I mentioned to Trailrecon about they might need a break in and when loaded they would show how good they really are. He said his got better after they broke in, and also were far better after he loaded his Jeep. Hard to tell empty, loaded made the big difference. Less brake fade and heat!
Little tip. If you pi. Down the brake pedal while changing out the brake lines or calipers you won't have that constant stream of brake fluid come out like that.
Love the video. I have a 16 jku and was wondering the differences between stock and this kit. As far as life of the brakes I have 69k on the jeep and 35s since 27k. It's on its 2nd set of pads and still have the original rotors with no warping. Very impressed with the life of the stock stuff.
Finally got around to watching this video. Most people don’t think about the brakes when going to larger tires, so good job. Nice to see your wife in the video, she did a great job also. So when did you bust the windshield? Haven’t noticed it before but I am old so...
Your wife is probably wondering when she finally gets to drive her Jeep. 😄 I switched to sloted/ported rotors years ago and going back to smooth just never feels good again.
Hey BleepinJeep, not sure if you will see this comment, but seeing this year is 5 years old now, would you recommend these brakes, or a similar brand. I have a 2007 jeep jk 4 door and in need of new brakes, calipers and rotors, i need it all!
I’m about to do this mod on a TJ and I was thinking that to make the stopping distance test comparable, I need to bleed the old brakes before I change them since they’ll be nicely bled after.
I have a 2020 ECO diesel Rubicon 4 door JL I’m running 37 tires. I’ll probably upgrade my axels in a few years and tires up to 40’s if I did upgraded my breaks now could/would a person be able to reuse the Z36 brakes on 1 ton axels? Thx love the videos.
unless u can't do it because of braided lines, its best to pinch ur brake hoses, open up the bleeder and then to shove ur pistons back into the caliper body. caliper fluid is always filthy, as was evident by the fluid in ur bleeder bottle, and shoving that crap back into ur abs module could create problems. also, if u don't have an assistant, u can bleed brakes by opening the bleeder and attaching a hose immersed in clean brake fluid, and then just pump the brakes repeatedly.
your lovely assistant looks as thrilled as my lovely assistant (my wife) when i make her help me bleed brakes. i don’t know if i would spend all that money and time for eight feet
like I sadi at the end, it should also help with towing and warping when towing. But 8 feet is a lot when you are talking about smashing into someones car for 8 feet or zero feet.
Well, I just installed these on my 392 JL, did the break-in procedure as instructed on the box and now I've got squeaky brakes, the same sound you get when the brakes get wet but they're dry. Does this go away in time? It's only when near a complete stop or when letting off the brake slowly.
Just curious if stock front JL caliper brackets would bolt on to a JK? This would be a cheap big brake kit for a JK with JL rubicon calipers, pads and rotors. 302mm to 342 mm and with twin piston.
The Z36 pad is thermally scorched to have a faster break in period than is typically required. That said, everyone has a different driving style that will absolutely affect the time it takes to bed the pads to the rotors. We definitely recommend that everyone follow the instructions to bed their new brakes in to ensure the best possible performance.
@@bleepinjeep Nice! My trailer will be done by then too! Trying to get it road worthy in the next month cause we're doing a family camping trip to the Rubicon Trail the weekend after Labor Day!
#BleepinJeep, I have been told to stay away from the drilled rotors due to the rapid cooling around the holes while out wheeling/heavy breaking which will cause cracks and damage to the rotors. What do you think? Would you trust the drilled rotors over long term and heavy weekend wheeling? Love your videos, keep them coming!
Nice brakes! If you are going to build a trailer, are you going to do what I have seen some XJ owners do and use a salvage XJ (in your case salvage JL) as basis for it? Seems like great little BJ project.
I can see that... why not buy a Rubicon. What are you gaining by not buying a Rubicon? I own a 19 JLU Rubicon turbo. I went to look at a sport, but came home with Rudi. Very happy with it.
The kit installed here is actually a Rubicon kit, so it is an upgrade from the Sport brakes on a JL. It is not listed on our website yet, but will soon.
I always love your videos but this kit seems to be a bit "meh". Disks and Pads are different but the Calipers are the exact same, just painted red. A side by side comparison would have been useful to spot the differences. Also are the brakelines braided or "normal"?
@@Powerstop I don't doubt that but i'm curios what is actually different in the calipers, beside the Electrostatic High-Heat Powder Coating and EPDM rubber. On your site you wrote in length about rotors and pads but the caliper is lacking info. Not hating your product, but geniunly curious. Thank you for taking time to read my comment.
@@gafrers In this case it is exactly as you say, an OE-equivalent caliper, it's really an upgrade because it's the rubicon model caliper with extra corrosion resistance. We do source at minimum OE level components and if we can upgrade something without reducing service life we will. The powder coat and the EPDM rubber seals are 2 things that you will find in all of our calipers across the board, some of the other upgrades vary from caliper to caliper.
@@Powerstop in defense of the OEM calipers - aftermarket calipers of any real quality are EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE - to design, have manufactured, and test for safety. This kit isn't cheap, but I assume most folks here haven't paid the 4-12k USD for a legitimate big brake kit. This offers a solid upgrade without having to source and remanufacture ebuild your own OEM Ruibicon used calipers. Good for you for not sidestepping your sourcing like a particular handheld radio 'manufacturer' does ;)
Matt, I love your videos. I do have a little criticism though...You should start with farthest away from the master cylinder (passenger rear) and work your way around ending up with the driver front; that way the air pockets do not make their way back into another caliper pocket accidentally.
Great consideration, larger brakes with larger tires. Many fail to do that. Those Z-36 brake lines could use additional design features. For one, it appears the ones they gave you are too long. Another thing, they should have followed the factory design so the ABS and the factory clips and holders were duplicated better. Not so sure that off-road brush and tumble weeds will get by without some damage plus the LF location by the front driveshaft is iffy too. Maybe once they get past the "prototype" stages, you can make some suggestions to realize a better end result. Zip ties are nice but they also wear and will fail unlike steel fastener solutions. Brake lines need to be tucked away and firmly so that they are not damaged by other surrounding failures or road hazards for safety reasons. Good ideal though, thanks for the review.
The lines that matt got are actually for a lift kit, those lines will have a few features that differ from the OE design. There is an OE-length line with all of the factory features coming as well.
They were longer yes, but thats the point as most people with bigger brakes, bigger tires, have a bigger lift and need longer lines. Also just to be clear they did come with the factory like hardware just like stock but on the front ones it bolts to the factory control arm which I do not have after installing an aftermarket lift. So I cut them off the new lines. So the only thing really "missing" was the clips to attach the wheel speed sensor line to the brake line which were just plastic clips anyway so I think zip ties will be ok. Thanks for watching!
Great videos...I wheeled with your group in your awesome trucky at AOP this year at Crawlin for Reed. Are you going to add a catch can to help with the motor smoking on steep inclines? I saw this one: m.uprproducts.com/jeep-billet-oil-catch-can-separator-wrangler-36.html
Glad to see PowerStop using your channel to introduce and test their new products.
Great video, I think we should have a vote to see who won the dance off. I'll go with MS BleepinJeep.
I mentioned to Trailrecon about they might need a break in and when loaded they would show how good they really are. He said his got better after they broke in, and also were far better after he loaded his Jeep. Hard to tell empty, loaded made the big difference. Less brake fade and heat!
Little tip. If you pi. Down the brake pedal while changing out the brake lines or calipers you won't have that constant stream of brake fluid come out like that.
No happy dance at my house either so I switched to speed bleeders on all of my cars. Makes it an easy one-man job.
Thank you for filming this, I gotta do this to my Tundra
Love the video. I have a 16 jku and was wondering the differences between stock and this kit. As far as life of the brakes I have 69k on the jeep and 35s since 27k. It's on its 2nd set of pads and still have the original rotors with no warping. Very impressed with the life of the stock stuff.
I bought some of their rotors and carbon infused break pads for my xj and they kick ass
Finally got around to watching this video. Most people don’t think about the brakes when going to larger tires, so good job. Nice to see your wife in the video, she did a great job also.
So when did you bust the windshield? Haven’t noticed it before but I am old so...
Lol, about a month after we got it... it's just now starting to spiderweb.
You make everything look so easy :)
Great video , how do you like the calipers ? I got the rotors and pads for now.
Your wife is probably wondering when she finally gets to drive her Jeep. 😄
I switched to sloted/ported rotors years ago and going back to smooth just never feels good again.
Hey BleepinJeep, not sure if you will see this comment, but seeing this year is 5 years old now, would you recommend these brakes, or a similar brand. I have a 2007 jeep jk 4 door and in need of new brakes, calipers and rotors, i need it all!
I’m about to do this mod on a TJ and I was thinking that to make the stopping distance test comparable, I need to bleed the old brakes before I change them since they’ll be nicely bled after.
Love that bucket truck!!!
I have a 2020 ECO diesel Rubicon 4 door JL I’m running 37 tires. I’ll probably upgrade my axels in a few years and tires up to 40’s if I did upgraded my breaks now could/would a person be able to reuse the Z36 brakes on 1 ton axels? Thx love the videos.
I'm sure with a fully loaded jeep or with a trailer on the back you would notice a significant difference in that stopping test
I really enjoyed the video Matt,didnt care for the background music....
you mean you didnt enjoy the song "cant stop, wont stop"?
unless u can't do it because of braided lines, its best to pinch ur brake hoses, open up the bleeder and then to shove ur pistons back into the caliper body. caliper fluid is always filthy, as was evident by the fluid in ur bleeder bottle, and shoving that crap back into ur abs module could create problems.
also, if u don't have an assistant, u can bleed brakes by opening the bleeder and attaching a hose immersed in clean brake fluid, and then just pump the brakes repeatedly.
How are the brakes holding up? I’m trying to see if you can recommend a brake upgrade for my Jeep jl sport
What year is your wrangler?
your lovely assistant looks as thrilled as my lovely assistant (my wife) when i make her help me bleed brakes. i don’t know if i would spend all that money and time for eight feet
like I sadi at the end, it should also help with towing and warping when towing. But 8 feet is a lot when you are talking about smashing into someones car for 8 feet or zero feet.
How are they holding up, and how do you keep the mud and sand out of them?
Well, I just installed these on my 392 JL, did the break-in procedure as instructed on the box and now I've got squeaky brakes, the same sound you get when the brakes get wet but they're dry. Does this go away in time? It's only when near a complete stop or when letting off the brake slowly.
I would assume you got one of the slides in there backwards or maybe it just got crooked somehow.
Matt you wear the same shoes as the guy on project farm.
you mean the most comfortable shoes in the world?
Just curious if stock front JL caliper brackets would bolt on to a JK? This would be a cheap big brake kit for a JK with JL rubicon calipers, pads and rotors. 302mm to 342 mm and with twin piston.
Not sure you ever figured this out but yes the JL Rubicon brakes bolt right up to the JK w just a slight trim of the dust shield in front.
Let me tag along when your going to do rubicon or any overland trip
It needs a lot of driving to seat the brakes. I think, that after 200 miles you will get better brake results from 40 m/h to a dead stop.
Yes, I think so too but didnt have time to drive 200 miles 😭
The Z36 pad is thermally scorched to have a faster break in period than is typically required. That said, everyone has a different driving style that will absolutely affect the time it takes to bed the pads to the rotors. We definitely recommend that everyone follow the instructions to bed their new brakes in to ensure the best possible performance.
Good work, excellent video!
Im not seeing any kits with the new break lines. Are they necessary?
Whoa, you're comin to CA to do the Rubicon with your JL????? When you coming? I'm just like 3 hours south of the Con, hit me up, let's go wheelin!!!
Hopefully next summer, I gotta build the trailer still
@@bleepinjeep Nice! My trailer will be done by then too! Trying to get it road worthy in the next month cause we're doing a family camping trip to the Rubicon Trail the weekend after Labor Day!
Awesome video mate, I need to do this on my tj
Omg! Matt didnt show his Anti seize going on between the rotors and bearings? Who are you!?!?
Great video! Thank you!
#BleepinJeep, I have been told to stay away from the drilled rotors due to the rapid cooling around the holes while out wheeling/heavy breaking which will cause cracks and damage to the rotors. What do you think? Would you trust the drilled rotors over long term and heavy weekend wheeling?
Love your videos, keep them coming!
OOOH, pretty. Great results too.
Lookin good matt!
Prob should torque the bolts to factory spec.
Great video 👍
You regear?
Good info
Nice brakes! If you are going to build a trailer, are you going to do what I have seen some XJ owners do and use a salvage XJ (in your case salvage JL) as basis for it? Seems like great little BJ project.
I'd like to use the half TJ thats in my shop now.
These would not be an upgrade to the rubicon big brake kit, would they??
the rotors and pads are an upgrade yes, and the lines... I think the calipers are factory Mopar but painted red... Kindof an upgrade, lol
Nice. I looked but this set isn’t on their website :(
Doesn’t the Rubicon edition come stock with bigger brakes ??
it does... my jeep is not a rubicon
I can see that... why not buy a Rubicon.
What are you gaining by not buying a Rubicon?
I own a 19 JLU Rubicon turbo.
I went to look at a sport, but came home with Rudi.
Very happy with it.
@@rogerballard3587 I gained about $15,000 lol
Now I get it. Very true!!
Are these calipers any different from oem? Bigger pistons or anything else?
Check it out on their website.
From what I know they are factory replacements
The kit installed here is actually a Rubicon kit, so it is an upgrade from the Sport brakes on a JL. It is not listed on our website yet, but will soon.
they were different but were still Mopar calipers... I'm not sure if they have a size difference.
@@Powerstop So a Rubicon would really only need the rotors and pads?
Your wife is going to need a new daily driver again 😂
I always love your videos but this kit seems to be a bit "meh". Disks and Pads are different but the Calipers are the exact same, just painted red. A side by side comparison would have been useful to spot the differences. Also are the brakelines braided or "normal"?
The kit he installed here is actually all rubicon spec parts, that includes different calipers, pads, brackets, and bigger rotors.
@@Powerstop I don't doubt that but i'm curios what is actually different in the calipers, beside the Electrostatic High-Heat Powder Coating and EPDM rubber. On your site you wrote in length about rotors and pads but the caliper is lacking info. Not hating your product, but geniunly curious. Thank you for taking time to read my comment.
@@gafrers In this case it is exactly as you say, an OE-equivalent caliper, it's really an upgrade because it's the rubicon model caliper with extra corrosion resistance. We do source at minimum OE level components and if we can upgrade something without reducing service life we will. The powder coat and the EPDM rubber seals are 2 things that you will find in all of our calipers across the board, some of the other upgrades vary from caliper to caliper.
@@Powerstop Thank You kindly for your reply and explanation.
@@Powerstop in defense of the OEM calipers - aftermarket calipers of any real quality are EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE - to design, have manufactured, and test for safety. This kit isn't cheap, but I assume most folks here haven't paid the 4-12k USD for a legitimate big brake kit. This offers a solid upgrade without having to source and remanufacture
ebuild your own OEM Ruibicon used calipers. Good for you for not sidestepping your sourcing like a particular handheld radio 'manufacturer' does ;)
Matt, I love your videos. I do have a little criticism though...You should start with farthest away from the master cylinder (passenger rear) and work your way around ending up with the driver front; that way the air pockets do not make their way back into another caliper pocket accidentally.
he did, he even said to do this in the video
I did that.
I put powerstop on my truck and will not run anything else. I had ebc greenstuff on my car and i like powerstop brakes better.
Is her JL a Sport?
yes
Well then 37’s are going on my wife’s Sport!
Why did you replace the calipers? They are both twin piston. I don't see the advantage of spending all that money on calipers.
you dont like the pretty red color?? 😰
Great consideration, larger brakes with larger tires. Many fail to do that. Those Z-36 brake lines could use additional design features. For one, it appears the ones they gave you are too long. Another thing, they should have followed the factory design so the ABS and the factory clips and holders were duplicated better. Not so sure that off-road brush and tumble weeds will get by without some damage plus the LF location by the front driveshaft is iffy too. Maybe once they get past the "prototype" stages, you can make some suggestions to realize a better end result. Zip ties are nice but they also wear and will fail unlike steel fastener solutions. Brake lines need to be tucked away and firmly so that they are not damaged by other surrounding failures or road hazards for safety reasons. Good ideal though, thanks for the review.
The lines that matt got are actually for a lift kit, those lines will have a few features that differ from the OE design. There is an OE-length line with all of the factory features coming as well.
They were longer yes, but thats the point as most people with bigger brakes, bigger tires, have a bigger lift and need longer lines. Also just to be clear they did come with the factory like hardware just like stock but on the front ones it bolts to the factory control arm which I do not have after installing an aftermarket lift. So I cut them off the new lines. So the only thing really "missing" was the clips to attach the wheel speed sensor line to the brake line which were just plastic clips anyway so I think zip ties will be ok. Thanks for watching!
@@bleepinjeep Zip ties and speed tape will cure many an ailment.
holy shit they're $1200?!
You should of used the brake checking chicken 🐓
Great videos...I wheeled with your group in your awesome trucky at AOP this year at Crawlin for Reed. Are you going to add a catch can to help with the motor smoking on steep inclines? I saw this one:
m.uprproducts.com/jeep-billet-oil-catch-can-separator-wrangler-36.html
ya I probably need to do that before I do any serious offroading.
@@bleepinjeep they seem to be somewhat of a joke...but may be worth it
Are the calipers any different from the oem ones?