@@indoviral6235 20 Watts is not much. I know in Europe and other areas globally there are places where electricity is incredibly expensive. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the US for electricity per killowatt. If I ran that Ryzen for 12 hours a day at 20 additional watts, that is only about $27 a year more, or $2.20 more a month. I would say if that much of a savings is a big deal, neither of these CPUs are for the person looking to purchase.
The only reason why the 7700X was worse in Cyberpunk was because the game itself handles Ryzen CPUs terribly. It's gotten to the point where people have modded the game to properly utilize the Ryzen CPUs. The Devs have acknowledged this issue and said that it will finally be solved in update 2.0 which will be released a few days later. So, except the Cyberpunk benchmark, everything here is on point.
It is true that in gaming the R7-7700x is better than the i5-13600k but in general the i5 is a much better processor than the R7 and in multitasking it beats it by a lot; Additionally, you have to take into account that the tests are done at 1080p and the tendency is to play at 2K and 4K; I can assure you that at 2K and 4K the performance is the same since it depends more on the graphics than the processor. For me the i5 is better value for money but it is my personal opinion, however both are excellent processors to be honest.
The only Problem was the SMT. The Game itself get with the 2.0 Update 16 core support and fix the smt problem for the 8 core cpus. It can improve the +4 e cores from intel too and the 16 core amd CPU will get the most Performance increase, but they said smt should be turned off, because they can't really fix that.
@@Mummra_zu It's only about 4000 points above the 7700x in cinebench multicore r23 plus it consumes about 50/60 watts more and warms up easily, the ryzen cpus with undervolt/overclock are truly efficient and might even get better results than stock
@@riccardotesta987 13600K undervolts like crazy I went from 96C after a pass in Cinebench R23 to 85C just from lowering the CPU Lite load setting in BIOS, Didn't lose any performance as well (same cinebench results). some people can make it down to mode 1 (lowest voltage) but it's luck of the draw, Mine has been rock stable at mode 3 for 6 months so far (default is mode 12).
For sure the Intel one. Yes, average fps are slightly lower in most games, but 1% lows and 0.1% lows are usually equal or better than the Ryzen's ones. It also got some nice iGPU which comes in handy if you wanna do something content related, but if you dont care I assume the 13600KF is better, cause cheaper and no iGPU.
@@ognaim It has a iGPU, but it's not really useful for anything besides just a display. The Intel CPUs are great for streaming and encoding due to Quicksync. Both CPUs are pretty equal though. Only downside is if you on a budget and want to use DDR4. You are forced to take DDR5 with that 7700X.
The most fascinating thing to me is that this shows thre 13600K consistently pulling 10+ watts *less* than the 7700x in the games. That runs counter to the narrative of 'power hungry Intel' when running full load tests luke Blender.
new intel cpus are actually efficient when its not on full load, example this one pulling abt 20w less than the 7700x while gaming. regardless of that tho you shouldnt be worried about heat or wattage if ur using ghe 13600k just undervolt and its gonna pull much less. same for 7700x use eco mode or just buy the 7700
Thanks for E-Core and Windows 11 optimization for new Intel CPUs, in Full Load i5-13600K consume same that Ryzen 9 7900X, but worth it because much cores for low price
nah, disabling ecores makes only sense with 12600k If you push ring +ram oc high. Others with 8 ecores benefit more with disabling ht this will allow to push p-cores +100-200 mhz at same voltage.
@@ezioauditore1588 True.... when Alder lake first came out it was better to disable the E-Cores... but now it's not. I saw a guy on a subreddit claiming to get the best gaming performance out of his 13900k by disabling Hyperthreading and turning off half of the E-Cores.
But it has two less cores for gaming. I had the 13600k and it sucked for mp online gaming. Took it all back and got 7700x and it is day night difference.
@JayzBeerz 6 cores and 12 threads are dedicated for gaming tho. 7700x is way better for online multi-player games due to 8 cores and 16 threads. 7700x is basically a 13900k for half the price if you're just gaming. 13700k and 13900k are fine because they have 8 cores and 16 threads dedicated for gaming, just like the 7700x.
Its only doing 5GHz, with a real overclock to say 5.8GHz all core it would put at least a 20% gap on this cpu and consume a whole lot more power. Intel is releasing this cpus pretty tamed
@@ezioauditore1588 Nope IF now have better latency than Intel, but this really import? Both are monsters CPU Intel better in workloads and more cheaper, AMD better in efficiency and gaming performance, I prefer low power consumption, but Intel is more cheaper and have better workloads performance, I will for Intel with sure
@@kevinyoliveira68 then explain why intel with 1500mhz imc (gear 2) ddr5 still have lower memory latency than ryzen with 3000 mhz imc (gear1) at same ram speed 😀
I was about to upgrade my r7 2700 workstation to a 7700, but I run into some benches putting the i5 13600k in the same level, looked to buy a used one and made a pretty good deal, bought an MSI pro x690 ddr4 motherboard + i5 13600k for 230 bucks, huge improvement and kept my 64GB ddr4 from previous setup, biggest improvement ever for little money. Only downside is how hot it runs, had to watter cool it to keep the same silence I had with AMD stock cooler at load wen rendering my 3D models.
Couple take aways: -This is at 1080p with a ****** RTX 4090 the average joe will be at 1440p with a ~RTX 3070 -AM5 has been unstable as hell with RAM issues, random crashes, and the fire hazard. -Intel 12,13th gen has been rock solid stability wise and the Microcenter combos are insanely cheap. As someone who tries to stay as neutral as possible I would go with Intel.
@@Coco_cocaine I totally agree. I'm about to get a PC but I've heard that Ryzen 7 7700X reaches even 90°C which is not so good in the long run that it is going to reduce the lifespan of the CPU and therefore , I started looking for a good Intel CPU within the same price range and then I came across 13600k which brought me to this video. Could anybody tell whether i5 13600k is good for RX 7800 XT? It will be a great help.
13600k has significantly higher oc headroom, you can oc p cores to 5.6-5.8ghz all core and then there is ram tuning which is another huge bonus for intel chip, well tuned 13600k will match 7800x3d and lazily tuned 13600k will easily outperform tuned 7700x. Without oc its a tough choice, 13600k still has more MT performance though and runs significantly cooler, i would still take 13600k over 7700x
True.... but maybe 1% to 5% of PC users actually overclock. There is also more performance that can be picked up out of the 7700x. You can pick up quite a bit more performance out of both platforms by overclocking the RAM and tweaking the timings + sub timings. Zen 3 and 4 are very responsive to high end RAM kits that have low timing along with a Voltage offset and good cooling. If the user can manage a 20% offset along with an overkill CPU cooler, run the RAM at 6400MT/s, 3200MHz fabric, push the timings and subtimings as low as possible
@@m8x425 Its a long running myth that ryzen has much higher ram overclocking gains than intel equivalent, the issue with am5 platform that it tops out at very low memory bandwidth, 6200mt/s and if you are lucky 6400mt/s. On am5 all you can do really is to reduce memory latency and even cpu's themselves do not have any oc headroom. So even if you dont oc you can gain with xmp ram much better results on intel just by getting higher rated ram out of the box.
@@AyazDaoud it might give a hundred mhz but i would not recommend if you use your cpu for general use, leave e cores on and if you cant get higher than 5.5 then leave it at that, try oc e cores as well
@@AyazDaoud leave ecores enabled and if you want you can disable ht becouse most games dont use and this will allow you to push 100-200 mhz more on p-cores at same voltage.
In my country AMD build is some like ~U$100 more expensive because DDR5, Intel have DDR4 option and only ~8% less performance compared with expensive DDR5
7700x destroys the 13600k in online multi-player games. Idk why these benchmarks that are meant for gpus are being used to tell what cpu is capable of. Want to test a cpu? Use real world scenarios like online gaming.
For me Intel do better more cores, cheaper build DDR4 option with slight worse gaming performance and more colder CPUs (except for shit i9), I like of AMD, but Intel is better deal
@@m8x425Yeah I’m not sure whether to upgrade now or wait until the next generation of CPU’s and GPU’s comes out I have a i7 9700K and a 2080 Super, of course all I really play is Skyrim xD
@@OneFreeMan17 Tbh you could wait like another year or do what my dad is doing and just get a $2500 pre built nzxt pc lol. 4070 ti and ryzen 7 7700x all white. But fr tho maybe best to wait but if anything upgrade your cpu and mobo first. (or get a ddr5 mobo instead of a ddr4 mobo for intel) if you think its worth it then go for it.
@@KrAk_D0g Well I already have a custom PC with a Corsair 7000D Airflow case xD It seems like the graphics card is what I need to upgrade since I’m using all 4K mods in Skyrim SE, but then I also need to change the mobo/cpu so it’s not bottlenecks by the current 9700K 🤷♂️
CSGO & Rainbow Six Siege are the most pointless games that I see being benchmarked. 600/700 + FPS? What's the point in measuring it? There are no monitors which can reproduce such high frames anyways.
@@xTurtleOW yes in old fashioned games where Mghz matters more but even there is close.15-25 wins are basically generation jump that is why 14900k will not be able to beat 7800x3d it is just rebranded 13900ks with maybe less power consumption.Maybe.
Because the 4090 is a lot of GPU for those resolutions, many game engines are not prepared to give infinite FPS, and they cannot take advantage of all the cores, in the case of Intel of those 14 cores, only the 6 pcores can be used in gamig
Хватает ли данных процессоров для раскрытия, всего потпнцеала производительности RTX 4090? Я вот видел серьёзный тест, где взрослый парень, очень сильно радовался тому, что его i5 13400F, способен задействовать RTX 4070Ti на 95-98%
@@auritro3903 idk man it is currently the best CPU on the market. and soon AMD will be releasing their ryzen 9000 X3D series tbh their standard CPU werent much of a difference from the current series. AMD is actually struggling to beat themselves
Intel is more power hungry, latency both are same and Ryzen 7 7700X perform better in gaming, but really i5 heat less and have more core and better for multi-tasking and both CPU cost same (at least in my country), but Intel Mobos DDR4 + Memos DDR4 cost like ~U$100 more cheaper and only ~8% less performance then Intel better option for me
@@kevinyoliveira68 13600K is drawing 10-20W less in this test for generally similar performance, so at mid or low end, Intel is more power efficient than Ryzen.
This amd cpu is already overclocked from the factory, but intel doesn't. If your motherboard has a good enough VRM, overclock the 13600k to 5.7 + performance will improve a lot, and you can take advantage of it. use ddr4 ram with intel thsy because ddr5 ram and main price is also cheaper than new AM5 main board if you even use main z 690 series it is much cheaper, while the difference in fps is not significant then for work 13600k completely destroys 7700X
@@chien.nguyen. 5.7GHz for more +100W and ~100ºC and only ~5% performance gains overclock is wast of time, energy and money (better cooler), I prefer UV and UC about OC
I haven't seen any other benchmark where the 13600k wins. it usually trails the others, including the 7600x. People have done videos trying to figure out why and most say its because of the smaller L3 cache size.
@@m8x425this is not true, I’m from Russia and I saw a bunch of reviews on Russian-language channels, we conducted a bunch of tests, where 13600 showed itself perfectly, you can type 7700vs 13600 into a search engine, I watched a lot of tests, 13600 always won
Intel is more power hungry that AMD while both are full load, but Intel is more colder and have more cores/threads, I prefer i5 and i7 about some R5 and R7, but I prefer R9 about i9 easily
i7 10700f, or i9 10900f will better than any new cpu bc lower price more power cores less tdp dont needed expansive motherbord and air cool. for games it will be best processor for many years, for work better ryzen with 16/32
@@kevinyoliveira68 better optimized for gaming at mid and lower end, 13900K generally draws over a 100W in gaming (although it can be fixed by undervolting)
@@kevinyoliveira68 see 7950X vs 13900K benchmarks, non UV 13900K generally performs slightly better than non UV 7950X, but also uses more than 20W on average. When its 13900K vs 7950X3D, the gap is even more, where 7950X3D wins in most benchmarks while consuming less power
i7 10700f, or i9 10900f will better than any new cpu in games bc lower price more power cores less tdp dont needed expansive motherbord and air cool. for games it will be best processor for many years, for work better ryzen with 16/32
Games :
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:20 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Hitman 3 - 1:19 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3
Forza Horizon 5 - 2:15 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
The Last of Us Part I - 3:32
Starfield - 4:34
CS GO - 5:33
Horizon Zero Dawn - 6:33 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:36 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 8:38 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
Remnant 2 - 9:32
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7700X - bit.ly/3rd8bfz
Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER - bit.ly/3BRDIIG
Core i5 13600K - bit.ly/3N4D7bR
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
Now that is funny as hell. Go for whatever is cheaper. In this case intel slaughters the old time cheaper brand as you can run b die DDR4 and mop up.
CS:GO 704 fps on Intel is just unplayable. Need to go with the Ryzens 781 fps.
HAHA, this really cracked me up, thank you. 😄
But intel win the power consumtion 20 watt lower than amd
@@indoviral6235 20 Watts is not much.
I know in Europe and other areas globally there are places where electricity is incredibly expensive. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the US for electricity per killowatt. If I ran that Ryzen for 12 hours a day at 20 additional watts, that is only about $27 a year more, or $2.20 more a month. I would say if that much of a savings is a big deal, neither of these CPUs are for the person looking to purchase.
Ok sure bro 💀
@@indoviral6235 nah you are insane if you dont know that ryzen gets only better if you undervolt it
This is proof that the CPU market is far better than the GPU market...
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this make no sense you comparing Apple to Orange
True, this is what happens when competition focuses on deliver the best product instead of greed and revenues
True bro
The only reason why the 7700X was worse in Cyberpunk was because the game itself handles Ryzen CPUs terribly. It's gotten to the point where people have modded the game to properly utilize the Ryzen CPUs. The Devs have acknowledged this issue and said that it will finally be solved in update 2.0 which will be released a few days later. So, except the Cyberpunk benchmark, everything here is on point.
Thanks for letting us know with great and useful information
It is true that in gaming the R7-7700x is better than the i5-13600k but in general the i5 is a much better processor than the R7 and in multitasking it beats it by a lot; Additionally, you have to take into account that the tests are done at 1080p and the tendency is to play at 2K and 4K; I can assure you that at 2K and 4K the performance is the same since it depends more on the graphics than the processor. For me the i5 is better value for money but it is my personal opinion, however both are excellent processors to be honest.
The only Problem was the SMT. The Game itself get with the 2.0 Update 16 core support and fix the smt problem for the 8 core cpus. It can improve the +4 e cores from intel too and the 16 core amd CPU will get the most Performance increase, but they said smt should be turned off, because they can't really fix that.
@@Mummra_zu It's only about 4000 points above the 7700x in cinebench multicore r23 plus it consumes about 50/60 watts more and warms up easily, the ryzen cpus with undervolt/overclock are truly efficient and might even get better results than stock
@@riccardotesta987 13600K undervolts like crazy I went from 96C after a pass in Cinebench R23 to 85C just from lowering the CPU Lite load setting in BIOS, Didn't lose any performance as well (same cinebench results). some people can make it down to mode 1 (lowest voltage) but it's luck of the draw, Mine has been rock stable at mode 3 for 6 months so far (default is mode 12).
decided to go 13600kf back in april as it was the best bang for the buck compared to AM5. today i'd go for 7800x3d
Today I'd wait for Zen 5 or Arrow Lake.
7800x3d is way more expensive than the i5
no.in my country 13600kf=7800x3d@@Rockybalboa541
@@Rockybalboa541 also mobo more expensive, ram more expensive
For sure the Intel one. Yes, average fps are slightly lower in most games, but 1% lows and 0.1% lows are usually equal or better than the Ryzen's ones. It also got some nice iGPU which comes in handy if you wanna do something content related, but if you dont care I assume the 13600KF is better, cause cheaper and no iGPU.
The 7700x also has an integrated gpu. 400 for cpu mobo and ram for 7700x build from micro center is just too good.
@@ognaim Yeah, microcenter bundles are amazing. They recently added a 7800x3d bundle for just 500 which is an absolute steal
@@Astrow1zardholy hell that is good
@@ognaim It has a iGPU, but it's not really useful for anything besides just a display. The Intel CPUs are great for streaming and encoding due to Quicksync.
Both CPUs are pretty equal though. Only downside is if you on a budget and want to use DDR4. You are forced to take DDR5 with that 7700X.
@@ognaimonly in the US. Plus the mobo and ram prices for ddr5 are insane here in Finland and rest of Europe
The most fascinating thing to me is that this shows thre 13600K consistently pulling 10+ watts *less* than the 7700x in the games. That runs counter to the narrative of 'power hungry Intel' when running full load tests luke Blender.
new intel cpus are actually efficient when its not on full load, example this one pulling abt 20w less than the 7700x while gaming. regardless of that tho you shouldnt be worried about heat or wattage if ur using ghe 13600k just undervolt and its gonna pull much less. same for 7700x use eco mode or just buy the 7700
13900k gives the rest of 13th gen a bad name
Thanks for E-Core and Windows 11 optimization for new Intel CPUs, in Full Load i5-13600K consume same that Ryzen 9 7900X, but worth it because much cores for low price
This is mainly because the stock 7700X is too aggressive with clocks, the non-X 7700 performs 5% worse but draws 60w-70w less power.
The 7700 non x pulls 65w and is only 3-5% less than x without pbo. Turn on pbo and theyre equal.
12th / 13th gen Intel are strange breeds in which you can disable the E cores and get higher scores in some games.
nah, disabling ecores makes only sense with 12600k If you push ring +ram oc high. Others with 8 ecores benefit more with disabling ht this will allow to push p-cores +100-200 mhz at same voltage.
@@ezioauditore1588 True.... when Alder lake first came out it was better to disable the E-Cores... but now it's not.
I saw a guy on a subreddit claiming to get the best gaming performance out of his 13900k by disabling Hyperthreading and turning off half of the E-Cores.
Depends on the game, some game benefits with e core enabled
Imagine disabling extra cores for 5FPS in gaming, wasted of multi-tasking capabilities!!!
Is the 7700x delidding?Or use another CPU cooler?
Why is the power consumption of 7700x so high?My 7700x consumes only 114w at full load.
You have issues becuase I can make my 7500F draw 200W when overclocked
the 13600K can handle higher RAM speeds so it's a no brainer go with the 13600K.
But it has two less cores for gaming. I had the 13600k and it sucked for mp online gaming. Took it all back and got 7700x and it is day night difference.
@@almir-lq9qw I have both and the 13600K destroys the 7700X. It has 20 threads over the 16 threads on the 7700X.
@JayzBeerz 6 cores and 12 threads are dedicated for gaming tho. 7700x is way better for online multi-player games due to 8 cores and 16 threads. 7700x is basically a 13900k for half the price if you're just gaming. 13700k and 13900k are fine because they have 8 cores and 16 threads dedicated for gaming, just like the 7700x.
I'm surprised of the Intel's low power draw numbers here, I generally have experienced 13600k pull at min 125W in almost any game title.
Can u confirm? Haven't seen yet
Its only doing 5GHz, with a real overclock to say 5.8GHz all core it would put at least a 20% gap on this cpu and consume a whole lot more power. Intel is releasing this cpus pretty tamed
Keep up the good work but can in benchmark add some rt testing cuz cpu bound when rt enable
How is it possible that you need a 4090 to break 70fps @ 1080p max on Hogwarts Legacy. Is the game that poorly optimized, or is this a mistake?
AMD CPU has better latency, sadly it draws a lot power to maintain that latency, hoping for Intel+Nvidia vs AMD+Radeon in the next video please 😁
you mean intel ;d ring have lower latency than infinity fabric.
@@ezioauditore1588 Nope IF now have better latency than Intel, but this really import? Both are monsters CPU Intel better in workloads and more cheaper, AMD better in efficiency and gaming performance, I prefer low power consumption, but Intel is more cheaper and have better workloads performance, I will for Intel with sure
@@kevinyoliveira68 then explain why intel with 1500mhz imc (gear 2) ddr5 still have lower memory latency than ryzen with 3000 mhz imc (gear1) at same ram speed 😀
you have to give intel 7200mhz ram because it can do it and use it while amd cant. faster ddr5 really shows in starfield for example
I have a 13600k, it cant handle more than 6600mhz
13600k can handle upto 7200 mhz, check your motherboard bios
Is the i5 13600k in stock or did you move something for those temperatures? I'm looking at what Heatsink to buy. Greetings, I hope you can help me.
its using only 60 watts in the video but should tdp to 125
I was about to upgrade my r7 2700 workstation to a 7700, but I run into some benches putting the i5 13600k in the same level, looked to buy a used one and made a pretty good deal, bought an MSI pro x690 ddr4 motherboard + i5 13600k for 230 bucks, huge improvement and kept my 64GB ddr4 from previous setup, biggest improvement ever for little money. Only downside is how hot it runs, had to watter cool it to keep the same silence I had with AMD stock cooler at load wen rendering my 3D models.
maybe undervolt it down to 1.18-1.2v
Pessima scelta.
@@gabrieleb.6053 Dado o cenário qual seria a tua escolha gastando o mesmo valor?
What software do u use to display the stats & fps? Also how can i monitor the wattage of my pc?
@@rusudan9631 okay bro. Tnx
RivaTuner, via MSI Afterburner. Open Afterburner settings, go to Monitoring tab and choose which parameters you want to show on the overlay.
12600K and 5600X/5700X are the best gaming cpus to play 1440p/2160p as prooven in this video with DDR4. No gains as comparison shows.
That wrong
Couple take aways:
-This is at 1080p with a ****** RTX 4090 the average joe will be at 1440p with a ~RTX 3070
-AM5 has been unstable as hell with RAM issues, random crashes, and the fire hazard.
-Intel 12,13th gen has been rock solid stability wise and the Microcenter combos are insanely cheap.
As someone who tries to stay as neutral as possible I would go with Intel.
i5 still has room to be overclocked and gain some fps, while ryzens are OC`d from the factory to the limit
Who overclocks CPUs anymore?
@@sheek1982the virgin above u
I don't think anyone overclocks CPUs nowadays
7700X can't OC ?
how about PBO Curve ?
@@maarerabagodbra2515 that's different from oc
curve optimizer brings better performance, temp, and power consumption for the same clock
"but intel has less power draw🤓🤓🤓" wait until yall mfs find out about undervolting
how can you keep 7700x below 70c degree under 100W load?
what a dumb question, just get nice thermal paste and good CPU cooler
bro my 7700x runs around 85 while gaming 🥲
@@Coco_cocaine I totally agree. I'm about to get a PC but I've heard that Ryzen 7 7700X reaches even 90°C which is not so good in the long run that it is going to reduce the lifespan of the CPU and therefore , I started looking for a good Intel CPU within the same price range and then I came across 13600k which brought me to this video.
Could anybody tell whether i5 13600k is good for RX 7800 XT? It will be a great help.
@@gauravsinha6060 did you get rx 7800xt with i5 13600k how it's performing please tell
Check out both power consumption number
13600k has significantly higher oc headroom, you can oc p cores to 5.6-5.8ghz all core and then there is ram tuning which is another huge bonus for intel chip, well tuned 13600k will match 7800x3d and lazily tuned 13600k will easily outperform tuned 7700x. Without oc its a tough choice, 13600k still has more MT performance though and runs significantly cooler, i would still take 13600k over 7700x
True.... but maybe 1% to 5% of PC users actually overclock. There is also more performance that can be picked up out of the 7700x.
You can pick up quite a bit more performance out of both platforms by overclocking the RAM and tweaking the timings + sub timings. Zen 3 and 4 are very responsive to high end RAM kits that have low timing along with a Voltage offset and good cooling. If the user can manage a 20% offset along with an overkill CPU cooler, run the RAM at 6400MT/s, 3200MHz fabric, push the timings and subtimings as low as possible
Does disabling e cores help with getting an even higher oc? I am basically locked at 5.5 and can't go higher.
@@m8x425 Its a long running myth that ryzen has much higher ram overclocking gains than intel equivalent, the issue with am5 platform that it tops out at very low memory bandwidth, 6200mt/s and if you are lucky 6400mt/s. On am5 all you can do really is to reduce memory latency and even cpu's themselves do not have any oc headroom. So even if you dont oc you can gain with xmp ram much better results on intel just by getting higher rated ram out of the box.
@@AyazDaoud it might give a hundred mhz but i would not recommend if you use your cpu for general use, leave e cores on and if you cant get higher than 5.5 then leave it at that, try oc e cores as well
@@AyazDaoud leave ecores enabled and if you want you can disable ht becouse most games dont use and this will allow you to push 100-200 mhz more on p-cores at same voltage.
Much lower CPU power draw with 13600k never getting 90w, hard to believe...
In my country AMD build is some like ~U$100 more expensive because DDR5, Intel have DDR4 option and only ~8% less performance compared with expensive DDR5
7700x destroys the 13600k in online multi-player games. Idk why these benchmarks that are meant for gpus are being used to tell what cpu is capable of. Want to test a cpu? Use real world scenarios like online gaming.
i'm biased towards intel but this is quite clear
I am AMD fan but Intel is clearly better, this extra core help in multi-tasking
im not a fan or biased towards anyone, AMD just uses superior technology and this is only a 1st gen of AM5 processors LOL
@@divinehatred6021 "I am not biased, but here is why I am biased"
Ryzen is ~7% faster than Intel, but 20% cheaper.
last time i checked 13600K is a lot cheaper than the 7700X
I would rather get Ryzen 7 5800X3D instead of these 2 because it's cheaper and uses less power with similar performance
Agree. I'm saving up for one and planning on pairing it with 7800xt.
The Ryzen 7 5800x3D is only worth it if you're still on AM4. Otherwise you might as well just get a cheaper and yet as fast 7600x
In gaming they are similar ) but in workstations 13600K destroys both
In workloads even 13400 will be faster than 5800x3d
@@ShoxruxbekAbduraxmonov-tk8yu don't think this is a selling point. The 5800x3d is simply a gaming cpu.
These days, more than Intel
I think Ryzen is doing better
For me Intel do better more cores, cheaper build DDR4 option with slight worse gaming performance and more colder CPUs (except for shit i9), I like of AMD, but Intel is better deal
@@kevinyoliveira68 lmao 5700x3d destroys all the DDR4 processors intel had to offer
Performance per watt the intel smokes ryzen and they are cheaper
The Ryzen 7 7700X is the i9-11900K of Zen 4.
I just saw a 7900x for sale asking $250 on Facebook marketplace.
13600k with 7000-7400MHz ram and 5.3-5.5GHz will destroy 7700x ;)
7700x has limit ~6200-6400MHz ram with good motherboards.
same gains goes for ryzen with good subtimings
@@aditrex and limit with 4 banks od memory. Good luck.
@@matii1616 that tipcly intel fanboi speaking but again they both benefit about the same from memory tuning but now go figure
Даже 8000+ даст максимум 5-7 фпс и смысл?
@@aditrex you forget that ring have lower latency so its more responsive than amd on same fps.
does he record with the same config or other pc ?
Which one should I get for productivity any gaming? I play at 1440p and do video editing/ blender
13600К
Wait for the i7-14700k.... it will have 12x E-Cores and 8x P-Cores.
@@m8x425Yeah I’m not sure whether to upgrade now or wait until the next generation of CPU’s and GPU’s comes out
I have a i7 9700K and a 2080 Super, of course all I really play is Skyrim xD
@@OneFreeMan17 Tbh you could wait like another year or do what my dad is doing and just get a $2500 pre built nzxt pc lol. 4070 ti and ryzen 7 7700x all white. But fr tho maybe best to wait but if anything upgrade your cpu and mobo first. (or get a ddr5 mobo instead of a ddr4 mobo for intel) if you think its worth it then go for it.
@@KrAk_D0g Well I already have a custom PC with a Corsair 7000D Airflow case xD
It seems like the graphics card is what I need to upgrade since I’m using all 4K mods in Skyrim SE, but then I also need to change the mobo/cpu so it’s not bottlenecks by the current 9700K 🤷♂️
Why am I watching computerstuff again on youtube!
Ryzen is still a little faster
7600x is more powerful in all other games! not even mentioning the 7700 x. only in cyberpunk the 13600k is better.
Is the i5 13600k undervolted in the video?
by the power consumption looks hugely undervolted, 7700x not or oc.
no they both are stock
Testing 4070 12gb + Ryzen 9 7950x
Brother if me do i5 13600k overclock at 5.0 ghz then warranty avoided???
that 5.5ghz 8 (real gaming) cores will lasts for long, long time
CSGO & Rainbow Six Siege are the most pointless games that I see being benchmarked. 600/700 + FPS? What's the point in measuring it? There are no monitors which can reproduce such high frames anyways.
AMD with 6 intel with 3, AMD Winners
power consumption: AMD > intel in all games
It is expected, 7700X literally costs a lot fmore
which is good for editing?
Intel
Start testing Counter strike 2 instead of CS:GO😊
Request can u do Ryzen 7 7800x3d with 4060 ti
Nice!❤
Ryzen 7800x 3D is king of gaming in some games it is 15 to 25 percent faster then 13900k.That refresh 14900k will not close such a huge gap no way.
its not. On some games it even loses to 13900k
@@xTurtleOW yes in old fashioned games where Mghz matters more but even there is close.15-25 wins are basically generation jump that is why 14900k will not be able to beat 7800x3d it is just rebranded 13900ks with maybe less power consumption.Maybe.
Wait next year. Intel will have the same node size as AMD and I think they'll win big time.@@markolumovic2750
Dude that cpu costs 100 more
Imagine comparing 7800x3d that cost 100plus more than the i5
You down volted the i5 13600kf
Can someone explain. Video card and CPU loaded not fully 60-80% both there and there, but fps different ?)
I think these are stock settings.
IDK
Because the 4090 is a lot of GPU for those resolutions, many game engines are not prepared to give infinite FPS, and they cannot take advantage of all the cores, in the case of Intel of those 14 cores, only the 6 pcores can be used in gamig
13600K can OC 5.5G 24x7
Yo the i5 is 30% cheaper at similar performance
8/16 ryzen often at 80% and even more usage...
Im doomed cpu usage is going up with these games. Baldur gate maxing my cpu
Лимиты с процессора не снимал?
Lol! CPUs are pulling 1000 fps in CS Go.
how is the ryzen running at
it only goes up to 95 with multitasking,
who better 2024 intel or amd ?
at this moment, amd at high end; lets wait tell zen 5 and arrow lake release
13700k👍
I am AMD team (processors only)
I am that AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU the best, but I will for Intel CPU + AMD GPU hahaha
Хватает ли данных процессоров для раскрытия, всего потпнцеала производительности RTX 4090?
Я вот видел серьёзный тест, где взрослый парень, очень сильно радовался тому, что его i5 13400F, способен задействовать RTX 4070Ti на 95-98%
Más que de sobra para sacar todo el potencial de la rtx 4090
7700х the better
7800X3D BEST KING CPU GAMNG IN THE WORLD
AMD Fanboys not trying to mention 7800X3D for 2 seconds challenge (impossible)
@@auritro3903 idk man it is currently the best CPU on the market. and soon AMD will be releasing their ryzen 9000 X3D series tbh their standard CPU werent much of a difference from the current series. AMD is actually struggling to beat themselves
intel is cheaper, less heat, less latency, less wattage. the clear winner
Intel is more power hungry, latency both are same and Ryzen 7 7700X perform better in gaming, but really i5 heat less and have more core and better for multi-tasking and both CPU cost same (at least in my country), but Intel Mobos DDR4 + Memos DDR4 cost like ~U$100 more cheaper and only ~8% less performance then Intel better option for me
@@kevinyoliveira68 13600K is drawing 10-20W less in this test for generally similar performance, so at mid or low end, Intel is more power efficient than Ryzen.
@@auritro3903 i5-13600K only power efficient in light tasks, Intel is more power hungry in full load
@@kevinyoliveira68 yeah true, its still ok with i5, but with i9 the power hungry nature of intel at full load is shown at full capacity
@@auritro3903 200W is much for i5, but they work more stable than i9 also i5-13600K/i5-14600K so close in performance with i9-12900K then nothing bad
How do you get high core uitilization on your CPUs?
I have an RX 6800 + R7 5700X and only get 10% CPU util in most games
Because it's RTX 4090
You want lower utilization means your gpu is being fed the frames fast enough.
It turns out I bought 13600k in vain
This amd cpu is already overclocked from the factory, but intel doesn't. If your motherboard has a good enough VRM, overclock the 13600k to 5.7 + performance will improve a lot, and you can take advantage of it. use ddr4 ram with intel thsy because ddr5 ram and main price is also cheaper than new AM5 main board if you even use main z 690 series it is much cheaper, while the difference in fps is not significant then for work 13600k completely destroys 7700X
@@chien.nguyen. 5.7GHz for more +100W and ~100ºC and only ~5% performance gains overclock is wast of time, energy and money (better cooler), I prefer UV and UC about OC
A bit faster for a bit more price.
Faster? Are you blind dude?
the r7 won more times than the i5 did in this benchmark, are you blind?
@@OmnianMIU 💀
7700X is cheaper in the country I live in. (13600K) $376 vs $327 (7700X)
@@shadowlemon69are you blind??? R7 vs i5!!!!! I5 have better power consumptuon and more core count. But for 5% of fps is bettere 7700x. Ok buddy
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these processors are equal in performance, since I looked at other tests and the 13600K won there
I haven't seen any other benchmark where the 13600k wins. it usually trails the others, including the 7600x. People have done videos trying to figure out why and most say its because of the smaller L3 cache size.
@@m8x425this is not true, I’m from Russia and I saw a bunch of reviews on Russian-language channels, we conducted a bunch of tests, where 13600 showed itself perfectly, you can type 7700vs 13600 into a search engine, I watched a lot of tests, 13600 always won
wtf 1080p, excume?
what do you mean?
It’s a cpu test >.>
@@OneFreeMan17 yeah, Idk what op is tryna say
Right imagine testing CPU in 8k lmao
Power efficiency of ryzen 7000... cit.
just turn on curve optimizer on ryzen master,
better performance for 40% less power consumption
Just OC/UV for same results on intel
curve optimizer is different from oc
do some research.. noob
curve optimizer brings better performance, temp, and power consumption for the same clock
@@saputrasaputra3347 don't cry dude, the result of UV/OC is the same, "more performance for minus power consumption"
Intel is more power hungry that AMD while both are full load, but Intel is more colder and have more cores/threads, I prefer i5 and i7 about some R5 and R7, but I prefer R9 about i9 easily
Pretty evenly matched, but I think intel wins here
i7 10700f, or i9 10900f will better than any new cpu bc lower price more power cores less tdp dont needed expansive motherbord and air cool. for games it will be best processor for many years, for work better ryzen with 16/32
I5 is better
Less FPS, but extra cores, better build prices (DDR4) and less heat then better deal
It doesn't matter if AMD did bad or good, there will always be the majority of fanboys justifying their lows.
Same for Intel, fanboys and haters always sucks in some
c.pwr higher on ryzen, electricity $$ otherwise good stuff
Intel is more power hungry in full load, Intel is only better optmized in gaming
@@kevinyoliveira68 better optimized for gaming at mid and lower end, 13900K generally draws over a 100W in gaming (although it can be fixed by undervolting)
@@auritro3903 Nope
@@kevinyoliveira68 see 7950X vs 13900K benchmarks, non UV 13900K generally performs slightly better than non UV 7950X, but also uses more than 20W on average. When its 13900K vs 7950X3D, the gap is even more, where 7950X3D wins in most benchmarks while consuming less power
RAYTRACIN MUST ON !!! MUST !!!
i7 10700f, or i9 10900f will better than any new cpu in games bc lower price more power cores less tdp dont needed expansive motherbord and air cool. for games it will be best processor for many years, for work better ryzen with 16/32
One of the dumbest comments I've seen yet. No one should be buying a 10th gen CPU.
Lmao always i5-12400F destroy i9-10900F in gaming, old Intel cpus are only very bad
@@kevinyoliveira68 not that they are bad, just that they are an older generation, and that there is no use of buying them today