Small correction: at 4:55 it's said that the maneuver must be started no lower than 1500ft agl. PA VII.B.S6 requires the maneuver to be *completed* no lower than 1500ft agl. Better give yourself some extra altitude...
Having spent most of my 14 years in the Air Force as an instructor/stan-eval pilot I can say with some confidence that you're a REALLY good instructor!
My school has a procedure called HASEL check list before stalls: Height - 2,000'+ AGL Area - Over practice area, farms Security - doors, windows, loose articles Engine - Primer, Master, Magnetos, Indicators, Carb heat, Mixture, Breakers Look out - two 90 degree turns or one 180 degree turn My PPL flight test is next month!!!
@@TheBrennan90actually, you may also want to look for a safe, uncontested area to perform maneuvers even if staying about the recommended altitude per regs.
One thing i didn't hear mentioned in this video is to ALWAYS have an emergency landing area picked out in case of engine failure etc. during the maneuver. great video !
They mentioned having already done the pre-manuever checklist (CLASS) which would include selecting a landing site. Likely cut it out of the video for the sake of time.
Love your videos! I find power off stalls easier than power on … those for me are trickier and taking me longer to become very comfortable doing. Especially the banked ones!
Another tip: Rudder work is essential here for keeping the nose straight. If your wing wants to dip, keep the aileron straight and straightened the airplane with your feet. I had a lot of a trouble on a DA-20 where it's a stick versus a yoke situation. When I would pull the stick back, I would unknowingly pull back at a slight angle and my left or right wing would dip first. I suppose it might be easier with a yoke but not by much.
I love your instruction on the power-off approach. I fly the RV-12 Van's Aircraft, and this video reminds me of my training on power-off approaches with my instructor.
Thank you for your video. I've been working on power off stalls, as my instructor showed me "simulate landing, power out, nose to 20 degrees attitude" which has led me often fighting off a nosedive... Knowing that it's acceptable to just bring the nose to horizon or slightly above? well, that might be my cheat code on the checkride. I hate the idea of not doing what I have been taught to do, but I'm thinking your way might make the maneuver easier 🤔
Once thing we do not discuss is the fact that if this happens during a flare, we will be in ground effect and as we recover we may settle into ground effect again thus having more lift. The biggest thing we all need to be concerned is having us and the student demonstrate smooth, precise, quick inputs, maintaining that heading as we could be very close to the ground and smooth and precise inputs are key.
Hi! Great channel! Can you make a video for universities for aviation bachelors degree? I am finishing atpl flight academy and I want to continue for a bachelor's degree but I don’t know which.. I would like to be better pilot and more competitive for a company because i am at 30s. i am a european citizen. please help me clear this out as is complicated i guess.. thank you!
Just a nit. It’s an approach stall, which is a specific type of power off stall. Others have pointed out the 1,500 foot hard base recommended by the FAA. All in all a nice video.
The checklist is called a HASSELLL check. Height - sufficient to recover by 2000 ft (not start the manoeuvre at 2000). And that is height AGL. Airframe - clean or dirty Safety and security - seatbelts and harness secure, no loose objects in the back, fire extinguisher secure. Engine T's and P's in the green, fuel pump on, fullest tank selected. Location - not within 5nm of an aerodrome, not less than 2000 ft AGL over an open air assembly of people, built up area, mountains or a large body of water. Landing - place to land in case it becomes a real emergency. Lookout - clearing turn
Man I’m really struggling with these!! I just can’t seem to hold it long enough so that it stalls, I let it go too early thinking I need to start recovering right away. I did 5 attempts today and couldn’t work out any of them 😩
I disagree with "take out the flaps early" - it's not specific enough! :-) take out first notch immediately (30 degree flaps are mostly for drag in C172) then take out the next notch when at safe airspeed (and climbing) then take out the final 10 degree of flaps when above all obstacles and at safe airspeed (and climbing)
Hello. Can you explain for me? You said we need to be a Vx or Vy but typically students are at cruise speed and already pitching up. Are they pitching up too soon cus cruise speed is higher than both Vx and Vy. Thanks 🙏
So is no carb heat heated added on decent ? Performed this exact maneuver with instructor and plane started shaking like carb ice build up. Weather was dry no humidity, slight drop in rpm and manifold pressure increased. We had to perform an emergency landing. Any one else ever experience anything like this.
Liz is such an amazing instructor. It's the best power off stall video i have seen
I wish my flight instructor had been this good at explaining power off stalls.
Small correction: at 4:55 it's said that the maneuver must be started no lower than 1500ft agl. PA VII.B.S6 requires the maneuver to be *completed* no lower than 1500ft agl. Better give yourself some extra altitude...
Having spent most of my 14 years in the Air Force as an instructor/stan-eval pilot I can say with some confidence that you're a REALLY good instructor!
My school has a procedure called HASEL check list before stalls:
Height - 2,000'+ AGL
Area - Over practice area, farms
Security - doors, windows, loose articles
Engine - Primer, Master, Magnetos, Indicators, Carb heat, Mixture, Breakers
Look out - two 90 degree turns or one 180 degree turn
My PPL flight test is next month!!!
For the area one. It's mostly for landing in case of emergency. Especially for ground reference maneuvers.
@@TheBrennan90actually, you may also want to look for a safe, uncontested area to perform maneuvers even if staying about the recommended altitude per regs.
How did you do? I passed mine last Sunday 🕺
One thing i didn't hear mentioned in this video is to ALWAYS have an emergency landing area picked out in case of engine failure etc. during the maneuver. great video !
They mentioned having already done the pre-manuever checklist (CLASS) which would include selecting a landing site. Likely cut it out of the video for the sake of time.
Good point, will do
Love your videos! I find power off stalls easier than power on … those for me are trickier and taking me longer to become very comfortable doing. Especially the banked ones!
Another tip:
Rudder work is essential here for keeping the nose straight. If your wing wants to dip, keep the aileron straight and straightened the airplane with your feet. I had a lot of a trouble on a DA-20 where it's a stick versus a yoke situation. When I would pull the stick back, I would unknowingly pull back at a slight angle and my left or right wing would dip first. I suppose it might be easier with a yoke but not by much.
I have the same problem with a yoke. When pulling back I have an unintentional habit of pulling down slightly when pulling straight back.
This breaking down instruction is very helpful!
I love your instruction on the power-off approach. I fly the RV-12 Van's Aircraft, and this video reminds me of my training on power-off approaches with my instructor.
Excellent video! I like how she connects to a real scenario in order to illustrate the value of the maneuver.
Thank you very much!
7:13 my instructor always makes me pull the nose way past the horizon and that usually makes me dizzy when I try to recover
I’m not a student pilot yet, but I like how you worded these details that many could understand well! 👍🙃
Really great content! Prepping for the CFI ride, and really enjoy the style of the teaching here.
wow best explanation ever!!! trust me I've watched so many videos and the visuals and reference to the bookl was good.
Thank you for your video. I've been working on power off stalls, as my instructor showed me "simulate landing, power out, nose to 20 degrees attitude" which has led me often fighting off a nosedive... Knowing that it's acceptable to just bring the nose to horizon or slightly above? well, that might be my cheat code on the checkride. I hate the idea of not doing what I have been taught to do, but I'm thinking your way might make the maneuver easier 🤔
I find your instruction videos very helpful, preparing g for a check ride in a few months..
Awesome video thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I wish you were my instructor 😔 your teaching style truly resonates
Amazing skills bravo 🙌🏾
Thank you 🙌
My checkride examiner had me do a turning departure stall. Never had tried it before that day. Passed
Great Demo
Great tips and advice Liz...Thanks.
I love this video so much it gives me a chance to practice easily and clearly.
Once thing we do not discuss is the fact that if this happens during a flare, we will be in ground effect and as we recover we may settle into ground effect again thus having more lift. The biggest thing we all need to be concerned is having us and the student demonstrate smooth, precise, quick inputs, maintaining that heading as we could be very close to the ground and smooth and precise inputs are key.
Well said Pablo! Thanks for your input!
Have you make a power on stall video ?
Did you bring the carb heat out?
Hi! Great channel! Can you make a video for universities for aviation bachelors degree? I am finishing atpl flight academy and I want to continue for a bachelor's degree but I don’t know which.. I would like to be better pilot and more competitive for a company because i am at 30s. i am a european citizen. please help me clear this out as is complicated i guess.. thank you!
What about carb heat in that landing config.
Fuel injected maybe….
@@tbone1212 Good catch - it is.
Great job! New subscriber, but baffled at the lack of comments. Ya’ll do a great job….greeting from Oklahoma City.
Thanks so much!
Just a nit. It’s an approach stall, which is a specific type of power off stall. Others have pointed out the 1,500 foot hard base recommended by the FAA. All in all a nice video.
Great information thanks.
Best performed about 3 inches above the runway threshold.
I’m terrified. Questioning if this Is really what i want to do?? 🤣🤣🤣
Right but I’m also excited 😂
Respectfully, I think Im in love with this woman.
As a student, I hate stalls. Never sits well with me. Think I'd rather go to the dentist. But practice makes perfect.
Practice makes proficient ….
I thought they were gonna be worse than what they really are
That's the problem that I have with eliminating spin training. Spin training gives you confidence in a stall.
About a week out from completing my PPL. Little less than 3 months since I started..my brain has stalled at this point. As well as my bank account.
@@johnsmithh662 I know the struggle 😅
The checklist is called a HASSELLL check.
Height - sufficient to recover by 2000 ft (not start the manoeuvre at 2000). And that is height AGL.
Airframe - clean or dirty
Safety and security - seatbelts and harness secure, no loose objects in the back, fire extinguisher secure.
Engine T's and P's in the green, fuel pump on, fullest tank selected.
Location - not within 5nm of an aerodrome, not less than 2000 ft AGL over an open air assembly of people, built up area, mountains or a large body of water.
Landing - place to land in case it becomes a real emergency.
Lookout - clearing turn
We go by, CHAPS. CLEARING TURNS, HEADING SET, ALTITUDE SET, PLACE TO LAND, SEATBELTS.
Man I’m really struggling with these!! I just can’t seem to hold it long enough so that it stalls, I let it go too early thinking I need to start recovering right away. I did 5 attempts today and couldn’t work out any of them 😩
Same here....
I disagree with "take out the flaps early" - it's not specific enough! :-)
take out first notch immediately (30 degree flaps are mostly for drag in C172)
then take out the next notch when at safe airspeed (and climbing)
then take out the final 10 degree of flaps when above all obstacles and at safe airspeed (and climbing)
In the c172s poh for balked landing / go around its flaps 20 immediately. 10°at 60kts and 0° at 65kts
Hello. Can you explain for me? You said we need to be a Vx or Vy but typically students are at cruise speed and already pitching up. Are they pitching up too soon cus cruise speed is higher than both Vx and Vy. Thanks 🙏
You would normally be at best glide speed because you would be in the process of landing. So for me it would be 65kts.
So is no carb heat heated added on decent ? Performed this exact maneuver with instructor and plane started shaking like carb ice build up. Weather was dry no humidity, slight drop in rpm and manifold pressure increased. We had to perform an emergency landing. Any one else ever experience anything like this.
sorry was in
in a Cessna 172
It depends on where they are and what time of year it is, altitude as well. They were at 2500. Relatively low.
Don't start at 1500ft. You can't go below 1500.
Carb heat anyone??
How do people not realize that the student pilot intentionally cut the power as part of the training?
He's not a student - he's an instructor. Pulling the power back (not off) is required to do the maneuver.