Traveling is defined legally by walking from place to place without having to stop and show ID. It has nothing to do with motor vehicles which are supposed to be a privilege for non miscreants.
They won't they'll fear monger this until it happens. Truth be told and you can watch Zero Enigma's video to confirm this, when you ride in China Town nobody looks both ways before they cross. That is a fact, it's even more strange because it's all over the City. AIRPODS, Headphones....these are the causes and everyone else will pay the price.
Ah yes NYC, "Let's let all the hard criminals get away with whatever they want, but let's make everyday people's lives miserable. instead of dealing with real crime."
You hit it right on the head since it's real easy to steal from the Public with Draconian Laws instead of arresting criminals committing felonies and besides that it's safer for law enforcement.
Yea the fact that this is getting the its getting is absurd when you have groups of people walking in and looting hundreds of stores in borad daylight and if you theyre "non violent" they're innocent as if burglary and theft was constitutionally protected
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
Probably brought on by kids riding heavy e-bikes down crowded sidewalks at 30 mph, like they do in San Francisco. They go even faster in the bike lanes.
upgraded from a standard bell on my pushbike to a loud electric buzzer because people ignored the bell. now i have a bell, electric buzzer AND an air horn because people with over-ear headphones cant hear my electric buzzer or assume its part of the song they're listening to
47 in 5 years? this is such a rare thing, and the law doesn't make any sense. now if this was an occurring thing and it was happening everyday than it would make sense. cars are way more dangerous than someone riding a e bike. people also need to walk with caution.
FOLLOW THE MONEY! This has nothing to do with Deaths or the Law. As e-Bikes get more advanced and costs of a car or motorbike rise more people will start using E-bikes. More people using E-Bikes = Le$$ people paying regi$tration, Fuel Tax, E-Tolls, etc, More E Bikes = Less MONEY for Government and Corporations.
As an E-Scooter rider, I feel like we get away with so much of what the E-Bike community is being blamed for. These regulations always seem to exclusively target E-Bikers.
Bro, i feel you. In Singapore, ebikes riders are all targeted by pedestrians,drivers and law enforces. We even have pedestrians(whole families with toddlers and babies) walking along bike lanes and they will blame you for hitting on them when they are walking along bike lanes. Your whole family will blame you for buying an ebike even after explaining to them that yours is different and is heavily regulated and everyday they continue to show you news of battery fires. Nobody around you is going to be marvelled that you bought such a brilliant vehicle. It's like they also forgot that electric cars do catch fires too.
@@quacker998 That is not what the proponent said... They were very clear, it is about safety... Since Cars and Motorcycle has license plate, where is the proof it made us safe ?
Someone who visited NYC and rode the rental Citi-bikes. Bike lanes are often blocked, impeded by cars, blocked by delivery trucks, construction suddenly closes bike lanes, bike lanes suddenly end, and pedestrians walk down the bike lanes and block the bike lanes. All that to say I also saw countless riders going to the wrong way, on sidewalks, splitting car lanes all when there is safe bike lanes. Both sides are at fault.
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
half the NYPD is deployed to the subway watching for toll hoppers, and a woman was just burned to death under their watch... they're going to stop me on my bike how exactly?
I knew this would happen eventually. I remember back in the '70s when this happened with gas powered mopeds. I remember the first mopeds, no license plate, no insurance, no registration and no helmet needed. That quickly changed. Due to the same reasons I believe that they're doing this with the electric bicycles. As I said earlier, I had a feeling and I knew that this would happen.
Id say if we get laws that require license plates for ebikes, we all ignore it. They can't inforce a law if absolutely no one follows it. I understand some laws are meant to protect us, but adding license plates to an ebike will solve nothing. It's just gonna create more problems. Ebikes are not legally aloud on most roads in my area, but i still use mine almost every day, and i ride past police all the time. They just ignore me because they know its useless to bother.
No1 is gonna listen. Legally nomatter what state you live in if a ebike is classified as a bicycle and also dosnt need a license to operate then a plate aka license plate cant be enforced. Plus lets be real a plate is not making any1 or any ebike safer
It’s an absolute shame. The cost to enforce a program like this is prohibitive. What New York City needs to do is enforced the laws that are already on the books which this jackass of a district attorney won’t do anyway. Find the people that park their cars and trucks and taxis in the bike lanes. There’s no respect at all. And like you said, can’t believe how many people got their face down on their cell phones texting watching videos while they’re walking and not paying attention. It’s all over the country.
I can’t even ride my bike cause I’m scared of getting a ticket🤢. this country has no fun anymore🙄 all they want you to do is work your ass off and be miserable. 💩
You’re absolutely right…they do not ticket people in the bike lane. It’s so bad on some avenues I don’t even bother using bike lanes I stay in the street. I would support this bill only if this means if your bike/scooter get stolen it’s easier to recover
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
In NYC the bi-directional bike lanes that are against the curb are unsafe, police and other drivers treat them as parking spots while pedestrians treat them as an extension of the sidewalk. NYC DOT bicycle rules allow cyclists to use the road or sidewalks when there’s a hazard in the bike lane, however I’d advise using caution since many police don’t know this.
New York is allergic to let people have fun and let people get around but with this thing in New York, you could legally have a a bike that could go up to 200 so this is a double edge short for them 😂😂😂😂 this opens the door for a lot of stuff for New e-bikes in the future
Love the vid and I’m a strong ebike rights guy. But I think when these things get into courtrooms and council rooms, the discussion will be e-bikes vs regular bikes. Not e-bikes vs cars.
New York tried licensing bicycles in the 1960s. Wasn't maintainable and it cost too much for little or no return. It isn't like we go out of our way to make folks miserable. Drivers want to exercise their 'right' to go as fast as possible with little or no interference. They don't like crosswalks at intersections, let alone HAWK crossings in the middle of the block.
I agree. They want to squeeze every dollar out of you. If it takes a death or a invalid excuse. This has nothing to do with safety. I agree, They need to do a massive reconstruction on all of the roads in 50 states. They have roads that can't fit two cars or Suv's on it.
Thank you for the information and I agree with u in many ways and you make alot of points. People need to realize the real threat is the people who drive also parking on ebike path and the pedestrians who don't pay attention. It sucks that these people are blaming us ebike for everything when we haven't done much damage.
One major bike incident every 39 days. How many major vehicle incidents everyday? Rayvolt have had programmable ebike outputs for at least 7 years. One quick touch in the app and you go from out of spec to legal all day long.
If the people will follow how to write these bikes they won't be nobody getting killed or nobody getting hit by e-bikes you got these younger kids to ride around with no helmets doing Reckless stuff that's what happens that's the ones they should be going after not the people who are following the law and the rules and regulations with these electric e-bikes cuz I got one I never got pulled over I never have no tickets I have a whole bunch of lights on my bike and wear a helmet even though I'm 45 years old and wear a yellow vest everything is all lined up on my bike so people can see me
13:30 Using dynos to filter out legal from "illegal" ebikes won't work, dynos measure peak wattage, even a 350 watt rated continuous hub motor peaks at over 750 watts when accellerating, that's why the federal regulation is 750 watts to maintain either 20 mph, if class 2, or 28 mph if class 3 on a flat level surface. peak output isn't even mentioned. it's continuous output.
They’re doing this why there’s people doing home invasions and a lot of crazy things and they’re worried about this is just got to be the most sickliest scariest thing that I have ever seen
Okay, I ride a Class two Ebike. This means I have Pedal Assist, and a Throttle. But, with the throttle only, I can only get up to about 19mph, on a flat road. 20mph is the cut off for how fast the Throttle only can get your bike going. And I use a 500w Direct Drive hub motor.
Ok I have a senerio to go through. Ok so if cars from a different state goes into another state they are not to abide by the said states laws as in for an example like modded exhaust or tint. Now what if I visited New York City and I'm from Colorado that means my ebike doesn't have to abide by this correct?
We are already having ebikes license plates in singapore. Not only that, we have speed limit and weight limit for ebikes. At least you guys in the US still get to enjoy those cool surrons for the past 5 odd years
I live near a high school and a couple different college campuses, people get smashed by e-bikes ALL the time. Like many other fun things, a few bad apples are going to ruin it for everyone.
TBH, I went from a 20 mph ebike to a 22 mph scooter to a 50 mph e-moto with a plate because I wanted to get to work faster, is all. I think if they really need to from a safety aspect, just get any vehicle going over 25 plates like any Mopad. Very simple!
Here in LA they are quite obviously being ridden too fast by people who have DUIs and turn to these unregulated vehicles. If the manufacturers limited the speed to 15 or 20 mph you wouldn’t see politicians getting involved.
Support 100% No license plate but strongly support that the police must issue serious fine ( $100 fine, for example ) to those who violate the road law, ie go opposite the road flow, ………etc
In the Netherlands they have many bike only lanes that are separate from cars and pedestrians. As a result, they have far fewer accidents. If you genuinely want to encourage bike and ebike transit, you have to make in safe and efficient. Tale a look at a video of bike riders in Amsterdam, its a dream; wide dedicated bike lanes.
Someone will sue the city for relevancy of using a dyno because it’s not consistent with cars. Cars have the ability to go way above the speed limit but it’s only when they do that speeding is actually enforced. The issue and reason for all this is because e-bikes have gotten to be too cheap. Barrier for entry is too low making people who aren’t committed to just buy one and start riding.
In Singapore, ebikes speed are kept at 25km/h. So most ebikes motor rating are at 250watts. Another way they could actually improve is by age limit. Ebikes with throttles, rider must be 21 years old and above.
Before they license ebikes because of deaths that involve ebikes, there should be a study done to see what conditions and actions led up to those accidents, in order to determine if licensing ebikes would solve the problem.
In the case in florida it was the woman that hit the child, she crossed the center line and crashed into the child, she died because she wasn't wearing a helmet the child was in NO WAY at fault
And these newspapers like they're freaking turn around and do the flippy floppy stuff on people and saying these bikes are really dangerous they're not dangerous it's the operators who are operating the bikes are doing careless things
NYC is dystopian and won't take any accountability. I used to live there, and I commuted via ebike. The biggest issue with nyc is the cars, mopeds, and pedestrians. The bike lanes aren't protected at all and most times our vision is blocked by double-parked cars, or we need to move into on coming traffic because the bike lane is blocked. On the bridges, the mopeds go super fast and always go the wrong way. Also pedestrians just don't pay attention and always j-walk then get mad when you tell them something. While I loved the ability to commute by bike it certainly wasn't the safest and in many times inconvenient. Now even with pedal assist 1 ebikes a lot of parks do not allow you to ride your bikes which is absurd. I unfortunately have a knee issue and cannot pedal for long periods of time, nor do I have the stamina to pedal a manual bike. Ebikes have helped me to discover new places and enjoy the outdoors from time to time, but it's disgusting that a city that taxes it's residence so much cannot invest in better infrastructure. Why is it okay for people to operate Fixie bikes? Or for professional athletic bikers to go beyond speed limits? There is a double standard here when it comes to safety.
Before I begin I’m in California, which just passed a new bike classification law. Are the old models basically a Moped now, that require an M2 license? Since they don’t have a VIN how does a person register all their reclassifed class-3 bikes made prior to 2025 and then get insurance for each? Also, why can’t a company make a “legalese bike” that has a physical dip switch to go between class-1, 2 and 3, and physical pedaling determine the speed in MPH, even if it’s essentially a “fly by wire” system where it’s not actual pedal assist but rather “pedal to speed command” all using analog speed gages, without any LCDs nor a digital throttle in sight?
Thanks 🙏 for your awareness I’m in New York and love my ebike and bike lanes always trucks and cars all the time plus I’m risking my life to be forced into the car 🚙 traffic so it’s not a good idea for registration and licensing and yes I got the 190$ they need to widen the lane 🚲
I hope they back off but it’s not likely. There’s a thing here in CA called the Electrician Certification Program. Can not work as an electrician without being certified. However, no money to enforce it . I have never heard of anyone being fined . Employers do require it except for , get this, the State of California. If you do electrical work in a school, hospital or traffic signals you do t have to be certified. A true case of good for the thee , not for me. Bikes will likely follow suit. Can you imagine being stopped on a Saturday morning bike ride to be forced into having your bike measured by a dynamometer? What if we refuse ? What if a ten speed acoustic bike rides by going 30 mph ? I have questions.
I have an 8 year old flying around my neighborhood in the streets on his scooter at 30 mph….. something has to happen because these are motorized vehicles and they are not following traffic laws.
Listen up New York. If you guys are sick of being tormented by regulations, move on down here to the great state of Mississippi. Yes, that Mississippi. I live in a small town and the police here don't care what you drive as long as your courteous and sober. Don't believe all these stories about the south. The town I live in is about 60% black people and I'm the only white guy on my street and guess what? Me and my neighbors all get along just fine. We help each other out and look out for each other. Life in the south is laid back. We don't get in a hurry about much and the cops don't care what you do as long as your not bothering anyone else. You can ride your ebike without a helmet if you want to. You can peddle it or throttle it, nobody cares. I see people riding 4 wheelers to work for God's sake. C'mon down and relax man. We have a nightclub owned by Morgan Freeman and it's a really cool place to unwind. Forget New York.
Most low power pedal assist bikes dont need this but these ebikes are basically as capable as vintage motorcycles. Some motorcycles do have pedals as well If your ebike is trying to be a motorcycle, its probably a motorcycle.
Cell Phone Zombies are the worst, and very dangerous. When I come up on one, I always holler. Yes, sidewalks are for walking people, not bikes of any kind. Yes, people parking in bike lanes should be ticketed. My friend who drives an electric car, pays a tax on her license plates, since she does not pay a gas tax. As long as it isn't too much of a cost, I'd pay for a license plate.
Play on the heartstrings is what the news does best. That woman stopped like a deer in the headlights and then was struck. You know how you're driving down the road in your car and the deer stops in the middle of the road all going a certain mile per hour and you're like move that's exactly what this situation is... Lady, why did you stop for chaos?
I’ve been saying they was going to try this since the day I read the specs for the dultron e-scooter years ago. 45mph stand up scooter.SMH thinking I love that this thing exists but how long before the government decides to regulate. I drive for a living and ride motorcycles when I’m not driving and I agree that pedestrians don’t pay attention as well as most car drivers. I would bet my life that in most if not all traffic accidents pedestrian or other wise was cause by cell phone use . Cell phones that’s the real killer on the roads
Nyc sees a way to make money they're losing they don't care about people dying😂😂meanwhile thousands of new Yorkers are just walking on the bus without paying and hopping the train turnstiles and they're worried about ebikes😂😂😂
Ebikes should require training with a test (like motorcycles) and a license. Ebikes also need to be required to have insurance and license plate. Any moving violations need to go on their driving record.
I'd like to see it happen. I've had enough of them violating the rules. I see them all the time, but I shouldn't, because they are illegal on almost all of out singletrack. They can do whatever they want on the road, but stay the hell off of the trails that you're not supposed to be on. I rarely ride on the street, but when I do, I see similar things here in Colorado, like cars parked in the bike lane, or on the sidewalk. That stuff bugs me too.
Have an App for E-Bike use. You can not use an E-bike without the app. Your E-bike app info goes into a computer monitoring system and stores all speed with location.. hills and speed downhill can be recorded, so anything over speed will be forgiven. Speeds over limits will give warning and eventually shut down the bike.. Resume ride after a 5 minute period. Bike keeps shutting down over lawful speeds. Police can use Bluetooth device to see speed info for current and previous date. Where there is no signal for your app, the bike goes to limp mode or safe 20mph mode automatically.
Easy pass a law with some teeth that - Classifies ebikes using class1-3 anything over 750w or 1 hp becomes a motorbike and needs to be registered and insured whether it has pedals or not.
The right to travel on public roads is guaranteed under the Constitution. This is only a tax and control grab.
Toll roads meet your definition and I approve. No more tolls.
Traveling is defined legally by walking from place to place without having to stop and show ID. It has nothing to do with motor vehicles which are supposed to be a privilege for non miscreants.
God bless you for saying the truth.
People who drive cars need to take their entitlement down a notch...
Yup, walking,,running skating is your right to travel. Motorized travel is regulated. Pretty simple really.
Not when you never obey traffic laws
Walking license plates will be tested in 2029
I'm at an age where I, thankfully, will not be around long enough to see what other BS the brain trusts in Washington have up their sleeves.
Only if you plan on walking with headphones and during rush hour!
Walking helmets.
Only in NYC
@@bigphones666 every pair de shoes would wil be requested have plate, 💵💵💵😂😂😂😂
Hold individuals accountable, not all of us.
They won't they'll fear monger this until it happens. Truth be told and you can watch Zero Enigma's video to confirm this, when you ride in China Town nobody looks both ways before they cross. That is a fact, it's even more strange because it's all over the City. AIRPODS, Headphones....these are the causes and everyone else will pay the price.
It's not about safety it's the insurance company that wants money.
Nobody cares
Ah yes NYC, "Let's let all the hard criminals get away with whatever they want, but let's make everyday people's lives miserable. instead of dealing with real crime."
You hit it right on the head since it's real easy to steal from the Public with Draconian Laws instead of arresting criminals committing felonies and besides that
it's safer for law enforcement.
Why else hire and promoted women cops?
Yea the fact that this is getting the its getting is absurd when you have groups of people walking in and looting hundreds of stores in borad daylight and if you theyre "non violent" they're innocent as if burglary and theft was constitutionally protected
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
This sounds like the most expensive most annoying and useless law ever.
Probably brought on by kids riding heavy e-bikes down crowded sidewalks at 30 mph, like they do in San Francisco. They go even faster in the bike lanes.
They ride e-bikes on sidewalks in So Cal as well like mopeds. Ride real bikes or don't ride at all.
is the same in Chicago at least 30mph on sidewalks on scooter
@@IowaNinersFanyup 8 love it here in SD619...ride 45 mph on the sidewalks down here in North Park
This isn't about congestion, efficiency, or even public safety. This is about nothing more than money.
Can't have people travel for free no more. There's too much money to be made obviously.
Talk about Totalitarian. The greed has no limits.
This is America. Money is the God of America. Greed is the religion.
@@martinschwartz7342 You can say that again.
Ain’t no way Uncle Sam gonna let a few shekels slip thru his fingers.
Ride a bike
upgraded from a standard bell on my pushbike to a loud electric buzzer because people ignored the bell.
now i have a bell, electric buzzer AND an air horn because people with over-ear headphones cant hear my electric buzzer or assume its part of the song they're listening to
47 in 5 years? this is such a rare thing, and the law doesn't make any sense. now if this was an occurring thing and it was happening everyday than it would make sense. cars are way more dangerous than someone riding a e bike. people also need to walk with caution.
47 in 5 years? This is not relevant to the number of accidents. It must be based on statistical calculations to make sense 🚲🚲🚲🛴🛴🛴
@@Boediprasetya you will hear way more car accidents daily than someone riding a e bike.
FOLLOW THE MONEY!
This has nothing to do with Deaths or the Law.
As e-Bikes get more advanced and costs of a car or motorbike rise more people will start using E-bikes.
More people using E-Bikes = Le$$ people paying regi$tration, Fuel Tax, E-Tolls, etc,
More E Bikes = Less MONEY for Government and Corporations.
As an E-Scooter rider, I feel like we get away with so much of what the E-Bike community is being blamed for. These regulations always seem to exclusively target E-Bikers.
Yep I was looking into getting one then started realizing how much regulation and bs there is and figured I would just save my money and stay home.
Bro, i feel you. In Singapore, ebikes riders are all targeted by pedestrians,drivers and law enforces. We even have pedestrians(whole families with toddlers and babies) walking along bike lanes and they will blame you for hitting on them when they are walking along bike lanes. Your whole family will blame you for buying an ebike even after explaining to them that yours is different and is heavily regulated and everyday they continue to show you news of battery fires. Nobody around you is going to be marvelled that you bought such a brilliant vehicle. It's like they also forgot that electric cars do catch fires too.
@@Ght-ye6ls I got an electric skateboard instead
How has license plates made cars and motorcycles safer again ?
Responsibility can be proscribed to an individual
@@quacker998 That is not what the proponent said... They were very clear, it is about safety...
Since Cars and Motorcycle has license plate, where is the proof it made us safe ?
Someone who visited NYC and rode the rental Citi-bikes. Bike lanes are often blocked, impeded by cars, blocked by delivery trucks, construction suddenly closes bike lanes, bike lanes suddenly end, and pedestrians walk down the bike lanes and block the bike lanes. All that to say I also saw countless riders going to the wrong way, on sidewalks, splitting car lanes all when there is safe bike lanes. Both sides are at fault.
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
half the NYPD is deployed to the subway watching for toll hoppers, and a woman was just burned to death under their watch... they're going to stop me on my bike how exactly?
We all need to go vote and tell them no we don't WANT IT
This is one of those laws to show you who's boss.
They should all have yearly bicycle license fees to protect and identify local municipalities and help support added new updated bike lanes
WE WILL NOT COMPLY
I knew this would happen eventually. I remember back in the '70s when this happened with gas powered mopeds. I remember the first mopeds, no license plate, no insurance, no registration and no helmet needed. That quickly changed. Due to the same reasons I believe that they're doing this with the electric bicycles. As I said earlier, I had a feeling and I knew that this would happen.
Id say if we get laws that require license plates for ebikes, we all ignore it. They can't inforce a law if absolutely no one follows it. I understand some laws are meant to protect us, but adding license plates to an ebike will solve nothing. It's just gonna create more problems. Ebikes are not legally aloud on most roads in my area, but i still use mine almost every day, and i ride past police all the time. They just ignore me because they know its useless to bother.
🗣️LEAVE US THE HECK ALONE!!!!! It’s the people in CARS that are the PROBLEM!!! They kill us on bikes > 2 feet & 4 wheels!
No1 is gonna listen. Legally nomatter what state you live in if a ebike is classified as a bicycle and also dosnt need a license to operate then a plate aka license plate cant be enforced. Plus lets be real a plate is not making any1 or any ebike safer
It’s an absolute shame. The cost to enforce a program like this is prohibitive. What New York City needs to do is enforced the laws that are already on the books which this jackass of a district attorney won’t do anyway. Find the people that park their cars and trucks and taxis in the bike lanes. There’s no respect at all. And like you said, can’t believe how many people got their face down on their cell phones texting watching videos while they’re walking and not paying attention. It’s all over the country.
I can’t even ride my bike cause I’m scared of getting a ticket🤢. this country has no fun anymore🙄 all they want you to do is work your ass off and be miserable. 💩
How does a plate make it safer again ? This is just money grab
people should protest this
You’re absolutely right…they do not ticket people in the bike lane. It’s so bad on some avenues I don’t even bother using bike lanes I stay in the street. I would support this bill only if this means if your bike/scooter get stolen it’s easier to recover
FUTURE LAWS WILL BE : permit needed when crossing every intersections, walking and making steps each day need some permit, breathing quality air must be certified, walking with stroller need to be license and registered, pushing a shopping kart need to be licensed and registered, everything that has wheels and can damage/hurt/bruise/cut a person will be registered/licensed and insured. COPY AND SHARE PLEASE
Won't comply to criminals ever. You don't need permission to travel. Car or bicycle.
In NYC the bi-directional bike lanes that are against the curb are unsafe, police and other drivers treat them as parking spots while pedestrians treat them as an extension of the sidewalk. NYC DOT bicycle rules allow cyclists to use the road or sidewalks when there’s a hazard in the bike lane, however I’d advise using caution since many police don’t know this.
New York is allergic to let people have fun and let people get around but with this thing in New York, you could legally have a a bike that could go up to 200 so this is a double edge short for them 😂😂😂😂 this opens the door for a lot of stuff for New e-bikes in the future
Love the vid and I’m a strong ebike rights guy. But I think when these things get into courtrooms and council rooms, the discussion will be e-bikes vs regular bikes. Not e-bikes vs cars.
New York tried licensing bicycles in the 1960s. Wasn't maintainable and it cost too much for little or no return. It isn't like we go out of our way to make folks miserable. Drivers want to exercise their 'right' to go as fast as possible with little or no interference. They don't like crosswalks at intersections, let alone HAWK crossings in the middle of the block.
I agree. They want to squeeze every dollar out of you. If it takes a death or a invalid excuse. This has nothing to do with safety. I agree, They need to do a massive reconstruction on all of the roads in 50 states. They have roads that can't fit two cars or Suv's on it.
Big accident? Like burning humans on subways?
It's against the law for any officer to to ride or drive anyone's OPD-MD without a court order.. period..😮😮😮😮😮
What is an OPD-MD?
Shit bro I don’t even have brakes 😂 I’m gone bro 💀
And no one being held accountable.
Thank you for the information and I agree with u in many ways and you make alot of points. People need to realize the real threat is the people who drive also parking on ebike path and the pedestrians who don't pay attention. It sucks that these people are blaming us ebike for everything when we haven't done much damage.
One major bike incident every 39 days. How many major vehicle incidents everyday?
Rayvolt have had programmable ebike outputs for at least 7 years. One quick touch in the app and you go from out of spec to legal all day long.
If the people will follow how to write these bikes they won't be nobody getting killed or nobody getting hit by e-bikes you got these younger kids to ride around with no helmets doing Reckless stuff that's what happens that's the ones they should be going after not the people who are following the law and the rules and regulations with these electric e-bikes cuz I got one I never got pulled over I never have no tickets I have a whole bunch of lights on my bike and wear a helmet even though I'm 45 years old and wear a yellow vest everything is all lined up on my bike so people can see me
13:30 Using dynos to filter out legal from "illegal" ebikes won't work, dynos measure peak wattage, even a 350 watt rated continuous hub motor peaks at over 750 watts when accellerating, that's why the federal regulation is 750 watts to maintain either 20 mph, if class 2, or 28 mph if class 3 on a flat level surface. peak output isn't even mentioned. it's continuous output.
I’m sick of living here in NYC
They’re doing this why there’s people doing home invasions and a lot of crazy things and they’re worried about this is just got to be the most sickliest scariest thing that I have ever seen
With this NYC will suffer even more traffic congestion. They brought it on themselves.
Okay, I ride a Class two Ebike. This means I have Pedal Assist, and a Throttle. But, with the throttle only, I can only get up to about 19mph, on a flat road. 20mph is the cut off for how fast the Throttle only can get your bike going. And I use a 500w Direct Drive hub motor.
Ok I have a senerio to go through. Ok so if cars from a different state goes into another state they are not to abide by the said states laws as in for an example like modded exhaust or tint. Now what if I visited New York City and I'm from Colorado that means my ebike doesn't have to abide by this correct?
Great video
Let's create a solution for a problem that's incredibly minor against the grand scheme of everything else going on.
Many roads are also in terrible condition, pot holes, extreme lumps, etc. And they also need to enforce the texting and driving law.
These law makers won't stop until they've drained every last drop of money from its citizens..
We are already having ebikes license plates in singapore. Not only that, we have speed limit and weight limit for ebikes. At least you guys in the US still get to enjoy those cool surrons for the past 5 odd years
I live near a high school and a couple different college campuses, people get smashed by e-bikes ALL the time. Like many other fun things, a few bad apples are going to ruin it for everyone.
That happens on normal bikes too.
That happens on foot also.
Ban movement now!!!
I don’t know, I’m scared of getting my bike impounded. This would make it so I can just ride my bike stress free.
People in Iran are saying “yeah that’s messed up”
TBH, I went from a 20 mph ebike to a 22 mph scooter to a 50 mph e-moto with a plate because I wanted to get to work faster, is all. I think if they really need to from a safety aspect, just get any vehicle going over 25 plates like any Mopad. Very simple!
Here in LA they are quite obviously being ridden too fast by people who have DUIs and turn to these unregulated vehicles. If the manufacturers limited the speed to 15 or 20 mph you wouldn’t see politicians getting involved.
Support 100% No license plate but strongly support that the police must issue serious fine ( $100 fine, for example ) to those who violate the road law, ie go opposite the road flow, ………etc
In the Netherlands they have many bike only lanes that are separate from cars and pedestrians. As a result, they have far fewer accidents. If you genuinely want to encourage bike and ebike transit, you have to make in safe and efficient. Tale a look at a video of bike riders in Amsterdam, its a dream; wide dedicated bike lanes.
Someone will sue the city for relevancy of using a dyno because it’s not consistent with cars. Cars have the ability to go way above the speed limit but it’s only when they do that speeding is actually enforced.
The issue and reason for all this is because e-bikes have gotten to be too cheap. Barrier for entry is too low making people who aren’t committed to just buy one and start riding.
In Singapore, ebikes speed are kept at 25km/h. So most ebikes motor rating are at 250watts. Another way they could actually improve is by age limit. Ebikes with throttles, rider must be 21 years old and above.
Before they license ebikes because of deaths that involve ebikes, there should be a study done to see what conditions and actions led up to those accidents, in order to determine if licensing ebikes would solve the problem.
In the case in florida it was the woman that hit the child, she crossed the center line and crashed into the child, she died because she wasn't wearing a helmet the child was in NO WAY at fault
I would love to take on these cities for a big payday for me being disabled and my OPD-MD is my only means of mobility.. bring it on HATERS..😮😮😮😮😮
There's three vehicles for every four people in the USA!!!
Over the period 2018 to 2022, 1 ebike for every 25 people was sold in the USA.
Okay, Wheelchair motors have a top end at 250w.
That cop on that dyno is ghost peddling 100%
And these newspapers like they're freaking turn around and do the flippy floppy stuff on people and saying these bikes are really dangerous they're not dangerous it's the operators who are operating the bikes are doing careless things
NYC is dystopian and won't take any accountability. I used to live there, and I commuted via ebike. The biggest issue with nyc is the cars, mopeds, and pedestrians. The bike lanes aren't protected at all and most times our vision is blocked by double-parked cars, or we need to move into on coming traffic because the bike lane is blocked. On the bridges, the mopeds go super fast and always go the wrong way. Also pedestrians just don't pay attention and always j-walk then get mad when you tell them something.
While I loved the ability to commute by bike it certainly wasn't the safest and in many times inconvenient. Now even with pedal assist 1 ebikes a lot of parks do not allow you to ride your bikes which is absurd. I unfortunately have a knee issue and cannot pedal for long periods of time, nor do I have the stamina to pedal a manual bike. Ebikes have helped me to discover new places and enjoy the outdoors from time to time, but it's disgusting that a city that taxes it's residence so much cannot invest in better infrastructure.
Why is it okay for people to operate Fixie bikes? Or for professional athletic bikers to go beyond speed limits? There is a double standard here when it comes to safety.
Just like mopeds circa 1982🇺🇸
Before I begin I’m in California, which just passed a new bike classification law.
Are the old models basically a Moped now, that require an M2 license? Since they don’t have a VIN how does a person register all their reclassifed class-3 bikes made prior to 2025 and then get insurance for each?
Also, why can’t a company make a “legalese bike” that has a physical dip switch to go between class-1, 2 and 3, and physical pedaling determine the speed in MPH, even if it’s essentially a “fly by wire” system where it’s not actual pedal assist but rather “pedal to speed command” all using analog speed gages, without any LCDs nor a digital throttle in sight?
I just got mine a month ago. In Florida. So itll take awhile to get.that law down here at least a year. Hopefully it wont happen anywhere
In Florida too. Got mine 2 months ago. I believe it will get here quicker since our governor is great lol
That dyno in UK is set to see kph .. The bike never exceeded 25kph by the way. Like under 16 mph
You need registration and insurance to get tags on a vehicle . That e bike is going to cost like 50$ a month minimum.
Thanks 🙏 for your awareness I’m in New York and love my ebike and bike lanes always trucks and cars all the time plus I’m risking my life to be forced into the car 🚙 traffic so it’s not a good idea for registration and licensing and yes I got the 190$ they need to widen the lane 🚲
I hope they back off but it’s not likely. There’s a thing here in CA called the Electrician Certification Program. Can not work as an electrician without being certified. However, no money to enforce it . I have never heard of anyone being fined . Employers do require it except for , get this, the State of California. If you do electrical work in a school, hospital or traffic signals you do t have to be certified. A true case of good for the thee , not for me. Bikes will likely follow suit. Can you imagine being stopped on a Saturday morning bike ride to be forced into having your bike measured by a dynamometer? What if we refuse ? What if a ten speed acoustic bike rides by going 30 mph ? I have questions.
The big problem is making the electric bicycles too fast in cities. 45 to 50 mph is too fast riding in a city.
I have an 8 year old flying around my neighborhood in the streets on his scooter at 30 mph….. something has to happen because these are motorized vehicles and they are not following traffic laws.
Listen up New York. If you guys are sick of being tormented by regulations, move on down here to the great state of Mississippi. Yes, that Mississippi. I live in a small town and the police here don't care what you drive as long as your courteous and sober. Don't believe all these stories about the south. The town I live in is about 60% black people and I'm the only white guy on my street and guess what? Me and my neighbors all get along just fine. We help each other out and look out for each other. Life in the south is laid back. We don't get in a hurry about much and the cops don't care what you do as long as your not bothering anyone else. You can ride your ebike without a helmet if you want to. You can peddle it or throttle it, nobody cares. I see people riding 4 wheelers to work for God's sake. C'mon down and relax man. We have a nightclub owned by Morgan Freeman and it's a really cool place to unwind. Forget New York.
Art to be law every box truck should have 📷 camera's Really will Save Real life's
The ADA act would have a field day with the attempt to make motorized wheel chairs have license plates😆
Most low power pedal assist bikes dont need this but these ebikes are basically as capable as vintage motorcycles.
Some motorcycles do have pedals as well
If your ebike is trying to be a motorcycle, its probably a motorcycle.
good idea. it will encourage the evolution of cool, really stealthy illegal diy ones that look exactly like push bikes
I am against regulation on e-bikes.
It's all about money. And tracking ppl
Cell Phone Zombies are the worst, and very dangerous. When I come up on one, I always holler. Yes, sidewalks are for walking people, not bikes of any kind. Yes, people parking in bike lanes should be ticketed. My friend who drives an electric car, pays a tax on her license plates, since she does not pay a gas tax. As long as it isn't too much of a cost, I'd pay for a license plate.
And the entire market will colaps just like the scooter industry did in Italy when insurance went from 50€ a year to 700€ (last time I checked)
Play on the heartstrings is what the news does best. That woman stopped like a deer in the headlights and then was struck. You know how you're driving down the road in your car and the deer stops in the middle of the road all going a certain mile per hour and you're like move that's exactly what this situation is... Lady, why did you stop for chaos?
I'm already paying for a license plate registration for my car so i guess I'll just keep driving my car....
I’ve been saying they was going to try this since the day I read the specs for the dultron e-scooter years ago. 45mph stand up scooter.SMH thinking I love that this thing exists but how long before the government decides to regulate. I drive for a living and ride motorcycles when I’m not driving and I agree that pedestrians don’t pay attention as well as most car drivers. I would bet my life that in most if not all traffic accidents pedestrian or other wise was cause by cell phone use . Cell phones that’s the real killer on the roads
Nyc sees a way to make money they're losing they don't care about people dying😂😂meanwhile thousands of new Yorkers are just walking on the bus without paying and hopping the train turnstiles and they're worried about ebikes😂😂😂
Ebikes should require training with a test (like motorcycles) and a license.
Ebikes also need to be required to have insurance and license plate.
Any moving violations need to go on their driving record.
I'd like to see it happen. I've had enough of them violating the rules. I see them all the time, but I shouldn't, because they are illegal on almost all of out singletrack. They can do whatever they want on the road, but stay the hell off of the trails that you're not supposed to be on. I rarely ride on the street, but when I do, I see similar things here in Colorado, like cars parked in the bike lane, or on the sidewalk. That stuff bugs me too.
Licensing for electric wheel chairs is wild LOL
Big government cracking down on crime....🙄
I’m not paying this might make me more willing to run rather than to stop
47 in 5 years is a lot, that breaks down to almost 1 a month
Have an App for E-Bike use. You can not use an E-bike without the app. Your E-bike app info goes into a computer monitoring system and stores all speed with location.. hills and speed downhill can be recorded, so anything over speed will be forgiven. Speeds over limits will give warning and eventually shut down the bike.. Resume ride after a 5 minute period. Bike keeps shutting down over lawful speeds. Police can use Bluetooth device to see speed info for current and previous date. Where there is no signal for your app, the bike goes to limp mode or safe 20mph mode automatically.
Easy pass a law with some teeth that - Classifies ebikes using class1-3 anything over 750w or 1 hp becomes a motorbike and needs to be registered and insured whether it has pedals or not.
I'll be surprised if people still live in New York.
With all the taxes and tolls that they're starting to add.