures to secure a PS5 makes me a little ashamed
You left out the other half of why PS4 absolutely dominated over XB1 (and I say this as an XB1 owner so like, no bias). One half was the stupid, stupid issues Microsoft burdened their fanbase with needlessly and that whole mess you describe. But the other was definitely the exclusives. Comparatively, PS4 had exclusives spilling out of its ears while XB1 had basically close to none. Same thing happened with PS2 really. That one won out largely due to the sheer catalogue at its disposal. I had one, and a Dreamcast, and eventually a Gamecube too, and I loved them each for different reasons (crazy thinking back now how I actually managed to have several consoles in the space of one generation). Worth mentioning that the Gamecube was also a fairly late (and thus bit more advance) entry than the PS2 and Dreamcast. My favourite's actually strongly the Dreamcast. But there's no denying PS2 had the edge in game availability by a gigantic margin. Still a bit pissed off at game series that went console-exclusive part-way through their lineup, btw. What the hell, Street Fighter 5! I wanted to play you. Console exclusivity (between essentially-similar systems) is really kinda terrible. But you can tell why they do it. It's demonstrably profitable. It's a shame really. I do feel like sometimes it's done as a bit of a needless boast, like when you're already dominating, Sony. (grr) Like... at that point did exclusivity really do anything for them? Nobody's buying the other console over halfway into the generation just to have a particular game. All you're doing is wasting cash on denying gamers games. Bit rubbish. But rant over, lol. I originally switched over from PS2 to XB360 simply because XB360 came out a lot earlier than PS3 and I wanted the shiny new things now damnit. With XB1 I got it as a lovely present, the choice probably being based on already having a 360. And I adore the thing and it's what I play right now. But even despite the early u-turns it still retained some leftover problems from that design philosophy, it has to be said. Worst for me being a NON-OPTIONAL cloud save feature that far from providing backup, actually wiped my save files for a couple of games. Not the only example of Microsoft stubbornly insisting they know better than their own users and their own users paying for it when it turns out they don't. You'd think they'd learn that lesson by now. However XB1 is still my system and I still love playing games on it and that's the basic thing isn't it? Started with a Dragon 32 which I guess is in 2nd gen. It went off an audio tape storage device, so it has to be pretty early on. One of the more obscure ones, lol. After that the Master System made me a Sega kid and of course it was followed by the Mega Drive. Following that, had a PS1 and after that a PS2 and the circle is complete up to the current day. I honestly can't see myself getting an XBX (I think it's called?) or a PS5. What the hell were they thinking releasing these things in 2020? I don't care how long a generation has been, who on earth's got the money for new consoles right now? I don't see this generation doing very well, at least not unless Nintendo or someone else throws another mid-gen contender into the mix (or unless the Switch counts, which... yeah, it could). Plus there's the thing that with each new gen, the difference in capability is a hell of a lot less evident or necessary in most game types than the difference between the last couple was. I think 9th gen has basically reached the take-it-or-leave-it point. Neither of those feels like something I need, y'know? When I was playing my PS1 I was salivating for what the PS2 would be capable of (resulting in what I still think was perhaps the most brass-necked bait-and-switch in video game history, WWE Smackdown JBI's game attract video). Now playing my XB1 I'm honestly just fine where I am. The only games I can see now genuinely needing greater console capabilities are ones with massive data processing at their core, like world simulators or construction/management games and the like. Whereas your more traditional dominant genres such as racing, beat-'em-up, platformer, open world, set-piece adventure, puzzle, and all those sorts... they kind have everything they need. All they get out of greater capabilities by now are hardly-noticeable minor prettiness tweaks. Perhaps there's an online side I'm not seeing since I'm honestly just not an online kind of gamer. But for the vast majority of your core standard single player experiences at least, I just don't see the need for new tech. In fact, games might actually benefit from a bit more of a limited pallette nowadays. The retro explosion has kinda shown us that with such inventive stuff. It's like the old days except you get to pick and choose which limits to impose rather than being stuck with the ones that are possible. It's pretty great in that way, but it does take an artist who actually recognises it at a positive, which... isn't most of the big budget side of it yet.
It sucks that the Gamecube didn't catch on as well as it should. Those little discs had low loading times and were damn near indestructible. Now every game I play has to load for about five good minutes per area before I can play it.
In terms of each gen my personal favorites Genesis PS1 PS2 PS3 PS4 Overall my favorite platform is PC. Gamecube was gold too but ps2 was the best console so far.
He gave them the win, not because they sold more, but because it was impressive that they were able to push that far into the market, which Nintendo had had a stranglehold on for the whole previous Gen.
This was a good video but constructive criticism: I wasn’t a fan of the buzzing alarm sound that went on for 3 minutes at intervals of 20 seconds representing Pong while you were talking 😬 Maybe would’ve not had that background noise running through that segment
It didn't help that the PS2 was cheap DVD player when DVDs were starting to become a thing alongside being a game console. I also consider the Switch a 9th gen console.
Other than the various computers, the consoles I had were Atari that my parents had. My first system I actually ever got was the Sega Genesis, then the Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Wii, PlayStation one with the screen attached to it, PS2, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Switch. The PlayStations and Xboxes I've got while there were working on the their following generations. And not counting the handheld systems
SNES won the war over here. Sega Genesis came out first and took attention away from the NES. Then the SNES came in and stole the market back. GameBoy added to the domination while Sega went on to ruin the Genesis with add-ons. The strong exclusives for Nintendo shined during this generation.
My theory has always been that the WiiU was released because the other two were launching a new console and Nintendo still had a few years before the switch was ready so they released an upgraded wii with a prototype the switch tablet.
Long story short NES SNES PS1 PS2 Wii PS4 Switch (I technically count Switch as the PS5/Series X competitor since it released closer to them than the PS4/Xbone, and the Wii U was the system of their generation)
What determines the beginning and end of a console generation? I feel like the ps4 slim/pro, the Xbox one s/x, and the Nintendo switch are a separate micro console generation tbh.
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Moral of the story: every console generation has a winner, a loser, and someone who tripped over their own feet.
Sounds about right. And tons of people are interested in seeing the 9th gen's results but nobody can say for certain until at least halfway and most certainly near the end of it.
@@GoinGreninja I'd say that MS already started to trip for this generation. The PlayStation 5 already has everything that the Xbox Series X and it has the bonus of exclusives. If you have a powerful PC then getting a Series X is pointless because you would just be buying a 500 dollar downgrade, and you would also need to pay to play online games too. As for Nintendo they've been kicking ass since launch of the Switch in terms of sales and critical acclaim.
that is very, very accurate
PS3 was awsome, but too expensive for most casual gamers to buy.
@@RegalPixelKing I'm still not so sure. Seeing, that Sony had abandoned the japanese market. If the japanese devs abandon the PS5 in return and jumpt to Xbox, then it won't be as clearcut.
Sony: my dogs big
Microsoft: my dogs fast
Nintendo: I have a platypus.
Hey, the platypus has laid a golden egg with the switch.
Microsoft actually is the one with the big consoles historically.
@@stevenn1940 Unfortunately it's a rotten egg. I don't know how it plays as a tv connected console, maybe in that version it is better, I don't know, I don't use that feature, but as a handheld it feels like a downgrade.
@@Monsuco hahahahahaha.
@@Grey_Warden_Invasion you just put it into the port thats it
I like how Sony and Microsoft are always directly competing while Nintendo’s off in the corner doing their own fun thing.
I think it's just more their style. They know how to make money even without power like the Playstation and Xbox have
@@CrazeeAdam Indeed! They don’t really follow trends, they seem to prefer just trying new things. Throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Yep. I once heard it said that it doesn't matter whether Sony or Microsoft win the Console War. Either way, Nintendo will be ready and waiting to take 2nd place.
Im imagining Sony and Microsoft frantically building hardware and glancing over at each other. Meanwhile, Nintendo stomps past with that giant robot LABO making laser noises.
They make a console that is different. Nintendo varies back and forth from awesome idea sold well to interesting idea sold poorly. Virtualboy was awful. N64 both made 3d gaming and one of the most hated controllers but showed how to make a 3d controller.
“It feels like Nintendo deliberately intended for this console to appeal to a more casual audience”
This just in: water wet
Water isn't wet tho
I always find people using this saying funny because water isn't wet
@@GameGod77 water is wet fight me
@@aaronjones6299 refer to my first comment
@@gonkdroidincarnate4237 actually it isn’t. Water is only wet when it touches another thing, if it’s alone then it ain’t wet. Chemistry.
I feel like this list doesn’t make any sense, imo.
How did the *Nokia N-Gage* not win best console of the 6th generation?
Every time I hear the "slap" sound effect now, I feel like somewhere, Scott Wozniak is slapping his knee and doesn't know why. :P
Likely making another E3 Press Conference video of sorts...
A lack of “this has been RabbidLuigi” brings me sadness
7th Gen: Microsoft and Sony trip over themselves out of the gates, and Nintendo laughs.
The difficulty of getting a PS5 and XBox Series X reminds me of how hard it was to get a Wii around launch. Got mine in January 2007. Let's hope more get in stock soon.
Last time I was this early the Wii U had hype
Just say that you've never been this early, man.
@@jacobskarda pretty sure I've been earlier than this before, so I'd be lying if I said that
@@p_ensemble18 I'm just trying to make a jab about the lack of hype for the Wii U
Wii u was fine, but casuals did not support it.
@@jacobskarda oh my bad ahaha. Yeah that's true I could've said that
Wasn’t expecting something like this, I like these gaming history pieces.
I think Nintendo figured out the best business practice for them currently, releasing a console mid-generation so they don't have to compete with Sony or Xbox releases
I like how the introduction to each generation went from beep noises to full blown orchestra music lol :P Man times change
I love how this was released the same day has Matpat's video about how KFC won the console wars. Lol
I mean, I was a Sega kid (my first console was a Saturn), but I don't think the Mega Drive/Genesis won the fourth generation, Super NES sold more and had a much stronger library...
It had Super Metroid and Final Fantasy 6!
@@JaelinBezel and Chrono Trigger, Link to the Past, Earthbound, StarFox, Super Mario World, Yoshi’s Island, Super Castlevania IV. The SNES had the best exclusive library of games ever, IMO.
The genesis didn't even make it where I live, unlike the snes.
Yeah I was wondering what the Hell he was thinking when he declared them the winner. How does Sega claim 65% of the market when they only sold about 30 million units to SNES's 49 million units?
I think he was counting it through market share, as Sega took a titanic bite out of the market share. They may have lost the war but they won the battle.
Like the background music that u chose for the part about the 1st gen
Surprised the 3rd generation section wasn't just "yeah it was the NES moving on"
I feel like the Switch belongs to the ninth generation, giving Nintendo a head start again like when they launched the DS in 2004 to unofficially start the seventh generation.
It's hard to say. I can see both sides.
The Switch defenetly belongs rather into the 8th gen. Performance wise its more comparable to the PS4 and Xbox One. Also the PS5 and Xbox Series X introduced 4k console gaming, wich kinda seperates them. As well it seems that nintendo will release a new console or new version of the switch in 2023 capable to play in 4k.
switch's hardware just isn't comparable enough to the 9th gen
The switch Oled belongs to the 9th generation.
@@Chr1s808 how? It offers no increase in processing power
Ah yes, Bill Microsoft. Up there with Nintendo Miyamoto and Masahiro HAL Laboratories
lol
Don't forget Ken Gamefreak (Ken Sugimori, the guy who created Pokemon and the Gamefreak company)
Really liked this, it was nice being reminded of just how insane the first few console generations were in that there was so many parties competing against each other. Today, it's really only three and Stadia dying in the corner.
This is a nice change of pace. I hope that we'll see more video essays in the future.
Basically Nintendo, Sega and Sony were the major winners of the console wars and everyone else ranged from “good” to “wait that was a thing?”
Basically, yeah.
Really just Nintendo and Sony. Sega only had one good generation, and even then it's debatable whether they actually won.
Sega never won a gen, they came close in the 4th gen but no cigar. Overall only sony and nintendo won generations.
I feel like people will end up lumping the switch into the eighth generation, and the switch pro into the ninth generation.
I’m 40 and I was in elementary school during the SNES/Genesis battle. There were no Internet forums to argue on but I do recall arguing over Sonic vs Mario but I remember so many kids gushing over the Sega Mortal Kombat and having blood.
I was one of those kids who was a proud owner of MK on Genesis. Those school yard debates were awesome. Surprised more fights didn't come from them.
Awesome video. But man, you can't talk about the PS2's success without mentioning the DVD compatibility. That played a huge part
It's the reason I got a PS2 over a GameCube (although I later traded in my PS2 for a GameCube when DVD players got cheaper).
7:17 I need this sound bite in my life
I love this song! :D
I consider the switch a 9th gen system, it just came along really early. TBF the wii u released a year earlier than the ps4 and xbone so it's them who overstayed their welcome.
That intro is glorious.
rl putting the genesis over the snes is a bold move
I closed the video as soon as he said "Genesis wins the Fourth Generation."
I grew up with both a SNES and Genesis, and if you look at both consoles and both companies throughout the Fourth Generation, Nintendo was going steady and strong. Sega started strong, but the flame burnt too hot too quick.
Tom Kalinske and Joe Miller were geniuses and legends, but Sega of Japan was the boss at the end of the day, and SoJ's leadership and decisions were law compared to Kalinske's and Miller's intelligence.
The SNES wasn't less powerful than the Genesis, the SNES not only displayed more color palettes, but it also ran smoother consistently. Sega configured the Genesis to temporarily overclock itself for a burst of speed, but it wasn't true power, it just ran a little faster for a little while.
Sega made the Genesis obsolete quickly with the Sega CD and 32x add-ons (despite the fact that the Sega Saturn, Sega's 5th Generation console which was a 32bit console, was in development) while Nintendo was still riding high with just the SNES. Sega's main gaming library was just ports of arcade games you could go play at the arcade, Sonic, and just a few more Genesis exclusives.
Everything on the SNES was new, original, and fresh. Some franchises got "sequels" or continuations, but games like Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, and Super Metroid were huge innovations in their franchises like Breath of the Wild is for Zelda.
I also feel like I should point out the fact that during the 1993 Congressional Hearings on Video Games, while it was dirty of Nintendo to throw Sega under the bus, Sega's representatives didn't have any defense planned and regularly stuttered, froze, and said incorrect things during the hearing. Howard Lincoln of Nintendo was fully prepared, while Sega wasn't in the slightest.
The Genesis is a fantastic console, I always look back at it in admiration, nostalgia, and respect, but between the Genesis and the SNES, Sega temporarily overtook Nintendo, and that coupled with their fast-growing success went to Sega of Japan's head, and they got too comfortable.
The difference between the Master System and the Genesis is a vast improvement, but with the difference between the NES and the SNES, Nintendo truly evolved as a games manufacturing company.
One thing that a lot of people still to this day don't realize is that the SNES or the Genesis never completely blew the other out of the water, it was a neck-and-neck war throughout the generation.
Sega did great in the beginning, but the flame burned too hot too fast.
Nintendo consistently performed positively and ultimately outperformed the Genesis when Sega began floundering.
The SNES clearly beat the Genesis.
Yeah. I was confused, the snes sold nearly twice the amount of genesis consoles, and most genesis games were just unremarkable and forgettable
2:15 the answer is General Instruments. They made the AY-3-8500 “Pong On A Chip” used in the vast, vast majority of 70s Pong systems.
On the PS5 and XSX part, nobody can say for sure this early. A generation usually lasts 6 years and we aren't even halfway to make some sort of conclusion and we certainly can't make a full judgement until the generation is almost over. I'll place bets on the PS5 right now because I prefer PlayStation over Xbox but I'll also admit that Xboxes are no slouch either but they just need to up the exclusives game a bit.
i think they will since they got a lot of studios etc since 2018 i dont think we'll really start seeing those games out until next year though
@@nubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbin Let's see if the new companies that Microsoft has aquired creates good enough games to attract some customer base.
@@GoinGreninja yeah i think they can definitely because a lot of them have proven that theyre really good at what they do like inxile, obsidian, ninja theory and bethesda for the most part, but im optomistic for xbox but i dont think we'll really start seeing the fruits of their labour until next year or so
@@nubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbin True. Bethesda is a mixed bag but having the power of Obsidian games and Ninja Theory and especially ID Studios, they may get some good games yet. But it'll take them a while though.
Idk. People are starting to swarm to Xbox now because Xbox Game Pass is a thing
This was a great summarization about the console wars, if you are curious (and know Spanish) the youtuber DayoSript has been making a series on the history of the video game consoles from the start. It's a big lengthy (since he covers Europe, the US, Japan, etc. separately) but a good compliment to this video. Best wishes and I hope you get more traction from this kind of videos.
We all know the two best consoles were the Wii U and the Virtual Boy.
Virtual boy Kekw, thats a good one
NO!!!1!1 the OUYA is clearly the absolute best console of all time
XD
Virtual boy GOAT
They don't have anything on the OUYA and Stadia.
I've enjoyed almost all of your videos so far, but damn I feel like its one of my top favs, so much so that I just HAD to comment on it!!!
13:15 It's like you never heard of Nintendo's Blue Ocean Marketing Strategy.
What's more, you could drop the first Xbox on someone, and not only would it kill em, but when you cleaned the viscera off it still ran.
Another failure of the Dreamcast was that the games could be copied with a simple CD drive in a computer.
I feel like the Switch would fit more in the ninth generation but your logic makes a lot of sense
6:19 as someone who *was* alive during the first few generations, I can tell you there really wasn't anything like "console wars" then!
Video games were simply seen as children's toys, like hula hoops or barbie dolls.. novelty items. Having an allegiance to one over the other would have seemed weird. In fact, you kinda HOPED your neighbors had something different, so you could have a unique experience
I find it amazing you were able to cover all of the generations in under 20 minutes! But where were you? I miss your face. In a not creepy kind of way. Hope you're well.
Winners:
1st generation: Atari Home Pong
2nd generation: Atari 2600
3rd generation: Nintendo Entertainment System
4th generation: Sega Genesis
5th generation: PlayStation
6th generation: PlatStation 2
7th generation: Nintendo Wii
8th generation: Nintendo Switch
Maybe the winner of the 9th gen console war will be the supposed kfc console, which will supposedly be able to keep chicken warm from the excess heat of the parts. Who knows?
To say that Sega won Fourth Generation is silly. i mean i love the Genesis. I love what Sega stood for at that time. I love that they were the troublemakers taking on the big boys. They were basically what Nickelodeon was to Disney. But in reality, Sega wasnt even close to winning that generation or any generation... Although they put up a HELLUVA fight.
You forgot the KFC console for gen9! Gametheory seems to think it's the clear winner lol
Part of the deal with a Magnavox Odyssey, even though it was a superior system at the time, was most people thought it only worked with Magnavox TVs. It kind of reminds me of the Wii u debacle, that it wasn't advertised well enough to know what it actually was. It was a universal console not just one specifically for Magnavox
I feel the PS4 100% won the 8th generation.
Not only did Nintendo have a HUGE failure on their record for the gen, but the Switch only did so well because it came halfway through the generation with no other competitors. If it released back when the PS4 and Xbone came out, it would've struggled a lot. Nowhere near as bad as the Wii U, but also nowhere near the success it has now. Ignoring their failure and lack of competition for their retry to give them the win while Sony had yet another 100,000,000 unit selling console on their hands first try with no problems doesn't seem quite fair and honestly even feels a little biased. Not to mention that even if we combined the Wii U's and Switch's sales, PS4 still wins out by over 30 million.
I think the Switch`s success is heavily due to it being portable since it was mostly a Wii u port machine to start with.
Personally I don't really consider the Switch to really be 8th gen, despite the other 9th gen consoles coming out 3 years later. Nintendo weren't really competing with Sony and Microsoft at the time and still aren't.
While I think you're right that the Switch probably wouldn't have done quite as well if it had launched in 2014 with the ps4/xbox one, I still think you're underselling the Switch. It had one of the best launches in video game history (though I do believe the ps5 is currently outperforming in that metric) and has met similar sales figures to the early years to the ps2 meaning we could see it sell above 100k units by the end of its life. It also still sold really well this year despite the release of the ps5 and xbox series x.
If Switch was 8th gen, it won, otherwise PS4 won that gen. But the reason I think Switch is 9th gen is for the same reason Dreamcast is the same generation as the Gamecube, OG Xbox, and PS2.
2 years later and the Switch caught up, but I think it won 100% because of game sales (as of 24th of October, there are 7 Switch games that sold more copies than the PS4's most sold game, not to mention SM Party being 100k away and ToTK's value being outdated by months and a single million away)
It still makes me wonder how much history could be altered by the nintendo playstation had that gone through.
It would've gone from console wars to a console monopoly
How could you forget about the Soulja console!? Im really disappointed smh
Never heard of it. I had to look it up
@@Authorandgamer it’s basically a huge meme were the tapper soulja boy released ”his own” gaming console. Only thing was that this console was a bootleg of some old console from like the 80s or something
Damn been 1995 to 2005 the Playstation dominated
Clearly, the Philips CD-i was the greatest console of all time, hosting the best collection of games ever created.
afaik only americans thought the goddamn Wii U was an addon, like seriously people
Sonic vs Mario will always be a symbol of the original console wars
Holy shit amazinng video broski. This new style is better, punchier and gets your style across better.
Nintendo sold twice as much consoles comparing to genesis, for the 4th generation.
Okay, of all games I might have expected to see here, Body Harvest (10:25)for the N64 was not one on mind. I put so many hours in to that game back in the day, and hardly anybody in my friend group knew it existed. Granted, these were the same people who tried to dissuade me from playing Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem because it was, I quote, 'an old game'.
10:52 ok that made me laugh lmao
The Switch is the start of the 9th generation, not part of the 8th. It was a completely new animal and honestly deserves the title of generation-starter.
The switch didn't innovate anything but joycons... 😂 it's not a newer gen console
@@VegasD702 Except, y'know, being portable. It was and still is like no other console out there. It started and effectively won the ninth generation console war before the others even got out of the gate.
@@Firehawk376 😂 okay fa sho...
I’m sure this topic won’t dredge up any childish fanboy behavior. No siree
"The XBOX360 wasn't without it's problems though". What, you mean the nearly 50% failure rate from the RRoD that cost Microsoft over $1 Billion? That little problem?
The second generation war was almost as cut-throat as the fourth. Have a look at how the Intellivision advertising took aim at the 2600. And the Colecovision did a great job at showing how much better they were than both.
I used to own that Atari Pong... FUN FACT you not only had to plug it in but it also required BATTERIES to be installed in the bottom.
"This was a f@#$ing demolition job!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would personally say that the Nintendo Switch belongs to the Ninth Generation rather than the Eighth Gemeration, since it was released in 2017, so I would give the edge to the Nintendo Switch so far
Agreed. I expect the Tenth generation may very well see either Sony or Microsoft, or perhaps even both, try to imitate the Switch in some way.
Ah yes, "Pong the video game", a great follow up to Pong: The Movie.
Errr 4th gen was won by SNES (mostly due to Japanese). Sure they lost market share but they still won it if going by sales alone.
4th and 7th gen wars were avengers level threats
Switch is ninth gen. While it was cut kinda short, the Wii U went from 2012 to 2017.
Which is pretty much on par with the GameCube and the N64.
It's next gen, both in capability and release.
The PS4 and Xbox One came out a year later, and lingered on longer.
Wouldn't exactly say that the mobile tablet has the same capabilities as either the PlayStation 5 or xsex despite all 3 being 9th generation consoles
@@bambangamer1271 I never said it was.
Even though it is lacking in power, it's easily a step above the Wii U. Making it a next gen version. At least, in the most basic definition of next gen.
@@SakuraAvalon Couldn't tell mate if it was better or not since I moved on from that company since the cube era
Gen 3: NES
Gen 4: SNES
Gen 5: PS1
Gen 6: PS2
Gen 7: Wii
Gen 8: PS4
Gen 9: PS5
Good video, seems like this Gen is tied so far
Correct. Nobody can say for certain this early. We've to wait a few years to get sort of conclusion, AT LEAST.
GoingGreninja if they both sold out they both winning
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 I guess so.
The Game and Watch wasn't a console, and even if counted, Mattel's handhelds came out first.The Microvision was the first portable console.
The Dreamcast was the most successful console launch ever, when it released in North America. It's failure has a lot to do with Sega pissing off the Japanese market and general piracy - they just didn't have the massive amount of money they needed to keep competing. Especially since they didn't make their own chips.
Otherwise, not bad. For someone who wasn't alive for a lot of it, you got more things right than most RUclips console war analysis.
the game and watch was a machine that you could play videos on with a screen and 3 buttons, i would say the game&watch fits the criteria for a 2nd generation console, aside from that, it was no different from a toy with pre made models instead of coded and moving ones
I consider the Switch to be sort of a generation 8.5/ beta generation 9 console. It technically is just the Wii U with all of the ideas done right, but, it also feels like it's something brand new at the same time, and I think it will continue to do well competing against the PS5 and the Xbox Series X/Series S. The only real new thing Nintendo could claim as a 9th generation console would be a Switch Pro, being an improved version of the Switch, as opposed to a completely new console
This was a fun watch. The bg music for gen 1 did me in.
The Dreamcast not being successful was a tragic story, because it was so good. I remember when it came out, the general reaction was "it seems cool, but I'm waiting for the PS2". Sega bombing with the Saturn during the 5th generation made the Dreamcast dead on arrival.
It seriously surprises me that Microsoft hasn't ever truely won a console generation in terms of sales. You would think with the basically limitless money they have, they could produce a cutting edge console and produce more quality first party games. Not saying that all the Xboxes have been bad, far from it. It's just interesting that companies with less resources like Nintendo and Sony have found ways to keep Microsoft at bay.
Microsoft may have enormous resources, but they also have to spend those resources on many other things as well. So the available budget for gaming products isn't that much different from Sony's and Nintendo's.
I have said this before. I had PS1, PS2, and missed out until the PS5 at launch. I bought a backwards compatible PS3 to play some classic games I missed.
Xbox never won a console generation. Their strongest console was the 360, and the red ring of death coupled with just a few banger exclusives, Sony may have had a late start which caused devs to not prioritize their system, but So y kept pushing and pushing quality exclusives until they sold more consoles than the 360. In the end, the 360 fell 3rd place after the PS3 and Wii. While this video says the Wii won, did it really?
Dude, for the longest time I had no idea a WiiU was it's own separate console and not some kinda add on for the Wii!
Console generations aren't defined solely by when a console released but rather by their entire lifespans, and no way Nintendo's risking putting out a new console any time soon. Expect the Switch to last another five years.
yeah, which ever generation you put the Switch in, it "won"
why can my beloved lunchbox never win anything, gamecube forever... T_T
Not only was I born on the day the PS2 released, but I've also never owned a PlayStation console and this video on top of my consistent failures to secure a PS5 makes me a little ashamed
You'll get one someday. Wish you the best of luck.
I remember the Nes as the first console I had damn I am old. We also had no internet
You left out the other half of why PS4 absolutely dominated over XB1 (and I say this as an XB1 owner so like, no bias). One half was the stupid, stupid issues Microsoft burdened their fanbase with needlessly and that whole mess you describe. But the other was definitely the exclusives. Comparatively, PS4 had exclusives spilling out of its ears while XB1 had basically close to none. Same thing happened with PS2 really. That one won out largely due to the sheer catalogue at its disposal. I had one, and a Dreamcast, and eventually a Gamecube too, and I loved them each for different reasons (crazy thinking back now how I actually managed to have several consoles in the space of one generation). Worth mentioning that the Gamecube was also a fairly late (and thus bit more advance) entry than the PS2 and Dreamcast. My favourite's actually strongly the Dreamcast. But there's no denying PS2 had the edge in game availability by a gigantic margin.
Still a bit pissed off at game series that went console-exclusive part-way through their lineup, btw. What the hell, Street Fighter 5! I wanted to play you. Console exclusivity (between essentially-similar systems) is really kinda terrible. But you can tell why they do it. It's demonstrably profitable. It's a shame really. I do feel like sometimes it's done as a bit of a needless boast, like when you're already dominating, Sony. (grr) Like... at that point did exclusivity really do anything for them? Nobody's buying the other console over halfway into the generation just to have a particular game. All you're doing is wasting cash on denying gamers games. Bit rubbish. But rant over, lol. I originally switched over from PS2 to XB360 simply because XB360 came out a lot earlier than PS3 and I wanted the shiny new things now damnit. With XB1 I got it as a lovely present, the choice probably being based on already having a 360. And I adore the thing and it's what I play right now. But even despite the early u-turns it still retained some leftover problems from that design philosophy, it has to be said. Worst for me being a NON-OPTIONAL cloud save feature that far from providing backup, actually wiped my save files for a couple of games. Not the only example of Microsoft stubbornly insisting they know better than their own users and their own users paying for it when it turns out they don't. You'd think they'd learn that lesson by now. However XB1 is still my system and I still love playing games on it and that's the basic thing isn't it?
Started with a Dragon 32 which I guess is in 2nd gen. It went off an audio tape storage device, so it has to be pretty early on. One of the more obscure ones, lol. After that the Master System made me a Sega kid and of course it was followed by the Mega Drive. Following that, had a PS1 and after that a PS2 and the circle is complete up to the current day.
I honestly can't see myself getting an XBX (I think it's called?) or a PS5. What the hell were they thinking releasing these things in 2020? I don't care how long a generation has been, who on earth's got the money for new consoles right now? I don't see this generation doing very well, at least not unless Nintendo or someone else throws another mid-gen contender into the mix (or unless the Switch counts, which... yeah, it could). Plus there's the thing that with each new gen, the difference in capability is a hell of a lot less evident or necessary in most game types than the difference between the last couple was. I think 9th gen has basically reached the take-it-or-leave-it point. Neither of those feels like something I need, y'know? When I was playing my PS1 I was salivating for what the PS2 would be capable of (resulting in what I still think was perhaps the most brass-necked bait-and-switch in video game history, WWE Smackdown JBI's game attract video). Now playing my XB1 I'm honestly just fine where I am.
The only games I can see now genuinely needing greater console capabilities are ones with massive data processing at their core, like world simulators or construction/management games and the like. Whereas your more traditional dominant genres such as racing, beat-'em-up, platformer, open world, set-piece adventure, puzzle, and all those sorts... they kind have everything they need. All they get out of greater capabilities by now are hardly-noticeable minor prettiness tweaks. Perhaps there's an online side I'm not seeing since I'm honestly just not an online kind of gamer. But for the vast majority of your core standard single player experiences at least, I just don't see the need for new tech. In fact, games might actually benefit from a bit more of a limited pallette nowadays. The retro explosion has kinda shown us that with such inventive stuff. It's like the old days except you get to pick and choose which limits to impose rather than being stuck with the ones that are possible. It's pretty great in that way, but it does take an artist who actually recognises it at a positive, which... isn't most of the big budget side of it yet.
It sucks that the Gamecube didn't catch on as well as it should. Those little discs had low loading times and were damn near indestructible.
Now every game I play has to load for about five good minutes per area before I can play it.
In terms of each gen my personal favorites
Genesis
PS1
PS2
PS3
PS4
Overall my favorite platform is PC.
Gamecube was gold too but ps2 was the best console so far.
Meanwhile in the 4th Generation, NEC PC ENGINE putting up a good fight and not exisiting
Genesis didn’t win dude it outsold snes for like half a year. they held their own but didn’t win out
He gave them the win, not because they sold more, but because it was impressive that they were able to push that far into the market, which Nintendo had had a stranglehold on for the whole previous Gen.
Yeah he’s smoking some serious shit. SNES is arguably the best console ever.
@@Zander2212 that’s not a win though
Dislike for the simple lack of the KFC console
Except that is not a console, just a gimmicky gaming PC.
When I was a kid I had the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360. I also had the N64, Xbox, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and the Xbox One. Now all I have is Steam.
This was a good video but constructive criticism: I wasn’t a fan of the buzzing alarm sound that went on for 3 minutes at intervals of 20 seconds representing Pong while you were talking 😬
Maybe would’ve not had that background noise running through that segment
I’m still waiting for the release of the real successor to the Wii U:
The Nintendo Wii U2 with Super Bono Bros included as a launch game.
It didn't help that the PS2 was cheap DVD player when DVDs were starting to become a thing alongside being a game console.
I also consider the Switch a 9th gen console.
Other than the various computers, the consoles I had were Atari that my parents had. My first system I actually ever got was the Sega Genesis, then the Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Wii, PlayStation one with the screen attached to it, PS2, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Switch. The PlayStations and Xboxes I've got while there were working on the their following generations. And not counting the handheld systems
SNES won the war over here. Sega Genesis came out first and took attention away from the NES. Then the SNES came in and stole the market back. GameBoy added to the domination while Sega went on to ruin the Genesis with add-ons. The strong exclusives for Nintendo shined during this generation.
My theory has always been that the WiiU was released because the other two were launching a new console and Nintendo still had a few years before the switch was ready so they released an upgraded wii with a prototype the switch tablet.
I'm waiting to buy a PS5 until the inevitable redesign and price drop.
Hmm, that chiptune outro is oddly familiar. Is there something you'd like to confess, Rabbidluigi?
Eh, the Switch is a 9th generation system in my eyes. When it comes to the PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii-U, the PS4 decimates.
Any possibility of a handheld-specific list in the future?
I'm a fan of this new format. Still a fan of the old format too, but do what you gotta do to avoid burnout friend.
Long story short
NES
SNES
PS1
PS2
Wii
PS4
Switch (I technically count Switch as the PS5/Series X competitor since it released closer to them than the PS4/Xbone, and the Wii U was the system of their generation)
Sixth generation is probably my favourite, followed by the fifth.
What determines the beginning and end of a console generation? I feel like the ps4 slim/pro, the Xbox one s/x, and the Nintendo switch are a separate micro console generation tbh.
The gamecube will always have a special place in my heart.