Got my Torch in 2013. Bring a small handheld white board, tell your family and friends that you're going to be almost completely isolated for three weeks, and that you don't need home drama, kid issues, all of that to not be told to you until you come back. You will need your mind to be clear, and completely free of other thoughts. Be prepared to study more than you ever have in your life, and take 2 days of the course where you study maybe two hours, then take the rest of the day to go into town to eat, shop, have a beer, do whatever you can do to give your mind a break. If you burn your brain out, you will fail. You retain information better when well rested and slightly reduced stress levels. Find a partner, a guy that you can study with, bullshit with, grab some food with, grab a beer with, just a partner to help you share the stress with and to decompress. Keep in mind the amazing feeling you'll have when they pin that torch on your chest. You'll make it
@@williammartin4446 I actually know a William Martin from 101, what’s your mos? And right now I’d study nomenclature. I printed out the 2 study material from the school house website and put it in document protectors in a binder. I’d skim through reading everything to get the info on them down. Then I’d start pointing it out and saying it’s name verbatim and it’s rating in pounds etc. I didn’t study deficiencies till I passed the nomenclature test (2nd day). All you can do is study and study more. Once I was getting the nomenclature right I was making cards of the info from the pictures of the equipment to see how well I actually knew it. You need to take each phase a step at a time and worry about where you currently are and not study ahead at all.
@@williammartin4446 study that nomenclature and take it serious and a phase at a time and go! Lots of people were on there 2nd or more time so just stay committed and you’ll get it in the end. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sorry for not responding, I’ve been on a deployment rotation for a little while now. I hope everyone was successful! I get some negative comments that really frustrate me but if this video helps create one new pathfinder, it was worth it. Congrats on the torch! (even if it’s a little late)
I flunked out of Benning PF school by one question on the DZ, re-test the day before the field exercise. I think it was '99 or year 2000. Such a heartbreaker, as I got into the class by a fluke after years of trying to land that school. I think the heavy memorization was my undoing. Coolest badge in the Army.
Just got my active contract as a 92Y not too long ago. I read a book about a Vietnam Pathfinder about a year ago and have made it a goal of my to get this badge before I get out the army. You’ve earned a sub!
Jumpmaster and then Pathfinder is amazing . I say that because that's truly the easiest way to pass the course. Great points about the difference in Air Assault and PF. For record, I passed JM easily, passed DZSTL ( short , but separate course} , and almost failed PF because of sling loads. My advice for these thinking courses, find somebody more experienced than yourself.
Got my "Torch" thirty-three years with the 101st Airborne Division (AASLT) in October, 1991. I didn't have much trouble going through the course, and you're spot on about walking away from it so you don't have a mental meltdown. But had fun and some good memories.
@@milessimon5820 so the 1-507th PIR (same unit that puts on Airborne School) stopped conducting Pathfinder school. Now it’s only the Warrior Training Center. They’re also based on Fort Benning, but they’re National Guard guys mainly doing Mobile Training Teams, basically traveling around putting on different courses around the world. The only way to get Pathfinder now is through the WTC.
I graduated with guys who didn’t have either so you can absolutely still pass without having been to those schools. They would absolutely help you though. Phases 1 & 2 of Pathfinder are essentially a more in depth Air Assault school. So you’ll have an easier time picking up that knowledge. Airborne won’t really help you except to visualize and make real world application of the material. Jumpmaster gives you an even deeper understanding of some of those topics. But even with all of that, I still had a harder time than some of the guys who had never been to any of them. Bottom line, just go for it!
I’m so salty about pathfinder school. My MOS 15u/67u is basically pathfinder exclusive and we have billets for pathfinders in most every chinook unit. I found this out and did the work to get into pathfinder school. I had the orders cut but my regimental commander stopped me from going because he held a grudge. He said that we didn’t need it and I got sent to loadmaster school instead. I STILL hold that grudge and it’s been over 20 years.
I was out of the army for years when I read somewhere that Air Assault School is the "ten toughest days in the army". I spit my beer out laughing. Whoever came up with that lie had never been to ranger school...and I went when there was still a desert phase. Former Cco 509th Pathfinders.
I can’t find any videos that go over how to do HLZ and DZ math... I’m going to Pathfinder 13-Jan. It would be awesome to see a video for that. I can find plenty of sling load videos. (This is a good video and information by the way)
so the 1-507th PIR (same unit that puts on Airborne School) stopped conducting Pathfinder school. Now it’s only the Warrior Training Center. They’re also based on Fort Benning, but they’re National Guard guys mainly doing Mobile Training Teams, basically traveling around putting on different courses around the world. The only way to get Pathfinder now is through the WTC.
@@NemeanIndustries from my understanding they want it to make it more like jumpmaster. Air assault is now required before attending. Also at Ft Campbell so many want to go, they have developed an OML. They stopped taking drop off at TSAAS. Classes gets full very quickly limiting the slots even more. Yet, still gets full.
@@jansruiz4655 that’s wild. I went through late last year with the WTC on Benning, and the instructors there were saying that there was still a big push to shut it down. If anything, they should shut down Air Assault before Pathfinder in my opinion. I’m just glad I got to go before anything dumb happens.
They’ll give you everything you need when you get there. Like I said in the video, if you get everything before you go, it would probably do more harm than good.
@Nemean Industries we are GRF rn and I haven't made time to study the Nomenclatures and I got told earlier today and by your video there's a test day 1 so yeah.... 🙃 studying the Nomenclatures time now.
@Nemean Industries Day one complete!! Nomenclature test tomorrow!! Feeling good about the test so far. Studying all day yesterday helped a loooooot. Thanks for sharing your experience just wanted give an update.
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Got my Torch in 2013. Bring a small handheld white board, tell your family and friends that you're going to be almost completely isolated for three weeks, and that you don't need home drama, kid issues, all of that to not be told to you until you come back. You will need your mind to be clear, and completely free of other thoughts. Be prepared to study more than you ever have in your life, and take 2 days of the course where you study maybe two hours, then take the rest of the day to go into town to eat, shop, have a beer, do whatever you can do to give your mind a break. If you burn your brain out, you will fail. You retain information better when well rested and slightly reduced stress levels. Find a partner, a guy that you can study with, bullshit with, grab some food with, grab a beer with, just a partner to help you share the stress with and to decompress. Keep in mind the amazing feeling you'll have when they pin that torch on your chest. You'll make it
Just went through and got my torch at Campbell. I watched this video a million times trying to get anything I could. I appreciate everything!
I'm going Jan 3 here at Campbell. Any tips you can give me other than what he already stated will be gladly appreciated
@@williammartin4446 I actually know a William Martin from 101, what’s your mos? And right now I’d study nomenclature. I printed out the 2 study material from the school house website and put it in document protectors in a binder. I’d skim through reading everything to get the info on them down. Then I’d start pointing it out and saying it’s name verbatim and it’s rating in pounds etc. I didn’t study deficiencies till I passed the nomenclature test (2nd day). All you can do is study and study more. Once I was getting the nomenclature right I was making cards of the info from the pictures of the equipment to see how well I actually knew it. You need to take each phase a step at a time and worry about where you currently are and not study ahead at all.
@@NoNo-nq6vs I'm a 923A warrant officer. Thanks for the tip too
@@williammartin4446 study that nomenclature and take it serious and a phase at a time and go! Lots of people were on there 2nd or more time so just stay committed and you’ll get it in the end. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sorry for not responding, I’ve been on a deployment rotation for a little while now. I hope everyone was successful! I get some negative comments that really frustrate me but if this video helps create one new pathfinder, it was worth it. Congrats on the torch! (even if it’s a little late)
I flunked out of Benning PF school by one question on the DZ, re-test the day before the field exercise. I think it was '99 or year 2000. Such a heartbreaker, as I got into the class by a fluke after years of trying to land that school. I think the heavy memorization was my undoing. Coolest badge in the Army.
Just got my active contract as a 92Y not too long ago. I read a book about a Vietnam Pathfinder about a year ago and have made it a goal of my to get this badge before I get out the army. You’ve earned a sub!
Jumpmaster and then Pathfinder is amazing . I say that because that's truly the easiest way to pass the course. Great points about the difference in Air Assault and PF. For record, I passed JM easily, passed DZSTL ( short , but separate course} , and almost failed PF because of sling loads. My advice for these thinking courses, find somebody more experienced than yourself.
I should add, I was a tabbed E-4 JM in 2/75 and then passed PF in 173rd LRSD more than 10yrs later.
Hey brother, got my torch today! Your video was spot on! Keep up the great work!
Got my "Torch" thirty-three years with the 101st Airborne Division (AASLT) in October, 1991. I didn't have much trouble going through the course, and you're spot on about walking away from it so you don't have a mental meltdown. But had fun and some good memories.
Good video bro super chill, down to earth, accurate real world feedback. I was in your class also SSG Nakasone
Just passed the DZs test today. Everything here was spot on!
Congrats! Hardest test of the course in my opinion. Rest of the course is easy! Get that torch!
Hey did they stop doing that school?
@@milessimon5820 so the 1-507th PIR (same unit that puts on Airborne School) stopped conducting Pathfinder school. Now it’s only the Warrior Training Center. They’re also based on Fort Benning, but they’re National Guard guys mainly doing Mobile Training Teams, basically traveling around putting on different courses around the world. The only way to get Pathfinder now is through the WTC.
@@NemeanIndustries TSAAS at Campbell still hosts monthly courses
i’m torn.. right now for a re enlistment i get to choose between pathfinder and jungle. Both are so cool but i can only get one.
@nemeanindustries would you recommend this course for someone who has never been to air assault and airborne school?
I graduated with guys who didn’t have either so you can absolutely still pass without having been to those schools. They would absolutely help you though. Phases 1 & 2 of Pathfinder are essentially a more in depth Air Assault school. So you’ll have an easier time picking up that knowledge. Airborne won’t really help you except to visualize and make real world application of the material. Jumpmaster gives you an even deeper understanding of some of those topics. But even with all of that, I still had a harder time than some of the guys who had never been to any of them. Bottom line, just go for it!
Do you need to be double-stacked to get it?
I’ll be starting the course next week in Banning. Are the tests multiple choice, write in, or both.
Thanks for the good information, leave June 9th for school in Oregon. I'll update you when I complete, hopefully!
good luck, im in the class right before that one in oklahoma in april
I leave for it in three weeks, it will be my first school and I’m a specialist. Already studying now
In the course now, sling load test tomorrow!!
yo bro how’d it go?
I’m so salty about pathfinder school.
My MOS 15u/67u is basically pathfinder exclusive and we have billets for pathfinders in most every chinook unit. I found this out and did the work to get into pathfinder school. I had the orders cut but my regimental commander stopped me from going because he held a grudge. He said that we didn’t need it and I got sent to loadmaster school instead. I STILL hold that grudge and it’s been over 20 years.
I was out of the army for years when I read somewhere that Air Assault School is the "ten toughest days in the army". I spit my beer out laughing. Whoever came up with that lie had never been to ranger school...and I went when there was still a desert phase. Former Cco 509th Pathfinders.
1987 graduate. My how things have changed!
I left Campbell with only AirAssault , but I plan on going if I go back to Campbell .
When did black hats start in PF units
I can’t find any videos that go over how to do HLZ and DZ math... I’m going to Pathfinder 13-Jan. It would be awesome to see a video for that. I can find plenty of sling load videos. (This is a good video and information by the way)
It’s just overwhelming and I would really worry about it until you get there.
See you there Eddie
Is there a pathfinder course at fort Bragg?
Not that I know of. Only ones I know of are through the WTC at Benning and through the 101st on Campbell.
They do an MTT there sometimes
I’m only here to listen to Cole’s voice sooth me to sleep.
I just subscribed, informative vid.
Did they shut down the pathfinder school?
so the 1-507th PIR (same unit that puts on Airborne School) stopped conducting Pathfinder school. Now it’s only the Warrior Training Center. They’re also based on Fort Benning, but they’re National Guard guys mainly doing Mobile Training Teams, basically traveling around putting on different courses around the world. The only way to get Pathfinder now is through the WTC.
Fort campbell still going strong with pathfinder monthly. Going to be a walk on tomorrow 31 may.
@@jansruiz4655 good! I think it’s stupid they’re pushing so hard to shut the school down.
@@NemeanIndustries from my understanding they want it to make it more like jumpmaster.
Air assault is now required before attending.
Also at Ft Campbell so many want to go, they have developed an OML. They stopped taking drop off at TSAAS.
Classes gets full very quickly limiting the slots even more. Yet, still gets full.
@@jansruiz4655 that’s wild. I went through late last year with the WTC on Benning, and the instructors there were saying that there was still a big push to shut it down. If anything, they should shut down Air Assault before Pathfinder in my opinion. I’m just glad I got to go before anything dumb happens.
Was hoping to find PF study guide on YT cause I'm literally going tomorrow.
They’ll give you everything you need when you get there. Like I said in the video, if you get everything before you go, it would probably do more harm than good.
@Nemean Industries we are GRF rn and I haven't made time to study the Nomenclatures and I got told earlier today and by your video there's a test day 1 so yeah.... 🙃 studying the Nomenclatures time now.
@@AznsrFUNNY yeah dude just focus on nomenclature for right now, that’s all you need to know! Good luck!
@Nemean Industries Day one complete!! Nomenclature test tomorrow!! Feeling good about the test so far. Studying all day yesterday helped a loooooot.
Thanks for sharing your experience just wanted give an update.
@@AznsrFUNNY how did it go?
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