Am I Too Old for Illustration?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Is ageism a problem in the illustration business? Jake Parker, Will Terry, and Lee White discuss how to stay relevant as older illustrators.
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Hey! Thanks for showing my new book -- The Trouble with Children (According to Dog)! My illustrator, Caner Soylu, is incredibly talented and I feel very lucky to work with him. We make a great team. (And thanks for not clicking on my Uh-Oh! My Dragon's Hungry ad 😂😉 LOL ... That's our other new book, Caner illustrated that one, too.) ☺ He's currently working on our next two books, The Trouble with Children (According to Cat) and Uh-Oh! My Dragon's Smelly. ❤
Guys…I’m 53, recently transitioned from being a long time tattoo artist to illustrator and taught myself both Procreate ( it’s easy) and how to market myself on instagram, including making reels. It’s not hard, especially with all these young whippersnappers offering basic Procreate courses on Slkillshare ( which is free for a month) and Art marketing on Instagram. Study what the young ones are doing to not get stuck in being dated. Most of my instagram followers are at least twenty years younger than me. I’m saying all this to encourage the oldies to not give up! Being old, I HATE social media so so much but I’m sucking it up and doing it anyway. good luck to all the, like, aspiring geriatric illustrators out there!
Thank you for your words of hope and encouragement! Well done with your career change and best of luck! 👍👏
Loving the personal stories at the end, they got progressively more and more worrying.😂 (Glad everyone was okay, otherwise who would we look to for all our illustration knowledge! 😬😅💕)
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Great stories from all 3 of you! We live on 3 acres about 600 feet off the main road. Though not as dramatic as Lee's story, we had a close call in that 4 guys who had just robbed a house in the development across the street can zooming down our neighbor's driveway 2 houses over. The cops followed with one searching down our drive. The guys tried to drive their car over the neighbor's septic drain field, but got stuck. They jumped out and hid in the woods at the back of our properties. After a short time, one by one, the cops brought all four guys out of the woods and placed them in police cars. Scary part was that they could have easily come down our drive. 🐀🚲🚔
35:30 "Hello, fellow kids!" moment
Good Lord the way things escalated from "I learned to swear" to "I got hit by a car, twice" to "I was held hostage"...
I feel like there isn’t enough variety in the style of children’s book art these days. It feels like everyone is copying that animation influenced style. Why can’t there be an eclectic array of styles in children’s books? I like looking back at some older styles, some styles are just timeless…because they are good!
Absolutely loved all the stories at the end! Made me want to do an animated short of each story. I can totally relate with the aging artist style section. I too am guilty of getting stuck. Thanks again for the inspiration and convos! Y’all rock! 🐀 💩 🚴 🚓
I LOVED the stories at the end!!! Haha! I hope you do more of those! Also - Will: my younger sister got hit twice by cars as well. The first time she was about 5 or 6 and was crossing the street in front of our house. She got hit so hard the grill marks of the front of the car were imprinted on her side. She flew forward about two car lengths, ambulance came, she was scraped up but no bones were broken. Second time, she was riding her bike and got hit by some Jehovah witnesses that had just left our house. They came back with her in their arms apologizing. My mom was not too happy to see them again after turning them away the first time. My sister ended up with very minor injuries from that one, as she wasn’t hit too hard. .. Now you know of someone else who was hit 2x!!! 😂🎉😅
I don't feel so alone anymore! :)
I don't know if you're aware, but take a look at Pete Beard's channel & especially his series Unsung Heroes of Illustration. He does discuss the ramifications of illustrators that won't or chose not to change with the time & since he covers the late 19th & 20th C. there are excellent examples of just how styles have changed over the decades. All of the illustrations he shows are astounding & the stories he puts together about the lives of these people are so well done, it is truly something every illustrator should watch.
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I will admit that I came to this episode after watching the one about self-publishing. I wanted to see if the general vibe was consistent. You didn't disappoint, so all applicable buttons have been pushed. I do plan on self-publishing a work of mine, but it will be done on a Vandercook proof press, 64 large format (10x14) pages, & then hand bound in a cloth cover. I am figuring on a 125 copy run.
I will check out some of your previous videos & look forward to new ones. I wish you well.
Thanks for taking my question! So cool. Great advice and it's definitely great to hear all of your takes on this creative journey thing we're doing. It helps - it really does! (Also, I'm gonna go grow a man bun and turn my cap around to up my rizz fer sure! 😉😄)
kinda crazy how they known each other this long and Lee is just now telling them this story XD. I feel like this is the first story I would tell people if it happened to me.
Thanks guys for this video.
🐭🚴🚔 Love the realness!! It's so true, the work should stand on its own. There are so many false beliefs that float around. I catch mine all the time. I love the honesty here. This is the way to learning how to self evaluate. Thank you so much you guys, for how you keep it all real.
Got hit by a car THREE times... first was riding a bike on a sunday evening, woke up the next day in the hospital with no recollection whatsoever. Lost 2 teeth and had to have 2 surgeries on my elbow. I wear a helmet now. Second I was in the bike lane, heard something behind me, I looked back for a second, when I looked forward again there was a door across the bike lane that I clipped and the taco'd wheel made me flip over the handlebars but I had enough time to rotate and land on my right shoulder and backpack. Third was a taxi at night, he turned left on a yield, I swerved to avoid him, then he slammed on the brakes right in my path. If you hit a windshield with your shoulder blade it can actually cushion you pretty well. Neither of these have anything to do with illustration whatsoever lol. Also 🚓
Wait what!!!??? Nice job! You got me!
I loooooove your podcast sooo much! It is so inspiring and motivational. Please, never stop 😅 I need you 😁😁😁
Story part is great. 🐭🚲🚔 (don’t remember which exactly emojies to use 😄) Can’t wait for the next episode 😌
Love the new story segment!
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Awesome podcast! The stories were the best. You told them in the right order. 🐭🚴♂️🚔
This is sooo valuable guys. You did it again 🎉
Absolutely brilliant! 🐁🚴♂️🚔 Every podcast should end with 'storytime'! 😂👏👏👏🤗
I do abstract art when I can lol... Congratulations on your gallery show!
I watched the bicycle vid long ago…it is pretty powerful. Sadly most…adults especially…aren’t willing to go through the failure and mental fortitude it takes to rewrite your brain.
With the wide open space and freedom of the internet. There’s no such thing as being too old to start in Art. You walk around with a computer in your hand. There’s no excuse to become what you want to be. You sat at someone’s company for 15-20 years slaving away for less than what you were worth so now you can get over your fears and go after your dreams in art. Don’t live with regret. Just do it.
🐀 Firstlys, Lee, 30 to 60? 🤣 Re: ageism in advertising…I have definitely experienced this and hiring young people who are cheap is actually a form of agism. It’s illegal but it happens all the time in the agency world, blatantly. I could see how it could happen at a studio as well. From my limited experience with gaming it is very bro-ee. If you can make friends with anyone you have less problems. I think you have to be very careful generalizing on this topic based on your own experience because you may not know what you are talking about across industries and settings. Staying flexible and adaptive is great advice. Also not complaining.
🐀💩Haha, I literally just filled out a claim yesterday with my insurance because of rat damage in my car engine right now …so this is very relatable.(oh and … 🚲 🚔)
🐀🚴🚓 can’t wait to hear Samantha & Anthony’s dinner party tales too!
🐀💩 absolutely enjoyed the stories! Thank you for this week's podcast👮🚴
I never think of how old I am. My wife has to remind me. Ba Dum tss!
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Cool advice, cool and funny stories... more please. 😄🐀🚲🚔
Great one guys! I'm 72 and didn't get into illustration (book, blu ray and magazine covers) until my late 50's. I've been in business all my adult life but this is easily the most fun and lucrative venture I've been involved with. Mind you, I'm probably one of the last illustrators on the planet who works in oil paint, so even though I'm not the best artist out there, my covers stand out from all the digital stuff. And of course, I make a few bucks on the originals too!
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Those stories made me smile!
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:copcar: thanks
🐀🚲🚔😆😆😆 Loved hearing those stories!
I've been hit by a car 5 different times. Twice on a bike.🚲
Whattttttttt????????
@@willterryart the most i've heard is someone being hit 12 times on 3 different continents, so I count myself lucky to survive 5
@@jonkubina Perhaps I shouldn’t brag anymore! Ha!
@@willterryart haha, keep telling your stories. how many times were you hit on a bike while not wearing a helmet?
@@jonkubina Both! Maybe that’s why I’m an artist?
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The short answer is yes. A bunch of us illustrators from early 90s had the rug pulled out from under us by skinny infantile children who knew nothing about art but a lot about quick tricks and hacks that impressed stupid art directors. They stole my career, and whenever I get the chance I ruin theirs.
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