This is why players tend to reset their console rather than restarting via the in-game pause menu. It makes each attempt slower but you don’t have the risk of the NPCs gaining sentience. Honestly something he should’ve figured out before doing his run.
Yeah but this specific game bugs out upon console reset. It thinks this is your first time every playing, so you can't skip the dialogue. This hinders time significantly, as it's started when you start a new run.
I mean I bet most runs are relaxing for her seeing people light up with excitement or nostalgia getting the sword, its the challenge runners that would piss her off
"So we plug in this new cardridge, and we're good to go!" "At long last. We're saved." "Skip" "Good, this will shave a few seconds of my playerkill% run!"
"Kid, if you want to trigger the credit roll, just press up and enter at the title screen, it's right there on the menu 'Roll Credits'. There, a zero second speed run."
Yeah, you're supposed to take out the RAM battery every 3 consecutive attempts. I heard there's a mod kit now that adds a 'reset' like switch to make that part easier. It's part of the Midnight Any% category where you start at midnight and keep the time going between resets.
You'll just wipe their consciousness once you stop feeding the system power so not to worry. Be careful with games that write data outside of RAM though.
This is why I don't mind when people use the "cage AI" hack, but it is technically banned in this speedrun record, as it slightly speeds up the frame rate when the AI doesn't achieve sentience, so...
I just love the idea of game programmers creating AI sentience, just through accidental glitches. "Boss, the game's ready to ship, but ah, it _turns_ out a few of the NPCs _will_ become self-aware if the player resets too much in a short amount of time." "Baah, no time to fix that. Besides, who's going to do that anyway?"
Read up on "Ghosts in the code". Basically, errors in substantially large enough and complex software can cause strange behaviors outside of the scope of the software.
Reminds me of Half-life speedrun strats that write comedy by themselves. I mean, beat NPC on the head with bookshelves to make them move faster? That makes sense and makes it hilarious.
No, that quote is from Soren Johnson[1], famous 4X designer, when Molyneux makes quotes it's not about game design, it's headlines material to oversell his next game. [1] Game Developer magazine issue of march 2011
Love how you nailed what a cutscene would be like, with the repeated dialogue and skip surrounding only an early part of the conversation! Felt very accurate, and that always makes these great!
You can actually use a pot to help get into the void space if you smash one while facing to the right of the first npc. The animation sends your character a step backwards into the wall, you just got to b hop at the same time you do it. I know it's pretty hard to do so most speed runners don't try it but it could save up to 2 seconds in the run.
@@jcdenton2187 That's also the reason why Door Monster skits take so much more time than VLDL's, which are insanely short and are based around a simple running gag and their characters. Once you know the formula, you know what to laugh at... Again and again
"why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food" Wise and thought-provoking words from Garfplex in the twitch chat, lol XD
Jokes on her, his tactic was to aggro the NPC all along, which triggers a 0.01% chance of being instantly teleported to the final boss and one shotting it.
I saw the stream chat and went back a few seconds and paused so I could read the comments in the stream chat. Then I noticed the scrolling text saying I bet I couldn't pause to read the jokes. I feel very called out right now. XD
Most competitions at a sufficiently high level require a frustrating amount of effort, but the sense of accomplishment of being the best at something can be glorious. Personally, I would not enjoy speedrunning, but I can get the appeal of succeeding at something difficult.
This game clearly makes a bad speedrun, at least in the any% glitched category. If the random chance of getting the correct result is too small, the category won't be run, especially if the wrong result even once is a run killer.
@@reubenoakley8967 I'm not fully informed on the intricacies of BA and RBA, but I can't see much randomness in it. Which item corresponds to which bottle contents is kinda arbitrary, but not random in a gameplay/coding sense. A better example would probably be Minecraft, which is a very random game that people still run. (Although fewer people run random seed on versions with a greater reliance on randomness in the speedrun.)
the fastest way isn't always the most run, like for minecraft both random and set seed are a lot more runned on glitchless, because glitched run is just boring.
@@booketoiles1600 The fastest isn't always the most run, but it IS still going to be run. SOMEONE will do it, especially someone who's specifically trying to get a world record, as in this video.
I expected from the name, that it would be about a robber who used sequence breaking to get into parts of the game they shouldn't, to steal stuff. Kinda want to see that version of the sketch now
The real question is how is he supposed to turn the butterfly net into both an offhand glaive and a stat boosting earring when he skips into the end credits in the first room
I feel like doing sketches that someone asked for is cool for the supporters yet a bit limiting for the creativeness of Door Monster. But i gotta say, this was really good
While all the joke ideas are there, I find its really missing the trademark "snappy back-and-forth Door Monster rythm" in the last couple of sketches :/
Same here I've got this sneaking suspicion that it might have something to do with Kyle maybe not being as involved in these as usual Honestly, without him, these sketches just lack something
I believe everyone is in favor of a healthier Kyle, yes :) Doesnt stop us from giving feedback to the rest of the team so they know when there is space for improvement :)
I'm always annoyed by the "speedrunners skip the game" joke. It's just not true, you have to LOVE a game and know EVERYTHING about it in order to speedrun. You think someone who didn't love playing twilight princess could have figured out that the "new item" animation was missing a frame which causes link to slide backwards ever so slightly and if you position him right when you pick something up and wait a few hours he will clip through walls? You would have to be obessive about a game to even want to do a run that required you to set the controller down for hours, and hit the button at the right second afterwards.
There are different kinds of speedrunners, as I see it.. Sure, a number of them are genuine fans, but there are also a lot of them who are completely indifferent to what game they're speedrunning. People with an interest in bragging rights, a sense of accomplishment, leaderboards, etc.. They'll either explore a game for glitches/bugs/efficiency based on that or look up what fans of the game have figured out.. They just have a different kind of obsession.
I would love to see a collaboration between you guys and Viva La Dirt League. I know the style of your videos are different and they all live in New Zealand so I don't know how feasible a colab would be but it would hands down be the greatest thing ever.
This was good, but it would have been even more awesome if she opened his door and ran him through with the sword as he was talking to his viewers. You already broke the 4th wall. Might as well break the 4th dimension too!
This is why players tend to reset their console rather than restarting via the in-game pause menu. It makes each attempt slower but you don’t have the risk of the NPCs gaining sentience. Honestly something he should’ve figured out before doing his run.
But then the console might gain sentience.
@@georgelionon9050 That's why you buy a new console for every run.
@@georgelionon9050 Yeah.. Can you believe that isn't even covered by warranty?
Yeah but this specific game bugs out upon console reset. It thinks this is your first time every playing, so you can't skip the dialogue. This hinders time significantly, as it's started when you start a new run.
Truth 🤣
Incredible Sentience% run, I look forward to seeing the progression of this category
I don't think I've seen Sasquatch here in a long time
I wonder if they and The Collective still post on every video
Dude. I freaking love any%. My new favorite is the new Paper Mario run where you start playing Ocarina of Time
The return of the king
Jokes on him: The sword weighs exactly the same as 16 coins.
Well that's useless because he needs exactly 16 florens, not coins.
Yeah but it takes 3 seconds longer to grab the sword rather than just breaking the pot so it's an unviable route
Dude, I was going to say the same thing.
@@Nuclearburrit0 1.3 actually
@@Nuclearburrit0 But it takes more time to restart the sequence.
The fact that she remembers every single run must be hell for her.
I mean I bet most runs are relaxing for her seeing people light up with excitement or nostalgia getting the sword, its the challenge runners that would piss her off
Four and a half billion years...
"So we plug in this new cardridge, and we're good to go!"
"At long last. We're saved."
"Skip"
"Good, this will shave a few seconds of my playerkill% run!"
"Kid, if you want to trigger the credit roll, just press up and enter at the title screen, it's right there on the menu 'Roll Credits'. There, a zero second speed run."
And after that, he swapped over to 100% speedruns. Makes the characters so much happier.
but he still let the animals die
lol
Game must be a nightmare to run where too many attempts lead to sentience
Yeah, you're supposed to take out the RAM battery every 3 consecutive attempts. I heard there's a mod kit now that adds a 'reset' like switch to make that part easier. It's part of the Midnight Any% category where you start at midnight and keep the time going between resets.
You'll just wipe their consciousness once you stop feeding the system power so not to worry.
Be careful with games that write data outside of RAM though.
This is why I don't mind when people use the "cage AI" hack, but it is technically banned in this speedrun record, as it slightly speeds up the frame rate when the AI doesn't achieve sentience, so...
Clint stevens would not be happy. Or maybe he would. Idk.
I just love the idea of game programmers creating AI sentience, just through accidental glitches.
"Boss, the game's ready to ship, but ah, it _turns_ out a few of the NPCs _will_ become self-aware if the player resets too much in a short amount of time."
"Baah, no time to fix that. Besides, who's going to do that anyway?"
Read up on "Ghosts in the code". Basically, errors in substantially large enough and complex software can cause strange behaviors outside of the scope of the software.
Spoilers for free guy
So basically guy's evolution
@@toxica03
Might wanna add a few more line breaks there. Ain't much of a warning if the spoiler is immediately after the warning.
@@Meteorite_Shower sorry
@@toxica03
It's cool, all good. 👍
"I'm vary talented at trying"
I'm gonna put that on my CV.
Might want to invest in a spellchecker first. Lmao.
Oh hey the faun make-up is back. I remain impressed by it.
Me too
same. it's very cute!
Adorable.
Such a girl comment.
Reminds me of Half-life speedrun strats that write comedy by themselves. I mean, beat NPC on the head with bookshelves to make them move faster? That makes sense and makes it hilarious.
If Gordon Freeman came running towards me swinging a bookshelf, you can bet your ass i'd be running
Multiple world records & didn't even know this cutscene had a skip button.
This guy's goood
I like it that the player and the character are played by different people.
I knew something was different but I only realized it at the end.
Ingenious idea indeed.
As great Peter Molyneux once said: "Player will optimize the fun OUT of the game." I always catch myself on that. T_T
"Why are you running ice damage wizard noob? Everyone knows its DPS is 5.0% slower than fire damage wizard".
@@arat2376 yeah, but not everything is immune to it so…
Yea
@@arat2376 Omg. Flashbacks to WoW BC times...
No, that quote is from Soren Johnson[1], famous 4X designer, when Molyneux makes quotes it's not about game design, it's headlines material to oversell his next game.
[1] Game Developer magazine issue of march 2011
"Do we even need human players?" xD I loved that!
Love how you nailed what a cutscene would be like, with the repeated dialogue and skip surrounding only an early part of the conversation! Felt very accurate, and that always makes these great!
You can actually use a pot to help get into the void space if you smash one while facing to the right of the first npc. The animation sends your character a step backwards into the wall, you just got to b hop at the same time you do it. I know it's pretty hard to do so most speed runners don't try it but it could save up to 2 seconds in the run.
I appreciate how their patreon model includes "give us sketch ideas and pay us for doing it." XD Like, amazing.
Cartridges gaining sentience isn't particularly abnormal anymore. Remember Squire?
I do I remember squire
@@lucasisofdarkness5423 We both remember Squire in that case
cheers!
What?
Yeah no we're gonna need someone to unpack that a little bit.
This is making me wish a Door Monster / Epic NPC Man collaboration was possible it would be so good!
As fans of both channels, I feel like Door Monster would really spice up VLDL's very repetitive skits. I'd love a crossover episode!
@@jcdenton2187 yeah, VLDL doesn't have nearly as many twists as Door Monster.
@@jcdenton2187 That's also the reason why Door Monster skits take so much more time than VLDL's, which are insanely short and are based around a simple running gag and their characters.
Once you know the formula, you know what to laugh at... Again and again
Uh.
Somebody call Kyle this sketch has gone sentient...
Like the others....
"why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food" Wise and thought-provoking words from Garfplex in the twitch chat, lol XD
Jokes on her, his tactic was to aggro the NPC all along, which triggers a 0.01% chance of being instantly teleported to the final boss and one shotting it.
"I am very talented at trying!" XD
I saw the stream chat and went back a few seconds and paused so I could read the comments in the stream chat. Then I noticed the scrolling text saying I bet I couldn't pause to read the jokes. I feel very called out right now. XD
5:00 at this point I would expect she say "this sword was carefully designed pixel by pixel, atom by atom to cost exactly 16 florins on sell"
That is a meta as hell ending.
Most competitions at a sufficiently high level require a frustrating amount of effort, but the sense of accomplishment of being the best at something can be glorious. Personally, I would not enjoy speedrunning, but I can get the appeal of succeeding at something difficult.
I love that the release is perfectly timed with the Boba Skip discovery!
DOOR MONSTER UPLOADED! Today is a great day!
Even better, VLDL AND DOOR MINSTER UPLOADED ON THE SAME DAY, ITS AN AMAZING DAY
The title alone on this video is impressive on this one, it helps that the video itself is really entertaining. Love your stuff as always DoorMonster!
Speedrun Mario is still 4 parallel universes ahead.
A sword of evil smiting that's dishwasher safe? Well if he doesn't want it, I'll take it!
This game clearly makes a bad speedrun, at least in the any% glitched category. If the random chance of getting the correct result is too small, the category won't be run, especially if the wrong result even once is a run killer.
Unless it happens to be the absolute fastest way to complete the game, like the bottle adventure in OOT
@@reubenoakley8967
I'm not fully informed on the intricacies of BA and RBA, but I can't see much randomness in it. Which item corresponds to which bottle contents is kinda arbitrary, but not random in a gameplay/coding sense.
A better example would probably be Minecraft, which is a very random game that people still run. (Although fewer people run random seed on versions with a greater reliance on randomness in the speedrun.)
the fastest way isn't always the most run, like for minecraft both random and set seed are a lot more runned on glitchless, because glitched run is just boring.
@@booketoiles1600
Very true. Perhaps the glitchless run of Door Monster's game is a better speedrun.
@@booketoiles1600 The fastest isn't always the most run, but it IS still going to be run. SOMEONE will do it, especially someone who's specifically trying to get a world record, as in this video.
Door Monster, thanks for making my day
The NPCs are catching up!
So *that's* what happened to the 24 hour live stream and why no one talks about it...
Taking the sword would require the A-button getting pressed, we can't have that
"I have one job in this damn game and I'm gonna do it!"
Honestly the way she stared into the camera at the end spooked me a bit. Well done!
I thought there might be a plot twist ending that she was the player trying to get the player to take the sword to trigger a speed run glitch.
I was waiting for her to give him the sword anyway - by stabbing it into his chest.
I knew this day would come. Everyone hide!
Her makeup was so freaking cute. She better had been a secret unlockable companion!
I expected from the name, that it would be about a robber who used sequence breaking to get into parts of the game they shouldn't, to steal stuff.
Kinda want to see that version of the sketch now
The real question is how is he supposed to turn the butterfly net into both an offhand glaive and a stat boosting earring when he skips into the end credits in the first room
The speedrun chat at the end is so good
"But Ian, I wanted THAT shirt specifically!" On a real side note, I wonder how much actual props from your skits could auction for?
I can't unsee the Master Sword, that's going to bother me all video, isn't it?
that was also my first thought
Inaccurate, the NPC isn't talking in German (Saves 1.3 seconds)
Free Girl, in theatres when the Delta Variant is done
I would have loved it if he needed her to hit him to activate a specific glitch for the speedrun.
I feel like doing sketches that someone asked for is cool for the supporters yet a bit limiting for the creativeness of Door Monster. But i gotta say, this was really good
Ah yes, the Twilight Princess ruppee slide that takes 5 hours.
So THAT'S how Epic NPC (wo)man was "born"!
Lot the last comment popping up on the twitch chat was a cherry on top XD, "what did I miss?"
"Commenting for-"
"Skip."
If you skip to 7:16 you can speedrun this video with 100% efficiency. (watch it once for the story though!)
[Player] Skip!
[NPC] 😯
While all the joke ideas are there, I find its really missing the trademark "snappy back-and-forth Door Monster rythm" in the last couple of sketches :/
Same here
I've got this sneaking suspicion that it might have something to do with Kyle maybe not being as involved in these as usual
Honestly, without him, these sketches just lack something
I don't mind, Kyle seems like the type of guy to stretch himself thin on multiple projects
I'd rather have a few weaker sketches than a burned out Kyle. So be it.
I believe everyone is in favor of a healthier Kyle, yes :)
Doesnt stop us from giving feedback to the rest of the team so they know when there is space for improvement :)
@@GregorifElfeNoir oh certainly. And you're not a dīck about it 👍🏻
The comments on the stream are amazing
I'm always annoyed by the "speedrunners skip the game" joke. It's just not true, you have to LOVE a game and know EVERYTHING about it in order to speedrun. You think someone who didn't love playing twilight princess could have figured out that the "new item" animation was missing a frame which causes link to slide backwards ever so slightly and if you position him right when you pick something up and wait a few hours he will clip through walls? You would have to be obessive about a game to even want to do a run that required you to set the controller down for hours, and hit the button at the right second afterwards.
then explain the "donkey kong champion"
@@RobeonMew the guy who faked the high score, wrote s book about it and sold hotsauce because he is "so cool?"
You see, some people... are assholes.
Ok game skipper
You know that trick was discovered by accident because one guy left his console on and saw that link glitched into a chest
There are different kinds of speedrunners, as I see it.. Sure, a number of them are genuine fans, but there are also a lot of them who are completely indifferent to what game they're speedrunning. People with an interest in bragging rights, a sense of accomplishment, leaderboards, etc.. They'll either explore a game for glitches/bugs/efficiency based on that or look up what fans of the game have figured out.. They just have a different kind of obsession.
I feel like this is putting legit shade on speedrunners
Wait if you're jumping straight to the credits then when do you even do the glitch with the butterfly net?!
Post game. The credit warp just removes the barrier around the castle so you can fight the secret super boss and get the true ending.
"I knew this day would come everyone hide" :))))
shoulda said "but that's alright, I already wiped it clean and starting again"
I must have missed this one when it dropped!
Speedruns, but NPC is selfaware
Looks like Rachel has been snorting whole lumps of charcoal from the fireplace again..
.. and eating them!
"Get-murdered-by-friendly-npc%"
I would love to see a collaboration between you guys and Viva La Dirt League. I know the style of your videos are different and they all live in New Zealand so I don't know how feasible a colab would be but it would hands down be the greatest thing ever.
something important is happening between 10AM-NOON CST according to the scrolling text at the end
I’m pretty sure this is how real life wizardry works
Ill stay up any night for doormonstet
Every copy of Legend of Zelda is personified.
Dishwasher safe seems like a pretty good feature.
But is the dishwasher sword safe?
I love this one so much
Was expecting her to burst through the door at the end unfriended style
Can't wait for the edge meter person to stop by
I feel door monster's conversational style isn't that conducive to speedrunning sketches.
Joel Haver nailed the correct level of awkward and jank for a video about speed runs.
That ending. I'm dying. Omg.
DANG IT JOEL CHECK THE VODS!
A quite perceptive insight into speedrunning.
Am speedrunner, can confirm.
yes they are self-aware!!!
Wonderfully specific. And holy shit you have that satyr make-up just nailed at this point.
Reminds me of Viva La Dirt League's Epic Npc Man. Wish y'all weren't so far away from each other, I would love to see a collaboration.
My sheep have run amok... nod if you understand
Thanks for this video ;) .
Loved the Mugiwara Pirates Jolly roger
This was good, but it would have been even more awesome if she opened his door and ran him through with the sword as he was talking to his viewers. You already broke the 4th wall. Might as well break the 4th dimension too!
When I heard Florans I was thinking about the Starbound plant people
Huh, never thought I would see the beginning of Reboot.
so that's how Tron started
He's speed speaking!
My sheep have run amok adventurer, and you are going to find them and return them safely. Nod if you understand me
Bow down to our ai overlords
Speed runners be like…
Another great one!
Ai is self aware!!