N Gauge Four Oaks Street Station Part 96 Loop completed but how long is it and how to calculate it?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this video I calculate the scale speed of a loco over a scale mile and then using this data calculate the length of one full circuit of the layout.
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That's a really helpful way to work out scale train speeds. For smaller layouts (such as mine), using a scale 1/10th mile is helpful. That is 3ft 7 in. or close to 1.1 meters. (It so happens I have a platform on my layout precisely that length - passengers please stand clear of the platform edge for speed trials!)
So, to cover that distance at 30 mph takes 12 seconds, 40 mph 9 seconds, 60mph 6 seconds, 90 mph 4 seconds, and 120 mph 3 seconds. This way many of the 'regular' speeds are mapped out in easy seconds ! Great video thanks.
that's excellent Graham, it's always nice to hear that someone has found something useful from a youtube offering. Graham you should put up a video of your layout at some point. cheers Graham.
Very informative don't think about things like this till you see how good it looks when it is running 👍
Thanks Clive
Just come across your channel as a "you've watched videos from @Elvenhome and @exehavenharbour so try this" and I must say I'm impressed! That double level viaduct is something else!
No doubt I'll be revisiting some of your older videos over the coming weeks to add further inspiration to my own layour 😀
All the best, Rich
Thanks Rich much appreciated
As a fellow N-scaler, I salute your craftsmanship and attention to detail! Wonderful bridges/viaducts!! 👍(new subscriber, Virginia, USA)
Thank you very much John, i could not find any content on your channel, it may be time you showed your layout! All the best John
Enjoyed that Chris, I like trains running at scale speed, very interesting calculations much more scientific than my looking at them and judging the speed!!!
It’s so good watching the trains run around your layout and I’m sure you have many happy hours ahead, especially now you’re sorting the speeds and not having to worry about a back end crash!
Cheers Chris, John
Thanks John, yes its great fun letting them run and they look great at scale speeds, all the best.
Well done Chris.
Thankyou
This is a really great exercise as I have often thought how do I make the speed of the trains look right. Loving the double viaduct view.
Thank you very much for the feedback
Hi Chris, enjoyed the video it’s great to see your trains circulating your fantastic layout! I think trains always look far better running at scale speeds rather than like rockets 🚀 around a layout!! I had to have a laugh to my self as when I run my trains at scale speed it takes about 38 seconds to do a full loop compared to your 7 minutes plus!!! Enjoy the trains!! Cheers Gary
Thanks Gary, feedback much appreciated, the Helix takes up about 3 min, 7 mins scenic that would be epic, cheers
Very informative Chris. The trains look superb going through all the different sections of the layout. Have to say the two viaducts are my favourite part of the layout. Cheers Euan
Thanks Euan, can I feel a bridge coming for Blackwood?
@@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 believe it not there is a bridge already. 3 arch viaduct on the back board - you just never actually see it as the board is against the back wall of the shed.
Very interesting Chris. That is going to be so helpful in running trains at scale speed. The two goods trains really did look good running around the layout especially through the countryside and over the viaduct. You are going to be able just to sit and watch trains for hours. If have them all at the same scale speed you are not going to need to do too much adjusting the controls for trains following each other. Stephen
Thanks Stephen, I think when model trains are hitting scale speeds over 120mph they look wrong unless you have a massive layout, way bigger than mine, I have seen the Japanese Kato trains whizzing round like slot cars at some exhibitions. Cheers
Hi Chris! Some great calculations there! I said about 10 minutes of continuous running so wasn't far off, especially if you factor in a slower 37 or 40! I did wonder whether or not the trains actually slow down when ascending the helix - or speed up on the descent? But let's not get bogged down in the details! Lol! The result is that the trains really do look good running through the countryside at realistic speeds... continuously! All the best, Ian.
Good point, i believe the back EMF is like a cruise control, but i might be incorrect. Cheers Ian
Stunning layout can I ask how big your room is, Looks massive??. Thanks Andy
the viaduct side of the layout 1s 21.5 ft X 16.5 ft across the back window X11.5 ft new section and station area 15.5Ft
I did a little measure of mine a few months back. I had roughly 1 mile for the full lap by pure chance. I was quite surprised at how slow I have to go to do the full lap in 1 minute.
From what I have read it's because we are viewing generally from above and quite far away in scale a similar principle when we view a plane and it looks like it is not moving, cheers
@@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 I do slow it down now a bit. Perhaps if I had a flat layout it would be easier.
Interesting to see. Maths on RUclips is risky (I fear it any time I do calculations in my videos, as I've caught a few mistakes just before publishing!). You used 7:27, i.e. seven minutes and twenty-seven seconds, as 7.27 minutes in your calculations... but 0.27 of a minute is 16.2 seconds, not 27 seconds; 7:27 as a decimal number of minutes is 7.45 minutes - not sure how much difference that makes to the overall numbers but I mention it in case it helps!
Yes agree, it's risky and you are correct. I decided to mark out 1 scale mile to try and make it simpler. The distance was 35.67 feet and the class 108 took 1 minute so 60 mph was the speed of the train. The distance calculation should be 35.67 X7.45= 265.74 feet or 81.76 metres. Thanks for the feedback
track cleaning vid... ruclips.net/video/lBYxjcTWCB0/видео.html&ab_channel=Ron%27sTrainsNThings
Yes I have seen this only in the last few days, my only question relates to the traction tyres on some loco's, does it affect them in any way. Anyway thankyou for the feedback.
I really don't know, my layout is under construction and only has a few small inclines and I am going to use this method from the off, as you saw on the film you are only applying a very small micro film of it. I would certainly go down the route of mineral spirits above IPA too, I have seen quite a few videos being against IPA for track cleaning on larger layouts. Maybe the idea of applying the method to your layout on all areas other than the Helix areas and let the locos drag it around over time, that is if they can, the application is meant to be a microfilm, not even visible to the eye to aid conductivity, if locos are slipping on it then I think too much has been applied. However, I have not tried it so can't speak from experience. my layout is well under way, some filming done, I will apply this method once at the first stage of my track is down permanently, I don't mind being the crash test dummy in a few weeks time. in the mean time, stick with Mineral Spirits if you are a bit too concerned.
@@chuffinel7676 It will be a good experiment, with the traction tyres it more about the tyres going soft and stretching which happens when they get oil or grease on them. Anyone will watch with interest once you are ready to test it. Cheers
won't be long, I am just finishing up some baseboard tweaking and planning, my first stage is a single elevated branch line with inclines up to viaducts etc, I have a Dapol tender Loco with traction tyres, I hope the product is easily available in the UK too. I also have a very old Lima class 31 which I entirely stripped down to the last screw, cleaned and rebuilt and removed the perished traction tyres, so I can try that with no tyres and tyres after.@@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932