It was a few sleepless nights thinking of whether I should jump ship fully onto ML with EOS M. The main concern is External Monitor setting with crop mood. I literally searching for answers a minute before you published this video It seem like you read my mind Sergio 😂 Thank you!!!
Crop mood has changed my mood and revolutionised how I work with the EOS-M. I use almost exactly the same methods except I use INFO for 10x and SET for false color. Other than that my workflow is identical even down to how I use Magic Zoom. Great video Sergio, thank you. Contenuti eccellenti ancora una volta.
yes the chapter regarding custom buttons is only to explain how they work. In the video I used my settings only for convenience but everyone, once understood the mechanism, will customize the buttons in the way that is most convenient for him. Thanks again for your words!!
I use info for 10x, set for dual ISO, and half shutter hold for raw preview. Double press half shutter for Auto ETTR. This video definitely got me up to speed before finding out these settings for my liking.
THIS IS SO HELPFUL! I can not figure out why I can't change the aperture with the left-right arrow custom button. But now I know you would need to press the right arrow and then scroll to achieve changing aperture on an electronic lens! Thanks again! Love from Los Angeles!
Thanks!! to be honest I don't know how to do a download file with my setting. But following my previous video and this actual video you can set your camera without any problem.
Hey Sergio! I am absolutely in love with all your work here! ... definately makes me want to get into film making too... I got me a EOS M too now with some vintage Lenses.. the only issue for me is that I cant run Magic Lantern on it since it has firmware 2.0.3. already installed... is there any way to downgrade the firmware back to 2.0.2? ... Im desperate for help and I cant find any good solutions for this anywhere
ok, yes yo can downgrade to 2.0.2 firmware and you must do it if you want run Magic Lantern on your EOSM. There is a 2.0.2 version for windows and a version for Mac. What operating system do you use?
@@russo-filmmaking Im using windows... I already downloaded the 2.0.2 Firmware already but I dont really know how to downgrade/install it on my camera and I am actually a little scared it could damage my camera.. I have never done anything like this before
I'm a Mac users, I think the process is the same. Here is a generic video on how to install a firmware on canon camera, the process is the same for all the canon cameras. . you can follow the steps. ruclips.net/video/dp6Th_704vc/видео.html
@serrus71 oh, I see! Thanks. I used to have the BMCCP 4K with a complete set of the Rokinon lenses. But what attracts me more about your videos with the EOS M is the skintones. It looks like color science coming straight from an Arri Alexa Classic. And that's Mind-blowing to me. I guess my question is, do you think the EOS M can be a better story telling camera for indie filmmaking than the blackmagic?
@@0800filmez Both are equal, yo can use the one that you like. The most important thing is not the camera itself but the story, the lighting and a good color grading
@serrus71 yeah, definitely. I have to admit I really don't think they are equal in image quality. I never felt the "arri" look on the skin tone using blackmagic. But with the EOS M i have this perception tho
Hey Sergio, You a super good guy on EOS-M. Is HDMI video capture device used in this video? What are the best ML settings for external External monitor? Thanks for good videos.
Thanks!! Yes on the EOS M we have a mini HDMI so you have to buy a HDMI cable and an adaptor mini HDMI to HDMI. There are no setting for an external monitor: with crop mood you only have to connect the monitor and it's all.
@@russo-filmmaking Thanx Sergio. It is working now with Ninja Shogun 7 directly and on mobile phone with HDMI capture device. I can record even on Ninja and on mobile phone too. Fantastic!
I have been keenly watching the developments of the EOS M on your channel. Do you have any idea if the Atomos Ninja V can be used with this setup? I saw lots of complaints about it online.
Hello Sergio great video!! I have a question it’s just my version or some setting that I skipped, but I’m not able to play the footage in the camera, it just play a black screen with the timing running but not video.
Thanks!! I use Sandisk Extreme Pro 170MB, I suggest you get 250gb or 512gb. The Sandisk Extreme Pro 200MB version also works. There are other cards that works well but Sandisk Extreme Pro is highly proven. Only be sure that it's an original one because there are a lot of imitation
Thanks!! I always set more hacks to on and I don’t turn to off because doing this when you film with high resolutions or HFR, the camera start to be unstable generating in some cases pink frame
Thanks for the video. I have a question. If the focus mode is set to AF and you use half-shutter to autofocus, then you start shooting, then you point the camera at something else - will the camera keep the focus you set, or will it attempt to autofocus on the new subject?
You can use the camera in all those projects where you have the possibility to repeat a scene if it is necessary: music videos, commercials, socials, short movies, documentaries or independent feature movies. There are many examples in the canon eos M community of people who use this camera for paid work. You need to master very well this camera, you have to master pulling manually the focus, and it takes a few weeks of practice and dedications. If you work with weddings, events or concerts I do not recommend it as a main camera but it would be an excellent B-Roll camera. Remember that it is an old camera, so the problem is not the actual software (the crop mood) which now is very stable, but the camera itself that could stop working due to problems of natural wear as it happens in all old cameras. So if you buy it look for a very good condition camera.
What crop mood version are you using? There are two version. In the first one you can’t customize the buttons. In the last one you can do it. Last version is the April 18th version
I'm using an Android phone as external monitor , but in a bright sun day I cant see very well the screen. what do you do in this case? I'm thinking to add a matte screen protector to avoid reflections
You can try to make a DYI monitor hood for your cell. I think that it's the only solution. I use a feelworld Lut7 Pro /2200nits external monitor. It's very bright and I can see clearly the image even in a very sunny day.
Linear scales have consistent measures between different points, whereas logarithmic scales have progressing measurements between points. In the first case the values between two consecutive points on the line doesn't change, no matter how high or low you are. While Log is based on exponents, and the value between two consecutive points not only changes, but also has a distinct pattern. Eos M Raw is Linear and doesn't have any logarithmic modification
@@russo-filmmaking ok, thank you for the explanation, very helpful 👍 my histogram was set to log, but now linear, and l hope it helps me with better exposure.
when I zoom in and then press half shutter doesn't do nothing... (actually sometimes works the autofocus if I zoom and then hold left arrow) ....if I press half shutter without the zoom I get the frame that would actually come out.... I believe am using the same canon lenses as you in this video... I wonder Is it possible to autofocus during recording?
When you finish recording, does the monitor screen turn off and on? I'm currently using an Osee lilmon5 ans every time after a shot is done, the screen goes black and then back on
When I turn on the camera and then turn on the monitor sometime the monitor is black. Sometime the same happens when I turn off the monitor and the camera display appears black. When it happens I press the zoom button (that in my case it's the set button on the camera) and it fix it. Try to do the same when you finish recording if the monitor turn black. Never it append to me when I finish recording.
With the latest crop mood modified by Danne, you can use the auto focus function. But it’s very bad and slow . So if you use the eos M or other cameras with magic lantern you have to learn to pool manually focus like people do when shoot movies. You can use magic zoom during recording or assign focus aid (present in the Danne Crop Mood version) to the shutter for focusing while recording
Ciao Sergio, hai per caso provato ad utilizzare un cellulare come monitor? pensavo di usare il mio vecchio iphone come mini monitor esterno per quando ho il rig montato. Grazie ^^
Ciao, il sito ML da vari anni non ha aggiornato nessuna build. Quelle che mette a disposizione hanno un sacco di problemi e sono molto instabili. Negli ultimi anni le migliori versioni sono state sviluppate da Danne, pero quest'ultima versione che si chiama Crop Mood sviluppata de Bilal é in assoluto la più´stabile e a portato la canon EOSM, la 700D, la 650D e la 100D ad un'altro livello. Questo é il link da cui puoi scaricare la ultima versione per la M che é quella del 9 maggio e si chiama magiclantern-crop-mood.2023May09.EOSM202 bitbucket.org/bilal_fakhouri/crop-mood-builds/downloads/?fbclid=IwAR1t_SxgeiEvlQN7RSWuaPiXR8C8cIeM4qhP4AO5Ox1iXrnQoqzBUYVLP7k
@@russo-filmmaking aaah ecco perché! Meta' degli youtuber dice che e' fantastica, altri dicono l'opposto ahah Io ne avevo scaricato una dal sito ufficiale, ma avevo il bug sull'half shutter (crash) e problemi di preview. Oltre a problemi di buffer, questi ultimi ho appena capito - dopo aver fatto vari test con Blackmagic test - che erano dovuti ad alcune SD card che non mantenevano ed andavano a 15MB/s in scrittura
Hello Sergio, a question about the Canon EOS M. About the anamorphic crop mode, are you satisfied about the sharpness of this setting with this camera. I work with the Canon 5DMark3, the recorded resolution with the anamorphic mode is 1920-2340 and stretched 5740-2340. The picture itself looks fine, but I find the sharpness not brilliant. The details are far from sharp. thanks again Richard
Sharpness also depends a lot of the lens you use. Moreover when I shoot with the EOS M I don't pay much attention to it because finally a get a sharp image through my workflow. I can match my M to the BMPCC 4K and make it more sharper than the Pocket 4k .In same case I use Topaz Ai which give me incredible results (you have to know how to use it correctly in order to not generate artifacts). If you look at the final footage with a more sophisticated color grade (whatch it in 4k) at the end of the my video, that image is very very sharp.
@@russo-filmmaking Thank's again for your answer. Indeed it's very sharp the last image. You mean the shot of the women (your wife) with the dog I guess. Was this recorded in 1080P and upscaled? Because the Canon EOS M can not record this resolution with 16-9. The aspect ratio with 4K is 1:2.39 with the Canon EOS M I thought. sorry for all these questions, but its very interesting. greetings Richard
@@richardrem with crop mood you can know shoot (1x3) 4.2K 16:9 1376x2322 (2.03x crop), and this is my favorite 16:9 mode. I filmed the video using it. So the final resolution was 4,128 x 2322 and I downscaled it to 3840x2160. You can also shoot (1x3) UHD 16:9 1280x2160 (2.18x crop). I prefer 4.2K because more resolution and less crop.
Autofocus when recording is possible with Danne build (the ML version before Crop Mood) but it’s very slow and not precise in many cases. You can use autofocus before recording as I explained in my video.
1x3 and 1:1 modes don’t have aliasing an moire but have problems with rolling shutter. On the other side 3x3 modes generate in some cases aliasing and moire but they dont’t have rolling shutter problems . My preferred modes are 1x3 modes: for 2.35:1 aspect ratio I use 4.8k 14-12 bit depending of light conditions and for 16:9 aspect ratio I use 4.2k 14bit. 2.5k or 2.8k have a sharper image but crop factor is more than 3x
@@toxotis70 please check my previous video where I talk deeply about all the mods and how to get the best of each of theme setting the correct bit-depth. In that video I talk about the crop factor of both 4.8k and 4.2 k
@@_joshuacray I would use 2 options: 1) set crop mood to 3x3 1080p 16:9 14bit, then after refresh with the menu button, in raw tab select under aspect ratio 4:3 and under resolution rotating the wheel select 1152x1160. With this method you'll get 4:3 continuous recording, and you have to set kill global draw to off because otherwise you will not be able to see correctly the 4:3 framing. 2) the second method is the one I prefer because has more quality and less aliasing: use the setting for 1x3 4.2k 16:9 14bit that I explained in the video (leave kill global draw to on) and then in post-production crop sideways the image to get 4:3 aspect ratio. You'll get continuos recording, no aliasing, more quality. I shot a horror short film with this last method which I'll soon upload in my channel
Unsure if you’ve had this issue, but in all modes the live view is frozen for me, if it’s cropped or zoomed in however it seems fine? Do you know of a fix for this?
What crop mood are you using, what resolution or aspect ratio? did you have switched from AF to MF in the canon Menu? and did you have set AF Method as Flexizone Wide (the one which is in the middle) as I explained in the video?
@@russo-filmmaking I’ve mostly used 4.8k 2.35:1, have tried with 5.2k and 4.4K as well, the AF is set to wide and manual and crop mood is the latest build
With the setting you have, camera works amazing for me without any problem. So I suggest to format again your sd card in your computer. I always use ExFat. Then copy again the last Bilal build on your card and install it on your EOS M. And follow all the correct steps. This have to solve your problem, if not something wrong is in your canon settings. And other question is what SD card do you use?
@@russo-filmmaking I have a UHS-II samsung sd card, however i seem to have found the issue, when fps override is enabled it's frozen, when it's disabled it's not
@@ryzechdev perfect👍, never touching fps override with this build. As I suggest in my previous video we have to stay only with the crop mood presets to get the best of this build
Hi, thank you for this useful video. I have problems with the buttons, L/R supposed to control aperture. It doesn't work for me. I am using a Canon pancake 22mm f2. Any suggestions welcome. And if I only roll the wheel the shutter speed doesn't change too... My shutter lock in settings is OFF.
if you set the buttons as in my video L/R works if you hold and press the R wheel for a moment before to roll it. I explain it in my video. I don't own a 22mm pancake so I don't know why you can't change the shutter, scrolling the wheel. It works with all my lenses. Have you tried with another lens? Is your wheel working properly? sometime buttons and wheel have to be change because they died
@@russo-filmmaking Thank you. I double checked but it still doesn't work for me. I don't have any other lens to check with. I started EOS M in normal mode (without ML Crop Mood), pressing the set button. In the original Canon mode, the wheel is working and the left/right buttons of the wheel too. So I guess I missed a setting in ML somewhere.
@@russo-filmmaking I am still stuck with the left/right buttons not working for me. However, I noticed that once I set up L/R buttons as in your videos, instead of changing aperture, it changes what is indicated by the red arrow in the following screenshot: pic.infini.fr/XsPp9k12/J4M4iPkk.jpg
Yes, but not continuos autofocus. As I explain in the video you point your subject, half clik the shutter button to activate the autofocus in your Electronic lens and then start to film. Follow the steps in the video to activate the correct settings in the canon menu
Hola solo la puedes encontrar usada. Lo más fácil es en ebay.com. Hay bastantes eos M provenientes de Japón. El solo cuerpo ronda al rededor de usd 200, mientras el cuerpo con un kit lens y algunos accesorio puede variar entre usd 250-300 + costo de envio. Considera que a ese precio al momneto de la importación tienes que anexar el Iva de tu país y eventuales aranceles, subiendo el precio de aprox un 25-35%. También en el grupo de Facebook "mlv raw on EOS M" a veces alguno miembros venden su EOS M.
Check this video to see what resolution you can get with the EOS M and Magic Lantern Crop mood, and their limitation ruclips.net/video/EPFWQwXLr4A/видео.html This is a 14 old camera, which was mainly created for pictures and not for video, so you can´t get true 4K. But if you learn how to use it, you can get better quality footages than a lot of 4K cameras.
Hola Sergio, Tengo una cuestión que no doy solucionado, en modo vídeo no soy capaz de cambiar la ISO a modo MANUAL, lo configuro en modo PHOTO pero luego en el modo vídeo vuelve a configurarse en auto. No sé como solucionarlo, de hecho los botones configurables que he puesto como tú has explicado, no responden como mencionas. Puedes ayudarme? Gracias !
Probablemente la camera tiene alguna configuración automática que no permite cambiar el ISO de la camera. Revisa bien en el menu de la canon si no tienes activado algún programa automatico
Please tell me how you got 81MB/s write. My 700D is capable of 240MHZ speeds with SD104 but my Sandisk Extreme Pro 128gb 200mbit/s won't write above 67MB/s speeds
OK. I usually get between 70-80MB/s shooting in high resolution 1x3 and less than 70 MB /s when shooting 3x3. I use Sandisk Extreme Pro Sd Cards (256gb 200 MB/s type) so I can't tell you why you can't exceed 70MB /s. Our cards are the same, only the capacity changes.
Hi, If you are referring to the LP-E12 batteries I'm not sure, cause I've never noticed it and I never took the time or make some test. This is because for my filmmaking style, normally I take little shots and from what I remember I never filmed more than 6-7 minutes without stopping the recording ( and it happens only when I film myself talking in a RUclips video).
@@russo-filmmaking Thanks Serrus, I live stream 3 hours at a time with the yolobox pro. There might be more power options out there. EOS M arriving tomorrow. Perfict for hill walking and live streaming easy to carry and set up. You pointed me in the right direction. Cheers
Imagino que si usas una powerbank la cámara funcionará mejor porque puede usar toda la energía que quiera todo el rato, con las baterías la gasta más rápido porque tiene que llegar a los voltios de entrada
Tengo 8 baterías LP E12 que me vendieron en paquete con la cámara cuando la compré. En promedio duran al rededor de 25-35 min de registracion continua. En un día de tomas no uso mas de dos baterías porque mis tomas son siempre de pocos minutos. No uso power bank, porque es algo mas que tengo que encontrarle espacio en la cámara..... cuando para mi lo padre de esta camera es su portabilidad. A lo mejor acabándose la vida de las baterías que tengo ahora a mi dispocion, usare alguna solución para baterias NP-F como las que uso con mi BMPCC 4K
im using the crop mood from june 2023, when I try to record raw, the playback only shows a black screen. and I can record anything higher than 720p 10 bit raw before it stops recording and empty the buffer
what SD card do you use? are you filming in lossless or uncompressed raw? how disd you set sdoveclock and small hacks? have you set raw quality in the canon menu? and what resolution did you set in the canon menu?
@@russo-filmmaking I don’t know what scared I’m using, I’m trying to film uncompressed raw, I overlock the sd card and I’m using the small hacks, I set the quality to raw on canon. But still dosent work
@@thevrboi sorry I mean SD card (not scared), what Sd card are using. You must to use lossless.It’s impossible to film uncompressed for more than a few seconds. You have to set 14bit lossless under the raw tab and never touch it again. Then when you want to change your color depth you have to do it from the crop mood settings.
I think that you need some interface, but honestly I don't now because I'm a Mac user and never I tried to connect the EOSM to my laptop. Surelly You can get an answer to your question in the Facebook EOSM community facebook.com/groups/mlvraw
Check your exposure, ettr around 0.9-0.1, then be sure your bit depth is set as lossless. Some time People changing their bit depth from the raw tab make the error to select 14-12 bit istead of 14-12 bit lossless and it gives only a few seconds of recording. To avoid this mistake Bit depth must be changed only from de crop mood tab
One of the most important thing when you shoot at high resolution like 5.2k or 4.8k with high bit depth like 14 or 12bit, you have to avoid high contrast scene with very luminosity áreas. So controlling your exposure and the general lighting of your scene it's a very importan factor to get good results. For example If I shoot in exteriors with high luminosity if I'm in 4.8k mode I lower my bit depth to 12bit and in same extreme cases up to 10bit. Latelly I'm shooting 4.6k 2.2:1 aspect ratio with a crop factor of x1.8, and it works very well in 14bit and 12bit in almost all lights conditions.
I don’t know whether to be impressed by the extended functionally Canon built into the EOS M that Magic Lantern unleashed, or to think they should be ashamed that they didn’t exploit it themselves.
1736 x 3 = 5208: the image is anamorphic and you have to de squeeze it by 3, like when you use anamorphic lenses, I explained it in the video where I made a deep test on crop mood
@@russo-filmmaking its still a little strange to me, as I always like to shrink rather than expand footage, and if lines have been thrown away you would think that would be more visible if scaled up. but perhaps not as footage looks ok to me
@@beatskool101the camera, via Magic Lantern, is using a pixel binning method on the sensor to squeeze the image for better image quality. It's quite complex to get your head around but there's lots of info online. Definitely not just resizing the image, it's extremely technical with lots of science going on.
In the video I never said that we can get continuous AF. We can get autofocus with electronic lens before starting recording like I explain in the video, but not continuous AF. Now, I'm not sure because I did't try it yet, but I think that with the latest crop mood modified by Danne we can get continuous AF, even if take in count that continuous AF with magic lantern is slow and very unstable.
It was a few sleepless nights thinking of whether I should jump ship fully onto ML with EOS M. The main concern is External Monitor setting with crop mood.
I literally searching for answers a minute before you published this video
It seem like you read my mind Sergio 😂 Thank you!!!
Thanks!! I'm happy that the video was helpful. This is the idea behind this kind of videos
Wow, this is one of the most helpful tutorial for EOS-M/ML CropMood! I will be bookmarking this video.
Thank for your comment!! I'm glad the video was helpful
Crop mood has changed my mood and revolutionised how I work with the EOS-M. I use almost exactly the same methods except I use INFO for 10x and SET for false color. Other than that my workflow is identical even down to how I use Magic Zoom. Great video Sergio, thank you. Contenuti eccellenti ancora una volta.
yes the chapter regarding custom buttons is only to explain how they work. In the video I used my settings only for convenience but everyone, once understood the mechanism, will customize the buttons in the way that is most convenient for him. Thanks again for your words!!
i use info as dual iso(so amazing), info as false color, and half shutter as 10x. works great for my workflow
I use info for 10x, set for dual ISO, and half shutter hold for raw preview. Double press half shutter for Auto ETTR. This video definitely got me up to speed before finding out these settings for my liking.
Sergio, thanks for continuing Zeek´s work. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!! I love this camera and I’m glade to share what I learned about it
What happened to Zeek?
@@noodlessoul8356 he is still posting on facebook, so I think he just stopped posting youtube.
Nice I was thinking 🤔 about the monitor the other day right timing for this video thanks 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🤓👍🏾#keepfilming
Thanks!! Happy to now that HDMI test was helpful
🙏🏾 Excellent, thanks Sergio!! I deeply appreciate you, my Brother. 🤠
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Thanks!!
Very helpful, Sergio. Very complete. A number of settings I did not know about. Great episode...
Thanks !! Happy you liked it
Best guide I've seen, well done!
Thank you so much!!
THIS IS SO HELPFUL! I can not figure out why I can't change the aperture with the left-right arrow custom button. But now I know you would need to press the right arrow and then scroll to achieve changing aperture on an electronic lens! Thanks again! Love from Los Angeles!
I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks!!
Thank you so much for your time that's really detail explain.
Thank you for watching!!
By far the best ML tutorials, thank you!
Thanks !!
Thanks for this material :) Helped me set up the details on my Canon EOS M :)
Thank you so much for watching!!
awesome , this is super helpful, thank you Sergio
Thanks!!
Great video sir! Fellow crop mood user and I love it
Thanks!!
Thank you Sergio, your on a roll, great videos. What sd card are you using?
Thank you very much!! I use a Sandisk Extreme Pro 170MB /s
Thank you very much ! Fantastic video !
Thank you to watch it!!!
Great work Sergio - straightforward video! Thanks, man! 🙏
Thanks!! Thank you for watching
Excellent video Sergio
thank you for watching!!
Sergio is the new Zeek!
Zeek is irreplaceable, I'm just trying to share what I'm learning about the EOS M
Thank you for making this great content 💪👍 I hope you will share your eos-m settings as a download file.
Thanks!! to be honest I don't know how to do a download file with my setting. But following my previous video and this actual video you can set your camera without any problem.
thanks Sergio, nice vid
Thank you for watching !!!
Sorry, I just read the solution !
good job friend!! it helps us a lot!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey Sergio!
I am absolutely in love with all your work here! ... definately makes me want to get into film making too... I got me a EOS M too now with some vintage Lenses.. the only issue for me is that I cant run Magic Lantern on it since it has firmware 2.0.3. already installed... is there any way to downgrade the firmware back to 2.0.2? ... Im desperate for help and I cant find any good solutions for this anywhere
ok, yes yo can downgrade to 2.0.2 firmware and you must do it if you want run Magic Lantern on your EOSM. There is a 2.0.2 version for windows and a version for Mac. What operating system do you use?
@@russo-filmmaking Im using windows... I already downloaded the 2.0.2 Firmware already but I dont really know how to downgrade/install it on my camera and I am actually a little scared it could damage my camera.. I have never done anything like this before
I'm a Mac users, I think the process is the same. Here is a generic video on how to install a firmware on canon camera, the process is the same for all the canon cameras. . you can follow the steps. ruclips.net/video/dp6Th_704vc/видео.html
very useful, Tanks
Thanks!!
Top Work.
Thank you very much!!
Another brilliant tutorial, mate. Thumbs up!
Thanks!!!
Hello! Amazing content. Do you use the same Canon EOS M for your youtube video, including the intro insert images? Thanks
Thanks!! I generally I use a BMCCP 4K when the EOS M is in the scene and for the footage where I talk
@serrus71 oh, I see! Thanks. I used to have the BMCCP 4K with a complete set of the Rokinon lenses. But what attracts me more about your videos with the EOS M is the skintones. It looks like color science coming straight from an Arri Alexa Classic. And that's Mind-blowing to me.
I guess my question is, do you think the EOS M can be a better story telling camera for indie filmmaking than the blackmagic?
@@0800filmez Both are equal, yo can use the one that you like. The most important thing is not the camera itself but the story, the lighting and a good color grading
@serrus71 yeah, definitely. I have to admit I really don't think they are equal in image quality. I never felt the "arri" look on the skin tone using blackmagic. But with the EOS M i have this perception tho
Hey Sergio, You a super good guy on EOS-M. Is HDMI video capture device used in this video? What are the best ML settings for external External monitor? Thanks for good videos.
Thanks!! Yes on the EOS M we have a mini HDMI so you have to buy a HDMI cable and an adaptor mini HDMI to HDMI. There are no setting for an external monitor: with crop mood you only have to connect the monitor and it's all.
@@russo-filmmaking Thanx Sergio. It is working now with Ninja Shogun 7 directly and on mobile phone with HDMI capture device. I can record even on Ninja and on mobile phone too. Fantastic!
@@hamzayaz The fact that you can record on the Ninja or the mobile is fantastic, it's an extra option we have.
Really fantastic tips and tricks! :)
I'm glad you liked it!
I have been keenly watching the developments of the EOS M on your channel. Do you have any idea if the Atomos Ninja V can be used with this setup? I saw lots of complaints about it online.
Honestly I don't know because I use a Feelworld monitor- But I think that if it works with the feel world monitor it would be work with Atomos Ninja
Hello Sergio great video!! I have a question it’s just my version or some setting that I skipped, but I’m not able to play the footage in the camera, it just play a black screen with the timing running but not video.
What version of crop mood did you istalled?
Sérgio, witch SD card you recommend for this build? And thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks!! I use Sandisk Extreme Pro 170MB, I suggest you get 250gb or 512gb. The Sandisk Extreme Pro 200MB version also works. There are other cards that works well but Sandisk Extreme Pro is highly proven. Only be sure that it's an original one because there are a lot of imitation
@@russo-filmmaking Thanks for the feedback! Greetings from Brazil.
Another absolutely great tutorial!! (Have you tried turning "Hacks" to OFF--supposed to turn on AF.
Thanks!! I always set more hacks to on and I don’t turn to off because doing this when you film with high resolutions or HFR, the camera start to be unstable generating in some cases pink frame
@serrus71 thank you
Thanks for the video. I have a question. If the focus mode is set to AF and you use half-shutter to autofocus, then you start shooting, then you point the camera at something else - will the camera keep the focus you set, or will it attempt to autofocus on the new subject?
Thanks!! the camera will keep the focus, unless you don't change it. Crop mood doesn't allow you to get a continuos autofocus.
@@russo-filmmaking Thanks for the clarification!
Would you say the camera is stable enough to use on paid projects now?
You can use the camera in all those projects where you have the possibility to repeat a scene if it is necessary: music videos, commercials, socials, short movies, documentaries or independent feature movies. There are many examples in the canon eos M community of people who use this camera for paid work. You need to master very well this camera, you have to master pulling manually the focus, and it takes a few weeks of practice and dedications. If you work with weddings, events or concerts I do not recommend it as a main camera but it would be an excellent B-Roll camera. Remember that it is an old camera, so the problem is not the actual software (the crop mood) which now is very stable, but the camera itself that could stop working due to problems of natural wear as it happens in all old cameras. So if you buy it look for a very good condition camera.
Super help full. Thankyou.
Thank you!!
Great stuff!
Thank you!!
Another great tutorial 👍
Thanks !! I'm glad you liked it
Can you help? Customize buttons is missing in my prefs menu- do you know how I can restore this so I can customize my setting please
What crop mood version are you using? There are two version. In the first one you can’t customize the buttons. In the last one you can do it. Last version is the April 18th version
I'm using an Android phone as external monitor , but in a bright sun day I cant see very well the screen. what do you do in this case? I'm thinking to add a matte screen protector to avoid reflections
You can try to make a DYI monitor hood for your cell. I think that it's the only solution. I use a feelworld Lut7 Pro /2200nits external monitor. It's very bright and I can see clearly the image even in a very sunny day.
In the histogram menu you choose linear, is that better then the raw setting?
Hi!! if you check well that part of the video, "Histogram Type" is setting on Raw- based(RGB). I only change the scaling method from Log to Linear.
@@russo-filmmaking oh ok, then what is the difference between linear and log?
Linear scales have consistent measures between different points, whereas logarithmic scales have progressing measurements between points. In the first case the values between two consecutive points on the line doesn't change, no matter how high or low you are. While Log is based on exponents, and the value between two consecutive points not only changes, but also has a distinct pattern. Eos M Raw is Linear and doesn't have any logarithmic modification
@@russo-filmmaking ok, thank you for the explanation, very helpful 👍 my histogram was set to log, but now linear, and l hope it helps me with better exposure.
when I zoom in and then press half shutter doesn't do nothing... (actually sometimes works the autofocus if I zoom and then hold left arrow) ....if I press half shutter without the zoom I get the frame that would actually come out.... I believe am using the same canon lenses as you in this video... I wonder Is it possible to autofocus during recording?
you have to customize the half shutter button under customize buttons tab
When you finish recording, does the monitor screen turn off and on? I'm currently using an Osee lilmon5 ans every time after a shot is done, the screen goes black and then back on
When I turn on the camera and then turn on the monitor sometime the monitor is black. Sometime the same happens when I turn off the monitor and the camera display appears black. When it happens I press the zoom button (that in my case it's the set button on the camera) and it fix it. Try to do the same when you finish recording if the monitor turn black. Never it append to me when I finish recording.
I can’t autofocus in recording mode?
Then how I can focus moving subjects?
With the latest crop mood modified by Danne, you can use the auto focus function. But it’s very bad and slow . So if you use the eos M or other cameras with magic lantern you have to learn to pool manually focus like people do when shoot movies. You can use magic zoom during recording or assign focus aid (present in the Danne Crop Mood version) to the shutter for focusing while recording
@@russo-filmmaking
Thank you brother!
I use dannes new build..
but. How to use that focus aid?
Didn’t heard of it..
@@DarnelNeelunder movie tab select customize buttons and then set half shutter to focus aid
Ciao Sergio, hai per caso provato ad utilizzare un cellulare come monitor? pensavo di usare il mio vecchio iphone come mini monitor esterno per quando ho il rig montato.
Grazie ^^
Ciao, con l'iPhone non funziona: solo funziona con cellulari Android. Pero onestamente non ho mai fatto una prova.
Stai usando l'ultima release ufficiale dal sito ML, o versioni custom?
Ciao, il sito ML da vari anni non ha aggiornato nessuna build. Quelle che mette a disposizione hanno un sacco di problemi e sono molto instabili. Negli ultimi anni le migliori versioni sono state sviluppate da Danne, pero quest'ultima versione che si chiama Crop Mood sviluppata de Bilal é in assoluto la più´stabile e a portato la canon EOSM, la 700D, la 650D e la 100D ad un'altro livello. Questo é il link da cui puoi scaricare la ultima versione per la M che é quella del 9 maggio e si chiama magiclantern-crop-mood.2023May09.EOSM202
bitbucket.org/bilal_fakhouri/crop-mood-builds/downloads/?fbclid=IwAR1t_SxgeiEvlQN7RSWuaPiXR8C8cIeM4qhP4AO5Ox1iXrnQoqzBUYVLP7k
@@russo-filmmaking aaah ecco perché! Meta' degli youtuber dice che e' fantastica, altri dicono l'opposto ahah
Io ne avevo scaricato una dal sito ufficiale, ma avevo il bug sull'half shutter (crash) e problemi di preview. Oltre a problemi di buffer, questi ultimi ho appena capito - dopo aver fatto vari test con Blackmagic test - che erano dovuti ad alcune SD card che non mantenevano ed andavano a 15MB/s in scrittura
Sergio & Bilal are all set to take Zeek’s efforts ahead, passing of the olympic flag 🚩🗽way to go
Thanks for waching!! We are trying to do our best
Hello Sergio, a question about the Canon EOS M.
About the anamorphic crop mode, are you satisfied about the sharpness of this setting with this camera.
I work with the Canon 5DMark3, the recorded resolution with the anamorphic mode is 1920-2340 and stretched 5740-2340.
The picture itself looks fine, but I find the sharpness not brilliant. The details are far from sharp.
thanks again
Richard
Sharpness also depends a lot of the lens you use. Moreover when I shoot with the EOS M I don't pay much attention to it because finally a get a sharp image through my workflow. I can match my M to the BMPCC 4K and make it more sharper than the Pocket 4k .In same case I use Topaz Ai which give me incredible results (you have to know how to use it correctly in order to not generate artifacts). If you look at the final footage with a more sophisticated color grade (whatch it in 4k) at the end of the my video, that image is very very sharp.
@@russo-filmmaking Thank's again for your answer. Indeed it's very sharp the last image.
You mean the shot of the women (your wife) with the dog I guess.
Was this recorded in 1080P and upscaled?
Because the Canon EOS M can not record this resolution with 16-9.
The aspect ratio with 4K is 1:2.39 with the Canon EOS M I thought.
sorry for all these questions, but its very interesting.
greetings
Richard
@@richardrem with crop mood you can know shoot (1x3) 4.2K 16:9 1376x2322 (2.03x crop), and this is my favorite 16:9 mode. I filmed the video using it. So the final resolution was 4,128 x 2322 and I downscaled it to 3840x2160. You can also shoot (1x3) UHD 16:9 1280x2160 (2.18x crop). I prefer 4.2K because more resolution and less crop.
can autofocus while recording or the focus can only be done before resting the record button ?
Autofocus when recording is possible with Danne build (the ML version before Crop Mood) but it’s very slow and not precise in many cases. You can use autofocus before recording as I explained in my video.
@@russo-filmmaking As always thank you very much for the help, and all the support you give to the community with your videos, thanks a lot
which mode has the best image , without moire/aliasing and continues recording ?
1x3 and 1:1 modes don’t have aliasing an moire but have problems with rolling shutter. On the other side 3x3 modes generate in some cases aliasing and moire but they dont’t have rolling shutter problems . My preferred modes are 1x3 modes:
for 2.35:1 aspect ratio I use 4.8k 14-12 bit depending of light conditions and for 16:9 aspect ratio I use 4.2k 14bit.
2.5k or 2.8k have a sharper image but crop factor is more than 3x
@@russo-filmmaking ok...what is the crop in 4.8K and 4.2K ?
@@toxotis70 please check my previous video where I talk deeply about all the mods and how to get the best of each of theme setting the correct bit-depth. In that video I talk about the crop factor of both 4.8k and 4.2 k
Is 4:3 possible in Crop Mood? Can’t seem to find the option..
@@_joshuacray I would use 2 options: 1) set crop mood to 3x3 1080p 16:9 14bit, then after refresh with the menu button, in raw tab select under aspect ratio 4:3 and under resolution rotating the wheel select 1152x1160. With this method you'll get 4:3 continuous recording, and you have to set kill global draw to off because otherwise you will not be able to see correctly the 4:3 framing. 2) the second method is the one I prefer because has more quality and less aliasing: use the setting for 1x3 4.2k 16:9 14bit that I explained in the video (leave kill global draw to on) and then in post-production crop sideways the image to get 4:3 aspect ratio. You'll get continuos recording, no aliasing, more quality. I shot a horror short film with this last method which I'll soon upload in my channel
Unsure if you’ve had this issue, but in all modes the live view is frozen for me, if it’s cropped or zoomed in however it seems fine? Do you know of a fix for this?
What crop mood are you using, what resolution or aspect ratio? did you have switched from AF to MF in the canon Menu? and did you have set AF Method as Flexizone Wide (the one which is in the middle) as I explained in the video?
@@russo-filmmaking I’ve mostly used 4.8k 2.35:1, have tried with 5.2k and 4.4K as well, the AF is set to wide and manual and crop mood is the latest build
With the setting you have, camera works amazing for me without any problem. So I suggest to format again your sd card in your computer. I always use ExFat. Then copy again the last Bilal build on your card and install it on your EOS M. And follow all the correct steps. This have to solve your problem, if not something wrong is in your canon settings. And other question is what SD card do you use?
@@russo-filmmaking I have a UHS-II samsung sd card, however i seem to have found the issue, when fps override is enabled it's frozen, when it's disabled it's not
@@ryzechdev perfect👍, never touching fps override with this build. As I suggest in my previous video we have to stay only with the crop mood presets to get the best of this build
Hi, thank you for this useful video. I have problems with the buttons, L/R supposed to control aperture. It doesn't work for me. I am using a Canon pancake 22mm f2. Any suggestions welcome. And if I only roll the wheel the shutter speed doesn't change too... My shutter lock in settings is OFF.
if you set the buttons as in my video L/R works if you hold and press the R wheel for a moment before to roll it. I explain it in my video. I don't own a 22mm pancake so I don't know why you can't change the shutter, scrolling the wheel. It works with all my lenses. Have you tried with another lens? Is your wheel working properly? sometime buttons and wheel have to be change because they died
@@russo-filmmaking Thank you. I double checked but it still doesn't work for me. I don't have any other lens to check with. I started EOS M in normal mode (without ML Crop Mood), pressing the set button. In the original Canon mode, the wheel is working and the left/right buttons of the wheel too. So I guess I missed a setting in ML somewhere.
@@russo-filmmaking I am still stuck with the left/right buttons not working for me. However, I noticed that once I set up L/R buttons as in your videos, instead of changing aperture, it changes what is indicated by the red arrow in the following screenshot: pic.infini.fr/XsPp9k12/J4M4iPkk.jpg
@_1080p_ Thank you very much for your help. It worked.
is it possible with autofocus?
Yes, but not continuos autofocus. As I explain in the video you point your subject, half clik the shutter button to activate the autofocus in your Electronic lens and then start to film. Follow the steps in the video to activate the correct settings in the canon menu
donde se puede encontrar una EOS M :( hay pocas a la venta de segunda mano
Hola solo la puedes encontrar usada. Lo más fácil es en ebay.com. Hay bastantes eos M provenientes de Japón. El solo cuerpo ronda al rededor de usd 200, mientras el cuerpo con un kit lens y algunos accesorio puede variar entre usd 250-300 + costo de envio. Considera que a ese precio al momneto de la importación tienes que anexar el Iva de tu país y eventuales aranceles, subiendo el precio de aprox un 25-35%. También en el grupo de Facebook "mlv raw on EOS M" a veces alguno miembros venden su EOS M.
im confused, can the eos M record in true 4k (not upscale) without limit of time?
Check this video to see what resolution you can get with the EOS M and Magic Lantern Crop mood, and their limitation ruclips.net/video/EPFWQwXLr4A/видео.html
This is a 14 old camera, which was mainly created for pictures and not for video, so you can´t get true 4K. But if you learn how to use it, you can get better quality footages than a lot of 4K cameras.
Hola Sergio,
Tengo una cuestión que no doy solucionado, en modo vídeo no soy capaz de cambiar la ISO a modo MANUAL, lo configuro en modo PHOTO pero luego en el modo vídeo vuelve a configurarse en auto. No sé como solucionarlo, de hecho los botones configurables que he puesto como tú has explicado, no responden como mencionas. Puedes ayudarme? Gracias !
Probablemente la camera tiene alguna configuración automática que no permite cambiar el ISO de la camera. Revisa bien en el menu de la canon si no tienes activado algún programa automatico
Please tell me how you got 81MB/s write. My 700D is capable of 240MHZ speeds with SD104 but my Sandisk Extreme Pro 128gb 200mbit/s won't write above 67MB/s speeds
What mode, resolution and bit-depth do you use?
@@russo-filmmaking 1x3 4.8K @2:35:1 12Bit or 14Bit when it's possible
OK. I usually get between 70-80MB/s shooting in high resolution 1x3 and less than 70 MB /s when shooting 3x3. I use Sandisk Extreme Pro Sd Cards (256gb 200 MB/s type) so I can't tell you why you can't exceed 70MB /s. Our cards are the same, only the capacity changes.
Hi how long does the battery last continuously recording 7:28
Hi, If you are referring to the LP-E12 batteries I'm not sure, cause I've never noticed it and I never took the time or make some test. This is because for my filmmaking style, normally I take little shots and from what I remember I never filmed more than 6-7 minutes without stopping the recording ( and it happens only when I film myself talking in a RUclips video).
@@russo-filmmaking Thanks Serrus, I live stream 3 hours at a time with the yolobox pro. There might be more power options out there. EOS M arriving tomorrow. Perfict for hill walking and live streaming easy to carry and set up. You pointed me in the right direction. Cheers
@@ErrigalCam for long shots I suggest to invest in npf batteries or v-mount batteries to get hours of continuos recording
@@russo-filmmaking Awesome! Thanks Serrus
Imagino que si usas una powerbank la cámara funcionará mejor porque puede usar toda la energía que quiera todo el rato, con las baterías la gasta más rápido porque tiene que llegar a los voltios de entrada
Tengo 8 baterías LP E12 que me vendieron en paquete con la cámara cuando la compré. En promedio duran al rededor de 25-35 min de registracion continua. En un día de tomas no uso mas de dos baterías porque mis tomas son siempre de pocos minutos. No uso power bank, porque es algo mas que tengo que encontrarle espacio en la cámara..... cuando para mi lo padre de esta camera es su portabilidad. A lo mejor acabándose la vida de las baterías que tengo ahora a mi dispocion, usare alguna solución para baterias NP-F como las que uso con mi BMPCC 4K
Too bad there's no option to store and recall presets. Other then that, Crop Mood is a giant leap forward. Enjoyed your videos!
I agree !!
what sd card did you use?
Sandisk Extreme Pro, 170MB or 200MB it's the same
im using the crop mood from june 2023, when I try to record raw, the playback only shows a black screen. and I can record anything higher than 720p 10 bit raw before it stops recording and empty the buffer
what SD card do you use? are you filming in lossless or uncompressed raw? how disd you set sdoveclock and small hacks? have you set raw quality in the canon menu? and what resolution did you set in the canon menu?
@@russo-filmmaking I don’t know what scared I’m using, I’m trying to film uncompressed raw, I overlock the sd card and I’m using the small hacks, I set the quality to raw on canon. But still dosent work
@@thevrboi sorry I mean SD card (not scared), what Sd card are using. You must to use lossless.It’s impossible to film uncompressed for more than a few seconds. You have to set 14bit lossless under the raw tab and never touch it again. Then when you want to change your color depth you have to do it from the crop mood settings.
@@russo-filmmakingI’m using the SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB card, I’ll try do use that settings
@@thevrboi the SD Card is ok.
How to connect in pc??
I think that you need some interface, but honestly I don't now because I'm a Mac user and never I tried to connect the EOSM to my laptop. Surelly You can get an answer to your question in the Facebook EOSM community facebook.com/groups/mlvraw
Your 77 is green but in my case it 100% would be red or yello in the best case hmm
Check your exposure, ettr around 0.9-0.1, then be sure your bit depth is set as lossless. Some time People changing their bit depth from the raw tab make the error to select 14-12 bit istead of 14-12 bit lossless and it gives only a few seconds of recording. To avoid this mistake Bit depth must be changed only from de crop mood tab
how u got 82mbp/s and yellow color
One of the most important thing when you shoot at high resolution like 5.2k or 4.8k with high bit depth like 14 or 12bit, you have to avoid high contrast scene with very luminosity áreas. So controlling your exposure and the general lighting of your scene it's a very importan factor to get good results. For example If I shoot in exteriors with high luminosity if I'm in 4.8k mode I lower my bit depth to 12bit and in same extreme cases up to 10bit. Latelly I'm shooting 4.6k 2.2:1 aspect ratio with a crop factor of x1.8, and it works very well in 14bit and 12bit in almost all lights conditions.
I don’t know whether to be impressed by the extended functionally Canon built into the EOS M that Magic Lantern unleashed, or to think they should be ashamed that they didn’t exploit it themselves.
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for watching!!
If 4k is 3840 x 2160, I'm wondering how 1736x2214 is classed as 5.2k?
1736 x 3 = 5208: the image is anamorphic and you have to de squeeze it by 3, like when you use anamorphic lenses, I explained it in the video where I made a deep test on crop mood
@@russo-filmmaking its still a little strange to me, as I always like to shrink rather than expand footage, and if lines have been thrown away you would think that would be more visible if scaled up. but perhaps not as footage looks ok to me
@@beatskool101the camera, via Magic Lantern, is using a pixel binning method on the sensor to squeeze the image for better image quality. It's quite complex to get your head around but there's lots of info online. Definitely not just resizing the image, it's extremely technical with lots of science going on.
What a shame i cannot have continuous AF on ML 😔😔😔
In the video I never said that we can get continuous AF. We can get autofocus with electronic lens before starting recording like I explain in the video, but not continuous AF. Now, I'm not sure because I did't try it yet, but I think that with the latest crop mood modified by Danne we can get continuous AF, even if take in count that continuous AF with magic lantern is slow and very unstable.