A Critique of Ori and the Blind Forest

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2020
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    Pristine clockwork and a beautiful soul. Ori and the Blind Forest seems poised to be a masterpiece. A metroidvania motherlode. But does it still live up to the the hype? 5 years later, in critique, we're going to find out.
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  • @Whitelight
    @Whitelight  3 года назад +216

    Don't be like the spirt tree. Just make a website at www.squarespace.com/whitelight with code "whitelight" for 10% off.
    This was certainly an ambitious project. Hope it worked out. I'm excited to try Will of Wisps, but right now, I'm still working on Watch Dogs 2. It's coming soon.

    • @matthegarty6235
      @matthegarty6235 3 года назад +1

      Wills of the Wisps actually has combat that is fun, at least.

    • @ThePhvraoh
      @ThePhvraoh 3 года назад +1

      Ah yes I hate being like the Spirt tree

    • @ThePhvraoh
      @ThePhvraoh 3 года назад +1

      All jokes aside, great video as always. Keep it up👌

    • @GardenOwlksj
      @GardenOwlksj 3 года назад +2

      If you ever become a book writer I will read every single last book you make

    • @Extinction296
      @Extinction296 3 года назад

      Idk if you already have or not but I think you'd enjoy Bloodborne

  • @shankypanky8879
    @shankypanky8879 3 года назад +855

    For people wondering - A nearly 47-minute video just 10 days after his last video?
    Whitelight played Ori and the Blind Forest on launch. Took him 5 years to make this.

    • @corbinfreeman6607
      @corbinfreeman6607 3 года назад +47

      Explain his death stranding video

    • @memestien34
      @memestien34 3 года назад +110

      @@corbinfreeman6607 simple. He had tge game for over 40 years

    • @corbinfreeman6607
      @corbinfreeman6607 3 года назад +34

      Are you implying that he’s been studying the game itself since Sam Porter Bridges was a child?

    • @joetaxpayer8180
      @joetaxpayer8180 3 года назад +3

      @@corbinfreeman6607 yes

    • @kin-3877
      @kin-3877 3 года назад +95

      @@memestien34 whitelight was the first strand type reviewer

  • @ILLREVIEWANYTHING
    @ILLREVIEWANYTHING 3 года назад +925

    "You need a soul to be called a masterpiece. Not just pristine clockwork." This is my new favorite quote about rating something a 10/10

    • @xXFlorianXx10001
      @xXFlorianXx10001 3 года назад +31

      True, altho I feel like Ori definietly has that "soul" and it's the gaming term "masterpiece" that lessens the vaulue of rating :/

    • @ILLREVIEWANYTHING
      @ILLREVIEWANYTHING 3 года назад +5

      @@xXFlorianXx10001 I would further argue that something has to be innovative as well.

    • @greasy4457
      @greasy4457 3 года назад +31

      @@ILLREVIEWANYTHING there'll be a point when theres nothing innovative

    • @sportsjefe
      @sportsjefe 3 года назад +50

      @@greasy4457 agreed, the idea that every game must offer something new doesn't allow for the refinement of what we currently have.

    • @rustemagayev8256
      @rustemagayev8256 3 года назад +4

      actually, sometimes soul is enough for something to be 10/10

  • @MartinMillerGuitar
    @MartinMillerGuitar 3 года назад +469

    Mate, you're one hell of a writer!

    • @njc119
      @njc119 3 года назад +2

      DUDE!!!! MARTIN MILLER IS A GAMER TOO??!!

    • @MartinMillerGuitar
      @MartinMillerGuitar 3 года назад +3

      @@njc119 Since the late 80s!

    • @dahabaufnacken960
      @dahabaufnacken960 3 года назад +2

      I mean everyone complains for some reason because the review is not up to the usual "fallout standarts"... But I feel spoiled whenever I watch his content.

    • @redfoofan4618
      @redfoofan4618 2 года назад

      Well, this is one hell of a game!

  • @LauraPlatt
    @LauraPlatt 3 года назад +483

    Watching this after it came out in my recommendations, I just about spat out my drink when you quoted me at 22:41. Thank you so much for the shout out, wow!

    • @jasondads9509
      @jasondads9509 3 года назад +9

      Would you be able to tell us what it means now? XD

    • @LauraPlatt
      @LauraPlatt 3 года назад +50

      @@jasondads9509, sure! Going from the basics, essentially, a bassline is pattern of notes taken by the bottom or lowest note played and acts as a sort of tonal "home" for where you're at in a piece of music at any one time. An "ascending" bassline is when each bassline note in the sequence is higher than the previous one - it can give you the feeling of rising tension, or climbing ("Summit" from Celeste also does this really well). Whenever an ascending bassline reaches its highest note, you'd think that the bassline would have to drop back down to a lower note.
      However, in the track "Climbing the Ginzo Tree", whenever this occurs, other instruments in the ensemble actually continue the phrase from the very top of the bassline. When we listen to this, we interpret it as continuing the same line perpetually, and over the course of the piece, the line is handed off multiple times to multiple instruments in sequence to reinforce this idea. This gives you a feeling of endlessly rising - and underneath, each time this occurs, a bass part will start from the lowest note again, starting a new sequence of notes that plays at the same time as the previous one. This gives you a real feeling of constant ascension and continuous escalation of tension.

    • @jasondads9509
      @jasondads9509 3 года назад +8

      @@LauraPlatt Ah.... Listening to those 2 I can kind of hear what you mean now. Thanks for that great explanation!

    • @elifriend6556
      @elifriend6556 3 года назад +3

      @@LauraPlatt Now, that answers my question. Those kind of sound system defines what type of game it is. We gamers love games not just because of the concept art but also because of the fittings of the music. Like in an action game, whenever we face many enemies, the music begins to play from 60 to 128 beats per second or more. This is art. Games are meant to combine 2 different kinds of art. The music and painting. An art for an art.
      Just my observation.

  • @icedragon4008
    @icedragon4008 3 года назад +120

    I don't mind the trial and error in the escape sequences. You understand nearly all the obstacles after one death and once you finish the escpape without dying it still feels incredible satisfying.

    • @everwho9329
      @everwho9329 3 года назад +1

      Actually, the Forlorn Runes not come near as trial and error as the last scene, there is some suspicious empty space remind me the rock would fall, and the acidic joke one, seems so strict, due to the color and the transparent of the water. However, I escaped Forlorn with 3-5 tries, mostly death come from my bad control, not surprise, but the last scene really hard, and that make me stop playing until 1 week later then finish this art.

    • @naejimba
      @naejimba 2 года назад +6

      ^This. Finally completing it as everything falls apart around you is insanely satisfying. It is a test of mastering a new ability and flawless execution. This feeling of barely making it out by the skin of your teeth wouldn't be possible without the difficulty and seemingly impossible odds of escape. Because of this it requires trial and error... after all, it is like a final test that you have to complete.

    • @danielfletcher706
      @danielfletcher706 Месяц назад

      the volcano escape has lackluster pathing directions at the final stage imo

  • @sup3rAVATARtlafAN
    @sup3rAVATARtlafAN 3 года назад +353

    The blind forest is good, but will of the wisps is such a leap it’s amazing.

    • @utisti4976
      @utisti4976 3 года назад +68

      I didn't like the story as much in Will of the Wisps.
      The combat and platforming is absolutely phenomenal, but it felt too easy, at least until you get to the tough bosses.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 года назад +39

      Honestly, Will of the Wisps felt like it wasn't a sequel to Ori. The ultimate beauty of Ori 1 was its combination of combat and movement represented by the Bash ability. Mash X isn't the best but with it alongside Bash you fight while you move, dodging while attacking. Ori 2 sort of spits in the face of that concept, you stop moving in order to attack. The escape sequences and boss fights never matched the depth or intensity of the escape sequences in the original game.
      Ori 2 feels like the devs wanted to combine Hollow Knight, Metroid Fusion, and then added Bash on top to represent Ori 1. It isn't expanding on Ori 1, it is adding the key feature of Ori 1 to a different game. It always makes me a bit sad when people to praise Will of the Wisps so highly over The Blind Forest.

    • @AwkwardKali
      @AwkwardKali 3 года назад +15

      Ehhh, will of the wisps combat seemed to take way too much inspiration from hollow knight for my liking. Don't get me wrong I love hollow knight, but ori, at least the first one, was very different and it felt like moon studios just wanted to ride the success of it. To be fair, I absolutely love the combat in will of the wisps, I just wish it didn't feel like hollow knight.
      The story also doesn't feel compelling at all. The only reason ori and ku are in the situation is because they were being stupid and arrogant. Ku never flew before and just decides yup I'm gonna fly miles away from the only home I've ever known. Ori, who has seen firsthand the dangers the world can hold, never thought to say hey maybe we should turn around. Or when the storm came neither of them thought to land.
      Plus I don't really have a reason to care for ku beyond the game saying I should. There was barely anything in the game that made me personally care about her. The only thing that got me emotional was when Shreik yeeted her into the ground and damn near killed her. Then again, it was the game telling me I should care about that moment more than me actually caring about it. Other than those gripes I would say will of the wisps is an excellent.

    • @palawolfy4855
      @palawolfy4855 3 года назад

      @@utisti4976 wait the game is out already?!

    • @HNfilms
      @HNfilms 3 года назад +13

      i guess im in the monority that the first game is way more focused, both in story and gameplay, plus the second game rehashes a lot of set pieces from the first game which is disappointing.

  • @user-rw6yq2tt1o
    @user-rw6yq2tt1o 3 года назад +244

    “Back when I thought Joseph Anderson was one of the 12 disciples.” Lmao

    • @mr24coja
      @mr24coja 3 года назад +15

      I didn't know he wasn't? :p

    • @BarneysPlayhouse
      @BarneysPlayhouse 3 года назад +1

      Hahahahah where does he says that?

    • @Sassy_Witch
      @Sassy_Witch 3 года назад +11

      imagine thinking hes good

    • @joetaxpayer8180
      @joetaxpayer8180 3 года назад +33

      @@Sassy_Witch "imagine thinking" bro just shut up please

    • @ericw9466
      @ericw9466 3 года назад +27

      @@joetaxpayer8180 "Imagine Thinking" - John Lennon

  • @slimjunkin4635
    @slimjunkin4635 3 года назад +164

    This game was such a surprise to me when I played it a year or two after it came out. Absolutely beautiful work of art

    • @Quack_attack_
      @Quack_attack_ 6 месяцев назад

      Same here idk how but both Ori games got by me until a month ago I played em and fell in love with em both

  • @alfieburnley2825
    @alfieburnley2825 3 года назад +60

    I loved this game. The music, set pieces, art, story, characters. All amazing

  • @cxbralxve
    @cxbralxve 3 года назад +48

    Can't wait for 2022 to see the video "Hollow Knight: 5 Years Later"

    • @andreyovcharenko1999
      @andreyovcharenko1999 3 месяца назад +1

      Here I am in 2024 and it still hasn’t come out…

    • @cxbralxve
      @cxbralxve 3 месяца назад

      @@andreyovcharenko1999 truly terrible times we live in

  • @loganlamoreaux5347
    @loganlamoreaux5347 3 года назад +30

    I remember playing the flood level over and over again, it took me so long to beat it but it was intense and enjoyable the entire time. The music just takes control and makes you feel the same desperation that Ori has in this moment. For some reason, I played through almost the entire game not understanding that holding the bash button slowed down time, I just pressed and released it instantly. As a result, this section was way more difficult for me than it ever should have been, but those split second, no hesitation decisions made the level feel absolutely incredible, and increased the pace dramatically. In the final few seconds of the level I was spamming buttons and trying to redirect myself with almost no time in between jumps, and it was the best experience I have ever had in a game. I wish the bash mechanic did not have the ability to stop time, because it completely changed the game for me and I feel bad that most other players never experienced it like that.

    • @kirin1230
      @kirin1230 3 года назад +7

      The flood sequence took me almost an hour, but it was so rewarding! Ori is my favourite game of all time.

    • @MacenW
      @MacenW 2 года назад

      @@kirin1230 it’s in my top 10 or 5

  • @rampagerslife
    @rampagerslife 3 года назад +101

    this channel is just "feel old yet?"

    • @JrottenOlm
      @JrottenOlm 3 года назад +9

      tfw 2010 was 20 years ago

    • @Jerryx29
      @Jerryx29 3 года назад +7

      @@JrottenOlm hold up

  • @Senkushi
    @Senkushi 3 года назад +82

    40:29 this guy's such a good writer he snuck a meme joke inside a chemistry joke I'm-

    • @TheHalogen131
      @TheHalogen131 3 года назад +7

      Yep, that was a great line.

    • @garg0yl3
      @garg0yl3 3 года назад +8

      I swear it flew over my head until i read this comment. Thank you, kind sir!

  • @Quietwulf1978
    @Quietwulf1978 3 года назад +14

    Thanks for the great essay!
    Yes, some of the games challenges have some real teeth, but I can tell you man.. when I overcame those challenges I screamed in triumph.
    Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but Ori for me, feels like a metaphor for life.
    Ori's is a journey of struggle. Of joy. Of tremedeous sadness and sacrifice. The story of Ori is our story.
    Those moments of frustration, of struggle.. we'll all face them. We'll all have challenges placed in our paths that threaten to overwhelm us. Yet, if we presist, if we push beyond what we think we can achieve, we often surprise ourselves with how far we can go.
    What Ori doesn't do is cheat you. I never felt like I was fighting against the game. Whenever I failed, I knew it was because I wasn't a match for the task. Yet, it gave me enough, made me hope, made be believe that if I just pushed harder, if I just got up again, the next time I could make it happen.
    There's value in that story. In embracing the difficulties of life that are sometimes thrust upon us. People often forget, we didn't invent games just to entertain. We invented them to teach.

    • @FlyfishermanMike
      @FlyfishermanMike 3 года назад

      Agreed. I was never overly frustrated and never felt I died due to cheap shots. I liked the joys of skill based, timing and memorization challenges all rolled into one. WotW was truly a masterpiece!

  • @ThePC007
    @ThePC007 3 года назад +14

    I think the change of pace in the Forlorn Ruins kind of makes sense. It's supposed to be kind of slow and depressing, while the rest of the game is very joyful and lighthearted. The music even reflects this fact quite well.

  • @KoPT01
    @KoPT01 3 года назад +25

    The Ori games are some of my favorite of all time (especially the music and art), and I'm glad you are covering them. I can't believe it's been five years!!
    And as alive as the first game was, the second somehow manages to make it look static in comparison. The team at Moon Studios are truly amazing.

  • @maxhonig283
    @maxhonig283 3 года назад +194

    I know you just released this one but I'm never gonna have a better chance, You are going to do one for ori and the will of the wisps right?

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  3 года назад +194

      I'd love to. This video's gotta not fail though.

    • @amintron
      @amintron 3 года назад +53

      And hollow knight

    • @noahdavis8626
      @noahdavis8626 3 года назад +27

      Oh my god please do a Hollow Knight one

    • @TheHalogen131
      @TheHalogen131 3 года назад +24

      Yes! It won't fail! And then do Hollow Knight! Many people are hyped for Silksong, this is a great time for videos about these games!

    • @Ancor_Vantian
      @Ancor_Vantian 3 года назад +2

      @@Whitelight It won't :)
      Your work is always amazing.

  • @jeck2875
    @jeck2875 3 года назад +82

    Commenting so that RUclips knows I'm engaged in this content

    • @Sebasu_tan
      @Sebasu_tan 3 года назад +3

      Preach!

    • @deloopoo4
      @deloopoo4 3 года назад +4

      im also engaged with the content yes

    • @StrayCatAnimations
      @StrayCatAnimations 3 года назад +4

      @Deloopoo yes, me too

    • @SuperLeonBlade
      @SuperLeonBlade 3 года назад +3

      Congratulations. When's the wedding?

    • @Herodegon
      @Herodegon 3 года назад +1

      RUclips thinks everyone on this platform is an ADD-inflicted child until they sit down and write their exit ticket.
      "My name is *SOCK BOI,* and I think this content gud"

  • @davids2977
    @davids2977 3 года назад +17

    I absolutely loved this game. But when I realized that there was an achievement for doing it without death I laughed my ass off because my first run amassed something close to 400 deaths.

    • @Quack_attack_
      @Quack_attack_ 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah me too lol I got every achievement except that 1

    • @sssan7802
      @sssan7802 4 месяца назад

      I have 450 deaths for first time, but after 1 week i get 11 on hard mode XD

  • @chickendrawsdogs3343
    @chickendrawsdogs3343 3 года назад +57

    Ori set my immune system to: "Avoid artistically pleasing, cute-looking small games like this one because it will devastate you emotionally - one way or another."

    • @user-hs7hw6hq7w
      @user-hs7hw6hq7w 19 часов назад

      Because there's always a reason for a game to look like it's painted. Usually a sad one

  • @MikeZach
    @MikeZach 3 года назад +10

    Stunning art, music and level design. Glad to see you found some joy in it - segments like the Ginso tree really are highlighted, unforgettable gaming moments to me.
    My video essay on Ori is about 6 months old now, and while not as crisp as yours, it really was nice to refesh some of those fuzzy memories. Thanks Whitelight for making this!

  • @hex9318
    @hex9318 3 года назад +10

    5 years later and still my dad hasn't returned. Please come back dad, no matter how many times you change your name I know it's still you.

  • @rasmustagu
    @rasmustagu 3 года назад +17

    To this day the biggest "whoah" I've gotten out of games as a whole, truly re-opened my eyes on platformers afters years of neglect and ignorance and showed me how good one can really be, with it's world, movesets and how they're utilized, visuals and ofc: the soundtrack. - Thanks to that, it has became one of my favorite games of all time!
    Great fuckin' video!

    • @MacenW
      @MacenW 2 года назад

      Same.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 3 года назад +12

    I’ve recently gotten into Ori for the first time, thinking it would be just another Shovel Knight/Hollow Knight clone, but holy hell. I was so, so wrong.

    • @utisti4976
      @utisti4976 3 года назад +9

      Best mistake you ever made, huh? :P

    • @Quazey
      @Quazey 3 года назад +3

      Ori 2 kind of is, luckily I love Hollow Knight

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 года назад

      It actually looks better than Hollow Knight.

  • @Siyan4x
    @Siyan4x 3 года назад +19

    While I think the frustration in the mount horu escape is very well deserved, I feel that the complaint on the constant death cycle wasn’t. At this point tin the game, the player is very much (or should be) used to the cycle of “live, die, repeat”. It’s very much baked into the game as one of its defining characteristics. An that idea is the epitome of the final escape sequence, much like ginso tree, though admittedly insanely more frustrating. The immediate tone shift at the end also gives a massive emotional feel as it the sudden contrast makes you fell the ending a lot more imo.

    • @naejimba
      @naejimba 2 года назад +1

      I agree. Look at how old school games always had that cycle of death and learning that requires perfect execution to proceed (makes me think of the infamous Super Ghouls and Ghosts), and how something like Dark Souls used it as an intentional design choice. That might not be someone's preference, but it's just that... personal preference and not necessarily objectively bad design.

    • @platoscatboy9772
      @platoscatboy9772 Год назад +1

      @@naejimba Agreed and I'd like to add that it honestly wasn't THAT bad, nowhere near as difficult as the games you mentioned or other difficult platformers/dungeon crawlers/rogugelites/games that have player death as a learning step. In fact I was actually quite surprised the last section frustrated so many players; I never had an issue with it. I made it through after only.. what, 5 deaths? Pretty normal. And I'm a pretty mediocre player when it comes to platformers lmao,, at that point the player should've learned to be smart and cautious while being confident enough to not hesitate, effectively being able to avoid most of the "trial-and-error" traps. After the first few deaths it becomes pretty predictable anyways... even if not, each step you go you learn the trap, the scenerio, so as to avoid doing the same mistake next time, a la groundhog day time loop, in which case the sequence probably should take you maybe 10(?) deaths. It's actually pretty fun.

  • @ptprojektred
    @ptprojektred 3 года назад +38

    "Because one can not have shit in Detroit" my faverout quote so far

    • @hawkswordzero2206
      @hawkswordzero2206 3 года назад +1

      I must admit, it was a change of pace from the earlier rhyming.

    • @solitary2
      @solitary2 3 года назад

      Hawksword Zero That’s why it’s so great. The unpredicted Switch up

  • @LeSangDuTigre
    @LeSangDuTigre 3 года назад +4

    Yours quickly became one of my favourite youtube channels. Thanks for every new video.

  • @sambit1278
    @sambit1278 Год назад +15

    In the intro scene when his mother died my 7 year old sister literally cried. Thats how powerful the story telling is. And as a casual gamer i never played something like this.

  • @senseweaver01
    @senseweaver01 3 года назад +27

    Ori and the Blind Forest and Hollow Knight are my two favourite metroidvania games of all time. Someone could tear this game apart for hours and I would never lose my love for it. I can't say that about many games

    • @logandurand8063
      @logandurand8063 3 года назад +5

      Me too, though i also think that if you havent played ori and the will of the wisps, it will definitivley get added to thatlist

    • @senseweaver01
      @senseweaver01 3 года назад +5

      ​@@logandurand8063 Funny you should say that! I got a Nintendo Switch a few weeks ago and finished soon after you commented, then I totally forgot to get back to you. But you're right, I absolutely loved it! They managed to improve on every single thing that Blind Forest already did so well. What a game! 10/10, absolutely.

    • @JustRandomSymbols
      @JustRandomSymbols 3 года назад

      @@senseweaver01 hey man, i just was thinking about buying Nintendo Switch, but im not sure, worth it it's money or not. A lot of people said to me, that its amazing, but im looking at the prices of games, and it scares me. As i know, its only a few games that are worth its money and time, but Switch is kinda expensive for itself, and buying it only for a few games is stupid, IMHO. So what do you think?

    • @senseweaver01
      @senseweaver01 3 года назад +2

      @@JustRandomSymbols I have Breath of the Wild, Hollow Knight and Super Mario Odyssey on my Switch (as well as both Ori's). Those games make it absolutely worth it! But I recommend getting the Switch Lite, honestly it's not worth spending more money on the controller functions on either side. But I seriously recommend these games man, they're brilliant!

  • @STartist.
    @STartist. 3 года назад +1

    I'm so glad you showed up in my recommended man I really enjoy your videos

  • @detectiveg8053
    @detectiveg8053 3 года назад +2

    I loved the awesome review! You never fail to dissapoint with the quality of these videos

  • @SSGSSTahmid
    @SSGSSTahmid 3 года назад +3

    Man ori and the will of the wisps improved so much on the animations realising after seeing this and finishing and posting gameplay vids on my channel on it

  • @naivaidyagarg1338
    @naivaidyagarg1338 3 года назад +12

    33:37 Lazy town reference, I could not stop laughing.

  • @unintentionallydramatic
    @unintentionallydramatic 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the continually amazing content, WL.
    Love not just the depth of the videos but also the range of games you cover.
    Would love a retrospective on the Prince of Persia series some day.

  • @MAXfutbol8338
    @MAXfutbol8338 3 года назад +1

    Why doesn't this have more views? This is an awesome look at one of the most loved games ever made. I love how you mentioned the theme of the gray area between light and dark, and how Kuuro's species literally dies at the hand of what is portrayed as the most virtuous people, especially after playing as one who controls as beautifully as Ori. Your writing is also top notch, jokes land and insights are gained. "...the brain rewards learning by succeeding in a system where failure is likely." That line definitely got me thinking about life's big picture and it was only 8 and a half minutes in. Superb work.

  • @coldrunhershel604
    @coldrunhershel604 3 года назад +2

    Loved the Joseph Anderson reference. You among him and few other channels of similar genre are the holy grail of gaming nostalgia

  • @jurajkormanovic8710
    @jurajkormanovic8710 3 года назад +19

    Lately you've been releasing analysis of some of my favourite game. Thank you. Kepp it up.

  • @vishuprathikanti9352
    @vishuprathikanti9352 3 года назад +1

    Yo the editing in these videos have gotten really good. I especially noticed it in the syndicate video, and it continues here.

  • @waron4fun597
    @waron4fun597 3 года назад +8

    You know what is amazing... Whitelight wasn't the first to bring up these problems with the first Ori game because the community slowly made each one known over time, and Moon Studios fixed basically all of the problems Whitelight discussed. Now that is how you game studio!

    • @kirin1230
      @kirin1230 3 года назад +3

      Moon studios, one of my favourite game development studios ever, with arguably the best logo opening theme. Seriously, both Ori games' openings are amazing and give me goosebumps! I'll always remember Moon's logo from them.

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 3 года назад +2

      @@kirin1230 I always loved how Moon Studio's logo was so crisp in the intro and then came Microsoft's low-res pixelated mess, lol.

    • @kirin1230
      @kirin1230 3 года назад

      @@ThePC007 Haha, the music more than makes up for it though. Seriously, this is one of the best openings of all time. Also, is it just me, or does Moon's logo radiate "we're the guys who made Ori"? I get that vibe from it... It's a great logo.

  • @deltadoos5805
    @deltadoos5805 3 года назад +1

    Love you Whitelight, this was great

  • @marciturani6416
    @marciturani6416 3 года назад +3

    That was a smooth transition to the ad

  • @Thomas-ww1tp
    @Thomas-ww1tp 3 года назад +2

    This is the best kind of video - not even a minute in and he's already made a solid point.

  • @jonm4736
    @jonm4736 3 года назад

    I think this is your best video yet. Great job!

  • @anyarr
    @anyarr 3 года назад

    I rarely watch videos this long on RUclips, but I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis of this game.

  • @PiercingSight
    @PiercingSight 3 года назад +16

    I don't remember struggling with most of the things that you did in the game. And the things I *did* struggle with were things that I felt were perfectly fair or added to the feel of the game world.
    There are a lot of moments in the game where you complain about level design being unpredictable, hard to parse, or poorly designed, but in the context of a game that is designed to feel like a natural world that has grown on its own, a lot of that unpredictability and "poor" design actually lends itself to the feel that this world is alive on its own, and isn't simply designed to pander to Ori and achieving Ori's goals. I greatly appreciated when it looked like there was a path when there wasn't because that's what a real forest would be like. I loved when a chase sequence would do something unpredictable to kill me because that's how such an event would actually be. And I loved when a new mechanic would throw out all of Ori's existing movement skills in favor of a new temporary way of thinking about the world because it was a new and unique experience.
    More than half of the things you complain about are things that I loved because they added a realistic depth to the world, even if one would say they are unfair or unfriendly. A realistic world SHOULD be unfair and unfriendly. And while there is obviously a limit to that philosophy, I don't think that Ori overstepped the line at all.
    Plus, the music and artwork more than makeup for any shortcomings. Friggin' beautiful.
    PS: Playing Ori with a keyboard is like trying to play Rocket League with DK Bongos. You're going to have a bad time.

    • @Quietwulf1978
      @Quietwulf1978 3 года назад +2

      PiercingSight Damn that’s a great comment. Couldn’t agree more. You captured exactly how I felt while working through the game.

    • @lunagrace2872
      @lunagrace2872 3 года назад +2

      That exactly what I thought too. Plus the tough “escapes” are usually a bit after you get a new ability or 2. Just when you think you have completely master the new ability Ori forces you to reconsider. From being great a new ability but to mastering your newer abilities. It’s push and pull making the player feel strong and nibble not always. It also make you feel weak and less skilled because it puts in perspective that you aren’t god in the game, you aren’t a crazy overly super power being but a spirit that has amazing ability that still can be killed. It forces to player to always be on the watch and be alert. The devs want to push the player through these incredible difficult challenges to show that you can and are better then what you are. And when you master the “escape” you feel exhilarated, pleased, surprised of your self, confident and like you won a marathon. I love being challenged and being destroyed because it’s makes me a better gamer and more confident in my skills and the feeling is truly the best.
      Note I never have played platform before but I knew this game was going to be hard. So I decided to play in hard mode to challenge myself. Died over 1,500 time in the game, but I also got every collectible. 😅 I was frustrated sometimes but I never regretted and absolutely loved how hard, frustrating, confident, fun, and gorgeous this game is.

  • @chunliisthebest
    @chunliisthebest 3 года назад +1

    One of these days there has to be a massive collab between all the youtube game analysis channels, and that day will be glorious

  • @glenharris9366
    @glenharris9366 3 года назад +5

    Loved this game. One of the only 2d platformers I played this last decade, and perhaps the only one I finished. Currently enjoying the sequel!

  • @SnipeSniperNEW
    @SnipeSniperNEW 3 года назад +3

    there is a part in ori squeal were the difficulty curve literally jumps to the sky it is the Escape the Giant Sand Worm If i recall correctly, I probably died like 5-6 times in the whole game while in this part alone died about 100+ times to get it down

  • @Halosrighthand
    @Halosrighthand 3 года назад +60

    Aww damn Whitelight name dropped Joseph this gonna be a good one boys

    • @felipeb.serabion7437
      @felipeb.serabion7437 3 года назад +5

      This is the second time i see him doing that hahaha. But, is there something behind that, or is it just fun between video game critics?

    • @Halosrighthand
      @Halosrighthand 3 года назад +23

      @@felipeb.serabion7437 I'm sure they just like poking fun at each other as they are very similar oriented channels

    • @SahiPie
      @SahiPie 3 года назад +12

      Felipe B. Serabion Joseph gets name dropped a lot across critique channels and channels similar to it as he is literally the OG of the genre on RUclips. The guy set the bar for RUclips game critique.

    • @-d-939
      @-d-939 3 года назад +18

      The long ass youtube video essay interconnected universe.

    • @ken_thatswild
      @ken_thatswild 3 года назад +3

      @@SahiPie Actually mathewmatosis is the og. Joseph has admitted so himself. But J blew up more.

  • @stanyspol8878
    @stanyspol8878 3 года назад

    Them videos just keep coming!

  • @brennenbezdecheck7385
    @brennenbezdecheck7385 3 года назад +5

    Incredible analysis of the game. I hope this gains more traction and eyes/ears, soon. This was way too well edited and put together to not be in the millions of views.

  • @bikkyychaudhry4510
    @bikkyychaudhry4510 3 года назад +16

    Still waiting for the "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Trilogy: 'X' Years Later" video.

    • @mashiromoritaka6299
      @mashiromoritaka6299 3 года назад

      wrong channel buddy lol

    • @bikkyychaudhry4510
      @bikkyychaudhry4510 3 года назад +4

      @@mashiromoritaka6299 Wrong buddy. He already confirmed he would be doing them at some point a while ago.

    • @fawazgerhard2742
      @fawazgerhard2742 3 года назад

      i haven't played stalker but i heard it is a masterpiece. should i play it?

    • @bikkyychaudhry4510
      @bikkyychaudhry4510 3 года назад +2

      ​@@fawazgerhard2742 I wouldn't exactly call them a masterpiece, Tbh they are pretty flawed both technically and gameplay design wise. And their engine is kinda... broken to a level that would make even Bethesda proud. But they are very unique, atmospheric, open world horror shooters and the first of their kind. In fact these are the OGs of open world shooters.
      S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games were relatively unpopular because they were always PC exclusives but S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is on the horizon and is coming first time on xbox consoles along with PCs so all that is about to change. So, if you are a PC gamer then you should definitely give them a go. But don't go in expecting polished masterpieces. These games can be very unfair, uncertain and challenging at first until you get better gear. Some even consider them as the "dark souls" of shooter games. So, prepare to die a lot at first. Plus, there are MODs. Lots n lots of MODs.

  • @OldTime--Gamer
    @OldTime--Gamer 11 месяцев назад

    Damn bro, your video essays are greatly written and perfectly narrated. me luv it :)

  • @alexbubble6952
    @alexbubble6952 3 года назад +8

    This was unexpected, but still very nice.

  • @kingdisco9652
    @kingdisco9652 Месяц назад +1

    Banger video, always feels good to watch a video that agrees with literally all of my opinions.

  • @Shiro-yh6pv
    @Shiro-yh6pv 3 года назад

    Let's gooo! Another Whitelight video!!!!

  • @Ben-ew3hv
    @Ben-ew3hv 3 года назад +1

    my man is banging out long high quality videos

  • @yamaidar
    @yamaidar 3 года назад +1

    Had this game in my library for ages, but didn't bother to play. This video convinced me to try it out, and I enjoyed it quite a lot. Thanks!

  • @MainManMemphis
    @MainManMemphis 8 месяцев назад

    I come back and watch this video every now and again. Shame it didn’t do as well as the other vids, I really hoped to see the review of the second game.
    This is a weird place to leave this comment, but on the odd chance that you do actually read this, you are my favourite video game analysis, and one of my favourite RUclipsrs, you’re content has been something I genuinely look forward to and whenever I see the notification telling me a new video is up, I look forward to watching it later that day, and maybe the next depending on how long it is.
    Even games that I knew nothing about, like watchdogs or your recent videos on watchdogs legion and dishonored 2, it was still a joy to watch you talk about them. I think your videos are amazing.
    Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @lordfangar5671
    @lordfangar5671 3 года назад +1

    I will also now proceed to watch this video over and over till your next comes out. You're easily one of my favorite creators whitelight, I love how much effort you put into every single video, and you're easily my favorite "review channel" I say it in quotes because you seem like so much more than just that. You got me to even enjoy 7 hours of fucking death stranding content. There are so many games I'd would absolutely love for you to review, like monster hunter or halo or dark siders 3 or etc etc etc, sad thing is I know you cant do all of them because playing through the games and making a video up to your standard of quality I imagine would take forever. So I'm just gonna accept whatever video you put out, and love it all the same.

  • @thaddeushamlet
    @thaddeushamlet 3 года назад +2

    I only ever played the version with fast travel, and I almost never used it. They made movement so fun, and fast when you get into it, that I only ever felt urged to use it when going for 100% and had those last few pickups in the far corners of the map that I had traversed so many times it was almost memory of button presses rather than reaction guiding me through.

  • @reptilec3
    @reptilec3 3 года назад

    Hey Whitelight i just want to say thank you for your videos. Your Lengthy opinion peaces make my 9 hour shifts that much more bearable. Keep up the great work!

  • @yektaagra741
    @yektaagra741 3 года назад

    man i love his videos. they give me a new perspective

  • @danyhocine
    @danyhocine 3 года назад

    Omg, Nakey Jakey and now Whitelight released a video the same day ? Made my day.

  • @vortexken4028
    @vortexken4028 3 года назад +3

    This game is just a beautiful treat every playthrough. Everything is improved on in the sequel as well. The ori series in a whole is a masterpiece which I will hold to my heart forever.

  • @mrbarefootbogan6254
    @mrbarefootbogan6254 3 года назад +4

    Wait... 5 Years!? I feel so old :(

  • @elijahcastillo7679
    @elijahcastillo7679 3 года назад +7

    I’ve been looking forward this all day! On an unrelated note, do you think you’ll ever make a video over Darksiders 3. I’d be interested to see what you think since it wasn’t made by the same company, even though it had some of the same people.

  • @edangster
    @edangster 3 года назад

    Never played this game or watched it but excited to hear your input!

  • @bresevic7418
    @bresevic7418 3 года назад

    I don't normally compliment ad plugs but you did an excellent job with this one, it was brief, informative, and hilarious 👍👍👍👍 keep it up

  • @jeanels7425
    @jeanels7425 3 года назад

    Great video man

  • @utisti4976
    @utisti4976 3 года назад +2

    Ori & The Blind Forest is one of my most favorite games of all time next to Skyrim, Divinity Original Sin II, Fallout: New Vegas, and Dark Souls III.
    Every playthrough is an absolute delight.
    Everything about it is super special to me.
    The artstyle.
    The level design.
    The music.
    The characters.
    The story.
    The world.
    Everything.

  • @Black3ternity
    @Black3ternity 3 года назад +14

    Man - you just made me weep.
    I played through this gem and was in tears. An Amazing game and I loved it. It has quirks - it has frustrating moments.
    But this is what I want in a game.
    I need to play the Will of the Wisps.
    Thank you for this video - I nearly forgot how nice this game is.

    • @MacenW
      @MacenW 2 года назад

      Will of the Wisps is alright

  • @SuperSilver253
    @SuperSilver253 3 года назад +3

    Beautiful review, amazing writing and presentation of the game and put every criticism and love about the game in a better way then I could every say myself. And even with all the issues of the game, I still love the game to death!

  • @alexanderulv3886
    @alexanderulv3886 3 года назад

    I've just begun this game! So excited, its already astonishingly beautiful, gonna save this video till i've finished it.

  • @Delsuu
    @Delsuu 3 года назад

    Wow. This is actually very informative and very amazing writing.

  • @ZS2802
    @ZS2802 3 года назад +1

    Thank you whitelight

  • @canyoncerva5385
    @canyoncerva5385 3 года назад

    I can't believe it's been five years. One of my favorites

  • @adityaskumar7197
    @adityaskumar7197 3 года назад +1

    I'm dying to hear you breakdown the infamous series brother

  • @_inSight__
    @_inSight__ 3 года назад

    My heart...is LITERALLY....RACING...and getting faster as you talk about the Ginso Tree. I’m not embarrassed to admit it took me over an hour to beat it because I underestimated it’s difficulty and tried to complete it after already playing for 5 hours. My god, it still gives me anxiety 😥

  • @dusanvukovic9950
    @dusanvukovic9950 3 года назад

    What a great video well done my brother

  • @ScavsAteMyLegs
    @ScavsAteMyLegs 3 года назад +2

    33:38 I never would have thought that that would come up in a meaningful conversation haha

  • @nikolasciomek7461
    @nikolasciomek7461 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @Pictavienne
    @Pictavienne 3 года назад

    This video showed up right as I was listening to the phenomenal soundtrack of the game!

  • @tonyalmodovar7629
    @tonyalmodovar7629 3 года назад

    His voice makes is just the best for these video game essays.

  • @ladyhoratia1709
    @ladyhoratia1709 3 года назад +3

    the fact that I got given Ori and the Will of the Wisps as a gift TODAY and you released this video TODAY feels like too much of a coincidence. do you live in my house? hah

  • @samhurrell2263
    @samhurrell2263 3 года назад

    This video very eloquently explained to me why I only completed the Ginso Tree escape and then never really got much further with this game. Once I got through that brilliant escape sequence I thought I was maybe starting to get the hang of this game; boy was I wrong. The difficulty curve kept increasing while my skill seemed to be staying largely stationary. Maybe I should have looked into the game more before picking it up, but as I made slow progress the game seemed to get less fair and and was really stressful to play! I don't mind a game that requires you to be on your toes, or where you die a lot, but I had no idea that was what I was getting into when I started.
    Thank you for a great video that helped me to articulate why the rest of the game was so hard and mostly not fun after the Ginso Tree.

  • @l0rdsnorlax
    @l0rdsnorlax 3 года назад +1

    I want to see a will of the wisps review eventually as well

  • @idksomedude3032
    @idksomedude3032 3 года назад +2

    This video reminded me that Shammy still exists. His channel has 2 videos in the last 2 years

    • @tsunamie1015
      @tsunamie1015 3 года назад

      Bless Shammy tho. His videos are pure gold.
      I think he now has a secondary channel, or something. Not quite sure though.

  • @trustyWeedGuy
    @trustyWeedGuy 2 года назад +1

    This was a beautiful video about a beautiful game.

  • @laptopgladiator4078
    @laptopgladiator4078 3 года назад

    Woah this came out quick

  • @photon6419
    @photon6419 3 года назад

    Perfect timing thanks

  • @brandonwilliams6221
    @brandonwilliams6221 3 года назад

    The monotone delivery of a lazy town reference was superb

  • @karmakitsune
    @karmakitsune 3 года назад

    So when I did that final escape at 39:43 I actually went faster then the game expected me too, and as a result when Kuro would show up she would actually Shake the lanterns, meaning I couldn’t reach them and the timing to reach them before the lava pillar hit me was thrown off, I eventually had to Slow down my pacing knowing it would keep happening.

  • @m_jade3602
    @m_jade3602 3 года назад

    This is good content... absolutely beautiful

  • @memeskeepmealive2585
    @memeskeepmealive2585 3 года назад +1

    finishing this game was so rewarding

  • @dainchi.
    @dainchi. 3 года назад

    Dude, you‘re an amazing writer!

  • @Ronin11111111
    @Ronin11111111 3 года назад +3

    Hollow Knight set my expectations of indie games so high that even great games like Ori don't really compell me. I watched a whole playthrough and several analysis videos, but I can't help but think I would have been dissapointed by this game if I've played it. Hollow Knight is so long and all it's elements synergize so beautifully that I feel like I have unrealistic expectations towards other games.
    Fuck me, now I'm thinking about Silksong again! Gaaaaah! When are we getting any news on that!?! I'm STARVIN' 'ERE!

  • @tinror
    @tinror 2 года назад

    That's a fine poetic review, thank you.

  • @donatodiniccolodibettobardi842
    @donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 3 года назад +4

    I like how your spoken presentation reads almost like a poetry.
    It is a very enjoyable (and rather unique) experience.