Importnat note: if you DONT have yae's c6 or raidens c2 nahdias c2 will massively increase both of their dmg, the "low" dmg gain is only due to defence shred already being present, so if oyu cant afford a c6 yae nahidas c2 will still make her much much stronger
This also applies to basically any quicken/aggravate character. My Cyno’s slaps are over 20k now and I don’t even have the best artifacts (no good electro goblet). Edit: To note, this without the swirl debuff. I was using Venti in a different team and only have one good VV set.
It's 17.6% dps increase without raiden c2 or yae c6, and 9.3% dps increase with it. Keep in mind, even a 10% TEAM dps increase is a cracked constellation
tbh this has been a trend for most 5* where their C1/C2 are the biggest QoL changes e.g Hu tao's C1, Eula's C2, Shenhe's C1, Yelan's C2 and Raiden's C2 (there's WAY more). This is moreso to incentivizes the low spenders to spend a bit more for the big damage boost
@@SilencePandaa I agree but then there are guys who're lucky af, I got C2 Nahida in 50 pulls. 1st one was a guaranteed soft pity, 2nd one was 8 pulls later and the last one was 28 pulls later. Each one them was a 10 pull so it was 50 pulls in total. I could've saved a bit more pulls had I gone one by one but tbh had no expectations on getting any constellations and was gonna go ahead and build pity for Wanderer
@@Salty_Gacha_Gamer honestly probably should have gotten the wanderer/Dehya after watching this it kinda seems like constellations for Nahida aren’t big enough to really matter. That’s what I’m doing anyways, got Mona 2 pulls after getting nahida and I’ve been battling my addiction demon ever since.
It is worth noting that her c4 does free up some build options because it allows for you to build a little less em in favor of other useful stats, so you could have like 800-900 on your nahida and with your c4 and other buffs you can still hit the golden number of 1000 em
i would bump that down to maybe 600ish em needed, depending on team build as nahida burst provides 150-250 em depending as well when on field and some team mate also give em
tbh depending on the build you don't even need like 800 Raw em. My nahida's at 562 raw em and gets to 1k with her usual buffs, C4 would only lower that more
Might of been because most would assume c1 meant either 0 or plus 2. Still a stopping point that leaves stuff to be desired(c2), but a nice bonus that can actually be used.
@@johnd7760 Honestly ? Its not that great lol. If u dont have any electro party members in the team its good for the tkp interval reduction but otherwise its not. Nahida has so much dmg% to the point that the extra dmg% u get from the c1 effect with no pyro active is considerably small and the hydro portion is mostly irrelevant since nahida already has very good burst uptime even at c0. Plus, half of the time u use nahida u do have an electro and a hydro on the team so the c1 is even more irrelevant. Its pretty much like raidens c1 tbh. Not great but nice to have.
@@deltaspecies1697 Do u have it? cause i do and the difference isn't that small. Indeed, Raidens is more of a QoL upgrade like Nahida's, but for hers, in case u run no burgeon, having no pyro means no pyro buff, where c1 solves that problem. And if run one like bennett just for heal and buff, u get the max buff. I didnt say she wasn't already great, just that this upgrade is not something that trivial as some make it seem. I agree for the burst uptime buff thats not rl needed, though.
That C1 fact which gives a type count even if you have no one with that element in the team, makes a whole difference. Wasn't really aware of it, and makes me want to take guaranteed pull to her C1.
It’s pretty great for nilou teams - especially quick swap ones or any where nahida is on field driving - in either of these teams she has max hydro boost but is on field to burst off of cool down anyway so it’s wasted unless you build her with less energy recharge in mind knowing you have longer before you need to reactivate it.
Extra notes for those that just looked at the chart: - The chart only really addresses DPS and specifically for Tri Karma and Blooms - c1 isn't the largest of boosts, but it does allow for greater team flexibility while allowing you to use all the buffs from Nahida's burst. As mentioned by IWTL himself, this DPS number is at the lowest, only seeming to cover the 1 Pyro worth of buff, not even taking into account the fact that the 1 Electro increases how often it hits (DPS increase) and the 1 Hydro makes rotations easier for a QoL upgrade. - c4 while isn't the biggest buff to DPS (with one enemy), it seemingly was ignored that it allows you to have an easier time on your artifact build. Nahida in the video is using a party member to get her passive's full EM buff, but this only affects Nahida if she's on field to get the EM. This is important if you're paying attention to her EM to Crit Stat conversion passive. Of which she needs 1k EM for that too. So while yes, which ever party member has the highest EM (up to 1k) is used for determining Nahida's EM Buff, she herself needs 1k on herself for her Tri Karma EM to Crit Stat conversion buff. Okay, I rambled here, but this essentially means you need only 900 EM instead if hitting one enemy, instead of 1k for the max buffs of both effects. - c6 had it mentioned in the video, but the chart itself shows it as 0% because it doesn't affect her Tri Karma or blooms, but it is a significant DPS burst of damage, doubling her own damage for 6 hits after using her burst. This is suuuper nice. Only down side being it has standard ICD, as it is her AA's, not her E or Tri Karma's that have no ICD. Honestly, the only bad con is her c5. Which should only be gotten if you're aiming for c6. c5 is a quality of life upgrade (not everyone can roll amazing artifacts) while still giving some more DPS (more if there are multiple enemies of course). c1 is nice, but c2 is the goal for anyone that's getting constellations. c4 can be ignored, but is a nice QoL upgrade for allowing more flexibility in your artifact builds for those that get it.
I mean I want C1 more than most of those. I want to use her in a burning comp but I need her electro interval increase and electro doesn't go well in Burning. Same with Burgeon. Strangely(?) Diluc Burgeon is actually really good since he still vapes and does similar damage. He'll also do good Burning damage to targets he's not actively hitting, (like his Burst igniting far away foes).
I've never gone for constelations on a limited banner before outisde of reruns for c1 huta and c1 eula. I spent 62k primos i had saved to get Nahida c2 and i don't regret it one bit. Considering there is no end game content in Genshin I basically just throw wishes at units i REALLY like now, and i heckin love Nahida.
I feel like Nahida is probably the strongest C6 R5 in the game, and a lotta ppl kinda look past her power. The fact that her karmic oblivion ticks hit everyone marked with the skill is insane, and the fact you're gaining an incredible buffer and support along the way! i definitely don't regret mine :3
@@jhndoa5590nope, c6 furina destroys everything with 1-4 normal attacks. Her kits has their own heal, can walk on water, you can literally stand and watch the minions destroy enemies unlike yelan. So no, furina’s c6 is the most exceptional at the moment.
He’s not just talking a about DPS since you’re also getting a support with crazy damage, Yelan C6 you want her to be on field for her basics and Neuvillete wants all the field time, C6 Yelan doesn’t massively increase her support ability it makes her a main DPS and Neuvillete has basically no support capabilities
c1 is phenomenal, yeap! i was literally struggling to make tig catch up with her dmge output (she has her bis, tig doesn't) 😂. And my yae c0 suddenly becoming c2 with that enormous em buff, shes rl awsome. Sad no real challenging content to enjoy her more
@@hardy83 Due to her A4 already giving her loads of DMG %, A1 doesn't increase her E damage by a very large margin, it's mainly great in teambuilding, especially in Nilou and Cyno teams
I don't think it makes her more flexible. She's just as flexible, but better on all the teams she's part of. No team exist just because of C1. And about the pyro bonus DMG, if you have no pyro on your team, it's only 14.8%, that's like 1/4th of a goblet. On a character that already has a lot of bonus DMG, it turns out to be a lot less overal buff than it's intuitive.
Thanks a lot man. I was just finding this video to remove all my doubts about Nahida's cons. And also I was thinking of making her c2 to get better value out of my raiden but now I changed my mind after seeing this.
I love this, I got Nahida mostly for my bountiful core Nilou team, but also because she's an Archon and the Archon's are progressively getting more powerful... can't wait for the last 3 Archons that are actually straight up DPS in most cases
Could we get a showcase on Nahida as an off fielder? like, what her best builds/teams are as an off field subdps? I think a lot of people use her that way.
It's pretty simple, just put on gilded dreams with full EM, or a crit circlet if you have terrible rolls. If you aren't using deepwood on another character, then use deep wood on nahida
I personally think Nahida might be the best character alongside Kazuha (especially at C0)! Just like Kazuha, she is a very versatile and flexible unit who fits many teams. Also unlike many other 5 star characters we got she does not require any constellations to feel complete!
@@noxinabox3506 Raiden at C0 is more a support than a dps though, I don't think she's exceptional at C0 like Kazuha, Nahida, and Zhongli. Also Ganyu is pretty baller at C0, only really getting anything out of C1 and C6
I got c1 on a random pull today and I got so dissapointed at first cuz my primos are always so limited. But after watching this vid I feel like thats not the worst pull for me cuz I really want to play Nahida and her c1 really gives her more flexibility as well as upgrade of her ult. Thanks for clearing things out for her c1 man!
I was a little worried that you wouldn't compare having no pyro, hydro or electro on c0 vs c1 because that's really what makes this constellation extremely good (And I've seen other people forgetting about that). Probably even one of the best c1 in the game. Having one pyro for example gives 25% bonus damage on talent lvl 9 and two gives ~ 38%, so the biggest gain is having none vs having one on the team. Same goes obviously for the other elements. As for her c2, the 30% def shred is in my opinion also more valuable than for example Raiden's c2, because Nahida's c2 is universal and the whole team benefits from it no matter the source of damage (similar to Lisa and Razor iirc), whereas only Raiden alone benefits from her c2 though the value itself is higher. Also, even though both constellations combined (same for Yae c6) aren't additive, the damage increase is still decent I'd say, especially if you consider it as a side benefit from having the whole team damage increased. She might be the first character whose first two constellations are worth as much :D
Her C1 is around 8% increase, he should've used an example without a pyro character since Hyperbloom, Bloom and Quicken do not use a Pyro character if her C3 is 4 stars, then her C4 is 4 stars too. That extra EM comes very juicy specially if you don't have her weapon OR you are playing Deepwood. If you use her on-field 40% of her Personal DMG is her Spreads with N4 combo making it a really good constellation. If you have her C6 her C4 becomes even better.
I started in 3.0 and as a F2P I'm so happy I saved my guarantee and primos for her, I got lucky and pulled her weapon as well, my first limited weapon. I'm definitely gonna try to pull for more of her constellation when she comes back, cause now I'm broke asf lol.
thank you for the video.. i got C2 nahida and R2 Floating Dream, i was thought to save some primos to build raiden C0 to C2 to max the damage, but after i saw this video, i know i can save it for others. (For example, my raiden can still at C0 but i can aim her engulfing lighning R1 only) This save me a lot of primogems , thank you
Lol just read her talents, or watch a video on someone reading her talents and skills, I kinda had the same problem, but what I learned is she might be the most versatile character cause it really doesn’t matter how you build her as long as it’s not attack% nahida.
I got c2 nahida and her r1 weapon in about 220 pulls and I'm very happy with it. It's not a massive gain for the team I like (Including Raiden) but I also wanted to use her in other comps eventually so things worked out lol.
Interesting, but it will not make me spend money to roll for anything more, than c0. Sadly had to skip Nilou to have 100% getting Nahida (even if I lose 50/50), but since their both banners were crap not much lost and I hope Nilou rerun banner will feature 4stars I need.
Thank you for your series of analysis and I am glad Nahida works well with 4 & 5 star characters. The variety of team choices bring gaming experience to another level, a big "win" here 😊
Well, you can use similar reasoning to come to the conclusion that she's one of few characters worth rolling to make even better. I don't think F2P players should ever roll above C1 unless they aim to play the same main team forever, but as soon as you put money in, priorities change a lot
Was absolutely floored when I won three 50/50's in a row and actually got a C2 Nahida. Then I did one ten pull out of sheer elation and got a C2 Qiqi, so now I have my next character guaranteed.
@@lostblueboy You can only play 4 characters at once (8 in the abyss) so at some point reinforcing your box by pulling for cons on your strong characters is better than building new ones...
@@LadyHermes difference between meta players and fun players. I rather have 3 different units to play with then one cracked one. Btw..nahida at c0 and c6 can both clear spiral abyss and even 36 star it so it doesn't matter now does it. And not talking out of my ass, I did it with c0 nahida hyperbloom team of only her and 4 stars
I saved to C2 this character if they made it really good, because I had a feeling they'd make her the mother of all supports. Now she's future proof! I can comfortably NEVER worry about metas or suffering difficult content again, I will just simply ride out genshin's life cycle with my little blade of grass
this was my exact thinking lol. saved for c2 b/c it applies to every unit in every team shes in, not just a personal buff. Long Live my lil Hippie Archon!
Got c1 in same pull and id say its alr enough to be future proof and universal. C2 just makes her even more, running her with random chars and still be great.
The fact her c1 works even when 0 stacks of certain elements is just amazing, tbh if her c2 wasnt already really good too I wouldnt complain if her c1 was her c2 lol
Personally I would just pull for a new character, despite the DPS increase, since there's no need for that much dmg in this game anyway. And given the 4* on this banner (I have c6 for all of them), I wouldn't want to touch it if it wasn't for Nahida. Of course, this is still a great video for those who are thinking about getting her constellations - as long as you are spending your money wisely there's nothing wrong with that.
@@alexiluffy216 oh yeah he’s practically the new Anemo archon in my eyes, like venti fell of the chain with kazuha power creeping the absolute Jeebers out of him, so with his flight E skill he’s gonna dodge a majority of petty damage, and just bomb the enemies like a Xiao/Ayato hybrid but for E skills.
@@davepumphernickel9568 but you don’t have her at c2 you have her at c0, so stfu until you make her c2 lol. People speak on something they know nothing about.
Lol when I first read her C1 I thought it was gonna add toward TEAM ELEMENTAL RESONANCE count and thinking "damn this is broken as hell". Thanks for clearing that up for me
I think unless people have money/wishes to burn, i would rather put that towards new characters. Even though it is a massive DPS increase from c0 to c6, in actual gameplay you probably are shaving at most 20 secs from a hard abyss run since she is already so strong at c0. But each to their own, i personally stopped at c2 which i got extremely lucky with.
Would like to think that the damage Yae and Raiden do off-field would offset the lost damage from the defence shred. But at least if you use Kuki it fills up the much needed healer slot as well as providing the bonus shred
Thanks for that guide i did not understand C1 copletly that helped Got Nahida first run and Her weapon R2. Now i want Her on C2 and let her there. I find C1 extreme nice already if i would lose 2 times my 50/50. I have wishes for 3-4 5 stars means even with only c1 nahida i would be happy. Can´t w8 for the rerun next week.
After playing since launch, the sheer amount of my unluckyness is finally over with nahidas blessing lol... Won 7 straight 5050s, 5 in character and 2 with weapon. Won yelan, kazuha, and nahida to c2 EZ CLAP
For me id replace yelan with Klee (23% Defense reduct.) And Place yelans a tier below the best grouped with Itto (Basically infinite burst) Ayaka (Extra slashes on burst) etc.
@@Badkhela C2 Ayaka is Really strong but id have to say c2 Nahida is way too valuable and much more of a game changer. Double bloom and burn damage or defense reduction for Quicken/Aggravte all in one is insane!
While I love that new fireworks feeling with dendro and the many damage numbers, it remains a pain in my lower part that why life does not react with soil?! No dendro geo reaction is just wrong in so many ways..
Really glad he brought up Nahida's C1 applying without any Characters supporting her Burst. I got her C1 early so I really wanted to know if that's how it functioned, but no one seemed to be mentioning it. (I'm guessing a lot of people just don't realize that's how it works yet)
Same here, I initially thought that if would increase by 1 for the current team’s existing elements. I didn’t know that the absent ones also get a+1. I tried looking up info on it but only found it here.
i started genshin when nahida’s first banner came out and i lost the 50/50 to the dendro fox boy (we don’t talk about that) soo nahida was my first 5 star and she’s level 90 with a level 90 weapon and triple crowned. i love her so much omg. she’s actually so cracked. i’m thinking of pulling for c2.. but i’m not sure if i’ll be able to make it there. wish me luck 😭
c6 is a bit overkill cause u want to use her with other char in fun team comps, c6 she solo everything, and everything doesnt have much HP in genshin so its not satisfiying after some time playing.
I agree. I think unless people have money/wishes to burn, i would rather put that towards new characters. Even though it is a massive DPS increase from c0 to c6, in actual gameplay you probably are shaving at most 20 secs from a hard abyss run since she is already so strong at c0. But each to their own, i personally stopped at c2 which i got extremely lucky with.
@@tomislavkvasina5854 yes I agree. That’s why I dont recommend people go higher esp if they are F2P. Especially since some of her strongest teams don’t require her to be on-field for a long time. She is easily one of the easiest characters to build artifact wise.
I completely forgot her c2 second effect with her lowering the defences... And I do have her c2 miraculously 😅 I also got an early raiden so should I go full em on her and kokomi as well?
Can you do this rating constellation vid for every new character? And can you also rate the constellation worth? Is it worth spending more for the constellation?
I'm a little confused why you didn't show the total crit values and EM she was getting in the intro or C0 portions, but I THINK I got it from your artifacts and passives for anyone interested (if I didn't mess anything up): EM: 1,027 -> 627 + 250 from A1 passive when on field + 150 from Gilded Dreams 4-piece bonus Crit Damage: 154.5 Crit Rate: 83 -> 59 + 24.0 from her A4 passive No idea on Attack, that's too much work lol
C6R5 on field can be Raiden/Yae C0 ok + Yelan C0 ok + Free slot. (I use Barbara with R5 Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers) Yelan can be replace with Xingqiu. C6R5 Nahida is super flexible, I test her too many times in abyss 12-3 but Dendro + Pyro team still gave me a meh.
@@rr_r_rb good suggestions. It's pretty similar what I am running but instead of Barbara I use zhong li since I don't like dodging xD I will pull Yalen when she comes
ive been saving since Yelan and won't pull until Dehya so I've skipped every banner, including Nahidas. By the time I actually pull id have been saving for around 9 months and tbh its surprisingly easy to not care to pull, for me at least.
@@johnd7760 thank you! But I was meaning more so for all the new characters that have come out since the last video he made like that so I edited my comment to be more clear
@@Quasar_MB OOOHH my bad, now makes sense. But there are already infographics if u search, that help u out for the talent priority. When in dought, check which has/gets higher increase.
Got (kinda) lucky on Nahida. Spent $260 on her since I lost my 50/50 and went to 80 pity both times, but was compensated with a double Nahida in one 10 pull so… I guess I got my money’s worth?
A lot of copers downplaying the value of her c2. We get it. You wasted your pulls for Cyno and his weapon, and he still doesn't outperform your Keqing, so now you can't get c2 Nahida; hence you cope. The fact that the Dendro archon was coming in 3.2 was leaked forever ago, you had the time to save and you knew MHY won't allow archons to be bad or their cons after Raiden sales. Its fine to be a "big boy" with c0 magic guide or prefer more characters over cons. But don't be disingenuous about the reality of Nahida's cons just because of you couldn't save for it and you have to cope with your regret.
So I lost 50/50 for nilou, lost 50/50 to c1 nahida, then lost 50/50 again but after hitting soft pity, got nahida back to back in a ten pull. so basically nilou, nahida x3, diluc, and keqing x2. Nahida's now at c3 which thankfully looks pretty good but man, idk how to feel. that was 60k primos down the drain and 2 years of religiously logging in and doing commissions.
Importnat note: if you DONT have yae's c6 or raidens c2 nahdias c2 will massively increase both of their dmg, the "low" dmg gain is only due to defence shred already being present, so if oyu cant afford a c6 yae nahidas c2 will still make her much much stronger
This also applies to basically any quicken/aggravate character. My Cyno’s slaps are over 20k now and I don’t even have the best artifacts (no good electro goblet).
Edit: To note, this without the swirl debuff. I was using Venti in a different team and only have one good VV set.
@@mmmk5385 that is explained in the video?
I have both yae c6 and nahida c6
TBH i don't notice a huge difference in my Yae's damage with nahida c2. I tested it... maybe 10%ish.
It's 17.6% dps increase without raiden c2 or yae c6, and 9.3% dps increase with it.
Keep in mind, even a 10% TEAM dps increase is a cracked constellation
I love how solid each of her early constellations are and also the fact that she doesn't need them at all to be incredible.
tbh this has been a trend for most 5* where their C1/C2 are the biggest QoL changes e.g Hu tao's C1, Eula's C2, Shenhe's C1, Yelan's C2 and Raiden's C2 (there's WAY more). This is moreso to incentivizes the low spenders to spend a bit more for the big damage boost
Calculated move by hoyoverse. People be like eh C2 is not that far off
Proceed to throw more money lol
@@SilencePandaa I agree but then there are guys who're lucky af, I got C2 Nahida in 50 pulls. 1st one was a guaranteed soft pity, 2nd one was 8 pulls later and the last one was 28 pulls later. Each one them was a 10 pull so it was 50 pulls in total. I could've saved a bit more pulls had I gone one by one but tbh had no expectations on getting any constellations and was gonna go ahead and build pity for Wanderer
@@Salty_Gacha_Gamer honestly probably should have gotten the wanderer/Dehya after watching this it kinda seems like constellations for Nahida aren’t big enough to really matter. That’s what I’m doing anyways, got Mona 2 pulls after getting nahida and I’ve been battling my addiction demon ever since.
@@Salty_Gacha_Gamer Hey, I’m happy for you. Congrats on your C2 Nahida!!
It is worth noting that her c4 does free up some build options because it allows for you to build a little less em in favor of other useful stats, so you could have like 800-900 on your nahida and with your c4 and other buffs you can still hit the golden number of 1000 em
i would bump that down to maybe 600ish em needed, depending on team build as nahida burst provides 150-250 em depending as well when on field and some team mate also give em
tbh depending on the build you don't even need like 800 Raw em. My nahida's at 562 raw em and gets to 1k with her usual buffs, C4 would only lower that more
@@ec2552 on field or off field?
@@orakatokansek on field, em reqs obviously get higher off field but with even normal f2p buffs like me you don't need to get that much em
Keep in mind if you play nahida on field you only need 800 em for max passive buffs
Someone actually giving props to C1 finally
Might of been because most would assume c1 meant either 0 or plus 2.
Still a stopping point that leaves stuff to be desired(c2), but a nice bonus that can actually be used.
You must be watching trash CC if they weren't considering c1 as a great upgrade lol
@@Tashunu Might have*
@@johnd7760 Honestly ? Its not that great lol. If u dont have any electro party members in the team its good for the tkp interval reduction but otherwise its not. Nahida has so much dmg% to the point that the extra dmg% u get from the c1 effect with no pyro active is considerably small and the hydro portion is mostly irrelevant since nahida already has very good burst uptime even at c0. Plus, half of the time u use nahida u do have an electro and a hydro on the team so the c1 is even more irrelevant. Its pretty much like raidens c1 tbh. Not great but nice to have.
@@deltaspecies1697 Do u have it? cause i do and the difference isn't that small. Indeed, Raidens is more of a QoL upgrade like Nahida's, but for hers, in case u run no burgeon, having no pyro means no pyro buff, where c1 solves that problem. And if run one like bennett just for heal and buff, u get the max buff. I didnt say she wasn't already great, just that this upgrade is not something that trivial as some make it seem.
I agree for the burst uptime buff thats not rl needed, though.
That C1 fact which gives a type count even if you have no one with that element in the team, makes a whole difference. Wasn't really aware of it, and makes me want to take guaranteed pull to her C1.
is it really worth an entire future 5 star character though
It’s pretty great for nilou teams - especially quick swap ones or any where nahida is on field driving - in either of these teams she has max hydro boost but is on field to burst off of cool down anyway so it’s wasted unless you build her with less energy recharge in mind knowing you have longer before you need to reactivate it.
Extra notes for those that just looked at the chart:
- The chart only really addresses DPS and specifically for Tri Karma and Blooms
- c1 isn't the largest of boosts, but it does allow for greater team flexibility while allowing you to use all the buffs from Nahida's burst. As mentioned by IWTL himself, this DPS number is at the lowest, only seeming to cover the 1 Pyro worth of buff, not even taking into account the fact that the 1 Electro increases how often it hits (DPS increase) and the 1 Hydro makes rotations easier for a QoL upgrade.
- c4 while isn't the biggest buff to DPS (with one enemy), it seemingly was ignored that it allows you to have an easier time on your artifact build. Nahida in the video is using a party member to get her passive's full EM buff, but this only affects Nahida if she's on field to get the EM. This is important if you're paying attention to her EM to Crit Stat conversion passive. Of which she needs 1k EM for that too. So while yes, which ever party member has the highest EM (up to 1k) is used for determining Nahida's EM Buff, she herself needs 1k on herself for her Tri Karma EM to Crit Stat conversion buff. Okay, I rambled here, but this essentially means you need only 900 EM instead if hitting one enemy, instead of 1k for the max buffs of both effects.
- c6 had it mentioned in the video, but the chart itself shows it as 0% because it doesn't affect her Tri Karma or blooms, but it is a significant DPS burst of damage, doubling her own damage for 6 hits after using her burst. This is suuuper nice. Only down side being it has standard ICD, as it is her AA's, not her E or Tri Karma's that have no ICD.
Honestly, the only bad con is her c5. Which should only be gotten if you're aiming for c6.
c5 is a quality of life upgrade (not everyone can roll amazing artifacts) while still giving some more DPS (more if there are multiple enemies of course).
c1 is nice, but c2 is the goal for anyone that's getting constellations.
c4 can be ignored, but is a nice QoL upgrade for allowing more flexibility in your artifact builds for those that get it.
I mean I want C1 more than most of those. I want to use her in a burning comp but I need her electro interval increase and electro doesn't go well in Burning. Same with Burgeon. Strangely(?) Diluc Burgeon is actually really good since he still vapes and does similar damage. He'll also do good Burning damage to targets he's not actively hitting, (like his Burst igniting far away foes).
I'm on C2... and don't know if i should go any further.
@@Mr.BednaR That is always something you need to decide for yourself (as it is your primos (freely earned or bought).
Thanks!! I was aiming for her C2 and got very lucky, accidentally getting her C4 lol!
I've never gone for constelations on a limited banner before outisde of reruns for c1 huta and c1 eula. I spent 62k primos i had saved to get Nahida c2 and i don't regret it one bit. Considering there is no end game content in Genshin I basically just throw wishes at units i REALLY like now, and i heckin love Nahida.
I feel like Nahida is probably the strongest C6 R5 in the game, and a lotta ppl kinda look past her power. The fact that her karmic oblivion ticks hit everyone marked with the skill is insane, and the fact you're gaining an incredible buffer and support along the way! i definitely don't regret mine :3
I beg to differ but Yelan is the strongest c6 r5 character.
@@jhndoa5590nope, c6 furina destroys everything with 1-4 normal attacks. Her kits has their own heal, can walk on water, you can literally stand and watch the minions destroy enemies unlike yelan. So no, furina’s c6 is the most exceptional at the moment.
Neuvilette laughing in the Corner while Soloing Everything 😂
He’s not just talking a about DPS since you’re also getting a support with crazy damage, Yelan C6 you want her to be on field for her basics and Neuvillete wants all the field time, C6 Yelan doesn’t massively increase her support ability it makes her a main DPS and Neuvillete has basically no support capabilities
So I would definitely say C6 Nahida and Furina are by far the strongest characters in the game all things considered
I had enough savings for her C1 and honestly I love it!
It makes her WAY more flexible in team building!
c1 is phenomenal, yeap! i was literally struggling to make tig catch up with her dmge output (she has her bis, tig doesn't) 😂.
And my yae c0 suddenly becoming c2 with that enormous em buff, shes rl awsome. Sad no real challenging content to enjoy her more
Opopnnopo lol
I was gonna say. Isn't C1 a massive increase? If it gives you a fire element count when you don't have a fire element on your team?
@@hardy83 Due to her A4 already giving her loads of DMG %, A1 doesn't increase her E damage by a very large margin, it's mainly great in teambuilding, especially in Nilou and Cyno teams
I don't think it makes her more flexible. She's just as flexible, but better on all the teams she's part of. No team exist just because of C1.
And about the pyro bonus DMG, if you have no pyro on your team, it's only 14.8%, that's like 1/4th of a goblet. On a character that already has a lot of bonus DMG, it turns out to be a lot less overal buff than it's intuitive.
Thanks a lot man. I was just finding this video to remove all my doubts about Nahida's cons. And also I was thinking of making her c2 to get better value out of my raiden but now I changed my mind after seeing this.
For the current banner constellations aren't worth it but for future consideration I appreciate this
1000% agree - if layla had been on the banner though, i'd definitely go for at least c1 nahida
Yes, that's so true! I got her and a C5 Bennett, and not looking forward to future Bennett banner that has a 5 star character I want.
I love this, I got Nahida mostly for my bountiful core Nilou team, but also because she's an Archon and the Archon's are progressively getting more powerful... can't wait for the last 3 Archons that are actually straight up DPS in most cases
Could we get a showcase on Nahida as an off fielder? like, what her best builds/teams are as an off field subdps? I think a lot of people use her that way.
I would say the best off-field build would be 4 pc deep wood with all em. Any em weapon should do fine
Theres a bunch of videos of her off field barely any videos as an on fielder...
Literally every team ud use dendro mc as off field and every team that lacks main dps/driver. i dont think its that hard to figure it out.
It's pretty simple, just put on gilded dreams with full EM, or a crit circlet if you have terrible rolls. If you aren't using deepwood on another character, then use deep wood on nahida
Lol no luck in GD/DW domain so I just slapped sucrose's em artifacts, so my nahida got 15% anemo dmg bonus
I personally think Nahida might be the best character alongside Kazuha (especially at C0)!
Just like Kazuha, she is a very versatile and flexible unit who fits many teams.
Also unlike many other 5 star characters we got she does not require any constellations to feel complete!
she lowkey better than kazuha but😋🤭
Put Raiden on that list. She is one of the best supports in the game, along with being a solid DPS (and one of the best DPS if you have her C2).
@@junyaiwase well sucrose is alr better in most scenarios so there's that 😊
@@noxinabox3506 Raiden at C0 is more a support than a dps though, I don't think she's exceptional at C0 like Kazuha, Nahida, and Zhongli.
Also Ganyu is pretty baller at C0, only really getting anything out of C1 and C6
@@johnd7760 that too
I was waiting for a video about her constellations, thanks for doing it
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I got c1 on a random pull today and I got so dissapointed at first cuz my primos are always so limited. But after watching this vid I feel like thats not the worst pull for me cuz I really want to play Nahida and her c1 really gives her more flexibility as well as upgrade of her ult. Thanks for clearing things out for her c1 man!
I was a little worried that you wouldn't compare having no pyro, hydro or electro on c0 vs c1 because that's really what makes this constellation extremely good (And I've seen other people forgetting about that). Probably even one of the best c1 in the game. Having one pyro for example gives 25% bonus damage on talent lvl 9 and two gives ~ 38%, so the biggest gain is having none vs having one on the team. Same goes obviously for the other elements.
As for her c2, the 30% def shred is in my opinion also more valuable than for example Raiden's c2, because Nahida's c2 is universal and the whole team benefits from it no matter the source of damage (similar to Lisa and Razor iirc), whereas only Raiden alone benefits from her c2 though the value itself is higher. Also, even though both constellations combined (same for Yae c6) aren't additive, the damage increase is still decent I'd say, especially if you consider it as a side benefit from having the whole team damage increased.
She might be the first character whose first two constellations are worth as much :D
Her C1 is around 8% increase, he should've used an example without a pyro character since Hyperbloom, Bloom and Quicken do not use a Pyro character
if her C3 is 4 stars, then her C4 is 4 stars too. That extra EM comes very juicy specially if you don't have her weapon OR you are playing Deepwood. If you use her on-field 40% of her Personal DMG is her Spreads with N4 combo making it a really good constellation. If you have her C6 her C4 becomes even better.
I started in 3.0 and as a F2P I'm so happy I saved my guarantee and primos for her, I got lucky and pulled her weapon as well, my first limited weapon. I'm definitely gonna try to pull for more of her constellation when she comes back, cause now I'm broke asf lol.
2:33 .. That is what I want to know exactly. Thank you SO MUCH
Love the video, thank you for this!
Always love your breakdowns. Thanks for this!
thank you for the video..
i got C2 nahida and R2 Floating Dream, i was thought to save some primos to build raiden C0 to C2 to max the damage, but after i saw this video, i know i can save it for others. (For example, my raiden can still at C0 but i can aim her engulfing lighning R1 only)
This save me a lot of primogems , thank you
05:01 minor error, nahida c2's def reduce not only effect electro dmg, so physical dps that use superconduct can actually benefit by it.
Hey great work as always! I'm curious where you would rank Nahida's C6 on your most recent C6 ranking video.
C4 i think is a bit underrated! it removes the need to build AS much EM on her freeing you up to focus on crit or ER more. i give it 3-1/2 stars
Was looking forward to this constellation review. Thanks for the great content!
I always appreciate your honest ratings on constellations. Ty
i feel like its gonna take me alot of time and effort to completely learn and understand this character
yepp
Lol just read her talents, or watch a video on someone reading her talents and skills, I kinda had the same problem, but what I learned is she might be the most versatile character cause it really doesn’t matter how you build her as long as it’s not attack% nahida.
I got c2 nahida and her r1 weapon in about 220 pulls and I'm very happy with it. It's not a massive gain for the team I like (Including Raiden) but I also wanted to use her in other comps eventually so things worked out lol.
Interesting, but it will not make me spend money to roll for anything more, than c0. Sadly had to skip Nilou to have 100% getting Nahida (even if I lose 50/50), but since their both banners were crap not much lost and I hope Nilou rerun banner will feature 4stars I need.
All that power, but still you get anxiety from killing bosses too quickly...
😂😂😂
Great content! Thank for you the comparison.
My boy sound tired. I love your content fam. Don't get burned out
Amazing work as always ❤
Thank you for your series of analysis and I am glad Nahida works well with 4 & 5 star characters. The variety of team choices bring gaming experience to another level, a big "win" here 😊
TBH, Nahida is so strong that there is a 0% necessity to roll even for c1
Yeah, it's not like we are ever getting harder content to need more than her at C0 🥲
Well, you can use similar reasoning to come to the conclusion that she's one of few characters worth rolling to make even better. I don't think F2P players should ever roll above C1 unless they aim to play the same main team forever, but as soon as you put money in, priorities change a lot
@@Erideah c1 hutao is a must , if u plan for her ( i am f2p , i habe c1)
@@nero9175 Yeah, Hutao is the only character I ever deliberately rolled C1 for as F2P (I once rolled 2 Ganyus in the same 10x)
@@diogoschneider2479 yup thanks to Mihoyo promising no end game content to reduce stress levels of white knight anime players :)
Was absolutely floored when I won three 50/50's in a row and actually got a C2 Nahida. Then I did one ten pull out of sheer elation and got a C2 Qiqi, so now I have my next character guaranteed.
U could have gotten 2 other characters other than nahida andddd had a guaranteed for a third one though but congrats dude
@@lostblueboy Bruh. I am pretty sure he knows that. He wasn't born yesterday, was he? 🤦♂️
@@lostblueboy You can only play 4 characters at once (8 in the abyss) so at some point reinforcing your box by pulling for cons on your strong characters is better than building new ones...
@@LadyHermes difference between meta players and fun players. I rather have 3 different units to play with then one cracked one. Btw..nahida at c0 and c6 can both clear spiral abyss and even 36 star it so it doesn't matter now does it. And not talking out of my ass, I did it with c0 nahida hyperbloom team of only her and 4 stars
@@lostblueboy dude chill... It's just a game. If he has the expandable income to spend then let him have his fun. There's no need to gatekeep
Ngl this is a really good constellation review compared to others you should do it for every future character even 4 stars as well
I always look forward to these, now if only you could do 4☆ as well... Candace Mains request
I saved to C2 this character if they made it really good, because I had a feeling they'd make her the mother of all supports. Now she's future proof! I can comfortably NEVER worry about metas or suffering difficult content again, I will just simply ride out genshin's life cycle with my little blade of grass
this was my exact thinking lol. saved for c2 b/c it applies to every unit in every team shes in, not just a personal buff. Long Live my lil Hippie Archon!
Got c1 in same pull and id say its alr enough to be future proof and universal. C2 just makes her even more, running her with random chars and still be great.
The fact her c1 works even when 0 stacks of certain elements is just amazing, tbh if her c2 wasnt already really good too I wouldnt complain if her c1 was her c2 lol
HERE WE GOOO ! PERFECT, THX!
heya! thanks for uploading, your videos are always so informative
Personally I would just pull for a new character, despite the DPS increase, since there's no need for that much dmg in this game anyway. And given the 4* on this banner (I have c6 for all of them), I wouldn't want to touch it if it wasn't for Nahida. Of course, this is still a great video for those who are thinking about getting her constellations - as long as you are spending your money wisely there's nothing wrong with that.
As someone with c2 nahida, they both are huge and big helpers.
As a C0 with the ability to get C2 they do not matter that much. Much rather get Xinluc-Mk2 or Fallout 4’s the Wanderer.
@@davepumphernickel9568 man i really hope Wanderer will be OP.. he looks hella fun to play
@@alexiluffy216 oh yeah he’s practically the new Anemo archon in my eyes, like venti fell of the chain with kazuha power creeping the absolute Jeebers out of him, so with his flight E skill he’s gonna dodge a majority of petty damage, and just bomb the enemies like a Xiao/Ayato hybrid but for E skills.
@@davepumphernickel9568 i've got 51k primos currently waiting for him let's fking goooo,
@@davepumphernickel9568 but you don’t have her at c2 you have her at c0, so stfu until you make her c2 lol. People speak on something they know nothing about.
Your videos butter my biscuits thank you
Finally!! Have been refreshing for 3 days for any new content 😭😭
Lol when I first read her C1 I thought it was gonna add toward TEAM ELEMENTAL RESONANCE count and thinking "damn this is broken as hell". Thanks for clearing that up for me
I think unless people have money/wishes to burn, i would rather put that towards new characters. Even though it is a massive DPS increase from c0 to c6, in actual gameplay you probably are shaving at most 20 secs from a hard abyss run since she is already so strong at c0. But each to their own, i personally stopped at c2 which i got extremely lucky with.
Would like to think that the damage Yae and Raiden do off-field would offset the lost damage from the defence shred. But at least if you use Kuki it fills up the much needed healer slot as well as providing the bonus shred
Thanks for that guide i did not understand C1 copletly that helped
Got Nahida first run and Her weapon R2.
Now i want Her on C2 and let her there.
I find C1 extreme nice already if i would lose 2 times my 50/50.
I have wishes for 3-4 5 stars means even with only c1 nahida i would be happy.
Can´t w8 for the rerun next week.
After playing since launch, the sheer amount of my unluckyness is finally over with nahidas blessing lol... Won 7 straight 5050s, 5 in character and 2 with weapon. Won yelan, kazuha, and nahida to c2 EZ CLAP
Just wondering are you f2p?
Did you played diffrently when you were unlucky? Or did you took a break in your unlucky phase?
Always look forward to your constellation reviews. Helps us dolphins save money for meta changing constellations.
best 5 star C2s imo
kazuha - 200EM
nahida - def shred / crit blooms
raiden - 60% def ignore
yelan - more hydro application and damage
For me id replace yelan with Klee (23% Defense reduct.) And Place yelans a tier below the best grouped with Itto (Basically infinite burst) Ayaka (Extra slashes on burst) etc.
@@AzzBlasta ya, ayaka c2 is very good. I think as good as nahida c2 imo.
@@Badkhela C2 Ayaka is Really strong but id have to say c2 Nahida is way too valuable and much more of a game changer. Double bloom and burn damage or defense reduction for Quicken/Aggravte all in one is insane!
I thought I had bad luck (F2P) but I got Nahida on a guaranteed, then got just got her C1 a few days after at like 20 pity!! 50/50 :D
My decision to make Nahida my first C6 looks quite good right now... She is insanely broken at C6.
What a whaaaaale! good stuff, I can't imagine how long will we get a rerun of her... for us the unfortunate F2P community.
INSANE INFOMATION, TY
I'm a f2p so let me tell you, that c2 is a godsend for my team. I can finally reach floor 12 .
thx for all the work
Great analysis as always.
Man's wallet never runs out.
We need Video of Nahida with 1k EM, Crit Build and reaction team comp and maybe what artifact is best on her. Thank you for the video :D
While I love that new fireworks feeling with dendro and the many damage numbers, it remains a pain in my lower part that why life does not react with soil?! No dendro geo reaction is just wrong in so many ways..
So tempted to get refinements 5 of her weapon… I’m not an full blown whale but I probably have to get it! Already have C6 Nahida luckily!
I'm forever using magic guide on Nahida because it's hilarious that a 3 star weapon is that good on an archon
Zhongli -> Black Tassel
So every constellation is good. 😍😍😁 I'm only going for c2 which I'm gonna get in a few days of pulls but that's it.
Really glad he brought up Nahida's C1 applying without any Characters supporting her Burst.
I got her C1 early so I really wanted to know if that's how it functioned, but no one seemed to be mentioning it. (I'm guessing a lot of people just don't realize that's how it works yet)
Same here, I initially thought that if would increase by 1 for the current team’s existing elements. I didn’t know that the absent ones also get a+1. I tried looking up info on it but only found it here.
i started genshin when nahida’s first banner came out and i lost the 50/50 to the dendro fox boy (we don’t talk about that) soo nahida was my first 5 star and she’s level 90 with a level 90 weapon and triple crowned. i love her so much omg. she’s actually so cracked. i’m thinking of pulling for c2.. but i’m not sure if i’ll be able to make it there. wish me luck 😭
Finally a Constellation Video again!
Now this makes me wonder, Is her constellations are more important or is her weapon?
Good comparison to show difference between c0 to C2, which most of us can afford, thank you
c6 is a bit overkill cause u want to use her with other char in fun team comps, c6 she solo everything, and everything doesnt have much HP in genshin so its not satisfiying after some time playing.
I agree. I think unless people have money/wishes to burn, i would rather put that towards new characters. Even though it is a massive DPS increase from c0 to c6, in actual gameplay you probably are shaving at most 20 secs from a hard abyss run since she is already so strong at c0. But each to their own, i personally stopped at c2 which i got extremely lucky with.
@@ThePoorKids but even at c0 one rotation is to kill mostly all things
@@tomislavkvasina5854 yes I agree. That’s why I dont recommend people go higher esp if they are F2P. Especially since some of her strongest teams don’t require her to be on-field for a long time. She is easily one of the easiest characters to build artifact wise.
I completely forgot her c2 second effect with her lowering the defences... And I do have her c2 miraculously 😅
I also got an early raiden so should I go full em on her and kokomi as well?
Can you do this rating constellation vid for every new character? And can you also rate the constellation worth? Is it worth spending more for the constellation?
Thats like asking him to pay $1000+ dollars everytime he make that vid unless its not his account.
I would c2 nahida already if they didnt put such an old 4 stars in the banner. I just get c0 for now and c2 her in upcoming rerun.
ty❤it was cool
I'm a little confused why you didn't show the total crit values and EM she was getting in the intro or C0 portions, but I THINK I got it from your artifacts and passives for anyone interested (if I didn't mess anything up):
EM: 1,027 -> 627 + 250 from A1 passive when on field + 150 from Gilded Dreams 4-piece bonus
Crit Damage: 154.5
Crit Rate: 83 -> 59 + 24.0 from her A4 passive
No idea on Attack, that's too much work lol
congratulation! one more greating video,
now i'm curious, in your top tier constellation 6 where nahida would be.
What is the best C6R5 on field Nahida Team? I want to say maybe Hyperbloom with Yae, Kiku, xq but I need some suggestions please.
C6R5 on field can be Raiden/Yae C0 ok + Yelan C0 ok + Free slot. (I use Barbara with R5 Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers)
Yelan can be replace with Xingqiu.
C6R5 Nahida is super flexible, I test her too many times in abyss 12-3 but Dendro + Pyro team still gave me a meh.
@@rr_r_rb good suggestions. It's pretty similar what I am running but instead of Barbara I use zhong li since I don't like dodging xD I will pull Yalen when she comes
Greater Lord Rukkhadevata sacrificed herself to give me c2 nahida in 70 rolls. This is fate.
I might snatch a con or two on her rerun. For now, I NEED Raiden
amazing!
I was already considering saving until her reruns to get C6R5 but now I’m convinced
Save for a year, that sounds like a fun thing to do
@@johnd7760 I regularly save for 4-6 months, I enjoy it
Same I think I may break the primo savings a bit for raiden c2 but that's as far as I may go
@@ClorxxKage Yeah ill probably get raiden and then keep saving for nahida and Nilou C6R5
ive been saving since Yelan and won't pull until Dehya so I've skipped every banner, including Nahidas. By the time I actually pull id have been saving for around 9 months and tbh its surprisingly easy to not care to pull, for me at least.
What's that floating thing at 2:42
Can we get an updated “best talents to crown” video for all the new characters since the last video?
skill>burst>NA
There u go lol.
@@johnd7760 thank you! But I was meaning more so for all the new characters that have come out since the last video he made like that so I edited my comment to be more clear
@@Quasar_MB OOOHH my bad, now makes sense. But there are already infographics if u search, that help u out for the talent priority.
When in dought, check which has/gets higher increase.
Love u man
yeah she's amazing. maybe i'll get her c2 on rerun.
and i have c2 raiden , but obviously not c6 yae
Why wouldn’t you give gilded to Kuki and deepwood to nahida? That would heavily buff Kuki’s damage while not impacting nahida’s at all.
0:18 what was this rotating her body??? Never saw this before.
When you get her c1 it appears not sure what it does tho
Got (kinda) lucky on Nahida. Spent $260 on her since I lost my 50/50 and went to 80 pity both times, but was compensated with a double Nahida in one 10 pull so… I guess I got my money’s worth?
were you at 0 pity? I'm just shocked $260 didn't get you a c1 even without the luck. This game is expensive 🤣
@@joeyisabsb1 yeah I was at 0 pity, just got Nilou. I wasn’t planning on getting Nahida but I caved.
Spent 29k primos to get C2 nahida and her sig weapon.. Absolutely lucky as i won every 50/50 for her and weap banner :)
A lot of copers downplaying the value of her c2. We get it. You wasted your pulls for Cyno and his weapon, and he still doesn't outperform your Keqing, so now you can't get c2 Nahida; hence you cope. The fact that the Dendro archon was coming in 3.2 was leaked forever ago, you had the time to save and you knew MHY won't allow archons to be bad or their cons after Raiden sales. Its fine to be a "big boy" with c0 magic guide or prefer more characters over cons. But don't be disingenuous about the reality of Nahida's cons just because of you couldn't save for it and you have to cope with your regret.
what is that four leaf clover circling Nahida at 2:40
It's c6 effect that make your normal attack causing massive DMG when you attqck after using burst to enemy that linked by Tri Karma Purification.
can someone remind me what song plays ± 8:23 pls ty
I like the part when he said "two out of five slime rating"
So I lost 50/50 for nilou, lost 50/50 to c1 nahida, then lost 50/50 again but after hitting soft pity, got nahida back to back in a ten pull.
so basically nilou, nahida x3, diluc, and keqing x2. Nahida's now at c3 which thankfully looks pretty good but man, idk how to feel. that was 60k primos down the drain and 2 years of religiously logging in and doing commissions.
What's the song at 9:25