The country that built the fantastic Harrier jumpjet has just made humans jump jet too.🇬🇧❤️Sure it has limitations flight time 12 minutes but it is carrying an adult man,- but as long as you have a target area to go to such as a patient up a mountain or boarding a ship, its more than useful.
That was a great link between the 2 inventions..yes us brits can do some really good things afterall we invented the jet engine too but this has got so good.
I should imagine that a jet suit has limited military usefulness apart from being a "Wow!" RM promotional gimic. Just think how vulnerable that RM Commando would be to small arms fire.
Germans had Flettner FL282 'Colibri' helo in progressive introduction, mostly as communications and artillery spotting from around 1942 on. US had the Sikorksy R4 which was inducted into the US army in 1942.
I remember seeing the prototype been flown by the inventor whilst been tethered for the first flights. The original was derived from rc model jet engines but I imagine they have improved since then. The 2 on each arm provides direction & stability. The backpack provides main lift and fuel tank.
Gravity is the name of the startup that developed the concept and as you can see it has been adopted by the Royal Marines as a future force multiplier, so this is exploring the potential & training to fly in a real tactical scenario of boarding at sea. Initial boarding from a RHIB is difficult to get the ladder on and defend from fire from above, this potentially minimises that risk. Marine will wear body armour and I’m sure that the development of the flight system will eventually extend both the carry weight and duration
I remember the James Bond 1965 film Thunderball. Where he used an amazing jetpack to escape the baddies. What we didn't know at the time that it was was built by Bell-Textron and originally designed for the US army - but was deemed too dangerous to use because it ran out of fuel in 20 to 22 seconds.
it was actually a rocket pack and also used toxic fuel burning at temperatures and pressures that were just too risky, plus 22 seconds is not enough time to do much, they did produce a jet engine version but it only flew once and was ludicrously huge, now tech has advanced so far you could build this in your shed with off the shelf parts
If I remember correctly this was actually designed and developed by a Royal Marines commando who then brought it in to show the military and they’ve joined him on the project. Which is why it’s exclusively commandos seen in the testing of it
Frigging coolest bit of kit I’ve ever seen- I went to an army future technology’s open day back in 2007ish, the most impressive bit of kit they showed was a camera that could scan an individuals retina from almost 1/4 mile away, we were told everything we had seen had been in use in the military for over a decade so you can imagine what tech they have behind the scenes today!!!!?
The next key development will be aimed at a control system that leaves the arms free, the current set up means the marine is defenceless until the nozzle pack on the hand is ditched on landing
I remember the prototype on tv a few years ago and it's great to see it being used practically . The Royal Marine pilots look effortless in this exercise . I would imagine it's a great way for accessing difficult locations for Rescue or resupply , but I would imagine the pilots would be vulnerable in combat situations .
You can buy one yourself if you want. I believe that the current price is around $400k... If that's too much then you can go on an experience day in the UK and learn how to fly one (while attached to safety lines). I think that Gravity Industries are attempting to set up a racing league over lakes to try and gain more funding/sponsorship. The pilot in this video is the inventor, Richard Browning (a former Royal Marine). Range of the current version is around 5km on standard diesel.
Both the Germans and the Americans had helicopters in ww2. In 1943 the Sikorsky H4 prototype was used to carry medial supplies to a stricken American ship. An American helicopter was used in Burma during the later stages of the war.
I ws interested in the what happens if he falls in the water question a while back, so I did some reading on the manufacturers website, apparently they float... the jet packs... so I imagine they take it off and let it float. If you want they're at the very beginning of developing the use and tactics of using them, it'll get better and better.
We have built a new fleet of warships, not including our two super carriers, that have been rolling out the docks for the past 2 years. Our submarine fleet has been refurbished and we are about to launch the fast interceptor English channel flotilla again, which got delayed as we gave the original ships to Ukraine. Sadly, good news and pride in our Navy doesn't seem to be in favour with our MSM, but if you look at the military channels British maritime innovations are coming fast and furious and very very impressive.
Anyone who has actually served in the military would know they are not necessarily good things to brag about. MSM blah blah trumpet blowing about paper tigers would only invite comment from people who actually know about these things.
Kind of agree, but most of our new warships are in the process of being built. HMS Glasgow, our first new type 26 Frigate is still a few years away from being operational. There are directed energy weapons under development as well as new drones, but as always there are budgetary constraints....
@@revbenf6870 it’s all good stuff. But it hasn’t got the manpower, the logistics or like you say the funding. They aren’t paying enough to attract more people to the jobs so these shiny big ticket items would be pointless in any state scale conflict.
The guy you see flying for most of the clip is Richard Browning, a former Royal Marine reservist turned inventor. He actually designed the jet pack from scratch and has been one of its main test pilots, that's why he flies it so well. These aren't actually military jet suits, they were just doing testing with them to see if they'd be useful in naval operations. He did infantry maneuvrability testing with the Dutch Armed Forces as well iirc. Looking it up these things cost like $450,000+ (USD) each, have a max altitude of 2000ft and a flight time of roughly 10 minutes. I'll leave it up to the internet masterminds to debate if you think that will be useful in a tactical/military sense. If you want to fly one as a civilian you can for $3500 in London or L.A.
Tamar was also a commercial pleasure craft, moored at Trent Bridge, plying it's trade as a booze cruiser. In a previous life it took part in the evacuation of Dunkirk. Not a lot of people know that either.
I mean that's very, very cool, and I'm sure they'll find lots of stuff to do with it, I'm just saying, boarding a ship is probably not going to be one of them, mainly because you probably don't want to end up on someone else's ship when they're both well aware you're there and you are unarmed. If they have weapons, you're most likely dead. If they don't have weapons, you absolutely do not need to board them with a jet pack. But it is freaky cool, no question. I'd be interested to see what happens if you point one of the thrusters at a person when it's running, mind you, arguably that could constitute a fair weapon in and of itself, I suppose.
I watched a video of an American (I think woman) a few years after this was invented having a jet pack, taking off very slowly and carefully, moving about 20 ft, then coming back to land very carefully. With everyone 'whooping' and cheering. I just thought, well, you can guess.
Imagine terrorists capture a ship. One or two Marines, SAS or SBS could land on the ship, at night with night vision. and drop ladders over the side for their colleagues.
Search an Rescue is an amazing use for this, think I saw it go up a mountain in conditions unsuitable for choppers and the guy made it to the top in 3 minutes.
As others have commented the guy in the jet pack is the inventor and ex marine. Think it’s basically a concept he’s trying to sell to buyers. Obvious problems with it are the noise (not very sneaky for commando insertion), and that it would require cover from snipers or support weapons as he cannot manipulate a weapon while in the air. Very cool though and every invention has to be modified somehow. Am sure it could be amazing if they figure out how to use it, just seeing someone flying towards you would probably stun most people! By the way the first helo (helicopter) assault was by Royal Marines too. In the not so successful suez crisis in the 50’s, 45 commando successfully landed and surprised the “enemy” in Suez, Egypt.
I believe that Ogwen Valley Mountain Rescue Team have got two of these (not sure?) and they have been extensively tested in the Lake District too. One of these gets to the top of Helvellyn in an insane 3.5 minutes. In the paramedic/first response role they are supposed to be superb and more airworthy than helicopters in bad weather too.
The jet suit is still being trialled by the Royal Marines, but I remember seeing something a year or more back that said it can achieve 80mph, and duration was around 10 minutes. They even did an altitude test and it achieved 12000 feet! That was before it ran out of fuel and the operator (pilot?) descended on a Parachute. It can only carry light loads, and any extra weight starts to impact its duration. There are developments in hand to significantly improve its duration and load carrying capacity. At the moment, Armoured assault troops are still in the realms of sci-fi, although it probably won't be many years before it becomes a possibility. Having said that, my information is only what's public domain, and who knows how far they've got behind closed doors.
6:12 🤓This is a _ship,_ Conor - HMS Tamar to be exact. Recently returned from Evacuation Control Centre operations off the East Coast of China... You can buy an experience day with this jetsuit thing at Goodward, btw. Costs £2,200 - which is cheaper than I'd imagined!
Hey Conor👍great reaction, yes there were helicopters in WW2 but not heavy duty gun platforms. The German Flettner hummingbird helicopter was the first used in a true military role and first series production helicopter, it was used as a submarine spotter and was a single seater, first flew(hovered) in 1941
@@roberthall7830 pretty certain no, helicopters were not used in combat military roles until the Korean War (1950-53) and were only used during WW2 in noncombative interactions. I haven't seen or can find anything before autogyros developed in the 1920s the precursor to helicopters. This does not make me 100%right so if you've got any info I'll look it up. 👍
In the 1968 film WHERE EAGLE'S DARE, a WW2 film, a bell 47 helicopter was used briefly in one scene. The Germans had 2 types of helicopter in operation, not many, due to factories being bombed. They used a bell 47, as seen in M.A.S.H. They were operational from 1946.
Helicopters were flown by US 1st Air Commando of Tenth Air Force in support of British 14th Army in Burma, SEAC. They were used for Medical Evacuation (in conjunction with light Aircraft) for units such as the "Chindits" on Long Range Patrol deep into Japanese held territory. This would count as a "Combat" Mission. The first rescue mission was April 1944 using a Sikorsky R4 Hoverfly
I know that one of the proposed uses for the jet suit is for mountain rescue to get a paramedic to someone quickly to stabilise an accident victim while waiting for support.
There is a company called Microjets which developed these small but powerful propulsion turbines. Originally designed to be fitted to electric vehicles as a back up charging system. With the rapid advances in battery technology, there is not the need now for them but good to see that they are being put to good use.
Check out the Eric 'Winkle' Brown documentaries and you won't regret it! Some of them also show film of the Focke-Wulf FW61 flying from 1936 onwards. The US claims to be first with Sikorsky but you have to insert the word 'Practical' for that to be true though? Autogyros had been flying 'sucessfully' since 1923. 'British Helicopters History' is a good documentary about Eric, if a bit too long to react too, probably? I believe in 1943, the Germans were going to attempt to rescue Mussolini from the Gran Sasso massif in Italy, using a helicopter but it had to be changed at the last minute due to one of the few available crashing?
It's pretty cool tech, but I think to make it more viable it has to be supported by more automation in control and some type of redesign for the 2x2 hand-supported engines so it's easier to switch over to your weapon. Also there's still some questions on practicality since it can take some time to start the engines if they cool down, and you can't just leave them on idle either due to noise and fuel consumption (and the issue that they would burn anything they point at). The example shown is probably one of the best use-cases, quick-boarding or entry onto an otherwise inaccessible target then you dump the pack and go in as usual. They've also shown them for rescue work out in the wilderness, for accessing also then impractical or otherwise inaccessible areas where for example a helicopter wouldn't be practical. In theory "anyone" could build a version of this rig or at least the earlier versions of it, you just need enough money. Those engines are rather expensive (a few thousand dollars each iirc), but commercially available model/light aircraft engines. The real juicy stuff in it is the engine controllers (for synching the output force of them) and of course all the gained knowledge the company has in making models that didn't work (materials, etc etc...), in order to get where they are now.
Iv always thought some sort of shoulder mounted smg that tracks a lazer attatched to the helmet would be the best way to add combat capability in flight.
There's been a lot of development since this video was made and they've been looking at how to use it not just for military purposes but all sorts of stuff - a lot of people shouted it down at first but there was a time in the history of every invention when they were clunky and we didn't know how to use them from the car to the computer to the phone; now look at them. As for flying cars they're a thing, you just can't afford them, the airspace is limited and you need a license: there's probably going to be a time when none of those things are true, but it isn't going to be long - 5-10 years give or take - when you can take one instead of an Uber and that might be good enough. By the way, Tom Scott did a video on learning to fly this (because of course he did).
At least we saw two of them flying at the same time. Before that I wondered how many tries it took to make it look easy for one to fly, thinking of a boarding with fifty of them where twenty slams into the side of the ship or ends up in the water for other reasons. But it looks better than that. Not just one lucky take. If they only could drop the whole thing in a couple of seconds after landing to engage an enemy, it would be very effective. It seems to be strapped to both arms and legs, but imagine all of them being able to just drop in fully equipped without most having to climb onboard after the first one. I imagine it isn't silent enough for this to be a safe covert boarding, without the ship's crew noticing anything.
It’s a gimmick ! In its current form it’s been touted to anyone daft enough to buy it Maybe in the future when it can A) easily removed B) not as dangerous to the operator C) carry a normal marine / soldier and just as importantly weapons radio Then it maybe of some use Many companies have tried out this concept for over 20 plus years - still not a viable option to take a fully equipped soldier into battle and back It has been tried by many but the same with paramedics if you cannot carry emergency kit, plasma, defibrillator, oxygen, your just left with a paramedic with no kit
I read somewhere that the military tech is 9 years ahead of civilian stuff, as an amateur I feel that suit would be great as a boarding bridgehead but there would need to be an ability to be able to fight immediately on touch down or lay down some sort of cover I.e. smoke or flash bangs if the opposition were close
The ship looks like one of our batch2 River class OPVs, which have extra provision to embark a military/marines detachment of up to 50, as well as having an oboard CMS oufit rounded off with a full military comms fit, GPS and WECDIS. So what you're obviously speculating on, may not be too wide of the mark. In any case, several 3rd world areas still with pirate problems do lie within the ships designated patrol zones.
The first helicopter was built by Denny's Shipyard, Dumbarton, Scotland, and flew befor WW1. Development was cancelled to concentrate on ships when WW1 broke out.
We have had this technology for a while and it's not limited to the forces, in the Lake district in England we have paramedics who can use the jetpacks to get up to injured hikers up on the fells much quicker than any other means, i think they can be with an injured person in 3 minutes.
Ultimately the concept is pretty simple, you could probably build your own with 4 RC jet turbines, a heat resistant suit (fire suit/boiler suit) and a backpack with a fuel tank, you could probably just use gyros/vr haptics and an arduino for stability/throttle.
Back to the future came out when I was a kid and the director did some children’s TV show interview and he said that the hover board did exist. (I don’t think he quite realise what he was saying with the stir he was going to cause ) So that was it. Every child wanted one and we all knew at least one kid who said he’d been on one.
I believe the competent demonstrator featured in this video is the guy who invented/developed this jet pack. You need to look at the Company’s many display videos on RUclips, just search for: ‘Gravity Industries’
It is awesome however its been pointed out elsewhere that this is a nifty idea but not practical. Yet. Because they need both hands to operate it, therefore cant use small arms fire, therefore a sitting duck if people on a boat spot them. Its a more useful application for mountain rescue right now. But its exciting where this tech will go in future.
Have you seen the French version which is basically a hover board .....this is like a marvel film .....check it out ...even though this Is more useful.
The US developed the perfect motor for a jet pack in a program in the 80’s. The only thing was the jet motor was to good, the jet pack program was shut down and the jet motor, it was use to power tomahawk cruise missiles.
They were experimenting with rocket packs the first prototype that was used for military operations was experimented in Vietnam they started working on the project 3 Korea for jetpacks
The first true self-powered rotorcraft was an autogyro invented in 1923. Helicopters soon followed. All the major participants in WW2 used helicopters, although the load-carrying capacity wasn't massive. The main roles were casualty evacuation, reconnaissance, insertion of troops, resupply of small units, sea patrol from ships etc. Here's a link to lists of helicopters and autogyros used by the ww2 nations. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rotorcraft_used_in_World_War_II
There were some helicopters developed at the tail end of ww2. Think it was the Germans. Helicopters came into their own as you suggested during the Korean war of the 50's
I believe the first operational use of helicopters was the US, who used them in the Pacific Theatre (I think) in 1943 or 44. The use was in a support role rather than combat, either medical or evac. That would be the Sikorsky R-4, but the Germans also had them, with Hanna Reitsch flying one inside a large exhibition hall before the war, possibly 1938. I am not sure if the Germans used helicopters operationally during the war though.
The other thing is, this is an exercise. How well are they going to work in a combat scenario where people are shooting at them. that jetpack guy looks unarmed.
This thing is expensive but not nearly as much as you think. This was developed privately by a guy, former Royal Marine (I vaguely remember maybe with the help of a relative like maybe his father) and it's based on 5 micro jet turbines similar to those used in RC airplanes, they are fairly expensive being a few thousand $/£/€ for each engine(imagine something usually in the range of 2000-6000$/€ depending on the specs). but that's the main component of this thing, the rest is figuring out how to make them work with fuel, electronics, how to make the flight controllable and safe for the operator....Not saying it's a cheap gadget but it should be way less expensive than 1Milion$ by a large margin. Lets take 5 engines, to be conservative let's say they cost 10'000$ each, we are at 50k$, these engines are most likely the overwelming majority of the final cost, but even if we double this we are at 100k$... it's still a price comparable with many general aviation airplanes or some expensive off-road vehicles(a basic HMMWV starts at about 70k$, reaching 160k-220k$ for up-armored ones), there are even some high performance Ultralight airplanes that cost about twice as much even on second-hand market (Blackshape Prime or Pelegrin Tarragon for example). I'm no expert but even in this display I can spot at least a couple of big issues for a practical military use... 1) they are noisy and 2) the operator has both his hands busy while flying (and for some time after landing) So the operator is very vulnerable during flight and for some time after being landed on the ship, and at the same time there is no way that he can board the ship stealthly without alerting everyone onboard producing all that noise.
The French have some kind of flying personnel carrier but they stand on it allowing them to carry arms. Seem to remember that a guy tried to cross the English Channel on one. 2019 if my memory serves me well.
These jet packs are also used by a couple of mountain search and rescue organisations in Britain . Much easier to get first aid to an injured climber in an hour or two this way than maybe 8 hours of walking - especially if there is no way for helicopter or ambulance access. As for their development - i would say from the early to mid 60s. James Bond 007 used one with Sean Connery and in the early 90s Michael Jackson used to end each show during his Dangerous world tour by appearing to fly off stage in a jet pack (most likely a stunt double though).
I mean when it comes to over-estimating the future; you have to remember more time has passed between now and Apollo 11 landing on the Moon, than passed between the Wright brothers' first powered flight and the Moon landings. If you told anyone in the 1973 noone would return for over 50 years they'd have thought you were crazy.
So they have had actual jet packs since the 50's but it's never had a flight time longer then 5- 10 mins becuase of the size of the tank .... And these perticular ones with the jets on the arms rather than the back are anew design made in the UK and have a longer flight time of around 15-20 mins and are actually being trained for by the mountain rescue paramedics so that they can get to the patient quicker and get the patient ready for moving
No bryan .... those were rocket packs as displayed in James Bond (Thunderball?) and had a flight time of 15-20 SECONDS, so never viable! Jets are recent development and much more fuel efficient.
@@mikemikemick there is a big difference between a sales oriented demonstration and "use" by a MR team. Even the ambulance service could never afford the equipment or training. The demonstration in the Lake district actually proved its problems. The area is over 2,000 Square kilometers and is covered by TWELVE Mountain Rescue teams. So where will the equipment be kept - how many trained pilots - travel time to launch point - etc etc. Jolly good fantasy film for people who know nothing about Search & Rescue in the UK
The operator would be terribly vulnerable during the approach and, since he uses both hands to control his flight he can't even use a weapon while airborne. Still an impressive demonstration though!
The country that built the fantastic Harrier jumpjet has just made humans jump jet too.🇬🇧❤️Sure it has limitations flight time 12 minutes but it is
carrying an adult man,- but as long as you have a target area to go to such as a patient up a mountain or boarding a ship, its more than useful.
That was a great link between the 2 inventions..yes us brits can do some really good things afterall we invented the jet engine too but this has got so good.
These are also being used in mountain rescue in the UK for first-responders to get to people in hard-to-reach areas extremely quickly
I saw them doing the trials. It’s a mega bit of kit. Loads of applications
That technology has been developed by a former Royal Marine Comando
I actually ask you to watch more Royal Marine videos, they are bloody epic
Yeah Gravity Industries, I think it will be more useful for mountain rescue. They are very loud, short range. But cool nontheless
@@tbrowniscool They'd need to perform epically in strong winds for mountain rescue.
The guys flying the jet packs are not serving Soldier's, They are employed by the company that make the jet packs.
I should imagine that a jet suit has limited military usefulness apart from being a "Wow!" RM promotional gimic.
Just think how vulnerable that RM Commando would be to small arms fire.
Best one of these is when they demo this off the carrier Queen Elizabeth for an American audience. Very impressive.
Absolutely, it is so 'slick' and the filming is sharp... You could tell the audience were IMPRESSED !!! Well worth a look.
We have had these for 20 months (2020) I saw a mountain rescue unit use one. They are a private company invention.
Germans had Flettner FL282 'Colibri' helo in progressive introduction, mostly as communications and artillery spotting from around 1942 on. US had the Sikorksy R4 which was inducted into the US army in 1942.
I remember seeing the prototype been flown by the inventor whilst been tethered for the first flights. The original was derived from rc model jet engines but I imagine they have improved since then. The 2 on each arm provides direction & stability. The backpack provides main lift and fuel tank.
Gravity is the name of the startup that developed the concept and as you can see it has been adopted by the Royal Marines as a future force multiplier, so this is exploring the potential & training to fly in a real tactical scenario of boarding at sea. Initial boarding from a RHIB is difficult to get the ladder on and defend from fire from above, this potentially minimises that risk. Marine will wear body armour and I’m sure that the development of the flight system will eventually extend both the carry weight and duration
So many inventions in the UK started as being developed for military use, fleece, licence plate recognition software etc.
Sikorsky,Polish,
The jet suit has been trialled for mountain rescue as well. Massively faster to fly up a mountain a few feet off the ground.
I remember the James Bond 1965 film Thunderball. Where he used an amazing jetpack to escape the baddies. What we didn't know at the time that it was was built by Bell-Textron and originally designed for the US army - but was deemed too dangerous to use because it ran out of fuel in 20 to 22 seconds.
A new bond with this version got to be done
@@stephen9462 I quite liked the 1991 Rocketeer movie, but it bombed at the box office.
it was actually a rocket pack and also used toxic fuel burning at temperatures and pressures that were just too risky, plus 22 seconds is not enough time to do much, they did produce a jet engine version but it only flew once and was ludicrously huge, now tech has advanced so far you could build this in your shed with off the shelf parts
@@stevenr6397 Flyer ,flyer pants on fire eh?
Don't often see the word "Corringham" online. I'm from Stanford.
It's a regular now, most mountain rescues used it here now
If I remember correctly this was actually designed and developed by a Royal Marines commando who then brought it in to show the military and they’ve joined him on the project. Which is why it’s exclusively commandos seen in the testing of it
Frigging coolest bit of kit I’ve ever seen- I went to an army future technology’s open day back in 2007ish, the most impressive bit of kit they showed was a camera that could scan an individuals retina from almost 1/4 mile away, we were told everything we had seen had been in use in the military for over a decade so you can imagine what tech they have behind the scenes today!!!!?
They are starting to use jetpacks here in the Lake District for mountain rescue.
The next key development will be aimed at a control system that leaves the arms free, the current set up means the marine is defenceless until the nozzle pack on the hand is ditched on landing
I remember the prototype on tv a few years ago and it's great to see it being used practically . The Royal Marine pilots look effortless in this exercise . I would imagine it's a great way for accessing difficult locations for Rescue or resupply , but I would imagine the pilots would be vulnerable in combat situations .
I have seen a race on “ Top Gear”between one of these and a 4x4 rally car I think it was, up a forested mountain.
You can buy one yourself if you want. I believe that the current price is around $400k...
If that's too much then you can go on an experience day in the UK and learn how to fly one (while attached to safety lines). I think that Gravity Industries are attempting to set up a racing league over lakes to try and gain more funding/sponsorship.
The pilot in this video is the inventor, Richard Browning (a former Royal Marine).
Range of the current version is around 5km on standard diesel.
I was guessing about £500k, so not far off :)
Both the Germans and the Americans had helicopters in ww2. In 1943 the Sikorsky H4 prototype was used to carry medial supplies to a stricken American ship.
An American helicopter was used in Burma during the later stages of the war.
I ws interested in the what happens if he falls in the water question a while back, so I did some reading on the manufacturers website, apparently they float... the jet packs... so I imagine they take it off and let it float.
If you want they're at the very beginning of developing the use and tactics of using them, it'll get better and better.
Oh on your point about flying cars well we do have that but they are called helicopters, light aircraft, micro lights and wind surfers
We have built a new fleet of warships, not including our two super carriers, that have been rolling out the docks for the past 2 years. Our submarine fleet has been refurbished and we are about to launch the fast interceptor English channel flotilla again, which got delayed as we gave the original ships to Ukraine. Sadly, good news and pride in our Navy doesn't seem to be in favour with our MSM, but if you look at the military channels British maritime innovations are coming fast and furious and very very impressive.
Anyone who has actually served in the military would know they are not necessarily good things to brag about. MSM blah blah trumpet blowing about paper tigers would only invite comment from people who actually know about these things.
Kind of agree, but most of our new warships are in the process of being built. HMS Glasgow, our first new type 26 Frigate is still a few years away from being operational. There are directed energy weapons under development as well as new drones, but as always there are budgetary constraints....
@@revbenf6870 it’s all good stuff. But it hasn’t got the manpower, the logistics or like you say the funding. They aren’t paying enough to attract more people to the jobs so these shiny big ticket items would be pointless in any state scale conflict.
And yet we can't stop inflatable dinghies coming ashore on the Kent coast!
Good try. Now explain why our most expensivewarship ever can’tactually put to sea because it doesn’t work.
The guy you see flying for most of the clip is Richard Browning, a former Royal Marine reservist turned inventor. He actually designed the jet pack from scratch and has been one of its main test pilots, that's why he flies it so well. These aren't actually military jet suits, they were just doing testing with them to see if they'd be useful in naval operations. He did infantry maneuvrability testing with the Dutch Armed Forces as well iirc.
Looking it up these things cost like $450,000+ (USD) each, have a max altitude of 2000ft and a flight time of roughly 10 minutes. I'll leave it up to the internet masterminds to debate if you think that will be useful in a tactical/military sense.
If you want to fly one as a civilian you can for $3500 in London or L.A.
Only £2,200 at Goodward! #bargain 😬
like yep they going to say what it realy does ,not having a pop sir but yep this one for show this one for well
Fun fact. The ship is HMS TAMAR. The Tamar before her ( when I was serving) was the shore base in Hong Kong. Not a lot of people know that 😉
I remember it well.
Tamar was also a commercial pleasure craft, moored at Trent Bridge, plying it's trade as a booze cruiser. In a previous life it took part in the evacuation of Dunkirk. Not a lot of people know that either.
@@markrainford1219 i certainly didn’t know that. Served at the other.
@@nilocnolnah6788 Nice one Colin.🇦🇮🇬🇧
(closest flag I could find 😔)
In Britain on one of the news channels the mountain rescue are using them to to get to victims who are injured lost hypothermic etc.
I mean that's very, very cool, and I'm sure they'll find lots of stuff to do with it, I'm just saying, boarding a ship is probably not going to be one of them, mainly because you probably don't want to end up on someone else's ship when they're both well aware you're there and you are unarmed. If they have weapons, you're most likely dead. If they don't have weapons, you absolutely do not need to board them with a jet pack.
But it is freaky cool, no question.
I'd be interested to see what happens if you point one of the thrusters at a person when it's running, mind you, arguably that could constitute a fair weapon in and of itself, I suppose.
Those packs are being trialed in the UK right now by mountain rescue and paramedics.
I watched a video of an American (I think woman) a few years after this was invented having a jet pack, taking off very slowly and carefully, moving about 20 ft, then coming back to land very carefully. With everyone 'whooping' and cheering. I just thought, well, you can guess.
Platoon is about 30 blokes plus command ring, regiment is 3-5,000
Loved your enthusiasm watching that video Connor !
WOW!!…..that does it!…next lifetime I’m gonna be a Royal Marine !…YEAH BABY ! Thanks for the heads up ✨👍🤗
That self interruption was perfectly timed "if I made a movie about flying cars" ""Yeah sure I'll react to that"
Imagine terrorists capture a ship. One or two Marines, SAS or SBS could land on the ship, at night with night vision. and drop ladders over the side for their colleagues.
Overall, four jet engines are not particularly quiet.
Search an Rescue is an amazing use for this, think I saw it go up a mountain in conditions unsuitable for choppers and the guy made it to the top in 3 minutes.
As a bootneck Mum and wife they never fail to surprise. Hoofing lads. Just hoofing.
They had helicopters at the end of WW2 in Burma, rescuing casualties, The Sikorsky R4.
As others have commented the guy in the jet pack is the inventor and ex marine. Think it’s basically a concept he’s trying to sell to buyers. Obvious problems with it are the noise (not very sneaky for commando insertion), and that it would require cover from snipers or support weapons as he cannot manipulate a weapon while in the air. Very cool though and every invention has to be modified somehow. Am sure it could be amazing if they figure out how to use it, just seeing someone flying towards you would probably stun most people!
By the way the first helo (helicopter) assault was by Royal Marines too. In the not so successful suez crisis in the 50’s, 45 commando successfully landed and surprised the “enemy” in Suez, Egypt.
I guess it'll get quieter as each iteration is developed, and he'll be firing weapons with his eyes before long... 😬👀
@@221b-Maker-Street Royal Marines already are steely eyed dealers of death……so close 😛
I believe that Ogwen Valley Mountain Rescue Team have got two of these (not sure?) and they have been extensively tested in the Lake District too. One of these gets to the top of Helvellyn in an insane 3.5 minutes. In the paramedic/first response role they are supposed to be superb and more airworthy than helicopters in bad weather too.
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They are also looking at equipping para medics/mountain rescue with this 'kit'
Germany had some helicopters in WWII
The jet suit is still being trialled by the Royal Marines, but I remember seeing something a year or more back that said it can achieve 80mph, and duration was around 10 minutes.
They even did an altitude test and it achieved 12000 feet! That was before it ran out of fuel and the operator (pilot?) descended on a Parachute.
It can only carry light loads, and any extra weight starts to impact its duration.
There are developments in hand to significantly improve its duration and load carrying capacity.
At the moment, Armoured assault troops are still in the realms of sci-fi, although it probably won't be many years before it becomes a possibility.
Having said that, my information is only what's public domain, and who knows how far they've got behind closed doors.
It is a ship, not a boat.
6:12 🤓This is a _ship,_ Conor - HMS Tamar to be exact. Recently returned from Evacuation Control Centre operations off the East Coast of China...
You can buy an experience day with this jetsuit thing at Goodward, btw. Costs £2,200 - which is cheaper than I'd imagined!
The first time helicopters were used as part of an all arms attack was Suez. It revolutionised landing paras and evacuated injured men.
Hey Conor👍great reaction, yes there were helicopters in WW2 but not heavy duty gun platforms. The German Flettner hummingbird helicopter was the first used in a true military role and first series production helicopter, it was used as a submarine spotter and was a single seater, first flew(hovered) in 1941
There was a helicopter in ww1
@@roberthall7830 pretty certain no, helicopters were not used in combat military roles until the Korean War (1950-53) and were only used during WW2 in noncombative interactions. I haven't seen or can find anything before autogyros developed in the 1920s the precursor to helicopters. This does not make me 100%right so if you've got any info I'll look it up. 👍
The US operated the Sikorsky R-4 in WW2 in the Pacific theatre.
In the 1968 film WHERE EAGLE'S DARE, a
WW2 film, a bell 47 helicopter was used briefly in one scene.
The Germans had 2 types of helicopter in operation, not many, due to factories being bombed.
They used a bell 47, as seen in M.A.S.H. They were operational from 1946.
Helicopters were flown by US 1st Air Commando of Tenth Air Force in support of British 14th Army in Burma, SEAC. They were used for Medical Evacuation (in conjunction with light Aircraft) for units such as the "Chindits" on Long Range Patrol deep into Japanese held territory. This would count as a "Combat" Mission. The first rescue mission was April 1944 using a Sikorsky R4 Hoverfly
I know that one of the proposed uses for the jet suit is for mountain rescue to get a paramedic to someone quickly to stabilise an accident victim while waiting for support.
There is a company called Microjets which developed these small but powerful propulsion turbines. Originally designed to be fitted to electric vehicles as a back up charging system. With the rapid advances in battery technology, there is not the need now for them but good to see that they are being put to good use.
imagine a swarm a while platoon, high speed low level raids on ships. Or rescues. Or medical support.
Check out the Eric 'Winkle' Brown documentaries and you won't regret it! Some of them also show film of the Focke-Wulf FW61 flying from 1936 onwards. The US claims to be first with Sikorsky but you have to insert the word 'Practical' for that to be true though? Autogyros had been flying 'sucessfully' since 1923. 'British Helicopters History' is a good documentary about Eric, if a bit too long to react too, probably?
I believe in 1943, the Germans were going to attempt to rescue Mussolini from the Gran Sasso massif in Italy, using a helicopter but it had to be changed at the last minute due to one of the few available crashing?
It's pretty cool tech, but I think to make it more viable it has to be supported by more automation in control and some type of redesign for the 2x2 hand-supported engines so it's easier to switch over to your weapon. Also there's still some questions on practicality since it can take some time to start the engines if they cool down, and you can't just leave them on idle either due to noise and fuel consumption (and the issue that they would burn anything they point at). The example shown is probably one of the best use-cases, quick-boarding or entry onto an otherwise inaccessible target then you dump the pack and go in as usual. They've also shown them for rescue work out in the wilderness, for accessing also then impractical or otherwise inaccessible areas where for example a helicopter wouldn't be practical.
In theory "anyone" could build a version of this rig or at least the earlier versions of it, you just need enough money. Those engines are rather expensive (a few thousand dollars each iirc), but commercially available model/light aircraft engines. The real juicy stuff in it is the engine controllers (for synching the output force of them) and of course all the gained knowledge the company has in making models that didn't work (materials, etc etc...), in order to get where they are now.
Iv always thought some sort of shoulder mounted smg that tracks a lazer attatched to the helmet would be the best way to add combat capability in flight.
There's been a lot of development since this video was made and they've been looking at how to use it not just for military purposes but all sorts of stuff - a lot of people shouted it down at first but there was a time in the history of every invention when they were clunky and we didn't know how to use them from the car to the computer to the phone; now look at them. As for flying cars they're a thing, you just can't afford them, the airspace is limited and you need a license: there's probably going to be a time when none of those things are true, but it isn't going to be long - 5-10 years give or take - when you can take one instead of an Uber and that might be good enough. By the way, Tom Scott did a video on learning to fly this (because of course he did).
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At least we saw two of them flying at the same time. Before that I wondered how many tries it took to make it look easy for one to fly, thinking of a boarding with fifty of them where twenty slams into the side of the ship or ends up in the water for other reasons. But it looks better than that. Not just one lucky take.
If they only could drop the whole thing in a couple of seconds after landing to engage an enemy, it would be very effective. It seems to be strapped to both arms and legs, but imagine all of them being able to just drop in fully equipped without most having to climb onboard after the first one. I imagine it isn't silent enough for this to be a safe covert boarding, without the ship's crew noticing anything.
It’s a gimmick ! In its current form it’s been touted to anyone daft enough to buy it
Maybe in the future when it can
A) easily removed
B) not as dangerous to the operator
C) carry a normal marine / soldier and just as importantly weapons radio
Then it maybe of some use
Many companies have tried out this concept for over 20 plus years - still not a viable option to take a fully equipped soldier into battle and back
It has been tried by many but the same with paramedics if you cannot carry emergency kit, plasma, defibrillator, oxygen, your just left with a paramedic with no kit
🤣just imaging me getting to work like this swerving all over the place 🤣🤣
I read somewhere that the military tech is 9 years ahead of civilian stuff, as an amateur I feel that suit would be great as a boarding bridgehead but there would need to be an ability to be able to fight immediately on touch down or lay down some sort of cover I.e. smoke or flash bangs if the opposition were close
The ship looks like one of our batch2 River class OPVs, which have extra provision to embark a military/marines detachment of up to 50, as well as having an oboard CMS oufit rounded off with a full military comms fit, GPS and WECDIS.
So what you're obviously speculating on, may not be too wide of the mark. In any case, several 3rd world areas still with pirate problems do lie within the ships designated patrol zones.
The first helicopter deployed in war was during World War 2 in 1944
The first helicopter was built by Denny's Shipyard, Dumbarton, Scotland, and flew befor WW1. Development was cancelled to concentrate on ships when WW1 broke out.
@@almac2598 absolutely correct 🙂
We have had this technology for a while and it's not limited to the forces, in the Lake district in England we have paramedics who can use the jetpacks to get up to injured hikers up on the fells much quicker than any other means, i think they can be with an injured person in 3 minutes.
Zapata Flyboard Air,search for that, and watch that guy go,much more impressive!!!!🎉
We had jet packs and hover boards back in the 50's and 60's lol.
Ultimately the concept is pretty simple, you could probably build your own with 4 RC jet turbines, a heat resistant suit (fire suit/boiler suit) and a backpack with a fuel tank, you could probably just use gyros/vr haptics and an arduino for stability/throttle.
Back to the future came out when I was a kid and the director did some children’s TV show interview and he said that the hover board did exist. (I don’t think he quite realise what he was saying with the stir he was going to cause ) So that was it. Every child wanted one and we all knew at least one kid who said he’d been on one.
Wait till a platoon is going in at wave height in 5 years. That should be fun.
It's just in trials at the mo.
I believe the competent demonstrator featured in this video is the guy who invented/developed this jet pack. You need to look at the Company’s many display videos on RUclips, just search for:
‘Gravity Industries’
It is awesome however its been pointed out elsewhere that this is a nifty idea but not practical. Yet. Because they need both hands to operate it, therefore cant use small arms fire, therefore a sitting duck if people on a boat spot them. Its a more useful application for mountain rescue right now. But its exciting where this tech will go in future.
Also think about the actual traffic system's you would have to create for flying cars, that's without all the things that could go wrong =death!
Have you seen the French version which is basically a hover board .....this is like a marvel film .....check it out ...even though this Is more useful.
The US developed the perfect motor for a jet pack in a program in the 80’s. The only thing was the jet motor was to good, the jet pack program was shut down and the jet motor, it was use to power tomahawk cruise missiles.
We did have auto giro's in WW2, they where used to spot incoming German aircraft as a backup to radar.
Ive seen this displayed in person at the Yeovilton Airshow during the mock assault finale they do 🙂
They were experimenting with rocket packs the first prototype that was used for military operations was experimented in Vietnam they started working on the project 3 Korea for jetpacks
Were being developed prior to Vietnam war but were dropped in favour of full development of the immortal "Huey" helicopter. Just advisin'!
The first true self-powered rotorcraft was an autogyro invented in 1923. Helicopters soon followed.
All the major participants in WW2 used helicopters, although the load-carrying capacity wasn't massive. The main roles were casualty evacuation, reconnaissance, insertion of troops, resupply of small units, sea patrol from ships etc.
Here's a link to lists of helicopters and autogyros used by the ww2 nations.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rotorcraft_used_in_World_War_II
Because of the noise, I would have thought this might be used less for combat and more for search and rescue or similar roles.
It already is being used for SAR in the UK Paramedic Rescue ruclips.net/video/gtvCnZqZnxc/видео.html
nope depends on many factors
These things will be great tools for boarding ships or roof tops quickly to catch pirates etc by surprise
Not really a top secret they are a private company and have been doing displays at big events
Sikorsky's R-4 only allied helicopter used in WWII mainly in search and rescue.
There were some helicopters developed at the tail end of ww2. Think it was the Germans. Helicopters came into their own as you suggested during the Korean war of the 50's
I believe the first operational use of helicopters was the US, who used them in the Pacific Theatre (I think) in 1943 or 44. The use was in a support role rather than combat, either medical or evac. That would be the Sikorsky R-4, but the Germans also had them, with Hanna Reitsch flying one inside a large exhibition hall before the war, possibly 1938. I am not sure if the Germans used helicopters operationally during the war though.
Yeah like The hoverboard
a pair of sholder mounted guns like in Predators film and a HUD helmet
That jetpack doesn't look like a prototype, it looks like a production model by the fit and finish.
Marines always get the cool toys.
These suits are also now being used in mountain rescue in Scotland.
talking about helicopters - im going to watch airwolf now
The other thing is, this is an exercise. How well are they going to work in a combat scenario where people are shooting at them. that jetpack guy looks unarmed.
Section 8, Platoon is about 32, company 120, battalion 800 + is my guess.
Daren’t scratch his arse though whilst in the air. Would end up with a face like a pizza up against the hull
like While-e-coyote!
Forgot to mention the transition time from flight to fight and cumbersome of the suit in that time
This thing is expensive but not nearly as much as you think. This was developed privately by a guy, former Royal Marine (I vaguely remember maybe with the help of a relative like maybe his father) and it's based on 5 micro jet turbines similar to those used in RC airplanes, they are fairly expensive being a few thousand $/£/€ for each engine(imagine something usually in the range of 2000-6000$/€ depending on the specs). but that's the main component of this thing, the rest is figuring out how to make them work with fuel, electronics, how to make the flight controllable and safe for the operator....Not saying it's a cheap gadget but it should be way less expensive than 1Milion$ by a large margin.
Lets take 5 engines, to be conservative let's say they cost 10'000$ each, we are at 50k$, these engines are most likely the overwelming majority of the final cost, but even if we double this we are at 100k$... it's still a price comparable with many general aviation airplanes or some expensive off-road vehicles(a basic HMMWV starts at about 70k$, reaching 160k-220k$ for up-armored ones), there are even some high performance Ultralight airplanes that cost about twice as much even on second-hand market (Blackshape Prime or Pelegrin Tarragon for example).
I'm no expert but even in this display I can spot at least a couple of big issues for a practical military use...
1) they are noisy and
2) the operator has both his hands busy while flying (and for some time after landing)
So the operator is very vulnerable during flight and for some time after being landed on the ship, and at the same time there is no way that he can board the ship stealthly without alerting everyone onboard producing all that noise.
Best marines in the world the best armed forces in the world I'm ex British army army no other country compares to us hence why we train everyone up
army army? up your sleevy sleevy?!
@@221b-Maker-Street - Where's the Andes? On the end of your Armies... Tarahhhh boom boom!
The French have some kind of flying personnel carrier but they stand on it allowing them to carry arms. Seem to remember that a guy tried to cross the English Channel on one. 2019 if my memory serves me well.
That was a delta wing strapped to the pilot's back. He could just have got the ferry like normal people.
@@RichWoods23 this was different he did a display bastille day a few years ago holding an assault rifle.
Type french flying soldier into search
These jet packs are also used by a couple of mountain search and rescue organisations in Britain . Much easier to get first aid to an injured climber in an hour or two this way than maybe 8 hours of walking - especially if there is no way for helicopter or ambulance access.
As for their development - i would say from the early to mid 60s. James Bond 007 used one with Sean Connery and in the early 90s Michael Jackson used to end each show during his Dangerous world tour by appearing to fly off stage in a jet pack (most likely a stunt double though).
Is that how he ended up with a melted face?
@@RichWoods23 I think that you are more likely referring to the Pepsi commercial in the 80s when his hair was set on fire.
I mean when it comes to over-estimating the future; you have to remember more time has passed between now and Apollo 11 landing on the Moon, than passed between the Wright brothers' first powered flight and the Moon landings. If you told anyone in the 1973 noone would return for over 50 years they'd have thought you were crazy.
I think the military has known about this since James Bond.
Yes there were helicopters in world war 2, also the only representation I've seen in a war film is "where eagles dare".
That was an American Bell 47 helicopter from the 1950s, the Germans had Flettner Fl 282 helicopters but didn't use them much.
So they have had actual jet packs since the 50's but it's never had a flight time longer then 5- 10 mins becuase of the size of the tank .... And these perticular ones with the jets on the arms rather than the back are anew design made in the UK and have a longer flight time of around 15-20 mins and are actually being trained for by the mountain rescue paramedics so that they can get to the patient quicker and get the patient ready for moving
No bryan .... those were rocket packs as displayed in James Bond (Thunderball?) and had a flight time of 15-20 SECONDS, so never viable! Jets are recent development and much more fuel efficient.
There is a video where they come alongside a cruise ship which is so cool.
Yet again a fine British invention, Saying that the yanks military have drones the size of locus which is quite something .
Medics use these in the Welsh hills and mountains and the Scottish highlands to get to injured walkers faster.
No Mountain rescue team in UK is using these
@@richardwest6358 I watched it in a news story on tv, unless you think the media is lying to me? Hmmmmmm.
@@mikemikemick there is a big difference between a sales oriented demonstration and "use" by a MR team. Even the ambulance service could never afford the equipment or training. The demonstration in the Lake district actually proved its problems. The area is over 2,000 Square kilometers and is covered by TWELVE Mountain Rescue teams. So where will the equipment be kept - how many trained pilots - travel time to launch point - etc etc. Jolly good fantasy film for people who know nothing about Search & Rescue in the UK
The operator would be terribly vulnerable during the approach and, since he uses both hands to control his flight he can't even use a weapon while airborne. Still an impressive demonstration though!
Yes the Royal Marines can fly with the aid of the Jet Suits, BUT think how open they are to attack by small arms fire or machine gun fire.