HOW did Red Bull get SO FAR AHEAD in 2024? 😲🚀 | Sky Sports F1 Podcast
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On this week’s Sky Sports F1 Podcast, Matt Baker, Crofty, Naomi Schiff and Simon Lazenby recap the Bahrain Grand Prix - the season opener for 2024.
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Unrealiabilty is sorely missed in the modern era. There’s nothing like the camera cutting to the leaders car on fire
we can only hope we get a lot of that in 2026
Sustainability is at fault. Every part has to last for half a season. All these car parts arent run near the limit anymore.
Also the teams have so much data warning them in advance.
It is quite sad.
It still happens but only if its a Ferrari
F1 is no longer bleeding edge and has not been for a long time. Jeopardy is really needed in racing.
@@2in1shampoo86 Depends on who is leading the race, isn't it?
These guys only want to see Newey at Ferrari because Lewis is going there. No consideration for the fact that a current dreamteam is already in place in the form of the Verstappen/Newey/Horner combo.
Exactly this, No way Max leaves the best car when hes been waiting for the best car for few years! 😂
Indeed. And then it would be LH IS SUCH A FANTASTIC DRIVER and they would never say it’s Neweys car design…..
Give some credit to Max?
They can't he isn't Bri'ish
The WONT! Because its the HATEFULL Sky English!
They can’t it’s not a British driver!
Max is a great driver who is behind a beast of a car. We want competition and I think people are getting bored.
I don't think Hamilton was this dominant even with the best car. The gap between the Red Bull car and the rest is crazy.
@@Abdi-libaax your wrong, Max turns this car in a beast. He’s the best driver we wil ever witness.
i missed this video during the hamilton aera ..
Hello? Mercedes dominance from 2014-2020 ! RedBull dominance in 2011 & 2013 ! The question should be more like "When was there NOT a dominant team?"...
been the same for 30 years
2021, 2022
Other teams won races in all those years.
I duno man, 2014-2016 was lewis v nico and twice it went down to the last race
17 and 18 lewis v vettel,
half of 2019 was exciting with Ferrai's cheat engine,
Only really 2020 was a truely boring season but it had some mad races like lewis on 3 wheels, the Mercedes burning up their tires in the 2nd silverstone race, turkey was mad. Last year had like 1 amazing race Singapore and maybe 3 good races LA, Dutch, Monza the rest were OK or boring.
I'm not saying we haven't had dominance before but wow last year was another level of bordom and I fear this year will be the same.
If you watched the video you’d see they talked about other periods of dominance😂 stop being biased and selective hearing mate
Perez also drive the car and Max stil had 22 sec difference. So it is not the car only.
Might that not be because they have designed the car around how Max likes to drive and so it doesn't favour Checos driving style as much?
@@hirsutebodkin6888 People can't just keep saying that it's so lazy. How much time does Checo need to adapt? He should be on top of it by now.
@@hirsutebodkin6888such bullshit, the car is designed to be as fast as possible. Checo is an exceptional driver yet Max is world class. These British can only acknowledge this when a Brit is winning, just a shame
I think a lot of people saying this use it as a sort of gotcha against anyone saying max is winning because of the car. But seriously, just think about it for 2 seconds. Checo is a good driver, but he's not in that top group, I think we can all agree on that. Hamilton, Leclerc, Norris, and the other guys in the best of the rest group are on par or faster than Checo if they were in the same car. So how is Checo able to get P2? well he's quite simply in the faster car. And yeah, he's no Max Verstappen, so he has to fight for it, but if that group of cars behind were actually on par with red bull, those guys would absolutely be fighting with Verstappen for P1 and not Perez for P2.
That being said, Hamilton is the only driver in that top group that I see consistent race performance from, but he's starting to lose that quali performance with age I think, and the other guys that have that excellent speed in quali like leclerc, they just don't seem to have the consistency over the season, or their team is making mistakes like we saw with Leclercs brake duct in bahrain. So I think Max would still be champion in equal cars, but I really don't understand how anyone can look at max driving off into the distance with the fastest car and say that it is max making the difference, he is only making the difference over his teammate while his car makes the difference over the other teams cars, because F1, whether you like it or not, is about building the fastest car, that's the whole point of a constructors championship.
To be clear, i do still think max is currently the best driver on the grid. But he absolutely is not worlds ahead, that really is the RB20.
@@hirsutebodkin6888go on then, you tell us how it’s designed to “suit max”? 😂
Max was winning races every year from 2016, even when he didn’t have the fastest or 2nd fastest car!!!
True, so have other drivers though
@@Oli-vt9shYea Lewis has won many races since not being in the best car 😂
Max also did it 2 vs 1.
With Lewis and Bottas tag teaming Max with tyre strategies.
Still Max had managed to snatched several wins over Mercedes.
@@leemartin3429 check before 2014 flower
@@gelmir7322 RB dominion of 10-13 other drivers one 2 v 1
If Max was British it would be a completely different podcast.
Exactly
there’s so many brits that support max over their own countrymen, which is v sad
@@sunizzoI would like to hear about many F1 fans, not random fanboys.
"...max over their own countrymen..." That should have nothing to do with it. And what's more, you carefully say "Brits",
I think the number plummets when talking about Englishmen.
As a F1 fan you can not but admire the achievement of MV and RB. SP drives the same car but MV makes the difference.
@@Arnaud58 lando, george and lewis have which flag next to their names? yes the british flag. supporting someone who wins uncompetitive, soulless races with everything hand to him on a plate over your own countrymen who represent britain globally is the definition of a fanboy.
@@sunizzoYour point being?
This is just extending mine.(Or is it a bad translation)
It's not red bulls' fault that they're so good. It's the other teams who can't make a fast enough car.
Exactly !!
Woah there buddy stop making sense and talking logically
I mean spending over the cost cap helps 😂😂
Apparently Adrian Newey said that he didn't understand how other teams did not anticipate the porpoising in 2022
dude still lives in the history@@axel12gauge61
Even when the RB was lifted in the air at Monaco exposing all the undertray secrets to other teams..none of them could fathom it out…
It is so annoying listening to people talking about how boring it is that RB has been dominant for 2 years (and yes, RB weren't dominant during 2021!). Do you guys have amnesia or were you ecstatic that the Merc dominated for 6 years? And sure, Ferrari challenged them for a year but Lewis always had it in hand. To top it all off, you want to see Lewis, Newey and Andy Cowell in the same team - so you want Ferrari domination - is that right?!
Nah, they need an Englishman to win. That's not boring to Sky, suddenly the guy is brilliant.
Lewis had it in hand? Vettel had the championship lead going into the summer break in both 17 and 18. You genuinely didn’t know who’d have the better car going into each race.
Nothing like what we’ve got now.
@oldschool8330 Funny that they had the lead and then Merc could come back into the fight. Kind of like in 2021 when the Merc was "firmly" behind RB and then all of sudden it swung the Mercs way during the last 4 races. Don't kid yourself that the level of domination wasn't there - they won 8 constructors titles in a row! Somehow that isn't domination is it?! And a car for the most part was more than a second faster in race pace than anyone else.
A team has won almost all the races last year and will probably do it again this year. How exciting right!
@@Chris-sm2uj2019: Merc won 19 out of 20 races…. Remember.
Excellence should be rewarded that’s what sport is about. It be great to see RB maintain their gap
Why did you call Max “Crystappen” a couple of days ago?
I asked you why Max fans would be crying. I said that they were partying, amazing times.
You never got back to me but I’m still curious.
guys got bipolar @@valkenburgert
@@valkenburgert it was mercs excellence that made the FIA change the rules of the game to allow Red Bull to then takeover. Do not think we all have memories of a goldfish, like you.
it was mercs excellence that made the FIA change the rules of the game to allow Red Bull to then takeover. Do not think we all have memories of a goldfish, like you.
Yet it was not the same energy when Mercedes were winning. Instead they were constntly checked by FIA, things outlawed like Aero bits, engine modes, many innavationsand etc., constant regulation changes to slow them down so other teams would have a chance to catch up. And yet it was still when multiple different teams were winning races, not like now when team is so dominant it would have to break down for other teams to have a chance. It just shows big bias of the sport and how in particular it changed in last couple of years, when one domination is bad and other is good, feeling more and more scripted rather than a raw sport like it used to be.
It's like a funeral for them. This is why I want Max to smash every record possible, even if it becomes boring.
Gosh D it, I think you're right. Me too would find it a bit boring, but absolutely I could solice in the fact that we are watching something extraordinary happen, try to find comfort in watching how far Max coule take it in that RB20? The hypocrisy is just deathening, mind blowing how simpleminded a few are and that they truly cannot even see their own bias knowing full well they watched Merc dominating and none able to catch up due to an amazing work my Mercedes long before even the regs were established. Heck they ran at least 2 different engine concepts far in advance to make sure they got it right, well in part at least but point is still there they mega committed to F1s new 2014 set of regs and doing so understanding the rules would not allow anyone to constantly and freely pursue more performance, they were set as soon as it all locked down and far in advance, was boring as H but still remarkable to watch so I did so anyway.
When Mercedes dominated, there wasn’t a cost cap. They dominated and maintained their domination on pure merit. Every team could spend whatever it had and wanted to, in order to catchup and beat Mercedes. Even with the luxury of being able to spend what you want, the FIA tried every trick in the book to kneecap them. Party mode = banned, DAS = banned, huge amount of floor off the rear to hurt low rake cars, and so on; just to try and slow Mercedes down. In the end all they could do was overtly rig a result to stop Lewis getting title #8, but still wasn’t enough to stop Mercedes winning.
These days if you steal a March, your dominance is assured; because nobody can spend enough to catch up. Without a cost cap, Mercedes would be right in Red bulls heels or maybe better.
@@jamieeames8934 Yes on merit, at very least in part they had a mega team. But everyone know the power unit they started way before anyone else + in combination with experience in forced induction had it's advantages. They had the token system, that is how you stay ahead, very limited upgrading in combination with $ backing. To make it costly and hard to find an advantage, regulation if you like.
@@luffararnesugerkuk the token system was only introduced during Covid to keep costs low while revenues were
They really can’t give max any credit “Adrian newey is really good” if it were Lewis winning they would be talking about how good Lewis is. They are quite quick to forget only one redbull was so far ahead
Yep just said the same thing it was the same thing they said when Sebastian was dominating
Ah Come on, you have to be fair. Sky Sports F1 are Part of the team LH fan club. It is unreasonable to expect them to be unbiased.
Exactly. They are too jealous
Totally agree. The performance from Max is Schumacher like. But all you hear from this Lewie Crew is Adrian N is a genius etc etc. Adrian doesn't drive the car guys.
Sky English biased nothing changes... its terrible to listen to this garbage...
Go Max !!! #1
Its not the car mate. Its the driver. Second Redbull is only 3 secs ahead.
It’s really sickening to see how much effort they use not to mention Max. Have they really zoomed in to Max’s race I wonder. Like clockwork….so consistent! If it’s just the “briljant” car then why is Checo finishing 22 seconds behind Max? They should applaud Max and RB for their performance and not talk it down as it being a funeral of sorts. The “fault” doesn’t come from RB. It comes from the other teams inability to design and build a better car
These people never want to give Max his flowers it's always the car the car unlike when Lewis was dominant then it was just him and no commenting or even talking about the car.
It's sky lewis fanbase, what could you expect from this idiot, it's all about lewis, lewis, and merc 😂
18:52 They're so desperate for that to happen 😂
Their Bias is incredible, they don't even try to hide it
Their Bias is incredible, they don't even try to hide it
She's got a thing about Lewis.. wink 😉 😉
My goodness me ! The biased is just unbelievable! 20 minutes in and no mention of other 7 teams in the grid
They can keep dreaming! If anything, Newey goes with Max to Mercedes. Wouldnt that be the ultimate burn, Max and Newey at Merc and they win the world title haha!
Three things a certain in life: Death, Taxes and Sky not getting over Abu Dhabi 2021.
So true and Sky discussing Lewis joining Ferrari in 2025
@@matrix35 it's like sky sports it's all about lewis & mercedes 😅
When Seb and max are dominating its Adrian newey you guys are embarrassing
They can't stand that someone other than their favorite driver is winning and dominating
Exactly. And with LH it’s all LH ..not the dominant engine ….
@@Redlingstein Lewis was just a really good qualifier. Nothing to do with party mode being 0,8sec a lap quicker than any other car.
2021 was the best season. Watching Lewis drive around for 6 yrs with no competition was tedious.
You must have missed 17 and 18 then. New to f1?
@@oldschool8330 yah I’ve been watching since 1980. I’m a newbie. Those yrs weren’t really close. Ferrari burning oil doesn’t count.
If it seemed Mercedes would be so good in 2026, Lewis wouldn't have left. Jos just likes free meals.
Lewis wasn’t going to get a Contract by Mercedes for 2026…
As expected simon taking away credit from Max and giving it all to adrian.. during Mercedes dominance we only heard about lewis and suddenly now everything is about Engineer and car.
Behave will ya, all we heard in the Hamilton era was: “the amazing engine department back in Brackley done a fantastic job etc etc”
Selective memory.
@@oldschool8330 What are you smoking??
RedBull won championships with Renault powerplants. McLaren tried with Honda and gave up , and thought putting the championship winning Merc engine would solve all their problems. RedBull teamed up with Honda and the rest is history. Merc changed their concept in 2022 and it was a disaster for them and changed it again for 2024. RedBull changed a winning concept for 2024 and it is even better. Gives one good perspective of who has got the superior engineering and design team.
There has been two big things that made the Merc team stand out since they purchased the Brawn team in 2010. One is they usually have a British driver, so they have a lot of support from the media and narratives that float around in the paddock. The gossip, the rumours, the perception of things. Or to put it another way.. they have a lot of political pull in the sport, similar to the way Ferrari does. Whether it's being about how to influence rules changes, or how the sport is regulated. It doesn't ensure that you win anything, but it's important to have some control over things in this area. And outside of race weekends, the teams are always fighting about this and trying to gain advantages. Trying to ensure that the future will be brighter, in terms of how everything is regulated etc. It's sort of like how the drivers on team radio are always trying to get the team to support them more than the other driver, except it's the teams doing that vs the regulators of the sport.
The second thing is an extremely dominant engine. With a big budget and competent technical team on that side of things. What helped them even more was the engine freeze and token system, locking in their advantage after the big rule changes. They started off with a huge advantage and they were able to sustain it and stay in front. Like you said, it didn't help for McLaren to use Merc power units later on.. but in those early years it did have a big effect. It dragged Williams right up near the front when Bottas was driving for them, for example.
Merc can still build a decent chassis and during their dominant era, they refined the chassis to be better. After a few years.. yes, the chassis was really strong. But they aren't standouts in this area. It wasn't the thing that got them into that position in the first place. The chassis isn't or hasn't ever been their strong point. If you look at the last 14 years, when it's an engine formula they excel. When it's a chassis formula, they are often near the front but don't stand out. Which comes back to that first point.. about trying to get it back into being an engine formula again.
What helped them was that the early years of dominance gave them a head start, and meant that when engines were starting to equalize, they were already starting from in front. In this situation, they did have a dominant chassis and this was their peak era as a team. But starting with equal engines, and trying to win based solely on the chassis.. they've never excelled at this. Same thing with Redbull and engines.. they have yet to prove that they can do this on the engine side. They relied on poor to average Renault engines, switched to Honda which appear to be very good, but are only now starting to build their own. Time will tell. Ferrari are generally strong in both areas.. being an all rounder but never usually being dominant in either. But combined as a package, they are usually near the front. And then their strategy (or something else) will mess it all up.
To conclude.. the first point about how the sport is regulated is actually a really big thing. Look at 2005 with BAR Honda for example, or 2006 with Renault and the mass damper. When you have a clever part on your car that is in the grey area of regulations.. you can be told that you can keep it this year, but it will be banned for next year. Or you can be told to remove it straight away. Or you can be told that you are being banned for a few races. This ugly aspect of the sport has stabilized a bit in recent years.. and it's more subtle and less blatant now. But it always helps to have support from the fans, the media, the paddock etc. If you are perceived to be treated fairly or harshly when viewing F1 from the outside. It's surprising that there aren't already rumors of rule changes mid season, or complaints about specific parts on the new Redbull car. Because this used to be a standard thing anytime someone appeared to be fast or dominant. The sport is less tampered with than it used to be. It used to be a constant part of the discussion.. whether parts on the cars are legal or not, and that put a lot of pressure on whether or not they should be allowed to keep these parts. Mercedes were very good at managing this during their dominant era. And now Redbull are taking advantage of it. Redbull didn't create this, Mercedes did.. but they are currently taking advantage of it. On the one hand, there are less dark ugly dramas and tampering.. but on the other hand.. the entertainment factor suffers.
Answer this question: why was the camera coverage so poor? Lance Stroll came from last to a points position, they didn’t show a single one of his passes. I didn’t see Sergio’s passes either, even though he was passing Ferrari and Mercedes. They got fixated on dumb races for 13th, where was the coverage of the actual hero drives??
Terrible angles of the Ferrari v Ferrari battles, side by side and it felt like the cameras were in the wheels instead of showing the two cars in the corner
Who are you speaking to Sky F1?
If so you are wasting your time as the live camera feeds come from FOM Production. Sky and the other 73 broadcasters just take the feeds they are given so best get yourself off to Biggin Hill and complain to them if you don’t like which drivers they focus on.
Not even 10 minutes in and they bring up the last race of 2021 to the discussion like it defined the whole season. 😂
Well, it did because the FIA made a huge mistake, resulting in Verstappen winning the championship over Hamilton
True. If Max’s tire blowout at Baku and the first lap crash at Silverstone (which Lewis was at fault for as he got the penalty) alone had not have happened, Max would have sealed the championship before Abu Dhabi because those two incidents alone resulted in a net gain of 36 points for Lewis. Max would therefore have sealed the title at Brazil or Saudi. Also let’s not forget Bottas taking Max out at Hungary as well. People like to spin the narrative that Lewis was robbed just because of AD but conveniently forget that Max dropped a lot of points that season through no fault of his own, which was the only reason why it even went down to the wire in the first place
@@monoman1223 AD, except for the SCs bringing some excitement, it was a "weak" race, it started already with controversy with no penalty awarded to the front runner for cutting corners in order to get rid of the DRS from the car behind and gaining an unfair advantage; and it ended with the race direction getting overwhelmed and being to slow into taking decisions in order to follow the rules and that year's agreement to not end any race under a SC condition, and the compromise they found was found with the "any lapped car" rule, that was later changed to "all lapped cars". It is what it is, and drama and rivalries always sell, so I don't blame either side of the argument, it's good for the "show", people like drama.
@@adam-bj3znand if Hamilton had pushed the button on his steering wheel in Monaco, he probably would have won the championship before the last race, so you could also argue that it’s his own fault.
Crofty Attenborough
'That Red Bull in front.'
They hardly can get it over their lips😂
And ofcourse its all Newey. Some of them are so biased and still sour. Makes it fun to watch as an dutchman
I agree and as a Scotsman we love seeing them crying... its so biased... keep winning Max !!
@@gw492 no one’s crying it’s just boring to watch because the car is so good, no one is denying max is a phenomenal driver but put hamilton or Leclerc in that red bull and it would at least make the sport enjoyable to watch again
@@olic2327it's not up to RBR to make the sport exciting again. It's up to the other teams to catch up.
Redbull has worked well and hard, together with Newey and Max it is a winning match.
...together with RB. They have way more budget/data/windtunnel than every other team. That's cheating.
@@HUMC5Wait wait, if you think RedBull are sharing all of their data with RB, then why isn't RB the second best team on the grid ? If they have access to literally all of the data from RedBull like you say ?
@@HUMC5 Yeah right, NOPE
Well … if the news is to be believed, that partnership won’t be round much longer
One word: max verstappen. He’s so many seconds clear of his team mate so it’s not “them” it’s “him” that’s dominant.
Sorry to be picky but that's not one word 😅
I always wonder what would happen if we would put Max in a HAAS or Alpine. He probably would finish somewhere high up in the midfield scoring some points. 😂
His team mate is a joke
Incorrect.. newey did in fact build another rocket ship however max can bring out its rocketship potential and checo can’t, which makes the newey rocketship look average in his hands. Lets stop the bias takes… max fans can’t accept that newey has been building rocketships before max was born and it’s not the first time he’s done this so we know it’s not just max being great, it’s newey being the goat of building f1 cars
@@livefast-xc8lmWho build Lewis his rocket ships?
The real question is why do all the other teams suck so badly?
Because they are copying and did not take the risc to do some original thinking like Red bull did.
no Max
Red Bull overspent and are a year ahead in development.
@@sdcraig "over spent" is a very diplomatic way of describing their actions when it comes to those pesky cost cap regulations.
@@sdcraig how many more hours of wind tunnel time do they need to lose to even it out?
Max would be stupid to leave RB, even if Newey goes at least until the end of ‘25 when the regs kick in when everything is up for grabs
Car is okay, just 3 sec a head of the field. There driver is just from another planet.
* their
Cheer up everyone; the MotoGP starts on Sunday 10/03/24
I’ve slacked off since Rossi and Marquez stopped winning. I need to get back in the game bro.
Record set.
@@Karma2Babylon I only watch because MArquez is not winning and hope it stays that way.
@@MarioP9511 😂😂
SkysportsF1:
With Lewis …. It was never about the car, it was all about that amazing british driver!
With Max …. It is always about that amazing car and its amazing british designer Adrian Newey!
Sad lot
Simon sounds hungover
Crofty & Simon definitely - hope you got the hint with the slipper and bottle opener…
I said the same his voice is so croaky 😂
When doesn't he?
No one disagrees that 2021 was the best season ever because of the last race. Perharps Simon that's how you feel since you work for Mercedes AMG Sky Sports F1.
Your coverage this weekend was shocking. Simon had to bring up horner every time there was a camera pointed remotely in his direction. Ofc merc won the 2024 WDC the second they topped times in a FP2, done and dusted. And then discrediting a pole lap because someone else was quicker in Q2 by the tiniest of margins. The track is different 15mins later, would think you learned that by now.
Well said.
I think people are too quick to put everything on Newey. It's not just him and his ideas, but the team he works within - just plugging him into another team doesn't guarantee the rest of the engineers and designers agree with his suggestions or want his questions.
Ofc as Newey himself says too, it’s a team effort
I looks like Sky wants Newey go to Ferrari to help their god Lewis. Stil they can not say Max makes the differance in the Red Bull team. Checo has the same car.
Actually, Newey himself has said he regrets not working with Lewis and Ferrari
Asked if he regretted turning down Ferrari, Newey responded: “Emotionally, I guess, to a point. Yes.
“But just as, for instance, working with Fernando and Lewis would have been fabulous. But it never happened. It’s just circumstance sometimes, that’s the way it is.”
True story. Adrian is British btw.
@@Karma2Babylon Good and fair point. What i am talking about is how Sky is pushing for this narative. When Lewis was dominant is was ok and we all loved it but now Max is dominant they down play it. Lewis is the best driver ever, he was super fast and smart. But now Max has taken over we should also say it like it is.
@@johanfeenstra8778 sky is a media company; they’re just pushing for whatever brings eyeballs and £$€
Not worth complaining about; there’s better and more informative media out there, many of them British.
@@johanfeenstra8778 not only that - they now talk about Lewis at Ferrari as if a certain Charles Leclerc is not there
Max is the one being so far ahead. Just look at Perez his results... and Perez is not a bad driver, Max makes him look like one.
Perez is woefully bad
@@oldschool8330 yeah, just like the rest of them.
When did Sky F1 become a gossip column?
Schiff was on sky sports after practice talking about the gap closing up! She also made ill informed comments re alonso pace on medium tyres at the end of fp3.
She is a mere box ticking exercise
The only reason she's there is woman and black. Because diversity. Even if many pundits are way better than her. That's the sad part, they don't pick the best people for the job anymore. Being from a different race or gender is way more important these days.
21:20, lawyers tell them to stick in some backside covering in post?
Did everybody forgot about Honda in the Redbull?
True. And there's Yuki's home track in Japan. Not a good look to diminish him. Perhaps more security for the rest of the team?
Honda engine clearly very very good
It’s max , if he wasn’t there it would be closer racing
True, like in LH era, it was LH with the car,now it’s Max with the car. Its ALWAYS been like that. Schumacher, Senna, Prost…
@@Redlingstein yea but lewis was in a more dominant car less dominant
Perez would still win the title over the season. It maybe wouldn't be as dominant as Max but the Red Bull beats every other car at most circuits, regardless of how good the drivers in other teams are.
Leave it to Sky Sports to imply its only the car that is so dominant and leave out that Perez drives the same car and has NO WHERE near the same results as Max. Sky Sports just can't put Max in a good light unless their Hamilton gods would crucify them.
This interview is a testament as to why I moved to F1TV. Too much in the tank for Brit drivers.
If they have change the concept and it's still the fastest car on the grid is amazing they can only improve from here
So we can speculate but forget the tiny important detail, Max said himself, he is only in F1 for as long as he has a winning car. RB are the only team who offer him that. 2. RB setup is built around Max and allows him the freedom that he wouldn't get at Merc, not to mention going to a failing team... 3. People are talking long term, Max has already said given the changes in F1, he said he might not be around much longer. Going to Merc means a new team that won't guarantee success and I don't think he wants to stay that long. So all the arguments make more sense to stay at RB. We must separate Jos from actual racing and success of the ground. He is trying to live his life through Max.
Red Bull isn’t build around Max, Max can drive any car and has shown this throughout his career and still is.
Perez is struggling on simulators, Max drives any car flawlessly. He’s done so all his life. That’s why he’s so good, he prefers a sharp front because he knows it’s the fastest way.
So does Newey. They both understand all of it.
@@valkenburgert I don't mean they make the car just for him. The system is always built to tilt towards their flagship driver. I am a RedBull and Max fan and I know he can adapt to all cars such is his talent.
@@Ogole-oye “The system is always tilt towards their flagship driver”
It isn’t. It was only last year where Mercedes and Lewis proved otherwise.
Max walked into a team that delivered him a car he loved. Details are adjusted to his liking, just like with Perez. Neither get a car of their choice though, would be insane to base your long-term team strategy on a single person. Especially in a high-risk sport where contracts are full of clauses.
It’s a myth.
Max is in it to become the statistical greatest driver of all time. People that believe he wants to retire are exhausting
sky still salty over 21 title, wishing for the downfall of RB/Max lol
Yup 😂😂
No we didnt see the best of Ferrari…
No we didnt see the best of Mercedes…
Crofty just hipes we saw the vest of Red Bull, pretty sure we haven’t yet.
Correct
It’s 75% the car but the important bit is the driver, eg.. Schumacher n Barichello, Mansell n Patrase, …
Are those numbers real data?
Naomi is absolute fire.
She is so fine
it’s simple… adrian newey being the only designer from when ground effect was used last, cost cap breach, being able to start on the following years car before anyone else as they are so far ahead, fia + media turning a blind eye and letting rb do as they please
red bull is undeniably the best car on the grid but paired with Max I struggle to see anyone can come close. I see perez struggling throughout the season, 6 second gap won't be hard for ferrari to close, 22 second gap on the other hand is more than just a car upgrade or two...that's perfection and constancy from a driver only Red Bull have from Max.
I’ve got those Crofty (they’ve been on sale for a number of years in Australia). Very handy!
Max was just saving his engine the entire race.
They had lots of Coco Pops
Ok goodnight. Will continue....Hans Solo
Max is the by far the only reason R.Bull are where they are...........Perez only 2 secs ahead of Sainz, but 22 secs behind his team mate, come on chaps give Max his dues, I honestly believe you can put him in any team & he will not only completely destroy his team mate but would probably put that team on the podium, sit back, relax & watch the driver who will write himself into the history books of F1
Back in the day in WRC they used to add weight to the winners car for the next race,
everyone else is in last years redbull design, redbull in their own class
Adrian Newey said in an interview that Honda's involvement with Red Bull partially revitalized his interest in F1 a few years ago, I think he should go to Aston Martin when Honda goes in 2026 and see what they can do there together.
Well if the rumours are to be believed, he’ll go to Ferrari next year and then we’ll see what happens
That was only cause of the Renault PU frustration in previous years which meant his designs had to be built around Renault. RB are building there own engines going forward anyway so that isn't a restriction.
@@d.b.cooper1 Absolutely, Newey mentioned that they finally had an engine reliable and powerful enough to bring them to the front, but he also mentioned the Honda personnel themselves, to see how down they were from McLaren and how they were able to recover and have success was also a motivator.
Will Ferrari really relegate Leclerc as the second driver behind Lewis?
Leclerc earned his long term Ferrari seat because he didn't compromise with Vettel.
British media already creating a narrative that Lewis will spearhead the future of Ferrari as if Leclerc doesn't exist.
3:30 what on earth is she waffling on about
She hasn’t a notion. She doesn’t contribute anything to sky f1. Waffler
It’s fairly easy to understand…
@@rob-c. sorry wanted opinions on the grand prix not hotel sleepover
Have Bernie on every week. Get rid of this clown. Sorry but it has to be said.
Simon come straight from the bar?
Bar? strip club I bet
Simon always sounds hungover on the non race event coverage we see 🍻 🍻 🍻
The flip flops with the bottle opener also have go faster pumps at the back. Well worth the money
Wish f1 gets a new commentary team these makes the sports so dead wen a Brit ain’t winning
Isn't it funny that during the time of Mercedes dominance all we heard was how great Lewis was - I honestly couldn't tell you who on earth designed the Merc during those years. Yet, all we hear now is what a genius Adrian Newey is. He certainly is a genius but Max has a lot to do with Red Bull's success and for some reason Sky seem to be so unwilling to put any praise at his door. Jeez it's bloody heard to listen to at times.
Looking forward to Round 1 of the Indy Car championship so I can watch some car racing.
Me too I love it the unpredictability of it no one no who gonna win from one race to another
Watch Formula 2 it's on same weekends and F1 and currently more exciting storylines and racing to be had there. I watch F2 before F1 and even if F1 is boring I can at least know I got my racing fix in with F2. That's what made this most recent race bearable for me.
Do we just pretend mercedes didn't dominate for 8 years ?
Can’t believe how biased the guy in the dark shirt is. I mean 2021 wasn’t a great season because of AB ? … How about Silverstone 2021 ? How about Monza 2021 ? How about Brazil 2021 ? How about Baku 2021 ? I mean it’s hard to understand how he sells that entire season now reduced to one race …. Disappointing to say the least
The perfect way to sum 2021 season up is that if Max had not had his tire failure in Baku and then had not been taken out by Lewis at Silverstone, the drama in Abu Dhabi wouldn’t have even happened because Max would have already sealed the title
Think Simon needs to go sleep it off.
Think Simon needs to leave and never come back!
Yost knows making a move like openly being photographed talking to Toto would send RB in a spin. Just another strategy to put pressure on those in RB to give Christian the boot.
Exactly. Jos is behind the whole slander campaign, the complaint, leaking to Telegraaf AND the emails too. ALL Jos. Why? Cos he dates Fiona, the former PA of Horner, the woman of the complaint. Jos is out to damage Horner and get him fired. The whole paddock knows. And yes, he is on purpose getting filmed with Toto to force RB to fire Horner. Jos is a piece of sh*
Poor old Murray Walker would probably have fell asleep watching this race, 😔
Bottle opener at the bottom of a pair of flop-flop is a bad idea. Imagine those guys step on some dog shite and then use his flip-flop to ...
😂
Back in the days they weren’t saying Mercedes build 6 years a rocket engine! So predictable if the driver is not British!
Great podcast 👏 sending my ferret postcard now 🤣
Crofty needs to catch up, I've had a pair of those Reefs since 2010! lol
some gnarly edits in this ep 😀
They've never heard or Reef Mick Fanning flips? The bottle opener feature has been around for decades!
Other than that, fun show!
Crofty is all red after the marriage remarks 39:31 😂
As some have said below - the question is more why the other teams can't develop a consistently competitive car. The other teams must have guessed RB would find up to a second better performance that they needed some radical thinking to catch up. Max is definitely getting the best out of the car. Perez is not really a benchmark and other drivers would be much much closer on race day in the same car. Perhaps even quicker.............. debate!!!
RB was taking it easy on the softs. If they had hard may have been more ahead
Verstappen at Mercedes would be absolutely awesome for F1.
I would love a "Stick To Football" style podcast that Brundle or somebody else hosted with a cast of F1 personnel
21:36 and new aero rules
Probably due to the engine producing way more power than it should !.
If you like crashes, yellow @ red flags,
watch F2
Lawson in for Tsunoda for next race.
Btw Adrian Newey had nothing to do with the RB 19 and the RB 20, both cars came from the hands of Pierre Wache and his team , but you know these British Sky people.
Did anyone notice that the Mercedes cara were throwing *much* more sparks into the air than all the other cars... its ride-hide much have been extremely low... maybe wearing the plank into illegal.levels...? Was it checked after the race? Is such a clear difference in creating sparks a reason for the marshals to check those cars specifically?
Yes Merc we’re driving ‘too’ low, especially in FP’s. All commentators on F1TV said something abt that. They had to drive higher in the race which ofc made them slower… Merc is risking DSQ again…. Hoping not to get checked…
Yes FIA is allowed to pick extra cars if they suspect plank wear, but each race random cars are checked for that too, like in Austin
they will wait for an incident to happen before they policed it.
I’m just here for the popcorn and copium in the comments
Because when faced with an all new Formula Mercedes didn't have the talent to build another dominant car. They were huge beneficiaries of the initial turbo hybrid era with a 24 month headstart on the new engine regs (look it up) and it took years for the other teams to simply get to the point were they weren't blowing up MGU's. They had 50-75hp advantage for 5 years at least. The chassis was just ok. Which is why RB/Max was still able to nick 10 wins in the period. Shoes on the other foot now and they where to stubborn to see they built a dogs ass of a car two maybe three years in a row. True story.
missing Nico and Jensen from Weekend and this Podcast
It is a team effort for sure in execution, but in my opinion because of the success Newey has had everywhere he is clearly the man with the best (chasis and aerodynamically) ideas. The main reason Mercedes had there domination phase was their engine advantage
21:20 Haha that was so obvious edited in
39:15 Al Baik?
One word describing this sky panel of experts and…go
F1 needs Alan Gow to come in to ensure parity ;) Max needs some ballast.