MIRRORLESS Cameras Aren't for ME
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In this video I talk about why I'm moving away from mirrorless cameras, my Canon RP, and back towards DSLR cameras. While I can see the advantages of a mirrorless camera system I still much prefer using a DSLR camera like my Canon 1D Mark 3.
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Couldnt agree more. I recently sold a Panasonic S1 and have replaced with a Nikon D800 and a D700 which I only ordered Friday from Japan.
Brilliant cameras. I have gone back to my D800. Got some amazing Zeiss and Voitlander glass. Mirrorless is naff.
After spending a 30 plus year career looking at models through a optical viewfinder, I tolerated a digital viewfinder exactly one day..... no joke... if you are shooting videos, get yourself a mirrorless, but still guys need an optical viewfinder for all the reasons you mentioned and especially looking at the real world rather then a digital version of it..... who needs that aggravation...
I Miss seeing new DSLR Cameras Coming out. there are lots of photographer going back with film and dslr camera. Awesome Videos My friend 👍👍👍👍👍
Pentax seems to be our only hope in that departent actually doing the job of developing new dslr cameras. The K3 iii and K3 iii monocromme seems to be fantastic and the K1ii is a beast albeit in need of an update.
I tried a few mirrorless cameras but I couldn't get on with the EVF, it feels like I'm looking at a security camera and there's a weird disconnect between reality and what I'm looking at in the EVF. It's not enjoyable and feel like it gives me eye strain too.
Yep! I really hope the pendulum swings back to the middle and companies will decide to still offer DSLR options along side the mirrorless. At the moment it seems like a lot of companies are just moving full steam ahead with mirrorless. On the positive side there are lots of high end DSLR’s as well as EF/F mount glass on the use market for great prices.
I totally agree, you are right just because there is a craze for mirrorless doesn't mean that all the images from amazing cameras and lenses from the recent past haven't just started taking burry images.
I feel the same way about the OVF/EVF thing, can’t really stand the EVF. Even though I have two different mirrorless cameras, I find myself still taking out my DSLR more often.
It’s a case of you either love them or hate them isn’t it. I’ve always preferred OVFs and it’s going to take something special to change that I think. Thanks for watching Tom.
I don’t go outside to look at a tiny screen, I go outside to look at and see the world
Sold my Z7ll, and bought a D850, i am very happy.
What made you sell the Z72?
@@ChrisBaitson I thought that the Z7 was going to give me something that my D850 couldn't, that's not the case, and that tiny wheel on the left side of the Z7 i really dislike, it reminds of a cheap crop body from years ago.
Hi Chris I can't comment on Canon mirrorless but I switched to Fuji mirrorless about 8 years ago and don't regret it one bit. I love the EVF on my XT2 and XT3. In the earlier models there was a slight lag but in the later models that is practically non existent. Obviously battery life isn't as good but I just carry half a dozen 3rd party batteries (£10 each) just to be sure I won't run out. On a cold day I can get through 3-4 batteries but I still prefer the handling and overall user friendly system of the Fuji. Each to their own though and I can understand those that still prefer to shoot with DSLR's
Thanks for the comment Paul. It all comes down to personal preference and there’s no right or wrong answer. If I didn’t still have the DSLR cameras it probably wouldn’t be an issue but given the choice I seem to be taking the 1D/7D out a lot more recently.
Great video and points. I dont think id be bothered to even try the mirrorless.
I'm still using the canon 5D Mark 2 that I bought new and my canon 7d with a 400mm lens. I do own 2 small sony cameras the a6000, and the a6500 but I just love the color science from canon plus I have a few pieces of L glass that I love. In the end it's all personal preference and if you can afford the mirrorless system.
Well said. It’s personal preference all the way. Given the choice I seem to be picking up my 7D or 1D a lot more lately. I’m not saying mirrorless cameras are bad, they’re great, but there’s still something about mirrors and prisms for me that I find a big draw.
For me it's a question of price. I do think the recent mirrorless lenses are probably better than DSLR cam lenses, but by how much? Can you really see it? Can it really make a difference in real life, for a non-pro like me? The price to pay for FF mirrorless simply can't be justified for the marginally better quality. I have a GH5, which is mirrorless, and a D700, and for photos, I rarely reach for the GH5 anymore, unless I need an articulated screen. There is NO way 99% of most people will take advantage of the small increase in quality offered my mirrorless lenses. Besides, how judicious is it to spend the amount of money asked by Sony and others to go FF with a mirrorless system when most people will be blown away by what comes out of a D750. Does anybody really need a camera "better" than a D750?
Interesting thoughts! I haven't owned a decent mirrorless camera for photography, pretty happy with my DSLR atm, but when I come up to switch my camera out in the future I will probably consider a mirrorless. The only thing that would put me off would be the price of having to replace my lenses. The battery life is a good point, I already feel as though I carry a million spares with me for my vlog camera. I don't have to think too much about my Nikon battery life. Nice video, not easy to get out atm for some outdoor shoots with this horrid weather.
Mirrorless camera tech is amazing and it does have the little quality of life features that make them special. But for me, personally, I just prefer using my DSLR cameras. I think if I solely owned mirrorless it wouldn’t even be an issue for me but when I have the option it makes it tough.
Really enjoyed this video and I can definitely relate, having replaced my Canon 5D (original) with an RP, and using it alongside an 80D. I love the RP especially in low light and with prime lenses (via an EF adapter) but I find my EF 24-105L tips forward as you say and RF lens are ridiculously expensive at the moment. I expected my RP to be my go-to lens for family days out but it's the 80D that wins every time, and the RP is more for when I'm focused on the photography.
My RP has recently became my video camera and I’ve shifted towards my 1D & 7D more and more. I think the benefits of mirrorless play more towards a video camera than a stills camera. Of course everything is subjective but I just can’t get on the mirrorless hype train at the moment. Thanks for watching ☺️
Great video man, totally agree
Thanks Chris 💪🏻
Even though the S1 had one of the best EVF’s out there…I prefer OVF. Also never had a dslr glitch out on me, the S1 did and the shutter half depress for focus which I prefer was unusable it had a real hair-trigger and was impossible to focus without taking a shot so was forced to use back button focus which is fine but I like the choice!
Stopped using my Fuji GFX. Had it for two years and have grown to hate it. I've gone back to my D800 and I have missed it so much. Looking through the OVF is far superior than crappy mirrorless. I can get better results on my D800 than I eved did on my GFX and it's far more fun using a DSLR. I also find the DSLR more expressive to use. You feel like your are part of the world looking through an OVF. People just keep buying into the marketing crap camera manufacturers keep pushing to us.We never needed mirrorless. It's slow as fuck, laggy and to be honest it's a bad technology I wish that was never invented. I'll keep buying used DSLR's s long as they are around. Mark my words. The next trend to come along will be people buying vintage DSLRs. Prices are going to hit the roofs in the next few years.
Only have to look at the “RUclips popular” Canon 5D4 to see you’re spot on about the vintage DSLRs!
DSLRs for me.
It will be a long time before I make the switch.I use 2 x Canon 5ď mkiv and the Canon 5dsr Unfortunately a lot of people think that there photography will improve by making the switch, believe me,I see this in my photography workshops all the time.
Sure.Mirrorless is the new kid on the block.However look at the size of the lenses.They are huge.Big lens on a small body.
Also.Whats the point in having a 40 or 50 Meg camera if your only posting to social media.Just doesn't make sense.
Great video
Well said
Cheers
Old gears can certainly still work for you and that's great, but I'd feel bad for your workshop attendees if they somehow bought dslr instead of newer mirrorless based on your suggestions.
@@miaoxiang7377 what suggestions?
I make a very good living out of using OLD GEAR.And I don't care what cameras my attendees who attended our workshops use,which I have been holding for 17 years.
Also Regarding old gear I am a professional commercial photographer and I use 5 year old Hasselblads.
And not one of my clients has ever asked me what cameras I use.
So I take it you are a mirrorless owner by your uneducated response.
Have a great day
@@SniperPhotography good to know you didn't mislead your attendees, have a good day.
Mate I chopped all my Canon gear in (7d2 + 4 lenses) and made move to Sony A7R4. Yes big investment in the new body but it is amazing. I now have just two lenses 16-35 GM and a 28-200 Tamron. I really don’t need anything else.
I looked at a Sony before I moved to the RP but I just don’t have the money for such investments any more. 4 minions to look after these days and I just love the Canon L stuff too much but it’s all a case of personal preference. There’s no right or wrong answer I don’t t think.
@@ChrisBaitson you’re absolutely right mate. A good pal of mine uses Leica and swears by it even for landscapes. Yeh big investment but don’t get me wrong most of the cost was offset by trading in a lot of gear including some decent lenses.
My issue is finding the time. I’ve a full time job and a child it’s so tough to get out.
Sorry I know this is 2 years old but I was searching to see if I was alone with the lag. I shoot a lot of cinema spaces its very dark but I can see everything fine with the optical viewfinder but when used an evf the first time it really held me up having to move and wait for the viewfinder to catch up with every micro adjustment on the tripod. I thought maybe I just needed to educate myself a bit further as I found switching to bulb made things better but it was a bit fo a pain compared to what I was used to. I guess different tools for different jobs
I own a Z8 buut also a D850.
D850 does everything a Z8 does.
Both are great. Mirrorless vs DSLR same thing.
I think the best camera is the one you will use. Everyday. Camera that will be used and abused. Not the one you will babysit 😅
And one zoom lens like 24-70/120 with two primes. 35 and 85mm.
One small bag and a passport full of stamps 😊
Its me again lols! I had an EOS M6 MKII through work for recording projects, they also had a Sony A7 II - Both cameras were very cramped with the controls, as a person with bigger hands, I virtually found the M6 unusable - as it drove me bonkers keep thumbing other controls on the back, no doubt a great Vlog camera but way to small for comfort for me, and although I could use my EF glass on the little M, it was unbalanced & handled horribly, The Sony was pretty much the same I found very very cramped grip, in fact my finger tips almost pinched between the lens barrel and the grip - again like the OLED add on viewfinder for the Canon M the image in my view was horrid, I much much prefer the optical viewfinder. Having the use of the newer tech above, made me really appreciate my wonderful 5D MKIII a gorgeous lump of a camera that's great to hold, with a optical viewfinder top info LCD, and nicely spaced out controls
I had an M6 and for video it wasn’t too bad but like you say I found it too small and with adapted lenses it felt very lens heavy. Just wasn’t a fan of it.
Did you burn out your clutch dragging that 1d around?
Misfiring and they want more than it’s worth to repair it.
@@ChrisBaitson Sorry to hear that Chris. I hope you realise I was joking.
On that note, if you get a Nissan leaf now, you'll be able to get unlimited mileage using the 1d battery.
@@squibfrog Yeah I know and that joke had me howling 😂
I agree with you on this!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Swapping a DSLR viewfinder for Mirrorless is like looking through a digital window... Why would anyone choose that?
I hate my mirrorless too! I have a Sony. Switched from nikon. The lenses are crazy expensive. No old school amazing but cheap glass like my nikon had. And my gosh the menus in the Sony are ridiculous, absolutely endless and wayyyy over complicated.
Yep I hear ya mate. I feel like I should be embracing mirrorless and i was the first to embrace it when the first olympus pen came out. But I got tired of low batteries, looking at a screen to capture photos, and lack of shallow depth. So I got a 6D and I loved it but it died recently and I had no choice but to go back to mirrorless again. I thought well I might as well get the best so I forked out nearly 10 grand for a r5 and all the bits and pieces I needed for it and I'm struggling to enjoy photography. I mean, its still big and ugly, (I thought the point of mirrorless was to reduce size), and the lenses are too expensive. Its the whole shooting experience too. I love looking through the lens. I mean thats what the lens is seeing, not an EVF. Battery life hasn't evolved either apparently, or the demands on them is too much. And the menus are more complicated etc etc etc.. Also, I cant seem to get perfect focus anymore. If at least i could focus a shot. Oh how I would love to find another 6D unopened box, wish I'd bought 5.
I sold my 6D for the RP and soon regretted it. Mirrorless are great for video and that’s where my RP ended up - I now used a 1D3, a 5D3 and the 7D. Mirrorless are great for some things but for pure photos you can’t beat a DSLR. That’s just my opinion of course.
Hmm, it's horses for courses Chris. Personally I don't see the point in lugging huge bricks around. I have very big pockets for batteries and there are mirrorless cameras that don't need EVFs. My Fuji Xpro2 is a case in point and I prefer shooting with just the OV and histogram, especially if I'm using old Canon FD lenses. Admittedly I rely on the electronic overlay and focus peaking on the hybrid VF. Saves on batteries. Talking of batteries, I am awaiting delivery of the battery for my old analogue Canon A1, a 'proper camera'.
I think it just comes down to personal preference. There’s no right or wrong answer. My M6 doesn’t have an EVF and while I love it for video, taking photos without a viewfinder melts my brain. Focus peaking is something I do love about the mirrorless systems and it’s made all of my old manual lenses a dream to use but there’s just something about looking at real life though an OVF that I just prefer.
Staying with my 5DmkIV....
Good shout!
Totally agree Chris, I had the 1300d which was my first DSLR but had an accident a couple of years ago where I fell into a small stream, small but down a 10 foot embankment, all my gear was ruined. As I mainly shoot Street I went for the Fuji Xt3 with the insurance, I was looking to upgrade anyway but I’d been looking at the 90d since it was just a rumour but suddenly stopped, also the EOS R too, no idea why but I wish i hadn’t, didn’t think the RP was right for me though, don’t ask why. Don’t get me wrong, the Xt3 is great for my Street Photos but I just have not got along with it, never felt comfortable and as you say, the lens prices and the battery power really are sticking points, unless that’s the budget you have, I don’t.
I’ll more than likely stick with Mirrorless for my Street stuff but not sure I’ll stick with the Xt3, if I could I’d go for the R6 or the Sony A7iii, but with my low budget I’ll more than likely stick to Fuji but go for the XT4 as there’s some great prices at the minute for new so used should be even better.
Yeah budget is a big part of how I do this. The Sony cameras are where you want to be for mirrorless. They got it right out the gate. I’ve never used a Fuji but from what I’ve been told the sensors seem like they’re a bit fussy with RAW file editing. My RP is a nice camera and I do enjoy using it but there is still something about a DSLR that I enjoy just a little bit more.
@@ChrisBaitson I've even thought of saving and picking up a 6d or something purely for Land/Seascapes etc
Yeah the 6D was what I used before I got my RP and to be fair they’re a fairly capable camera.
@@ChrisBaitson When I was waiting for the insurance to pay out my daughters fella lent me his Nikon 3100 …Awful, but my mate sent me his spare camera, the 6d with a 90mm and 70-200mm both L series lenses, older but just brilliant. Even more so with me coming from an entry level Canon dslr, which I loved but I’d started finding out it’s limitations and gone as far as I could with it, useless in low light but I had got some great images with it. The 6d though, I only had a few weeks, wouldn’t even let me pay postage which was £27, he’s a professional product photographer, last I heard he was doing food for cook books, about to start on a very big project for some big companies then Covid hit, the project got dumped.
The only mirroless I use is a compact Lumix LX100 for when I want to travel light and fast, give me an optical viewfinder any day!
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I make the majority of my content with an M50 mirrorless. I bought a 7d as a back up body to take on jobs. I've started to use the 7d with my ef lenses and I just prefer how it feels in my hands. The menus and settings make you think before using them, but I'm getting there. I shoot alot of video I would love an R6, but because I shoot hybrid I sometimes this 5d mkiv. Its a quandary. Lol
Sounds like a similar position to me there. I love my M6 for video but I’ve never really used it for photography. Might have to crack it out and see what it can do.
@@ChrisBaitson I find the m50 awesome and underrated - the M6 is a very similar / slightly better camera. I know my business is always going to need a hybrid camera...its just which one. I think the M50 will eventually be a good B cam. And the 7d i love - i just need it to justify its position in my bag. lol
Sony Cybershot here 📸😂😆
"I bought the lowest end full frame mirrorless, it's not good enough". Try R6 or R5, you may change your mind.
Do they come with OVFs?
@@ChrisBaitson Moot point, OVF are not "better" than latest evfs.
@@miaoxiang7377 Hmm, yes they are because you are looking at real life and not a tv screen
@@4Kandlez Only if your goal is just looking at the scene in a boxed frame instead of capturing the scene, for whatever reason.
At least you get the point lol.
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