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@@QMS9224 i think its fair. What makes AlHaitam and Tighnari good is also the fact that Nahida exists. This is not a "who is the best character" but a dps showdown, if not Nahida would 100% win
Besides Venti that got Kazuha as competition, all Archons have really strong kits that really sets them a league apart; heck even in Venti’s case he still a really good unit even not being the best at his role.
@@biazacha Not even. Venti is still basically uncontested in the crowd control department. Any floor that doesnt have unccable units is ez win ggz with a Venti. 100% uptime on cc and insane area of of effect. His opness in this role is like the only reason we have unccable mobs to fight
@@seraphywang4638 the issue with venti is that there are more and more enemies that aren't affected by the succ anymore. He's still an amazing unit though.
This is c6 + single target focused though, at c0, tighnari will be a bit slower than alhaitham even in single target, not to mention alhaitham absolutely crushes him in AoE. Nevertheless tighnari is still quite a good character
@@fardareismai4495 To put it simply thats because you can get Tighnari while losing your 50 for Nahida while you can't get Nahida for losing your 50 if a tighnari banner comes out this instant. Wether or not you think it is worth is up to you but for most people he isn't a first choice and is not restricted by a time period.
Honestly, this video is really good at showing how different their playstyles are: 1) tighnari is excellent at single target and his dmg output is frontloaded on a few seconds so his speedrunning times are better, sometimes he might fall short of finishing off the enemy himself or he might struggle at multiple waves, hence why he is a good quickswap unit, you just go to his teammate to finish it. 2) Alhaitham is an excellent on-field dps, he was always a few seconds behind tighnari but its good to keep in mind that alhaitham can continue dishing out the same dmg for around 12s or even more if played correctly and he is good at both single target, AoE and dealing with multiple waves of enemies, plus his easy dendro application makes him viable in quickbloom teams. 3) Nahida, though the slowest, is the winner here. Despite her being considered a support, the ammount of dmg she can provide off-field is excellent. She provides off-field dendro application, good at AoE and single target, her C6 just turns her into a DPS. She buffs EM, so alhaitham and tighnari being on the same team as her become even better, like she is their best teammate. Plus she has the advantage of having more team comps than both of them. Tbh if nahida had his own nahida to buff and do dmg alongside her, she would obliterate everything. In conclusion, all of them are good depending on the situation and nahida is GOD.
Hence I'm so glad I have Nahida and Alhaitham on my team, arrival of dendro is blessing for F2P to finally be able to create powerful teams that does not require such high investmensts like Melt a d Vaporize teams does.
@@axisboise Which is very funny, because Melt and Vape were originally the budget teams. Delivering high output already at mid crit investiment. Although going by my artifact luck, Em builds are the high investiment ones.
@@axisboise i really do regret having skipped nahida 💀 I just can‘t handle her design 😭😭 but now i’m saving up for her to aid my haitham team even more, even when I already obliterate abyss without her
Considering how nahida's literally used in tighnari and alhaitham's teams I'd say she's pretty much the winner here And considering she's one of the best characters rn I'd always go for her other than the two
This is not a whos better character, ofcourse nahida will win that, but these dps showdown videos are not the serious type. This is a more fun c6 testing type of video
@ApplyingGaming Not really, if you want C6 testing there's a separate showcase on that. This is more like a competition, it's in the title and the format. Now idk about you, but if a player helped other players to win, I think that's unfair and takes away the fun.
@@ejoltz4915 yeah it didn't say the best character right? I mean interms of dps, tighnari and alhaitham can output more dps numbers, they just also need an op support like nahida. One can be "stronger" but not "better", it did say something like that at the disclaimer that these types of video doesn't represent the actual comparison of characters overall, and cannot determine if character a is better than b. He also doesnt conclude anything like "tighnari is the best and the strongest base from this results", because that is not the point of the video
She would win if what's being tested here was her value as a character, she is definitely far more valuable overrall. But on-field DPS is what is being tested here. So yeah, she lost
No, she is not. Her dps potential is lower than alhaithams. But this cannot be showcased here as alhaitham is put into a spread team, whilst his best team composition is hyperbloom. Tighnari did get in fact his best team, as he has a harder time triggering hyperblooms with lower dendro application. Nahida got a extra on hit yelan, this would buff Alhaitham in the showcase a lot more too. Nahida is only the best dendro support.
@@artaleasham4105 Nahida, the driver, sub-dps and support in one unit, is by far the best dendro character, if not the best 5* in the game. What are you smoking, man?
I've been using Nahida and Tighnari together since I got Nahida, (even with all the doubters saying Tighnari was bad) and it is a really good pairing for hyperbloom, he is easily one of my higher overall DPS characters. And his playstyle is really fun with the quick cooldowns.
@@EllaNonimato I tend to use Kokomi for healing and good hydro application. And I use EM Raiden for the off field electro hits. The only time it doesn't work great is when the enemies move away from Kokomis jellyfish. I'm sure other hydros could be used, but I haven't really experimented with them.
I wish I could lose 50/50 to him 6 more times and get his weapon. Tighnari did the best here because he is a very fast frontloaded dmg dealer,but if you cant finish then you would have to wait a few more seconds for e. He is still my fave tho
@@saskafraz9148 wow ur telling me a single target unite like tighnari isn’t the best at aoe 😮 . No shit yeah same with xingqui hu tao and many others , that doesn’t mean they are worst it means they are better in different scenarios
Watching Tighnari and Alhaitham fight for fastest clear time and being so close every time, is the kind of friendship rivalry I love to see with these two 😍
@@FischlInsultsMePls fischl on Elegy tho... He can use C6 Diona with elegy, but Yae instead of another dendro support. Might be more fair for spread comparison
@@francescoettwedda-1875 No... because he is bad at single target. Like what are you talking about, like every character in this game do AOE damage. By that standard yoimiya is bad yelan is bad but diluc is good.
@@aashishsingh6295 so xiangling is worse than hu tao because she is worse in single target? Lmao no. It is much better a unit that is good in both single target or aoe than a unit that is only good in single targe
i feel like these tests are mostly oriented to single target damage, which is what tighnari excels at, so it's no wonder that he would win. This is especially considering the hyperbloom team you used for nahida is more effective in aoe situations. However, due to his arrow's homing abilities, he does suffer with large enemy crowds. it would be nice to see how these three characters and their best teams work in the second half of 3.4 abyss, which is more geared towards aoe damage.
In this abyss showcase, all the teams were using Nahida too, and the Nahida team didn't even utilize Yelan C6. That's not even mentioning that the main showcases were focused on single target damage while Nahida can damage huge groups of enemies at a time. So yeah, a pretty unfair showcase for Nahida ngl
Alhaitham can acually compete with Fluffy head in terms of one banging enemies. That's impressive for a character with potentially 18 seconds of sustained dps output
Yeah, I think people don't realize that. Alhaitham was always like 1s behind tighnari but alhaitham can continue dishing out that same dmg for over 12s while tighnari's dps window is only that one instance at the beggining until his CD is over. Tighnari would struggle at multiple waves (or AoE situations) while alhaitham can deal with all of them easily.
@@mandyred1 Overall, all of them are great. Nahida is the archon and archon always the best in their element so she is the exception here. Both Alhaitham and Tighnari are great in different situation and scenario. Alhaitham: sustained high damage output dps with longer on-field time. Tighnari: basically burst nuke dps with some process and then quickswap.
My summary: -Nahida is naturally the strongest dendro unit in the game both for utility, damage, and support because well, the archon. -Both Tighnari and AlHaitham excel at two different scenario despite the other being few seconds faster. Tighnari is good at frontload single target and quickswap playstyle while Alhaitham while lacking a frontload damage is good at long onfield sustained dps and AoE. Although for Alhaitham, his onfield time can be flexible depending on what combo you use.
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also something many people fail to mention is Tighnari's E effect on enemies. It confuses the Consecrated Beasts. I was able to take 0 damage in second floor first half because of Tighnari lol
Tighnari's strength compared to other standard banner characters are high tho. The only one that can catch up is Keqing, but once you do speedruns, Tighnari absolutely obliterates Keqing to oblivion.
It's speedrunner and it's already showing Tighnari is the fastest DPS in every Genshin tournament Chinese and Japanese so isn't really surprise, and for normal players or low budget players their Tighnari isn't gonna touch that level in a long time lol
Tighnari only has like a 2 second dps window, so he has a lot of frontloaded damage, which benefits you a lot for this, especially at C6. Al Haitham is better for fights that will take longer, since he has a lot more field time (at C0 up to 12 seconds with 3 mirror stacks)
I think this is the first dps showdown in which I have all spotlight characters, im kinda broke on freemos now but Alhaitham was so worth, a fine mix of fun, strong, and a very handsome husbando, Nahida also took a lot but not as much but was also so worth just because she’s so good and also adorable, tighnari was a standard drop and I haven’t leveled him ):
Kinda wild to think that Nahida is one of the best support characters in the game, while also being on par with the best Dendro DPS characters. Really goes to show that investing in Nahida is the best option out of the 3 of them.
Nahida being on the other two teams does make things weird, because even based on DPS potential that would make Nahida the better pull. As for Yelan, we could just replace her with a C6 Xingqiu and still get a similar clear time on Nahida's team while there's no character that could replace Nahida on the other two teams and maintain a similar clear time.
While this abyss being very single target is definitely a significant buff to him compared to Alhaitham and Nahida, I'm still pleasantly surprised by how well he did. I feel like he's still very underrated and deserves to be considered more.
@@nicolohonda9926 that one's kinda half and half imo. First wave isn't really in his favor. I'd argue he's well suited for the bird and scorpion though, as they are tanky and his range makes fighting them safer. On of many reasons people should actually build him
I mean, Tighnari and Alhaitham get extra damage from Nahida's tri-karma making it easier for them to clear the floor since they're doing twice the damage Nahida is making, who only relies on her own damage from tri-karma. I think it would've been fair for Nahida if Tighnari and Alhaitham were with a different dendro support like Yaoyao or dendro MC.
But it is fair, Nahida not having a 2nd Nahida is an innate weakness. This was a huge debate comparable when yelan didnt exist and everyone was fighting over xingxiu, he works in alot of teams, and the teams without him is a massive downgrade. Its makes 0 sense why they wouldnt use their best support
i loved this !! great work as always iwlt :)) itd be really cool to see you try this again but use dendro traveler in the tighnari and alhaitham runs instead of nahida to show how they do without her !!
Using Widsith on Nahida would have made her times in burst situations a good deal faster. Her personal weapon has stats allocated to buffing her team members.
exactly what i was thinking. all these tests were single target for some reason? from the world bosses to trying about only first half of abyss, which is mostly single target damage oriented. i feel like the major flaw in a lot of iwtl's showdowns tho are that most of his tests on world bosses, so they really only test single target damage instead of all aspects of a dps chracter.
When he was in the abyss I was like “why he didn’t have a healer?” Then I saw how quick enemies died and I understand. Why should you carry a healer when they died before touching you? 😂
I'm surprised Tighnari is able to keep up despite being a standard character! Yae Miko and Nahida are actually great units to fill in Tighnari's downtime. I think Al Haitham shines more in a hyperbloom comp but then it would just be a Kuki Shinobu EM showcase LOL.
Not just keep up lmao 💀 He wins the entire thing, finishing the fastest in everything. What’s the point of pulling Alhaitham if Tighnari is stronger. At least Nahida has a room for support.
@@hiyyih_lea this is c6 Tighnari vs c6 Alhaitham. Alhaitham constellations are worse than Tighnari’s so it doesn’t really prove Tighnari’s better. Alhaitham is still the better man.
I am f2p mostly but for Nahida’s weapon I spend money cause I wants her the best. I am saving for c2 on her next rerun. I think she will be even more viable with Fontaine characters.
Demm.. i didnt expect that my fav dendro furry will dominate this, i kinda expected him to place 3rd given the amount of hype alhaitham and nahida has compared to him. I am super glad with the result 😁😁 Thanks IWTL 😁👍
Tighnari excels at front loaded damage, the outcome is not that surprising as he is among the best characters speedrun wise, even better than Yelan and Ganyu in some case
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 I did not say that, I explicitly said that he is only better than Yelan in certain cases, the abyss recently greatly favors dendro team and c6 Tighnari utilizes all of these buffs very well making his front loaded single damage the highest currently. The second point would be the existence of Nahida as an absolute force in dendro team, she covers nearly any weakness Tighnari may have in places where you want to use him, which is against single boss. The third point will be an increase in flying boss, which while Yelan will have a harder time to deal with, Tighnari trivializes such mechanic. C6 yelan is broken, absolutely, against almost all contents for that matter, but Tignari is literally created for speedrunning bosses.
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 C0 Tighnari has 100% uptime without needing batteries and multiple fav weapons in the team. Miss Armpits at c0 has 50% uptime and requires a battery PLUS 2 fav weapons in order to cast her Q ONCE. Get off her t*ts, they're not real, ya know?
Thank you god i have all of them... Although I got Al Haitham and Tignari accidentally when i was building pity for mommy Dehya... But i love them all..
I have Tighnari and i like him so much... so.... WHY THEY HYPE NAHIDA SO MUCH!!! I'm FTP, so don't have so much time or primos to spent so i have to think what to pull.. Nahida is coming again soon... (february 2024?) same Nilou... but i want Kazuha, he only runs once a year! but i have wanderer and Faruzan.... WHAT DO I DO??
You should honestly... When i pull for cyno i got tighnari and I'm so mad because of it... Since then i call him green cyno.... But later after i finished gear him up... Man... This guy literally shut my mouth by carrying me entire abbys for three patches...
This video was really interesting in multiple ways. To start things off Nahida was basically in every team so that really makes you wonder, how her own clear times were basically equal to those where she was used as Sub-DPS alongside other, really strong Main DPS characters. Not to mention how powerful her C2 is for Dendro and Electro DPS Characters as well, she is truly a most adorable monster. Another thing is that this is probably the one video where no one can complain that you used Yelan in it, because while Yelan is with Nahida, Nahida herself is with Tighnari and Al-Haitham, so that evens things out for every team. And the last thing is that this is probably the first DPS showdown you had where you didn't use bennett or kazuha anywhere. And allow me to say that it was SO refreshing to see that. Dendro's introduction made the combat a lot more diverse and flexible, rather than revolving around two overused characters. Fun video! Thank you for all the effort you put into your work!
12:57 "And of course, for the Durrito bot, Tighnari chunks most of his hitpoints, but is just short of being able to finishing it off, so we call in Nahida to finish of the last remaining bit of health." Meanwhile Yae Miko dealing 113.928 per E tick: "Am I a joke to you?"
No... C6 Tighnari deals about 280.000 per Charge shot... And that charge shot will happen 3 times in 2 second which mean for 1 E tick yae miko tighnari already dealing about 740.000 damage... This not include the skill and burst damage which estimated about 350.000... and all that happens just in 4-5 second
I have all three of them well here are some things that I want to point: First I think Nahida is the best among them in general Second In case of Tighnari and AlHaitham. I think the comparison isn't really realistic well because at C0 there would be a clear gap between Haitham and Tighnari Tighnari at C0 isn't like Tighnari at C6 What I mean is Tighnari gains much more from his cons than Haitham At C0 Tighnari does much lower damage than Haitham even at single target which is Tighnari's specialty plus he is much more expensive to build than Haitham For example a lot of charchters are better than Childe at C6 because Childe' cons are one of the worst but he is still better than most dps in the game I'm not actually saying Haitham is like Childe in fact Haitham cons really buff him I'm just using childe example to indicate how tier list would be different if we are talking about C6 not to mention to have a c6 Tighnari is harder than to C6 any limited charchter There are whale channels on youtube who don't have C6 Tighnari I mean when you are a whale the possibilty of having C6 Tighnari is higher because of the crazy number of pulls you do That's why I said the comparison usn't realistic because for f2p players charchter like Haitham and Childe ( I don't why I'm mentioning Childe ) is far better Lastly even if this is a C6 comparison this is still crazy for a standard banner charchter to clear faster than limited charchters(I know Nahida is support lol) this makes me want to see more of Tighnari comparison because of how crazy he is at C6 So in conclusion at C6 all of them perform similar as dps but to be honest I wanted to see a comparison between Haitham and other charchters like wanderer and Cyno well I'm thinking of getting them on their reruns I know the comparison is much more useful for people who only have one of them
The chamber mostly favor on tignari tho.. Cuz of a single waves specially in 12-1.... cuz he's a spread focus dps but in terms of mobs with high hp I think alhaitham can win though to his dps window uptime But your right most of the genshin players are f2p so they can't really reach the c6 (for the mean time but it took years to c6 a standard character tho) and Maybe 😂 f2p players thinking that if they got a C0 tignari it's already stronger than C0 alhaitham what the heck! F2p thinking? 😂😂 But if your a f2p you would rather get nahida c2 atleast than getting a cons like alhaitham or tignari
You're right but most of the people who watch IWTL are causals and are happy for their C0 tighnari and are probably not tryhard 36 star abyss players, where it matters if they got the wrong conclusion from this video. Simply ironsting alhaitham > tighnari without his bow. Anyway I also wanted to write a large explanation but i decided it wasn't worth it, people are happy to have tighnari, and at the end of the day that's all that matters in Genshin, and if they do invest him and get aqua or his bow then he will be a 36 star abyss character.
@@markjunlibrado9664 Yeah I agree with you I also don't think AlHaitham early cons are worth getting Because he and Tighnari strongest cons is basically C6 plus Haitham cons isn't really broken like C2 Nahida or C6 Yelan so I won't really recommend it but it surely boosts his damage
@@RaikouPKM I just wanted to clarify how they are like at C0 and I said Tighnari is more expensive to bulid because Tighnari doesn't perform that well without a 5 star weapon and actually I use him with Aqua Simulacra because I think it's the best for his damage meanwhile AlHaitham is really good with four star option even with 3 star weapon like hod I wanted to say that as a help for people who are actually curious didn't mean to put someone down In a lot of the C6 comoarison in this channel if I say charchter 1 is better than charchter 2 at C6 then it's most likely that Charchter 1 is also better at C0 that's for most of the charchter not all of them but in this comparison specifically C0 results would be much different from C6 I'm really sorry if my long explaintion is offensive Well despite all of what I said Tighnari is a good dps and I didn't lose the 50/50 to him I actually pulled him on his banner because I love his playstlye and he helped me a lot on abyss and this video is just enough reason of crazy Tighnari can be 😃 well Haitham abd Tighnari are different each one specialize at something one is better at multiple target the latter is better at single target both has their pros and cons like Tighnari is easier to play and has shorter cooldown less energy cost for burst Again I'm sorry if what I said was offensive to any Tighnari main And as you said people at the end should play who they prefer By the way I myself shouldn't really talk about who is better because I pulled for Tighnari although Ganyu was on the next banber Same thing with AlHaitham I pulled him although Hu tao is on the next banner just because I love their playstyle more Sorry I talk a lot
Tighnari is great because losing a 50/50 does not feel bad at all, even when I lost to him in the past banner I kinda like him, even more when I try it and after this is just better
I know you're giving them optimal teams, but not really sure it's fair using one of the competitors to support the others- hard to distinguish how much of their faster time is THEIRS vs Nahida being a powerhouse off field as well as on
you people are genuinely delusional, do you understand what a support is? It's not abt char value, it's about DPS potential, and their optimal teams include Nahida, like it or not. She could be doing 90% of the dmg and it would still be their runs. Get over it.
@@heinzkohl7739 It's a "Tighnari vs Al Haitham vs Nahida" comparison in "who is the best Dendro DPS", it doesn't make sense to use Nahida on all teams, it's just become "Tighnari & Nahida vs Al Haitham & Nahida vs Nahida" at this point.
@@heinzkohl7739 what? hes saying its kinda useless doing a dps showdown when hes using the same 5 star as a support to the 5 stars hes comparing that same 5 star too. doing a dps showdown with alhaitham vs nahida, then using a nahida with alhaitham, it become two 5 stars against one and its a meaningless showcase
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 What is meaning? Are the meaning here was to showcase the DPS potential of each character IN and WITHOUT a team. 2 of them have her as a SUPPORT in their team. She as a DPS is WEAKER than them in teams where she is a SUPPORT. The meaning to showcase who is the best Dendro DAMAGE PER SECOND dealer has thus been fulfilled. You calling it meaningless bc your subhuman ape brain cannot differenciate between the VALUE of a char and their DPS potential in a full team won't change the result. GG get over it bozo.
i think not having other characters of a showdown in the teams would make the comparison better, personally i watch these to see which unit is worth summoning for which means i can only chose one, in my opinion Nahida shouldn't be used in the other teams to see how they actually perform in their own team without the others help
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Lol literally my three favorite characters in the game. My experience as someone who has crowned all of them (triple crowned Alhaitham, Double crowned Tighnari, and Crowned Nahida) Tighnari is best for boss killing (and best standard character) Alhaitham is the best dps (probably the best in the game at c0/low investment) Nahida is the best sub dps/support and will make any dendro team a lot stronger (arguably the strongest character in general rn)
I was actually surprised at how competitive Tighnari was vs Alhaitham. Probably because my Tighnari is still searching for an artifact set to get me over 170% CD
I have 3 of them 2 of them are well built tignari C0 r1 nahida C0 r1 but alhaitham C0 (Hod) r5 is not properly built And base on experience tignari is really strong in single target the only down side is his CD but alhaitham is really good in multitarget and single target too despite using a 3 star weapon And about nahida I didn't build her as a dps so she can't compete to them Hmm call me biased but I think in terms of c0 alhaitham is stronger than tignari but in c6 tignhari is stronger cuz of the his CD fixed in c6 meaning he can do more dmg than alhaitham in short amount of time but in mobs I think alhaitham can win if his c6 too
Since he's using C6 Alhaitham, he could've done better against the dorito. Should've used hold E + instant plunge to get 3 mirrors for his Burst. He only had 2 for it. 2nd thing, he could've switched back to nahida for N1E or Mona for N1E(Hyperbloom), then switch back to Alhaitham for restored mirrors. Idk if he'd beat Tighnari's time, but he'd certainly be closer to it.
if you do it like this it won’t trigger the c6 effect~ if you E+plunge then Q, you will consume the 3 mirrors to open a long Q and then you will get back 3 mirrors, C6 needs to have the 4th mirror only will proc, so what he did is E > Q then charged attack so he could get a mid Q, get back 3 mirrors and CA to proc the 4th mirror
@@shentobento1079 as someone with both, you might want to rethink your assessment. Depending on how many enemies there are and how spread out they are, Nahida could do better.
Tighnari still remains one of my funnest and most powerful characters. He doesn’t have god-like artifacts, however using him with fischl, kazuha/venti and kokomi is always a blast
Tighnari's c6 IS NO JOKE. It's so broken compared to other standard characters c6. Being able to quickly charge a shot AND give you a bonus clusterbloom that deals a lot of damage sounds "ok" on paper, but in practice it annihilates everything. Just another reason why I'm so happy he's a standard character. Atleast I'm more likely to get his constellations! (Still Tighnari-less tho)
I think they said that more because he was going to be permanent on standard banner. I don't think I've heard people saying he was bad. But tbh it's terrible to call anyone stupid anyway, so they shouldn't have said it like that.
@@ValentijnEnJack Oh then they really didn't know what they were saying xD (this is why I don't listen to doom posters) and thank you!! Your pfp is cool, too!
I feel like this showcase can be safely viewed as "How does a DPS Nahida team fair against Nahida being in the support role" As shes one of the best in slots for the others aswell, removing her from their teams wouldn't solve the problem of this being "unfair" to some people because of course, Tighnari's and, Alheithm's damage would suffer because they strictly need Nahida to succeed... Nahida doesnt need to win this "Brunt DPS Output Challenge" The fact that she can get this close to the other characters times being ON HER OWN while still being able to be the best Dendro reaction enabler is spectacular in of its self.
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Galaxy S21 5g . gameplay is smooth at max settings , you get 1 to 2 hours to play before having to charge up n only have to wait about 40 mins charging before playing again , no heat issues
"Unlike Al Haitham who can last a really long time, Tighnari is much more intense and finishes very quickly."
Bro what...
It means if Tighnari dont kill all in a fast rotation he loses a lil bit of his potential. Alhaitham do less dmg but more consistent.
They both have different styles 😏
Ikr I Thought it was one of His Jokes Again 😭😭
@@leonesavabel3651 it can mean something else without a context
Ba dum tss moments hahaha
It's funny that Nahida's biggest downside is that there isn't a second Nahida to support her.
*Rukkhadevata enters the chat*
Kaveh is coming
@@BarQ__ who's Rukkhadevata?👀
@@jaywasthieved radish 1.0
@@BarQ__ That’s Nahida
Nahida's team being the slowest on abyss 12 is because she spend some time helping the other two's run
THIS!
yeah its not really fair to use nahida in their teams should have had the same supports
@@QMS9224 i think its fair. What makes AlHaitam and Tighnari good is also the fact that Nahida exists.
This is not a "who is the best character" but a dps showdown, if not Nahida would 100% win
Yeah but at the same time, Yelan is in Nahida's team as a sub-DPS
She aint a dps till c1 c2 c6
The fact Nahida is on every team and was still competitive in her own, really tells you how broken Hoyo made her
Besides Venti that got Kazuha as competition, all Archons have really strong kits that really sets them a league apart; heck even in Venti’s case he still a really good unit even not being the best at his role.
@@biazacha Venti isn't bad by all means, it's just that mihoyoverse only had "best sucking ability" in mind when designing him.
@@biazacha not being the best at sucking enemies??
@@biazacha
Not even. Venti is still basically uncontested in the crowd control department. Any floor that doesnt have unccable units is ez win ggz with a Venti. 100% uptime on cc and insane area of of effect. His opness in this role is like the only reason we have unccable mobs to fight
@@seraphywang4638 the issue with venti is that there are more and more enemies that aren't affected by the succ anymore. He's still an amazing unit though.
10:54 That triple activation of Nahida burst was so satisfying
Perfection
Its like winnning the lottery
Kore ga requiem!
So basically, nahida is an off field support that capable to dps like alhaitham and has range ability like tighnari while buffing them.. sheeeeesh
Yes
that is a c6 nahida. It has tons of frontloaded dmg.
i mean she is a dendro archon afterall
Try her as main-dps at C0 lol
@@whiteangel1138 ah, yes no worry.. My c0 nahida did like 41k TKP with raiden E alone and she is on deepwood too.. Gilded 60k btw 😁
it's good to say that a standard like Tighnari being this good.
How come people clowning him back than ?
@@harfi212 because he's on standard, and that apparently automatically makes him bad lol
This is c6 + single target focused though, at c0, tighnari will be a bit slower than alhaitham even in single target, not to mention alhaitham absolutely crushes him in AoE. Nevertheless tighnari is still quite a good character
@@Daverf1f yeah especially considering that you can potentially getting at any point in time while alhaitham only appears during rate up banners
@@fardareismai4495 To put it simply thats because you can get Tighnari while losing your 50 for Nahida while you can't get Nahida for losing your 50 if a tighnari banner comes out this instant.
Wether or not you think it is worth is up to you but for most people he isn't a first choice and is not restricted by a time period.
Nahida really said: hold on I gotta help these two get some numbers too
Honestly, this video is really good at showing how different their playstyles are:
1) tighnari is excellent at single target and his dmg output is frontloaded on a few seconds so his speedrunning times are better, sometimes he might fall short of finishing off the enemy himself or he might struggle at multiple waves, hence why he is a good quickswap unit, you just go to his teammate to finish it.
2) Alhaitham is an excellent on-field dps, he was always a few seconds behind tighnari but its good to keep in mind that alhaitham can continue dishing out the same dmg for around 12s or even more if played correctly and he is good at both single target, AoE and dealing with multiple waves of enemies, plus his easy dendro application makes him viable in quickbloom teams.
3) Nahida, though the slowest, is the winner here. Despite her being considered a support, the ammount of dmg she can provide off-field is excellent. She provides off-field dendro application, good at AoE and single target, her C6 just turns her into a DPS. She buffs EM, so alhaitham and tighnari being on the same team as her become even better, like she is their best teammate. Plus she has the advantage of having more team comps than both of them. Tbh if nahida had his own nahida to buff and do dmg alongside her, she would obliterate everything.
In conclusion, all of them are good depending on the situation and nahida is GOD.
Hence I'm so glad I have Nahida and Alhaitham on my team, arrival of dendro is blessing for F2P to finally be able to create powerful teams that does not require such high investmensts like Melt a d Vaporize teams does.
@@axisboise IKR! It lets us easily make reactions and it is so much fun to play now
@@axisboise Which is very funny, because Melt and Vape were originally the budget teams. Delivering high output already at mid crit investiment.
Although going by my artifact luck, Em builds are the high investiment ones.
Of course, Nahida is god of good
@@axisboise i really do regret having skipped nahida 💀 I just can‘t handle her design 😭😭 but now i’m saving up for her to aid my haitham team even more, even when I already obliterate abyss without her
Tighnari's playstyle is just so satisfying.
Wow that’s probably the first showdown ever without benny AND kazuha involved… they finally get some rest lol
thanks to dendro introduction 🤠
Considering how nahida's literally used in tighnari and alhaitham's teams I'd say she's pretty much the winner here
And considering she's one of the best characters rn I'd always go for her other than the two
I thought Yae Miko doesn't trigger hyperbloom that well, and that double hydro raiden was Nahida best team.
This is not a whos better character, ofcourse nahida will win that, but these dps showdown videos are not the serious type. This is a more fun c6 testing type of video
@ApplyingGaming Not really, if you want C6 testing there's a separate showcase on that. This is more like a competition, it's in the title and the format. Now idk about you, but if a player helped other players to win, I think that's unfair and takes away the fun.
@@applyinggaming9529 DPS SHOWDOWN
WHO'S THE *STRONGEST DPS???*
@@ejoltz4915 yeah it didn't say the best character right? I mean interms of dps, tighnari and alhaitham can output more dps numbers, they just also need an op support like nahida.
One can be "stronger" but not "better", it did say something like that at the disclaimer that these types of video doesn't represent the actual comparison of characters overall, and cannot determine if character a is better than b. He also doesnt conclude anything like "tighnari is the best and the strongest base from this results", because that is not the point of the video
Seeing Nahida in tighnari and alhaitham floor 12 showcase shows you how broken she is and why you should pull her in the next rerun
Tighnari and Alhaitham best constellation is Nahida’s constellation 2, that’s the problem.
@@Eclin
Lmao true true
Pulled her from her first banner 🗿..
Now only thing I'll go for is her constellations and weapon from her upcoming re-runs..
Hoping I can win 50/50,and after that ill be saving for her next rerun to unlock alhaithams c6(nahidas c2)
No
Think Nahida wins this just by the fact that she has extremely competitive times and she is supporting both of the others.
She would win if what's being tested here was her value as a character, she is definitely far more valuable overrall. But on-field DPS is what is being tested here. So yeah, she lost
Nahida being in all 3 teams for abyss floor... She really is the best dendro character
Archon
No, she is not. Her dps potential is lower than alhaithams. But this cannot be showcased here as alhaitham is put into a spread team, whilst his best team composition is hyperbloom. Tighnari did get in fact his best team, as he has a harder time triggering hyperblooms with lower dendro application. Nahida got a extra on hit yelan, this would buff Alhaitham in the showcase a lot more too. Nahida is only the best dendro support.
@@artaleasham4105 Nahida, the driver, sub-dps and support in one unit, is by far the best dendro character, if not the best 5* in the game. What are you smoking, man?
@@artaleasham4105 she is. Talk to a wall
@@artaleasham4105 My C0 "dendro support" Nahida still manages to do 50k tri karma almost every hit x_x
Imagine Nahidna being a support and barely a Sub DPS and reaching those high numbers.
C6 tends to do that to characters. Eherm Yelan...
C6 changes her to an onfield carry. Read the description. It doesn’t activate when off field
Nahida: I'm not very good at fighting.
What? She's a support/sub DPS and does enough damage herself to be a MDPS. I'm not sure how she is "barely a sub dps"
She is a hypercarry at c6, much like yelan
I've been using Nahida and Tighnari together since I got Nahida, (even with all the doubters saying Tighnari was bad) and it is a really good pairing for hyperbloom, he is easily one of my higher overall DPS characters. And his playstyle is really fun with the quick cooldowns.
Absolutely love playing him
what hydro character do you use?
@@EllaNonimato I tend to use Kokomi for healing and good hydro application. And I use EM Raiden for the off field electro hits. The only time it doesn't work great is when the enemies move away from Kokomis jellyfish. I'm sure other hydros could be used, but I haven't really experimented with them.
I honestly taught that tighnari will be the worst here and i was so wrong!I am glad that i pulled him on his banner.Great video like always❤️
He would be the worst against more than one target
I wish I could lose 50/50 to him 6 more times and get his weapon. Tighnari did the best here because he is a very fast frontloaded dmg dealer,but if you cant finish then you would have to wait a few more seconds for e. He is still my fave tho
@@saskafraz9148 wow ur telling me a single target unite like tighnari isn’t the best at aoe 😮 . No shit yeah same with xingqui hu tao and many others , that doesn’t mean they are worst it means they are better in different scenarios
@@saskafraz9148 didn't you saw the abyss run. Tighnari was the winner
@@FRIES-h4y How is that too offensive. He is objectively the worse out of all them when it comes to aoe lmao
Watching Tighnari and Alhaitham fight for fastest clear time and being so close every time, is the kind of friendship rivalry I love to see with these two 😍
It's not fair that nahida doesn't have a nahida lol
nahida needs a rukhadevata'
2 Nahida instantly win
Shouldn't Nahida team be another dendro support, Fischl and Sucrose/Kazuha instead?
@@definitelynotsusan4260 Fischl excels at aggravate, not spread. Anemo doesn’t shred dendro and Nahida hardly needs grouping.
@@FischlInsultsMePls fischl on Elegy tho... He can use C6 Diona with elegy, but Yae instead of another dendro support. Might be more fair for spread comparison
Unlike Haitham who lasts a long time, Tightnari finishes quickly, and runs out of juice… 10:05 🏃🏻
the fact that nahida belongs to both teams supporting alhaitham and tighnari says so much
I haven't watched your showdown yet, but I guessed Tinghari right away. Dude's underated since he's a standard banner 5*
Alhaitham is better because he has aoe and quickbloom
@@francescoettwedda-1875 No... because he is bad at single target. Like what are you talking about, like every character in this game do AOE damage. By that standard yoimiya is bad yelan is bad but diluc is good.
@@aashishsingh6295 he is not bad at single target wtf are you even saying
@@francescoettwedda-1875 I said that because tighnari is better at single target. So in comparison he is bad not BAD.
@@aashishsingh6295 so xiangling is worse than hu tao because she is worse in single target? Lmao no. It is much better a unit that is good in both single target or aoe than a unit that is only good in single targe
Man I really miss the C0 DPS showdowns.
if only there was an option to turn off constellations
Agree
Lifefull has them all at c0. He compared them all, as well.
He is a youtuber. He should just have a account for c0 . Charectors. He can afford it . If he can get c6 on everything. He is a god dam whale
Seriously, lmao. C6 R5 showdowns are straight cringe
i feel like these tests are mostly oriented to single target damage, which is what tighnari excels at, so it's no wonder that he would win. This is especially considering the hyperbloom team you used for nahida is more effective in aoe situations. However, due to his arrow's homing abilities, he does suffer with large enemy crowds. it would be nice to see how these three characters and their best teams work in the second half of 3.4 abyss, which is more geared towards aoe damage.
In this abyss showcase, all the teams were using Nahida too, and the Nahida team didn't even utilize Yelan C6. That's not even mentioning that the main showcases were focused on single target damage while Nahida can damage huge groups of enemies at a time. So yeah, a pretty unfair showcase for Nahida ngl
@@necrotempest4444 Wdym didn't utilize Yelan's C6? Did we watch the same video? It was utilized 100% of the time she popped her ult.
Hyperbloom is better in single target though?
If you have crowd control he isn’t that bad either
@@Makiiiii24 9:43
You know dendro brought some change to the game when the winners of a certain DPS showdown aren't Bennet and Kazuha
Alhaitham can acually compete with Fluffy head in terms of one banging enemies. That's impressive for a character with potentially 18 seconds of sustained dps output
Yeah, I think people don't realize that. Alhaitham was always like 1s behind tighnari but alhaitham can continue dishing out that same dmg for over 12s while tighnari's dps window is only that one instance at the beggining until his CD is over. Tighnari would struggle at multiple waves (or AoE situations) while alhaitham can deal with all of them easily.
one banging enermies 💀
@@mandyred1 Overall, all of them are great. Nahida is the archon and archon always the best in their element so she is the exception here.
Both Alhaitham and Tighnari are great in different situation and scenario.
Alhaitham: sustained high damage output dps with longer on-field time.
Tighnari: basically burst nuke dps with some process and then quickswap.
So tignari is for single mob he can do one banging and alhaitham is for multitarget for gangbanging right?, 😂
@@nightday2030also, al haitham is better at dealing with multiple enemies whereas tighnari excels at single target
i recently got nahida i was always using tignari but now i just realize he is my main!! my entire playstyle is based on his skills
IWTL: "Alhaitham vs Nahida vs Tighnari"
Also IWTL: proceeds to use Nahida on both Alhaitham and Tighnari teams
Poor Nahida died finishing off the dorito, she truly takes the W for me
My summary:
-Nahida is naturally the strongest dendro unit in the game both for utility, damage, and support because well, the archon.
-Both Tighnari and AlHaitham excel at two different scenario despite the other being few seconds faster. Tighnari is good at frontload single target and quickswap playstyle while Alhaitham while lacking a frontload damage is good at long onfield sustained dps and AoE. Although for Alhaitham, his onfield time can be flexible depending on what combo you use.
Before even watching I have a feeling all 3 are going to be very solid!
It's impressive how close their times are. Also cute cabbage not minding helping her competitors is cool.
I thought she is a radish
I don’t know if you know this or not about playing Genshin on mobile, but I noticed that you were just repeatedly tapping the screen to pick up the fowls. If you instead tap your character once it will pick up all the items in an instant
I have been playing this game wrong the whole time!!!
I used to think why sometimes i get all the items instantly.
WHAT :O
As a former mobile player, this was so useful. I wish we could do the same in pc by just holding alt and clicking.
@@jokc8 PC players go: FFFFFFFFF
@@axisboise controller users goes SQUARESQUARESQUARESQUARESQUARESQUARE
also something many people fail to mention is Tighnari's E effect on enemies. It confuses the Consecrated Beasts. I was able to take 0 damage in second floor first half because of Tighnari lol
I am curious of the times if nahida was not on alhaitam and tignahri teams.
Wow nahida was in all teams as on field or off field dps honestly best dendro character out of the 3
Imagine being a Dendro dps and losing to a standard banner character 🗿
Tighnari's strength compared to other standard banner characters are high tho. The only one that can catch up is Keqing, but once you do speedruns, Tighnari absolutely obliterates Keqing to oblivion.
It's speedrunner and it's already showing Tighnari is the fastest DPS in every Genshin tournament Chinese and Japanese so isn't really surprise, and for normal players or low budget players their Tighnari isn't gonna touch that level in a long time lol
Tighnari only has like a 2 second dps window, so he has a lot of frontloaded damage, which benefits you a lot for this, especially at C6. Al Haitham is better for fights that will take longer, since he has a lot more field time (at C0 up to 12 seconds with 3 mirror stacks)
Sales reflect the performance of the current banner no?
Gigachad Tighnari
I think this is the first dps showdown in which I have all spotlight characters, im kinda broke on freemos now but Alhaitham was so worth, a fine mix of fun, strong, and a very handsome husbando, Nahida also took a lot but not as much but was also so worth just because she’s so good and also adorable, tighnari was a standard drop and I haven’t leveled him ):
Same here, I have Nahida and c1 Tighnari on one account, and Alhaitham in the other(will get Nahida on rerun)
Nahida hard flexs on her opponents by assisting them against her
Finally a Dendro DPS showdown
Tbh today is my first time i didn't skip your ads video xD
Having gaming monster as your ad is so awesome
Kinda wild to think that Nahida is one of the best support characters in the game, while also being on par with the best Dendro DPS characters. Really goes to show that investing in Nahida is the best option out of the 3 of them.
10:02, he hesitated a bit on delivering that joke indeed 🤣
Nahida being on the other two teams does make things weird, because even based on DPS potential that would make Nahida the better pull. As for Yelan, we could just replace her with a C6 Xingqiu and still get a similar clear time on Nahida's team while there's no character that could replace Nahida on the other two teams and maintain a similar clear time.
While this abyss being very single target is definitely a significant buff to him compared to Alhaitham and Nahida, I'm still pleasantly surprised by how well he did. I feel like he's still very underrated and deserves to be considered more.
The floor with the bird and the scorpion wasn't even a single target floor but he still manage to surpass the two
@@nicolohonda9926 that one's kinda half and half imo. First wave isn't really in his favor. I'd argue he's well suited for the bird and scorpion though, as they are tanky and his range makes fighting them safer. On of many reasons people should actually build him
man i love tighnari, he has the fastest charged shots without constellations
I mean, Tighnari and Alhaitham get extra damage from Nahida's tri-karma making it easier for them to clear the floor since they're doing twice the damage Nahida is making, who only relies on her own damage from tri-karma. I think it would've been fair for Nahida if Tighnari and Alhaitham were with a different dendro support like Yaoyao or dendro MC.
Bro nahoda got yelan in her team btw
@@wahabozomaki6312 then he could've put yelan on their team as well right? But he didn't, because nahida is better than yelan in the circumstance.
But it is fair, Nahida not having a 2nd Nahida is an innate weakness. This was a huge debate comparable when yelan didnt exist and everyone was fighting over xingxiu, he works in alot of teams, and the teams without him is a massive downgrade. Its makes 0 sense why they wouldnt use their best support
i loved this !! great work as always iwlt :))
itd be really cool to see you try this again but use dendro traveler in the tighnari and alhaitham runs instead of nahida to show how they do without her !!
Totally seconded!
Using Widsith on Nahida would have made her times in burst situations a good deal faster. Her personal weapon has stats allocated to buffing her team members.
Single target is where tighnari shines.. while nahida and al-haitham are better at AOE
exactly what i was thinking. all these tests were single target for some reason? from the world bosses to trying about only first half of abyss, which is mostly single target damage oriented. i feel like the major flaw in a lot of iwtl's showdowns tho are that most of his tests on world bosses, so they really only test single target damage instead of all aspects of a dps chracter.
Tighnari's C6 is just cracked against a single target, he making them eat every single piece of those green things lmao.
When he was in the abyss I was like “why he didn’t have a healer?” Then I saw how quick enemies died and I understand. Why should you carry a healer when they died before touching you? 😂
Yes baby let's go iwintolose I love your awesome videos dps showdown 💪🙏🔥
I'm surprised Tighnari is able to keep up despite being a standard character!
Yae Miko and Nahida are actually great units to fill in Tighnari's downtime. I think Al Haitham shines more in a hyperbloom comp but then it would just be a Kuki Shinobu EM showcase LOL.
Not just keep up lmao 💀 He wins the entire thing, finishing the fastest in everything. What’s the point of pulling Alhaitham if Tighnari is stronger. At least Nahida has a room for support.
@@hiyyih_lea this is c6 Tighnari vs c6 Alhaitham. Alhaitham constellations are worse than Tighnari’s so it doesn’t really prove Tighnari’s better. Alhaitham is still the better man.
This is the funniest one you've done so far, loved it! And I agree with the true winner. Always my favorite.
Tighnari is insane. Regret not pulling for him. Hope I get him from the standard banner
And his gameplay is so much fun too!
I always appreciate the effort for you DPS showdown. Thank you so much!
I am f2p mostly but for Nahida’s weapon I spend money cause I wants her the best. I am saving for c2 on her next rerun. I think she will be even more viable with Fontaine characters.
You should do this dps showdown more often. It is very fun to watch😶🌫️
Demm.. i didnt expect that my fav dendro furry will dominate this, i kinda expected him to place 3rd given the amount of hype alhaitham and nahida has compared to him.
I am super glad with the result 😁😁
Thanks IWTL 😁👍
Tighnari excels at front loaded damage, the outcome is not that surprising as he is among the best characters speedrun wise, even better than Yelan and Ganyu in some case
@@FischlInsultsMePls No way in hell you just said Tighnari is better than Yelan 💀
You guys are as delusional as Scara simps 😂
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 I did not say that, I explicitly said that he is only better than Yelan in certain cases, the abyss recently greatly favors dendro team and c6 Tighnari utilizes all of these buffs very well making his front loaded single damage the highest currently.
The second point would be the existence of Nahida as an absolute force in dendro team, she covers nearly any weakness Tighnari may have in places where you want to use him, which is against single boss.
The third point will be an increase in flying boss, which while Yelan will have a harder time to deal with, Tighnari trivializes such mechanic.
C6 yelan is broken, absolutely, against almost all contents for that matter, but Tignari is literally created for speedrunning bosses.
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 C0 Tighnari has 100% uptime without needing batteries and multiple fav weapons in the team. Miss Armpits at c0 has 50% uptime and requires a battery PLUS 2 fav weapons in order to cast her Q ONCE. Get off her t*ts, they're not real, ya know?
@@RejectedInch I got a good laugh when I read 'Miss Armpits'.
Thank you god i have all of them... Although I got Al Haitham and Tignari accidentally when i was building pity for mommy Dehya... But i love them all..
I have Tighnari and i like him so much... so....
WHY THEY HYPE NAHIDA SO MUCH!!!
I'm FTP, so don't have so much time or primos to spent so i have to think what to pull.. Nahida is coming again soon... (february 2024?) same Nilou... but i want Kazuha, he only runs once a year! but i have wanderer and Faruzan....
WHAT DO I DO??
Now im not feeling really bad on pulling tighnari on the 50/50 against raiden.. Great video! I'll rewatch the tighnari video and build him!
You should honestly... When i pull for cyno i got tighnari and I'm so mad because of it... Since then i call him green cyno.... But later after i finished gear him up... Man... This guy literally shut my mouth by carrying me entire abbys for three patches...
Sorry my English bad... But u get what i mean...
I have all three and tignari is my go to. . Love him
Raiden is wayyy better so ….
This video was really interesting in multiple ways.
To start things off Nahida was basically in every team so that really makes you wonder, how her own clear times were basically equal to those where she was used as Sub-DPS alongside other, really strong Main DPS characters. Not to mention how powerful her C2 is for Dendro and Electro DPS Characters as well, she is truly a most adorable monster.
Another thing is that this is probably the one video where no one can complain that you used Yelan in it, because while Yelan is with Nahida, Nahida herself is with Tighnari and Al-Haitham, so that evens things out for every team.
And the last thing is that this is probably the first DPS showdown you had where you didn't use bennett or kazuha anywhere. And allow me to say that it was SO refreshing to see that. Dendro's introduction made the combat a lot more diverse and flexible, rather than revolving around two overused characters.
Fun video! Thank you for all the effort you put into your work!
I'm genuinely surprised with Tighnari's nuke missiles.
it might be because CC don't talk about him at all, and don't even use him on team comps, but he's really great.
Really appreciate all the effort on the puns, this was seriously enjoyable to watch! Interesting data too, thanks for sharing!
12:57 "And of course, for the Durrito bot, Tighnari chunks most of his hitpoints, but is just short of being able to finishing it off, so we call in Nahida to finish of the last remaining bit of health."
Meanwhile Yae Miko dealing 113.928 per E tick: "Am I a joke to you?"
No... C6 Tighnari deals about 280.000 per Charge shot... And that charge shot will happen 3 times in 2 second which mean for 1 E tick yae miko tighnari already dealing about 740.000 damage... This not include the skill and burst damage which estimated about 350.000... and all that happens just in 4-5 second
@@orleandsgunnar4311 the comparison was referring to Yae Miko vs. (non C6) Nahida… so no need to be triggered :D
I wasn't expecting that winner lol! Also, i love how you use Nonon's face for the dad, jokes. Kudos!
I have all three of them
well here are some things that I want to point:
First I think Nahida is the best among them in general
Second In case of Tighnari and AlHaitham. I think the comparison isn't really realistic well because at C0 there would be a clear gap between Haitham and Tighnari
Tighnari at C0 isn't like Tighnari at C6
What I mean is Tighnari gains much more from his cons than Haitham
At C0 Tighnari does much lower damage than Haitham even at single target which is Tighnari's specialty plus he is much more expensive to build than Haitham
For example a lot of charchters are better than Childe at C6 because Childe' cons are one of the worst but he is still better than most dps in the game
I'm not actually saying Haitham is like Childe in fact Haitham cons really buff him
I'm just using childe example to indicate how tier list would be different if we are talking about C6
not to mention to have a c6 Tighnari is harder than to C6 any limited charchter
There are whale channels on youtube who don't have C6 Tighnari
I mean when you are a whale the possibilty of having C6 Tighnari is higher because of the crazy number of pulls you do
That's why I said the comparison usn't realistic because for f2p players charchter like Haitham and Childe ( I don't why I'm mentioning Childe ) is far better
Lastly even if this is a C6 comparison this is still crazy for a standard banner charchter to clear faster than limited charchters(I know Nahida is support lol) this makes me want to see more of Tighnari comparison because of how crazy he is at C6
So in conclusion at C6 all of them perform similar as dps but to be honest I wanted to see a comparison between Haitham and other charchters like wanderer and Cyno well I'm thinking of getting them on their reruns
I know the comparison is much more useful for people who only have one of them
The chamber mostly favor on tignari tho.. Cuz of a single waves specially in 12-1.... cuz he's a spread focus dps but in terms of mobs with high hp I think alhaitham can win though to his dps window uptime
But your right most of the genshin players are f2p so they can't really reach the c6 (for the mean time but it took years to c6 a standard character tho) and
Maybe 😂 f2p players thinking that if they got a C0 tignari it's already stronger than C0 alhaitham what the heck! F2p thinking? 😂😂
But if your a f2p you would rather get nahida c2 atleast than getting a cons like alhaitham or tignari
You're right but most of the people who watch IWTL are causals and are happy for their C0 tighnari and are probably not tryhard 36 star abyss players, where it matters if they got the wrong conclusion from this video.
Simply ironsting alhaitham > tighnari without his bow.
Anyway I also wanted to write a large explanation but i decided it wasn't worth it, people are happy to have tighnari, and at the end of the day that's all that matters in Genshin, and if they do invest him and get aqua or his bow then he will be a 36 star abyss character.
@@markjunlibrado9664 Yeah I agree with you
I also don't think AlHaitham early cons are worth getting
Because he and Tighnari strongest cons is basically C6
plus Haitham cons isn't really broken like C2 Nahida or C6 Yelan so I won't really recommend it but it surely boosts his damage
@@RaikouPKM I just wanted to clarify how they are like at C0
and I said Tighnari is more expensive to bulid because Tighnari doesn't perform that well without a 5 star weapon and actually I use him with Aqua Simulacra because I think it's the best for his damage meanwhile AlHaitham is really good with four star option even with 3 star weapon like hod
I wanted to say that as a help for people who are actually curious didn't mean to put someone down
In a lot of the C6 comoarison in this channel if I say charchter 1 is better than charchter 2 at C6 then it's most likely that Charchter 1 is also better at C0 that's for most of the charchter not all of them
but in this comparison specifically C0 results would be much different from C6
I'm really sorry if my long explaintion is offensive
Well despite all of what I said Tighnari is a good dps and I didn't lose the 50/50 to him I actually pulled him on his banner because I love his playstlye and he helped me a lot on abyss and this video is just enough reason of crazy Tighnari can be 😃 well Haitham abd Tighnari are different each one specialize at something one is better at multiple target the latter is better at single target both has their pros and cons like Tighnari is easier to play and has shorter cooldown less energy cost for burst
Again I'm sorry if what I said was offensive to any Tighnari main
And as you said people at the end should play who they prefer
By the way I myself shouldn't really talk about who is better because I pulled for Tighnari although Ganyu was on the next banber
Same thing with AlHaitham I pulled him although Hu tao is on the next banner
just because I love their playstyle more
Sorry I talk a lot
Tighnari is great because losing a 50/50 does not feel bad at all, even when I lost to him in the past banner I kinda like him, even more when I try it and after this is just better
The problem with nahida as DPS is that she can't use Nahida as support
my three babies i fucking love dendro man lmao i never went back after they introduced it
I know you're giving them optimal teams, but not really sure it's fair using one of the competitors to support the others- hard to distinguish how much of their faster time is THEIRS vs Nahida being a powerhouse off field as well as on
you people are genuinely delusional, do you understand what a support is? It's not abt char value, it's about DPS potential, and their optimal teams include Nahida, like it or not. She could be doing 90% of the dmg and it would still be their runs. Get over it.
@@heinzkohl7739 It's a "Tighnari vs Al Haitham vs Nahida" comparison in "who is the best Dendro DPS", it doesn't make sense to use Nahida on all teams, it's just become "Tighnari & Nahida vs Al Haitham & Nahida vs Nahida" at this point.
@@heinzkohl7739 what? hes saying its kinda useless doing a dps showdown when hes using the same 5 star as a support to the 5 stars hes comparing that same 5 star too. doing a dps showdown with alhaitham vs nahida, then using a nahida with alhaitham, it become two 5 stars against one and its a meaningless showcase
@@felipekraus6049 dendro DPS with Nahida and 2 supps better than Nahida as a DPS with another 3 supps. GG get over it.
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 What is meaning? Are the meaning here was to showcase the DPS potential of each character IN and WITHOUT a team. 2 of them have her as a SUPPORT in their team. She as a DPS is WEAKER than them in teams where she is a SUPPORT. The meaning to showcase who is the best Dendro DAMAGE PER SECOND dealer has thus been fulfilled. You calling it meaningless bc your subhuman ape brain cannot differenciate between the VALUE of a char and their DPS potential in a full team won't change the result. GG get over it bozo.
i think not having other characters of a showdown in the teams would make the comparison better, personally i watch these to see which unit is worth summoning for which means i can only chose one, in my opinion Nahida shouldn't be used in the other teams to see how they actually perform in their own team without the others help
you should do scara, yoimiya and ayato the normal attack queens and queens
Yoimiya + Yelan combo will beat everything.
@@bshthrasher not in aoe
@@bshthrasher that yelan dmg not yoimiya dmg💀
@@fumiko203, I guess you need to check information before you say it :)
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@@restart6358, you don't really need AOE against bosses, other enemies don't have much HP in this game)
4:44 until the actual content starts...
Love from India ❤️ keep doing videos like this
Lol literally my three favorite characters in the game. My experience as someone who has crowned all of them (triple crowned Alhaitham, Double crowned Tighnari, and Crowned Nahida)
Tighnari is best for boss killing (and best standard character)
Alhaitham is the best dps (probably the best in the game at c0/low investment)
Nahida is the best sub dps/support and will make any dendro team a lot stronger (arguably the strongest character in general rn)
Its really cool that tighnari, a standard character, can beat alhaitham and the dendro ARCHON.
A W character for sure.
C6 R5 with said archon with C6 R5 too as a support tho 😭😭😭
You do realise nahida is helping the others?
no shit captain obvious, she is meant to be a support. as a c0 the only W he got is for exploration lmao
No the abyss comparision is bad. Nahida >> Yelan as a spread support. Nahida hitting 40k+ AoE damage in Alhaitham and TIghnari team.
To be fair, all of the times were so close I don’t think anybody won here. Plus they’re all C6 R5 so they’re all unrealistically powerful.
I have been using Tighnari since I pulled him as my main dps and wanted so bad for someone to compare him with Al Haitham, thanks!
Not a good comparison because he is just straight up worse than him at c0
@@planetbefall4744 fax
Tighnari is not worse. hes better for 1 enemy or few enemies @@planetbefall4744
Running Nahida in all 3 teams doesn't seem fair, and in my mind makes this a Tighnari vs Alhaitham vs Yelan comparison instead.
it is fair tho because she is the best dendro support by far
This is more like Nahida with fluffy ear vs Nahida with Dendro Keqing vs Nahida alone
Nahida is forever the best for me! ♥
Even though this is c6 showcase, it makes me feel slightly better that I lost 50/50 to Tighnari on Alhaitham's banner.
I loooove tighnari
I was actually surprised at how competitive Tighnari was vs Alhaitham. Probably because my Tighnari is still searching for an artifact set to get me over 170% CD
no
If this was a C0 showcase, i wonder how worse will both Nahida and Tighnari be compared to Alhaitham
I have 3 of them 2 of them are well built tignari C0 r1 nahida C0 r1 but alhaitham C0 (Hod) r5 is not properly built
And base on experience tignari is really strong in single target the only down side is his CD but alhaitham is really good in multitarget and single target too despite using a 3 star weapon
And about nahida I didn't build her as a dps so she can't compete to them
Hmm call me biased but I think in terms of c0 alhaitham is stronger than tignari but in c6 tignhari is stronger cuz of the his CD fixed in c6 meaning he can do more dmg than alhaitham in short amount of time but in mobs I think alhaitham can win if his c6 too
ofc lol nahida kit at c0 is focused on sub dps/support while tighnari and alhaitham are focused on main dps role
@@kil1664 Yeah that's what i wanna know, how better than them is Alhaitham in spread teams at C0
Al is better at C0 then tig…you need his constellations for the damage buffs
Since he's using C6 Alhaitham, he could've done better against the dorito. Should've used hold E + instant plunge to get 3 mirrors for his Burst. He only had 2 for it. 2nd thing, he could've switched back to nahida for N1E or Mona for N1E(Hyperbloom), then switch back to Alhaitham for restored mirrors. Idk if he'd beat Tighnari's time, but he'd certainly be closer to it.
if you do it like this it won’t trigger the c6 effect~ if you E+plunge then Q, you will consume the 3 mirrors to open a long Q and then you will get back 3 mirrors, C6 needs to have the 4th mirror only will proc, so what he did is E > Q then charged attack so he could get a mid Q, get back 3 mirrors and CA to proc the 4th mirror
Hands down Nahida is the best
"Excessive amounts of Yelan makes people upset?" Oh no, I guess I will piss a lot of people off once her rerun starts.
Finally Nahida gets one. I wish she went against Yelan, though.
won’t even be close lol
C6 solo Yelan will just do the job
C6 Yelan top side is copium because of the electro aura in 12-1-1 that bricks her damage. She'd clear at least 15s slower than these 3.
@@Makiiiii24 electro aura is so easy to get rid of with a full team rotation tf u talking about😂 if it was a solo run i can understand
@@shentobento1079 as someone with both, you might want to rethink your assessment. Depending on how many enemies there are and how spread out they are, Nahida could do better.
Tighnari still remains one of my funnest and most powerful characters. He doesn’t have god-like artifacts, however using him with fischl, kazuha/venti and kokomi is always a blast
Tighnari is expensive to build but he is a character with high invest-high reward character.
He’s my favourite character to play. I have all three and I main him all the time.
Friendly reminder that Tighnari is a standard banner character.
Tighnari's c6 IS NO JOKE. It's so broken compared to other standard characters c6. Being able to quickly charge a shot AND give you a bonus clusterbloom that deals a lot of damage sounds "ok" on paper, but in practice it annihilates everything.
Just another reason why I'm so happy he's a standard character. Atleast I'm more likely to get his constellations! (Still Tighnari-less tho)
The newer units have better constellation IMO
I remember when people told me I was stupid for pulling for Tighnari
I think they said that more because he was going to be permanent on standard banner. I don't think I've heard people saying he was bad. But tbh it's terrible to call anyone stupid anyway, so they shouldn't have said it like that.
@@FairyKit They said it because they thought he was bad hahahah.
Thanks btw, nice pfp
@@ValentijnEnJack Oh then they really didn't know what they were saying xD (this is why I don't listen to doom posters) and thank you!! Your pfp is cool, too!
yes you are (if it was a guarantee )otherwise 👌
@@nero9175 no
I feel like this showcase can be safely viewed as "How does a DPS Nahida team fair against Nahida being in the support role" As shes one of the best in slots for the others aswell, removing her from their teams wouldn't solve the problem of this being "unfair" to some people because of course, Tighnari's and, Alheithm's damage would suffer because they strictly need Nahida to succeed... Nahida doesnt need to win this "Brunt DPS Output Challenge" The fact that she can get this close to the other characters times being ON HER OWN while still being able to be the best Dendro reaction enabler is spectacular in of its self.
Alhaitham is very overrated. i think people who were saving for him because it was the trend are just trying to cope ngl
Is it really a dps comparison when one of the contestants are helping the other two...?