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@@Meese12 i have done many of these and maintaining energy is usually a pain, you spend like 30-40 seconds just bullying the last mob on floor to make sure everyone are full energy for next floor. I am more or less sure he would never do this on floor 12-3-2 because wolflord is terrible for collecting energy, and the floor 12-3-2 is obnoxious aswell
Which means her 11 second clear time could be less if she's switched out early. Since boss's max hp is 1.6M and Eula's burst just need to do like 1.4M or so since rest is done by her hold E.
@@chaengmygirl If i were to say , if his Bennet wasn't c6 and he switched out Eula early then her run would be like 8-9s. Even with Bennet c6 if he only switched out early her run still would 9-10s since a C6 Eula's Normal atk dmg is like just 10% of her total dmg
Yeah, I'm just ignoring the runs where Ayaka and Yelan were used as "supports", when they did half the damage. I'm sorry, but Hu Tao Ayaka is not a normal team comp. Sure, it's great for nuking bosses for 10 seconds. But after that, Hu Tao does no damage without any constant Hydro or Cryo application. Everyone and their mother are playing Hu Tao with Xingqiu/Yelan or both. We're supposed to rate actual meta teams and see how they do against each other, not borrow broken characters like Ayaka and Yelan and then praise a different character from the team as the reason the team did so well, when it's not true at all
@@Gennosuke1983 I guess you forgot the Speedrun part of the video 🤡 if you want to see actual team comps, look at his videos of each character individually
The Real MVP of this showcase is Bennett and Kazuha. But I'm really impressed with how strong the C6 yelan is. That's a dream. Me who always finish the Abyss in like 07:01 left: Wow cool.
It was the same with hutao tbh, this boss is really annoying for pyro dps so having ayaka there helps even tho she did like half the dmg for both of them, that and im pretty sure that kaeya on the first showdow was butchered to hell and back, mine can deal 22k per hit and 50k when it melts and im f2p so it kinda hurt my eyes to see him doing noodle dmg by a whale
@@ola20004 yeah he did another run with a proper build and it took 15 sec. They always do diluc dirty. Especially iwtl. He hates diluc and loves lolies.
And it pisses me off so much from a whale perspective she is by many orders of magnitude better than many C6 5 star I have and I don't like yelen so I won't pull for her. Considering this game has no pvp or leaderboard people that pays for c6 are basically like paying for first class on a flight the difference being someone just randomly get zero class just because fuck you
@@bluepul9140 what the hell? If you don't like her, then don't pull for her. However, if she's a strong character gameplay wise, but you don't fancy her personality and thus aren't going to get her, it's stupid to get upset, don't you think?
@@amosp9411 What the hell? In what universe if I don't pull her am I not allowed to complain? Am I not a (high) paying customer? Unfairness is at the very root of human conflict. I paid 2000 dollars for Hu Tao C6 which barely does anything, while the C6 on yelan is literally the most broken shit in this game.
This Abyss is the first time I've regretted not getting Kokomi for, as the second half of the 12-3 is pure nightmare fuel. Never in my Genshin career I struggled so hard trying to finish it. But in the end, I only managed to get 33 stars lol
I got her accidentally and Im so grateful and happy to have her. She is so valuable and I only have her talents at 6 because im too lazy to farm specters Xd
I'm F2p AR 57 and did it with barbruh, xiangling, kazuha and nahida, I had to 3 star the 2nd chamber first with a different team then restart with this team since it was impossible to do the 2nd chamber without geo for me Edit: I finally built 2 teams that can clear the abyss without changing teams (note that I didn’t make any pulls since, I just farmed gilded dreams set for raiden) 1st half:xingqiu,xiangling,bennet,kazuha 2nd half: nahida,barbara,raiden,zhongli I used full EM gilded dreams set +dragons bane on raiden. Hyperbloom is broken, I cleared it with low-mid difficulty
Ayaka, Hutao, Ganyu, Raiden again expectedly doing well still. Then got really impressed of Wanderer here he is the only one with only 4star supports here. Lastly, got disappointed Ayato didn't really shine here or should I say not given a chance to show-off I believe Ayato can all do well without Yelan 😅😅😅
@@Gin2341 which is good in a way. Eula literally bursts everything down solo and four star bursts take less time as there is no animation compared to some of the five star animations
@@TheRabbitsaver Eula need to build up stacks to increase her burst damage but if you paired her with another DPS character to reduce 1/3 to 1/2 HP of the target then she won't need to waste time doing too many auto attacks.
@@Gin2341 I mean best case you can pair her with Yelan but even then that team can't beat 6 seconds. Burst animations already for both need 4-5 seconds. Ayaka Tao combo usually will remain on top. As for Eula I'm really not sure if it would be faster pairing her with anyone except her dedicated four star supports
@@playmobilegamescodm lol Yelan has more than twice the amount of HP XQ has.. so she counters that with the sheer quantity of it… Plus you must be extremely bad at playing if it makes it hard for u to play her💀… she’s one of the tankier characters out there
Craziest thing is, Yelan who doesn't work with Bennet, and whose passive gives her increased damage over time, is still so high. So she could actually be potentially better.
I don't get what's so hard to decide lol. Is Yelan the main DPS of the team? Use all she has. Is Yelan the support in the team? Use her E and Q. Same goes for Ayaka, if she's main DPS, use everything. Otherwise, just clicking her Burst button already invalidates any test. Not only is she doing half the boss HP, she also reduces defense further boosting Hu Tao or Diluc's damage. Without Ayaka, Hu Tao would be way lower and we already saw how low Diluc was without her. Never use main DPS skills on your supports, it's that simple, not rocket science, otherwise the main DPS role shifts from the one showcased to the "support"
@@Gennosuke1983 exactly, he keeps using yelan to obliterate 75% of the enemies hp when it's supposed to be a showcase of someone else so if i do an aloy showcase by only using her skill once and then proceed to kill everyone with some other op characters can i call that an aloy showcase? heck no!
@@Gennosuke1983Problem with your logic is, Yelan E and Q still makes her an “off field damage dealer”, chipping away 25-40% of boss health by herself. Same with other teams shown here (Ayaka/Hu Tao, Nahida/Yae, Childe/Xiangling, etc.). It’s bad to think of assigning “roles” to your characters in a team, realistically only hypercarry teams have a clear distinction of “roles”.
@@lehang5840 There's no problem with my logic. That's how Yelan works, she's an off field support DPS. Same as Xingqiu, same as Xiangling. Are you supposed to not use them at all? Of course you should use their E and Q. The issue is when the support does equal or MORE damage than the main DPS and you still call it a Diluc showcase or Kokomi showcase, when they barely tickle the enemy and Yelan or Ayaka did all the work. Also, why doesn't he add Yelan and Ayaka to all teams? I can guarantee you that Xiao would do a lot better if you randomly add Ayaka's burst there, Keqing would do better, even Raiden hypercarry would be stronger if Yelan or Ayaka would replace Sara. I'm 100% sure, she would gain 3 seconds at least, because boss with be 50% dead and then Raiden would just finish the job with her slash. Why bend the rules only for some teams like Hu Tao, Diluc, Kokomi while keeping the other teams classic meta? Who in their right mind would play Diluc with Ayaka?
@@Gennosuke1983 See, this is why “main dps” and “support” are bad terms for how vague they are. For instance, why using Ayaka burst with Diluc and not with Xiao? Because while Ayaka provides great damage, her C4 allows Diluc to melt with his high multipliers and fast attack speed through cons, in contrast to Xiao, who benefits nothing more than Ayaka def reduction, which can end up falling behind Diluc with the same team due to much less synergy. Also, remind you that this is a speed run showcase for the funsies, you would expect not so meta teams “competing” with each other.
I don’t think so. The hydro region you might get a lot of hydro res enemies where she will fall short or get nerfed for the future hydro characters like the hydro archon.
@@sugax6510 I am pretty sure they will release someone better than Yelan because Raiden was op before her. Do you bet 100$ on it? I have cash app or Venmo.
Seeing Yoimiya right under Raiden reminded me of when people called her "mid", "trash" and "non meta" when she was released but my girl over here winning after the fandom and hoyo did her dirty so many times. The irony of Yoimiya right next to Raiden just like their release banners had me crying tho
Wanderer is definitely another f2p team. I use Wanderer c0, Faruzan c0, Bennett c0 and Xingqiu c1 (all 4 stars) and I do the abyss decently well! You can say that the harbingers are definitely the most f2p friendly units in the game.
@@Thatguy-nh4by maybe he's talking about the sucrose variant... well regardless both harbingers use Bennett whose a secret 6 star character, so no point arguing.
Even though it's nice to know which C6 character has the best teams, it's still something that 99% of the playerbase will never experience. I wish u showcased these kinds of videos with C0 characters, even though that's gonna be hard if u own every character C6.
The quality of his videos are going to skyrocket if Mihoyo ever adds the ability to turn off Constellations. No one does damage comparisons like he does.
Childe international enjoyers would like to disagree... Apart from c2 kazuha international doesn't gain a lot from c6 on Childe and you can get C6 Bennett and Xiangling over time
I feel like Yoimiya is still such an underrated main dps. She’s pretty easy to build and her floor is quite high still. Maybe not top tier but she is amazing.
Yoimiya fell victim to Mhy being afraid of powercreep to the point of gimping all aspects of her kit. She's the best at nothing, not even single target dps which is her biggest limitation. When an AOE character can outdamage a single target character ON A SINGLE target, you know balance is fked. Why did they make her burst so damn bad? One look at Hu Tao and you will know life aint fair.
What did we learn. Start building your Bannett and save for Kazuha. Joking aside Yelan and Shenhe’s C6 just breaks the ceiling. Yes shenhe’s C6 is not necessarily something that breaks genshin but when we actually think of what it could have done it’s intimidating.
@@Conf1rm I yeah I wasn't thinking. I just mentioned the two dps who weren't in the video. And since cyno relies on nahida I guess he wouldn't be great either
Everyone talking about Yelan while I just watch Kazuha on basically every single team being the best boy he is and remembering when people called him "expensive sucrose"
@@seeker777 what? Kazuha provides the same buff performance as Sucrose while having better personal damage and being one of if not the best overworld character in the game so he doesn't end up being only useful in abyss, unless you need an anemo driver (in which case maybe Heizou might actually be more well suited) I don't see a situation where sucrose overcomes Kazuha even at C0 and he is considerably better at elemental damage buffing which is a very flexible and useful thing to do
Honestly, Keqing's time is impressive not only because of the dendro resistance that hurts Nahida's sub-DPS capabilities, but also because Keqing's constellations are so much worse than most of the other 5-stars. Same with Xiao, considering this was single-target. And same with Diluc, but Ayaka carried that one lol.
@@gabdc3243 For high investment speedrun like this Sara's C6 outscales Fischl's Aggravate dmg due to it's frontloaded nature. Sara's burst is also a good amount of nuke sub-dps on bosses.
That's debatable, Sara's buff doesn't last very long and she doesn't get a lot of aggravated buffs unlike Fischl, not to mention the team with Fischl has the same performance as the team with Sara, and that's with Collei.
I actually really like this video, Most of them are just 1-3 seconds differences and it shows how balanced these characters actually are (at C6 that is)
Eula can one shot anything, but her highest damage team is not practical for a full abyss run, its why most Eula mains dont speed run anymore. great video as always.
its because it takes time to build up Eula's stacks to maximum(backloaded damage) while others do frontloaded damage. most players would prefer Ayaka since she does insane burst damage. and with Shenhe, you'll have 2 types of burst. kudos to Eula though. Actually, i am more surprised with Wanderer's clear and Yae's Clear time.
@@lsnexus2080 it's not the back loaded nature of her burst, it's because she doesn't have the buffs that allow her to keep the dps going after her burst. Eula has the scaling to do 100k/second with her normal attacks if she had the right support to buff her up, Ayaka with shenhe and kazuha can hit 90k/second, Eula with her current support options barely hits 35k/ second, and it's only because lack of good buffing support. The back loaded burst allows you to do things with Eula that are not possible with other characters, I don't see it as a con, just a different way to do damage that can be taken advantage of.
I actually really love this kinda video! Not only is it an informative look into how to build super focused teams but it's fun to see different people competing to get the best results.
I've always thought the international Childe team was a strong team for F2P only, but this video has open my eyes, maybe I should build my C6 XiangLing
@@Ben-vg6ox I think is because the main dps is a 4 star and Childe is not known for being the best dps 5 star, when I see a 4 star dps I just instantly think it's worse than any 5 star dps
@@jakeeller On top of things other people pointed (his NA and CA have separate ICD), his riptides have no effective ICD (its lower than 0.7 riptide cd) which is abnormal(fastest applyer fastest rxn) He outdps ayato in international even though ayato does wayy more dmg He even outperforms kokomi in quick bloom/bloom/hyperbloom team as he can produce more dendro cores but with no healing it's suicidal team. Tldr he will outperform any unit in rxn speed till the end of genshin.
I think another thing to note about Wanderer’s clear time is that his team, compared not only to the other SS tiers but to all the teams in general, is far less reliant on 5* constellations. For his team, the only c6 you need is his own (yes the four stars likely have r5 limited weapons such as elegy, but that is consistent throughout all runs so I will not be counting this fact). I would honestly say that Wanderer’s c6 is the most attainable “low spender” team if we assume you only want to whale for one c6.
the consideration of not using yelan c6 when you could is truly a wise choice. at least youve learned from people's critics which is very respectable! using yelan c6 will lose its meaning to these kind of showcase. This is a very good video! if possible i still kinda wanna see yoimiya performance in a melt or vape comp
He still used it, but also showed the time without it. However, using Ayaka with Diluc and Hu Tao also invalidates the entire test, since she does 50% of damage + shreds defense, so effectively she is responsible for 60%+ damage, which makes her the main DPS, no longer Diluc or Hu Tao
@@Gennosuke1983 Hu tao did more than 3/4's of the hp. It was a 1.2 million nuke. How about you delete kaz and bennet and see how the results turn out then. A lot of these teams fall into the gutter. Hu tao just needs xing and she would still get a S clear time.
@@rocketcider7761 She didn't do 3/4 because the defense shred helped her get that nuke, plus when Hu Tao's burst hits the boss is at half HP already, you can clearly see it. Also, if she's so good without Ayaka, then why not use Hu Tao with her normal team? Let's see what time she gets then. Also, adding Yelan or Ayaka to ANY other team would improve their times. For example, you could replace Sara in Raiden's hyper carry with Yelan or Ayaka, you will get a faster time, because Raiden alone can do half the nuke but she struggles to do the rest of the damage during her Burst. But the boss will be half dead from Ayaka+Bennett in the first 3 seconds and then Raiden will just finish the job. Why not use Yelan or Ayaka with Xiao, why struggle with him jumping around and get 20 second time, when others can do the DPS? Because it would be dumb, that's why. I hope I got my point across. Some teams like Raiden hyper carry or Childe International are kept in their meta format, while other teams are tailored made for this challenge, even if nobody plays Hu Tao Ayaka anywhere. The test is not relevant
@@Gennosuke1983 A standard hu tao comp would still pull a 12s time is my point. At whale level with C6 she would be doing 250k charge attacks. The amount of teams IWTL would have to go through would take way too much time, especially since he has to get to floor 12-3 every time. Most of these test don't even matter since the player base doesn't have a 100k usd account. These really only show what a character can do with a 10k usd team full of C6R5s. Though I wish more teams were tested, but again it takes a lot of time to put something like this together.
Ayaka's run can be much faster if you shortened her rotation by forgoing sprint+normal attack. You would still have enough damage for her skill to kill the boss.
I genuinely believe that putting fischl in keqing’s run would be better since Sara only have a 6 second uptime, even though it is a speed run, it wasn’t fast enough for sara’s buff to last the whole fight. Asides from that fischl is also very strong in aggravate teams.
I saw a 24s "non giga whale" run with Fischl against 3.0 chicken with 1.9 million HP. It was with C1 Collei and R1 5-star weapons. So I'm certain you're right.
My Itto uses the same team setup and clears the chicken in roughly 9-11 seconds For context- 70CR 281CD 2.5k Defense (without any buffs) C6 R5 I’m confident this is purely due to optimized artifacts since I spent all my resin farming for Itto, not farming optimal builds for every character in the game like this chad.
Iirc, you'll have to manually switch Itto for burst because it can full snapshot all the buffs. Using the shortcut key ctrl + "party number" misses the snapshot of all def buff
@@keneunaegbu851 tbh that's not an "itto strat" but just a genshin strat in general. Same thing applies to almost any other character that's being buffed by gorou/bennet
I've always suspected Yelan being Mhys love child and her soloing a boss with little set-up is basically proof. And that's why I use her in all my teams, she's just perfect(and I will get her to C6, well eventually)
When you realize Yelan was never meant to support Hu Tao or Yoi, and that they've been holding her back this whole time. Edit: Just started a war in the comments lol
why are you surprised that hes a pretentious youtuber trying to use his influence to hate on characters he doesnt like, this is why people dont take him seriously
@@kidsmipad8324 this wanderer used shime as I remember (too lazy to re-watch) and shime always stronger than echoes, also that casino mechanics and dependence on ping for the normal work of the set, so in case of his ultimate, his mechanics and stable result, actually chronicles still the best choice. It was calculated many times. Yeah echoes is top3 for his own dmg and if u already have good set no need for new one, but still. he is just as dependent on his signature artifacts set as Raiden is on her emblem .
@kids mipad tables with calculations in Russian, so I doubt that it will be convenient for you to navigate docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GkxWggv-RntG29ayOItseS1HiwQQ8cgjjR_8rwytX4A/edit?usp=drivesdk
Kokomi was listed under the “K” block. But if you’re going by alphabetical order based on the status screen names, then she should be between Raiden and Tartaglia. She isn’t single-name like Yoimiya and Sayu; the family name starts with an “ S.”
Love these kinds of videos. Would also love to see a c6 Nahida DPS showdown at some point. Like, Nahida vs Raiden would be fun. An Archon battle, so to speak.
This abyss made me really happy, as my Cyno is thriving on first half Cyno/Fischl/Xingqiu/Nahida c1 btw, got REALLY lucky. Both fish and xq c6, but im very much f2p and finished all chambers first half in under a minute.
Hu Tao needs a set of artifacts that she takes full advantage of, one focused on Damage based on Max Life, she also lacks a bennett that doesn't heal, like a niche pyro support like Gorou for Geo and Faruzan for anemo 
@@ahmadraif9989 in my view she does need it, she doesn't have her own set like others that she uses entirely, Crimson Witch she doesn't stack all, Shimenawa takes energy from Ultimate, lacks a set, and a pyro support that is for her what bennett is for the others, although all would benefit from a pyro support that buffs 60% Critical damage at C6, pyro resistance debuff and pyro bonus buff
@@xMomoee She doesn't need that for sure but I think it would be cool if she finally gets something. I don't like the idea of running the suboptimal sets and units. I know she has very powerful double hydro team (yelan/xingqiu/xiangling) but I would rather play her as the solo hypercarry with personal supports and a solid set that works fully with her kit. Like cmon, we have gorou/faruzan/sara/shenhe for other elements and bennett/yunjin/kazuha as universal units to use. Hu tao only cares about kazuha/sucrose and she cannot even use them without bringing other suboptimal pyro user.
I would love to see a C0 like this, because some characters like Itto and Childe dont get that much at c6, when others like Yelan, Ayaka, Hu Tao, do get muuuuuuuch better at c6.
in this type of showcase, Hu Tao don't get much at C6 as well, just consistency. You would run the same 300+ crit damage build with no crit rate and reset until it crits.
IWTL needs to STOP using Yelan C6 for any runs where she isn't the main character to showcase. It honestly just ruins the run and takes away the shine from the main character he wants to showcase.
guys look,,, my boy wanderer some mf still says he is bad...,, wanderer broken with faruzan or without faruzan,,, not only damage but also how easy and how fun to play,,,,, respect him,,,
Litteraly waifu impact, hu tao, ganyu and ayaka still best dps in the game and the closest husband to ever reaching them is scara good one but of course alongside there respective mvp supports kazuha, Bennet etc
The wolf doggos and the boss gave me a pretty hard time, good thing I got a C4 gorou this banner and managed to clear the second chamber with a mono geo team with Itto.
Interesting comparaison On a side note, that's cool and all, and I know your category is Whale-C6-Tier and you can't turn off const, but I would find interesting a C0 5 stars/C6 4 stars battle between all of them, that would give an other representation of the teams because the fight lasts longer and there will be more difference than few seconds probably
Like every character on their release with the best abyss buff for them? Lmao, he's just average in the best cases and of course this is C6 R5, the base Wanderer dont get even closer.
As much I like the showcase. I don't like how Ayaka and Yelan with Cons as "Support" overshadow the showcase on some. It felt rather unfair. The only fair use was with Hu Tao and Ayaka since she dealt the less damage here and Hu Tao dealt the most damage as a Hypercarry.
Can I just say that I really appreciate the puns and the effort you put in the edit of your videos? There's not a single text popping up on screen without a sound effect and I really love that!
T-T stop using yelan’s c6 please, we get that the run will be slower but the point is to showcase the characters’ DPS capabilities, not have other “supports” deal more than 50% of the DMG. Especially with yelan-in one of your Diluc showcases you almost exclusively used Yelan with Diluc just to finish the small remaining bit of health because it’d be faster, but that doesn’t actually show us how strong Diluc is. I want to know how strong my mains are at high potential (good artifacts, etc., not how strong other meta characters are
Alhaithem got nerfed like hell. Ever since I started looking at leaks way back in like 2.0 when inazuma was on verge of it's release. He didn't even get any changes, they just cut em scaling and NA scaling by a lot, especially for the elemental mastery where it was like 600% b4 and now it's like 170%
Thank you so much for the massive effort you put into your videos through and through, they are always well-edited and genuinely entertaining to watch. Another thing I liked is that despite all the hate before for using Yelan in previous videos, you kept on doing what you wanted without changing for others' sake, and I really respect that about you. Do take care of yourself and I hope you keep enjoying what you do.
Yelan is true love ❤️ I'm glad I have her , and soon I'll get raiden . No one will stop me in game to destroy all enemies then . My yelan at c0 doing 102k dmg lol.
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This guy had to clear 12-1 and 12-2 multiple times and had to fight the dreaded wolf-worm just so he could get to this chicken, now that's dedication.
i get bored to even repeat single floors lmao
Considering a "slow run" is anything below 24 seconds, ive gotta assume the lower floors didn't stand much of a chance. Wolf worm is hell though.
With whale account (c6 r5) i think it's just 1-2 minutes to get into 12-3-1
@@Meese12 keeping full energy and not having geo dmg for wolf heads is very annoying.
@@Meese12 i have done many of these and maintaining energy is usually a pain, you spend like 30-40 seconds just bullying the last mob on floor to make sure everyone are full energy for next floor.
I am more or less sure he would never do this on floor 12-3-2 because wolflord is terrible for collecting energy, and the floor 12-3-2 is obnoxious aswell
“Well…. Somewhat unsurprisingly, she’s able to go even faster…” Just Yelan’s antics striking once more-
It almost like if the character is not directly buffing her damage, they are just holding her back.
Should've went for a hypercarry vape yelan, c6 jean, c6 xiangling or benny and c6 mona
@@Hhhh22222-w by the time you are done with the setup 5-6 seconds would had already passed by.
@@Hhhh22222-w im planning on getting c6 yelan. Is that the go to team comp?
@@wk5863 C6 Yelan can clear content solo, you don't need any teammates for her
Eula doing her nuke job, giving 1.9M damage who makes a whole green chicken to chicken nugget.
it's more like smooshed chicken but hey.
eula is sole 5 star on that team so if ya patient enough to be able saving for her c6 anything possible man.
Which means her 11 second clear time could be less if she's switched out early.
Since boss's max hp is 1.6M and Eula's burst just need to do like 1.4M or so since rest is done by her hold E.
@@sensibleDuck893 ikr and the fact that she's paired with c6 bennett makes her NA's way weaker, She could have finished faster
@@chaengmygirl If i were to say , if his Bennet wasn't c6 and he switched out Eula early then her run would be like 8-9s.
Even with Bennet c6 if he only switched out early her run still would 9-10s since a C6 Eula's Normal atk dmg is like just 10% of her total dmg
technically, she froze it. It was hu tao who made a nugget
5:57 “thanks to ayaka’s defense shred diluc was able to clear it faster”
I’m sorry but Ayaka is doing way more than defense shred 💀
Yeah, in the notes it says Ayaka did half the damage.
Yeah, I'm just ignoring the runs where Ayaka and Yelan were used as "supports", when they did half the damage. I'm sorry, but Hu Tao Ayaka is not a normal team comp. Sure, it's great for nuking bosses for 10 seconds. But after that, Hu Tao does no damage without any constant Hydro or Cryo application. Everyone and their mother are playing Hu Tao with Xingqiu/Yelan or both. We're supposed to rate actual meta teams and see how they do against each other, not borrow broken characters like Ayaka and Yelan and then praise a different character from the team as the reason the team did so well, when it's not true at all
@@Gennosuke1983 it is a speed run video, what u expect? And c6 hutao mostly use for nuke anyways.
@@Gennosuke1983 I guess you forgot the Speedrun part of the video 🤡 if you want to see actual team comps, look at his videos of each character individually
@@Gennosuke1983 It's suppose to be a speed/nuke run, not a normal team run🤦♀️
id love to see the 4 star version of this, amazing video as always!
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The old school national gonna do great in this, as well as taser sucrose and hyperbloom Kuki, with faruzan-heizou dan gorou-noelle not far behind it,
@Santa Claus 🌲 bruh just give a rickroll instead
@@anandarifaldi3610 taser sucrose aint gonna do that good lmao its mainly for aoe plus beidou would suck against it
Wow!, in Abyss 12-3, and hadn't expected that wanderer were that good, loved seeing all comps at full potential ^^
The Real MVP of this showcase is Bennett and Kazuha. But I'm really impressed with how strong the C6 yelan is. That's a dream.
Me who always finish the Abyss in like 07:01 left: Wow cool.
Funny how its mentioned that ayaka did 50% of dilucs run but not how yelan did 90% of kokomis run.
It was the same with hutao tbh, this boss is really annoying for pyro dps so having ayaka there helps even tho she did like half the dmg for both of them, that and im pretty sure that kaeya on the first showdow was butchered to hell and back, mine can deal 22k per hit and 50k when it melts and im f2p so it kinda hurt my eyes to see him doing noodle dmg by a whale
@@ola20004 yeah he did another run with a proper build and it took 15 sec. They always do diluc dirty. Especially iwtl. He hates diluc and loves lolies.
I think it’s bc Kokomi’s runs were so far down the ranking it doesn’t really matter if it’s clarified or not.
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Yelan at c6 is definetly one of the most broken character mihoyo made considering she even came out during late game
And it pisses me off so much from a whale perspective she is by many orders of magnitude better than many C6 5 star I have and I don't like yelen so I won't pull for her.
Considering this game has no pvp or leaderboard people that pays for c6 are basically like paying for first class on a flight the difference being someone just randomly get zero class just because fuck you
@@bluepul9140 L yelan carries even at c0 r1
@@bluepul9140 what the hell? If you don't like her, then don't pull for her.
However, if she's a strong character gameplay wise, but you don't fancy her personality and thus aren't going to get her, it's stupid to get upset, don't you think?
@@amosp9411 What the hell? In what universe if I don't pull her am I not allowed to complain? Am I not a (high) paying customer?
Unfairness is at the very root of human conflict. I paid 2000 dollars for Hu Tao C6 which barely does anything, while the C6 on yelan is literally the most broken shit in this game.
@@bluepul9140since the game has no pvp or competitive rank system, why do you even care
This Abyss is the first time I've regretted not getting Kokomi for, as the second half of the 12-3 is pure nightmare fuel. Never in my Genshin career I struggled so hard trying to finish it. But in the end, I only managed to get 33 stars lol
I got her accidentally and Im so grateful and happy to have her. She is so valuable and I only have her talents at 6 because im too lazy to farm specters Xd
I'm F2p AR 57 and did it with barbruh, xiangling, kazuha and nahida, I had to 3 star the 2nd chamber first with a different team then restart with this team since it was impossible to do the 2nd chamber without geo for me
Edit: I finally built 2 teams that can clear the abyss without changing teams (note that I didn’t make any pulls since, I just farmed gilded dreams set for raiden)
1st half:xingqiu,xiangling,bennet,kazuha
2nd half: nahida,barbara,raiden,zhongli
I used full EM gilded dreams set +dragons bane on raiden. Hyperbloom is broken, I cleared it with low-mid difficulty
I use itto mono geo and only rely on gorou's c4 for healing , they're on red hp at the end but its fine
What ur laking is aoe damage and grouping, not healing.
i did it with Barbara hyperbloom
Ayaka, Hutao, Ganyu, Raiden again expectedly doing well still. Then got really impressed of Wanderer here he is the only one with only 4star supports here. Lastly, got disappointed Ayato didn't really shine here or should I say not given a chance to show-off I believe Ayato can all do well without Yelan 😅😅😅
Ayato was cheated lol
He should have tried hyper Ayato but I guess to lazy to farm artis
Eula has only 4* supports as well unlike the other party comp with double 5* DPS
@@Gin2341 which is good in a way. Eula literally bursts everything down solo and four star bursts take less time as there is no animation compared to some of the five star animations
@@TheRabbitsaver Eula need to build up stacks to increase her burst damage but if you paired her with another DPS character to reduce 1/3 to 1/2 HP of the target then she won't need to waste time doing too many auto attacks.
@@Gin2341 I mean best case you can pair her with Yelan but even then that team can't beat 6 seconds. Burst animations already for both need 4-5 seconds. Ayaka Tao combo usually will remain on top. As for Eula I'm really not sure if it would be faster pairing her with anyone except her dedicated four star supports
Kazuha and benny are consistent as ever
"Yelan is just a taller xingqiu, she doesn't even have resistance to interruption"
Yelan: you don't need resistance when they are dead
but gameplay becomes very hard for casual players
Only with C6 lol
@@playmobilegamescodm huh why?
@@tusharsrivastava370 because you die easily
@@playmobilegamescodm lol Yelan has more than twice the amount of HP XQ has.. so she counters that with the sheer quantity of it… Plus you must be extremely bad at playing if it makes it hard for u to play her💀… she’s one of the tankier characters out there
Yelan and wanderer just blew my mind and nothing to say about hu tao
Yelan c6 is too broken to be called sub dps and hutao will always be hutao slapping the shit out of them
Craziest thing is, Yelan who doesn't work with Bennet, and whose passive gives her increased damage over time, is still so high. So she could actually be potentially better.
"This is the problem of having Yelan in your team, because you have to decide whether you either use her C6 or not"
The problem we'd all like to have.
I don't get what's so hard to decide lol.
Is Yelan the main DPS of the team? Use all she has.
Is Yelan the support in the team? Use her E and Q.
Same goes for Ayaka, if she's main DPS, use everything. Otherwise, just clicking her Burst button already invalidates any test. Not only is she doing half the boss HP, she also reduces defense further boosting Hu Tao or Diluc's damage. Without Ayaka, Hu Tao would be way lower and we already saw how low Diluc was without her.
Never use main DPS skills on your supports, it's that simple, not rocket science, otherwise the main DPS role shifts from the one showcased to the "support"
@@Gennosuke1983 exactly, he keeps using yelan to obliterate 75% of the enemies hp when it's supposed to be a showcase of someone else
so if i do an aloy showcase by only using her skill once and then proceed to kill everyone with some other op characters can i call that an aloy showcase? heck no!
@@Gennosuke1983Problem with your logic is, Yelan E and Q still makes her an “off field damage dealer”, chipping away 25-40% of boss health by herself. Same with other teams shown here (Ayaka/Hu Tao, Nahida/Yae, Childe/Xiangling, etc.). It’s bad to think of assigning “roles” to your characters in a team, realistically only hypercarry teams have a clear distinction of “roles”.
@@lehang5840 There's no problem with my logic. That's how Yelan works, she's an off field support DPS. Same as Xingqiu, same as Xiangling. Are you supposed to not use them at all? Of course you should use their E and Q.
The issue is when the support does equal or MORE damage than the main DPS and you still call it a Diluc showcase or Kokomi showcase, when they barely tickle the enemy and Yelan or Ayaka did all the work.
Also, why doesn't he add Yelan and Ayaka to all teams? I can guarantee you that Xiao would do a lot better if you randomly add Ayaka's burst there, Keqing would do better, even Raiden hypercarry would be stronger if Yelan or Ayaka would replace Sara. I'm 100% sure, she would gain 3 seconds at least, because boss with be 50% dead and then Raiden would just finish the job with her slash.
Why bend the rules only for some teams like Hu Tao, Diluc, Kokomi while keeping the other teams classic meta?
Who in their right mind would play Diluc with Ayaka?
@@Gennosuke1983 See, this is why “main dps” and “support” are bad terms for how vague they are. For instance, why using Ayaka burst with Diluc and not with Xiao? Because while Ayaka provides great damage, her C4 allows Diluc to melt with his high multipliers and fast attack speed through cons, in contrast to Xiao, who benefits nothing more than Ayaka def reduction, which can end up falling behind Diluc with the same team due to much less synergy.
Also, remind you that this is a speed run showcase for the funsies, you would expect not so meta teams “competing” with each other.
Ayaka and Yelan are definitely 2 of the most units in this game
This video only strengthened my resolve to get C6 Yelan someday lmaooo
C6 Yelan is the best, idk if I spend more she herself solo everything
I don’t think so. The hydro region you might get a lot of hydro res enemies where she will fall short or get nerfed for the future hydro characters like the hydro archon.
@@Sam.jr0 if u think that mihoyo will release a C6 more busted than yelan then we can collectively uninstall the game
@@sugax6510 I am pretty sure they will release someone better than Yelan because Raiden was op before her. Do you bet 100$ on it? I have cash app or Venmo.
and? then what? you one shot abyss in 15seconds and then you have squat to do for the rest of 17days.... waste of pulls at that point
Finally, a Diluc showdown that isn't a Yelan showdown
unfortunately i
diluc is misrepresented here, shintenzu made a new video where he actually melts diluc's hits and got 15 seconds
Everyone kept saying wanderer is “mid” . Guy out here doing his thing with just 4 star supports 😂
Seeing Yoimiya right under Raiden reminded me of when people called her "mid", "trash" and "non meta" when she was released but my girl over here winning after the fandom and hoyo did her dirty so many times. The irony of Yoimiya right next to Raiden just like their release banners had me crying tho
It should also be noted that Childe's team is the only reasonably F2P team in the S to SS range since you only need c0 childe and kazuha for it
Wanderer is definitely another f2p team.
I use Wanderer c0, Faruzan c0, Bennett c0 and Xingqiu c1 (all 4 stars) and I do the abyss decently well!
You can say that the harbingers are definitely the most f2p friendly units in the game.
Is very interesting to see that wanderer was the only team on the SS Rank without a second 5 star
Well childe internasional can do that to actually, i already check in golden house speedrun
@@rafinoviltioputra3662 childe international has kazuha as a 5* tho
who considers xiangling and bennett 4* lmao
C6 Faruzan in his team is arguably worth 2 C0 5 stars in how expensive she is to pull.
@@Thatguy-nh4by maybe he's talking about the sucrose variant... well regardless both harbingers use Bennett whose a secret 6 star character, so no point arguing.
Even though it's nice to know which C6 character has the best teams, it's still something that 99% of the playerbase will never experience.
I wish u showcased these kinds of videos with C0 characters, even though that's gonna be hard if u own every character C6.
The quality of his videos are going to skyrocket if Mihoyo ever adds the ability to turn off Constellations. No one does damage comparisons like he does.
yeah but looking at c6 is more entertaining
Yeah everyone just has C0 5⭐ . C6 5⭐ results don't matter.
Childe international enjoyers would like to disagree...
Apart from c2 kazuha international doesn't gain a lot from c6 on Childe and you can get C6 Bennett and Xiangling over time
@@GGABueno true. I wish there was a way to turn off constellations so i can see c0 iwtl showcase
I feel like Yoimiya is still such an underrated main dps. She’s pretty easy to build and her floor is quite high still. Maybe not top tier but she is amazing.
She aite
Yes if you have her other wise no 😆
Yoimiya fell victim to Mhy being afraid of powercreep to the point of gimping all aspects of her kit. She's the best at nothing, not even single target dps which is her biggest limitation. When an AOE character can outdamage a single target character ON A SINGLE target, you know balance is fked. Why did they make her burst so damn bad? One look at Hu Tao and you will know life aint fair.
wdym underrated? a lot of people use her now and shes well known as some of the best boss killers.
@@zippo718 indeed
What did we learn. Start building your Bannett and save for Kazuha.
Joking aside Yelan and Shenhe’s C6 just breaks the ceiling. Yes shenhe’s C6 is not necessarily something that breaks genshin but when we actually think of what it could have done it’s intimidating.
I wonder where Cyno and Tighnari would fit in this.
Cabbage has high dendro res, so there no fit for dendro carry(there no buer in tests too). But I dunno why he forgor about razor pro max.
Cyno may do well since his hyperbloom teams are quite good considering how high his abyss usage has been this abyss cycle.
My Cyno clears this in about 15s, my tighnari is sadly not built yet but as the big green nugget really resists dendro, probably wouldnt do so well
Cyno would probably be similar to yae, maybe a little faster
@@Conf1rm I yeah I wasn't thinking. I just mentioned the two dps who weren't in the video. And since cyno relies on nahida I guess he wouldn't be great either
I find it surprising that someone like eula can compete in a game that punishes physical damage while rewarding elemental reactions
Yes, cause her kit is literally broken at C6
Her kit is broken at c6
just read her kit and look at her c6, shes is dealing at least 4500% MV with her burst at c6
Everyone talking about Yelan while I just watch Kazuha on basically every single team being the best boy he is and remembering when people called him "expensive sucrose"
no sucrose was used in this video
ouch!
He is still expensive Sucrose. Tbf this is whale showcase and Kazuha c2+ powercreeped Sucrose.
C6 Sucrose and C0 Kazuha are considered side grades for reaction teams.
Kazuha C0 < C6 sucrose, mind you Kazuha is 5* limited whereas Sucrose is mere 4*. What he used is C6 kazuha
@@seeker777 what? Kazuha provides the same buff performance as Sucrose while having better personal damage and being one of if not the best overworld character in the game so he doesn't end up being only useful in abyss, unless you need an anemo driver (in which case maybe Heizou might actually be more well suited) I don't see a situation where sucrose overcomes Kazuha even at C0 and he is considerably better at elemental damage buffing which is a very flexible and useful thing to do
8:58 ayato after dealing only 10% damage to chicken : our run
Yelan is on another level fr.
and as always another amazing video, we really appreciate your hard work and thank you for these kind of videos
yelan c6 yeah
Baizhu legit gonna be stronger than nahida, calling it now.
Stronger than Nahida in what aspect?
C6
Bro spam C6 nahida vs C6 yelan we need to see it
Honestly, Keqing's time is impressive not only because of the dendro resistance that hurts Nahida's sub-DPS capabilities, but also because Keqing's constellations are so much worse than most of the other 5-stars. Same with Xiao, considering this was single-target. And same with Diluc, but Ayaka carried that one lol.
And he wasn’t using fishal also one of her best teammates
@@gabdc3243 For high investment speedrun like this Sara's C6 outscales Fischl's Aggravate dmg due to it's frontloaded nature. Sara's burst is also a good amount of nuke sub-dps on bosses.
Same with hutao with the same logic
That's debatable, Sara's buff doesn't last very long and she doesn't get a lot of aggravated buffs unlike Fischl, not to mention the team with Fischl has the same performance as the team with Sara, and that's with Collei.
Burgeon Diluc is wayy better than Standard Diluc lol
Just look at those Benett + Kazuha charts! Good job!
I actually really like this video, Most of them are just 1-3 seconds differences and it shows how balanced these characters actually are (at C6 that is)
Eula can one shot anything, but her highest damage team is not practical for a full abyss run, its why most Eula mains dont speed run anymore. great video as always.
its because it takes time to build up Eula's stacks to maximum(backloaded damage) while others do frontloaded damage. most players would prefer Ayaka since she does insane burst damage. and with Shenhe, you'll have 2 types of burst. kudos to Eula though. Actually, i am more surprised with Wanderer's clear and Yae's Clear time.
@@lsnexus2080 it's not the back loaded nature of her burst, it's because she doesn't have the buffs that allow her to keep the dps going after her burst. Eula has the scaling to do 100k/second with her normal attacks if she had the right support to buff her up, Ayaka with shenhe and kazuha can hit 90k/second, Eula with her current support options barely hits 35k/ second, and it's only because lack of good buffing support.
The back loaded burst allows you to do things with Eula that are not possible with other characters, I don't see it as a con, just a different way to do damage that can be taken advantage of.
I actually really love this kinda video! Not only is it an informative look into how to build super focused teams but it's fun to see different people competing to get the best results.
I've always thought the international Childe team was a strong team for F2P only, but this video has open my eyes, maybe I should build my C6 XiangLing
why did u think that? because childe cons is bad?
@@Ben-vg6ox I think is because the main dps is a 4 star and Childe is not known for being the best dps 5 star, when I see a 4 star dps I just instantly think it's worse than any 5 star dps
@@Ben-vg6ox yes his cons are bad 👎 at max u get 40% dmg improvement with quality of life benefits.
@@jakeeller On top of things other people pointed (his NA and CA have separate ICD), his riptides have no effective ICD (its lower than 0.7 riptide cd) which is abnormal(fastest applyer fastest rxn)
He outdps ayato in international even though ayato does wayy more dmg He even outperforms kokomi in quick bloom/bloom/hyperbloom team as he can produce more dendro cores but with no healing it's suicidal team. Tldr he will outperform any unit in rxn speed till the end of genshin.
yea Xiangling is easily the best Pyro DPS in the game and one of the best DPS/Damage Supports overall too
damn c6 itto can take the privilege of being used inefficiently and still destroy
At best he can do is 14-15sec
I think another thing to note about Wanderer’s clear time is that his team, compared not only to the other SS tiers but to all the teams in general, is far less reliant on 5* constellations. For his team, the only c6 you need is his own (yes the four stars likely have r5 limited weapons such as elegy, but that is consistent throughout all runs so I will not be counting this fact). I would honestly say that Wanderer’s c6 is the most attainable “low spender” team if we assume you only want to whale for one c6.
> the only c6 you need is his own
No. That's a c6 Faruzan. You are free to check how stacked Faruzan's singular constellation number 6 is.
@@Eanki_ If you go for c6 Wanderer u'll get c6 Faruzan anyway
@@ScapinLeScap debatable. Ive heard of a player that got C6 wanderer and C6 itto and only got C3 faruzan
@@pinkinglily6447 Of course, there is always some people getting shafted
Abyss Blessing: Adios
So proud of my girl yoimiya!!
And yelan is crazy she is more cracked than some dps characters who actually just hold her back😭
the consideration of not using yelan c6 when you could is truly a wise choice. at least youve learned from people's critics which is very respectable! using yelan c6 will lose its meaning to these kind of showcase. This is a very good video!
if possible i still kinda wanna see yoimiya performance in a melt or vape comp
He still used it, but also showed the time without it. However, using Ayaka with Diluc and Hu Tao also invalidates the entire test, since she does 50% of damage + shreds defense, so effectively she is responsible for 60%+ damage, which makes her the main DPS, no longer Diluc or Hu Tao
@@Gennosuke1983 Hu tao did more than 3/4's of the hp. It was a 1.2 million nuke. How about you delete kaz and bennet and see how the results turn out then. A lot of these teams fall into the gutter. Hu tao just needs xing and she would still get a S clear time.
@@rocketcider7761 She didn't do 3/4 because the defense shred helped her get that nuke, plus when Hu Tao's burst hits the boss is at half HP already, you can clearly see it.
Also, if she's so good without Ayaka, then why not use Hu Tao with her normal team? Let's see what time she gets then. Also, adding Yelan or Ayaka to ANY other team would improve their times. For example, you could replace Sara in Raiden's hyper carry with Yelan or Ayaka, you will get a faster time, because Raiden alone can do half the nuke but she struggles to do the rest of the damage during her Burst. But the boss will be half dead from Ayaka+Bennett in the first 3 seconds and then Raiden will just finish the job.
Why not use Yelan or Ayaka with Xiao, why struggle with him jumping around and get 20 second time, when others can do the DPS? Because it would be dumb, that's why.
I hope I got my point across. Some teams like Raiden hyper carry or Childe International are kept in their meta format, while other teams are tailored made for this challenge, even if nobody plays Hu Tao Ayaka anywhere. The test is not relevant
@@Gennosuke1983 A standard hu tao comp would still pull a 12s time is my point. At whale level with C6 she would be doing 250k charge attacks. The amount of teams IWTL would have to go through would take way too much time, especially since he has to get to floor 12-3 every time. Most of these test don't even matter since the player base doesn't have a 100k usd account. These really only show what a character can do with a 10k usd team full of C6R5s. Though I wish more teams were tested, but again it takes a lot of time to put something like this together.
@@rocketcider7761 hu tao would definatelty clear this in 12 secs or less but she wasnt making close to 6 secs tbh
Great job packing so much info on the characters, teams, and runs into 20 minutes. This was a a great addition to a this type of challenge videos.
Ayaka's run can be much faster if you shortened her rotation by forgoing sprint+normal attack. You would still have enough damage for her skill to kill the boss.
the abyssal moon buff is really something for a few characters, and i believe Raiden can't utilizes the buff... on this speed run
I genuinely believe that putting fischl in keqing’s run would be better since Sara only have a 6 second uptime, even though it is a speed run, it wasn’t fast enough for sara’s buff to last the whole fight. Asides from that fischl is also very strong in aggravate teams.
I saw a 24s "non giga whale" run with Fischl against 3.0 chicken with 1.9 million HP. It was with C1 Collei and R1 5-star weapons. So I'm certain you're right.
Remember guys meta doesn't matter
Scaramouch is so fun he really got me wanting to login daily
Same, everytime I see a mob in my way, i stomp on them
@@lapdance2122 behold
no endgame = no meta
@@finalfantasy8148 Cry louder!
Scaramouche is super meta though
Those Xiangling vapes on Childe's team was immaculate
My Itto uses the same team setup and clears the chicken in roughly 9-11 seconds
For context-
70CR
281CD
2.5k Defense (without any buffs)
C6 R5
I’m confident this is purely due to optimized artifacts since I spent all my resin farming for Itto, not farming optimal builds for every character in the game like this chad.
Yah his itto is just weak
Iirc, you'll have to manually switch Itto for burst because it can full snapshot all the buffs. Using the shortcut key ctrl + "party number" misses the snapshot of all def buff
Honestly he needs to get someone that will play their Itto like he does with Xiao, someone that know all the little srats to minmax dmg
@@keneunaegbu851 tbh that's not an "itto strat" but just a genshin strat in general. Same thing applies to almost any other character that's being buffed by gorou/bennet
I've always suspected Yelan being Mhys love child and her soloing a boss with little set-up is basically proof. And that's why I use her in all my teams, she's just perfect(and I will get her to C6, well eventually)
did you happen to c6 her yet?
That hypercarry raiden set up was wrong. You want to infuse pyro with kazuha. My heart hurts
an entirely year after release and C6 Shenhe is still the most fun constellation
international being on par with raiden hyper while childe gains literally nothing from constellations and primarily being an aoe dmg dealer is absurd
When you realize Yelan was never meant to support Hu Tao or Yoi, and that they've been holding her back this whole time.
Edit: Just started a war in the comments lol
correction - When you realize "C6" Yelan was never meant to support Hu Tao or Yoi, and that they've been holding her back this whole time.
@@SauravKumar-ki4bn ah, sweet context. So refreshing
@@SauravKumar-ki4bn exactly
@@SauravKumar-ki4bn C6 characters are the "complete" characters, so op first statement is just a rewording of yours
@@lXlDarKSuoLlXl Actually...🤓
I love the surprise cryo xiao, definitely should've been an sss+ haha
IWTL: i know Tartaglia
He hates tartag...lol
why are you surprised that hes a pretentious youtuber trying to use his influence to hate on characters he doesnt like, this is why people dont take him seriously
on ganyu's run i was like "thats why she's the GOAT! the GOAT!!"
Yelan a support character is better than most main dps's
tbh if wanderer's c2 was used and he also had his sinature set he would clear it faster, but that still was impressive
Echoes on c6 Wanderer is actually better than his signature set, if you have good ping of course.
@@kidsmipad8324 this wanderer used shime as I remember (too lazy to re-watch) and shime always stronger than echoes, also that casino mechanics and dependence on ping for the normal work of the set, so in case of his ultimate, his mechanics and stable result, actually chronicles still the best choice. It was calculated many times. Yeah echoes is top3 for his own dmg and if u already have good set no need for new one, but still. he is just as dependent on his signature artifacts set as Raiden is on her emblem .
@@cryimp4571 Can I see the calcs then? Because I am pretty sure echoes c6r5 with good ping beats dpc c6r5
@kids mipad tables with calculations in Russian, so I doubt that it will be convenient for you to navigate docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GkxWggv-RntG29ayOItseS1HiwQQ8cgjjR_8rwytX4A/edit?usp=drivesdk
Xiao has done very well. For a character that's centred around AOE damage with a C6 that doesn't work for bosses, 15 seconds is very impressive.
He was basically c1 there competing with c6's
Kokomi was listed under the “K” block. But if you’re going by alphabetical order based on the status screen names, then she should be between Raiden and Tartaglia. She isn’t single-name like Yoimiya and Sayu; the family name starts with an “ S.”
Love these kinds of videos.
Would also love to see a c6 Nahida DPS showdown at some point.
Like, Nahida vs Raiden would be fun. An Archon battle, so to speak.
waiting for Cyno's dad joke about neglecting him completely
This abyss made me really happy, as my Cyno is thriving on first half
Cyno/Fischl/Xingqiu/Nahida c1 btw, got REALLY lucky. Both fish and xq c6, but im very much f2p and finished all chambers first half in under a minute.
Hu Tao needs a set of artifacts that she takes full advantage of, one focused on Damage based on Max Life, she also lacks a bennett that doesn't heal, like a niche pyro support like Gorou for Geo and Faruzan for anemo

She doesn't need that, she's already stronk
@@ahmadraif9989 in my view she does need it, she doesn't have her own set like others that she uses entirely, Crimson Witch she doesn't stack all, Shimenawa takes energy from Ultimate, lacks a set, and a pyro support that is for her what bennett is for the others, although all would benefit from a pyro support that buffs 60% Critical damage at C6, pyro resistance debuff and pyro bonus buff
@@andersonlucas5581 No She doesn't Double Hydro Hutao Can already Demolish her Enemies.
@@xMomoee She doesn't need that for sure but I think it would be cool if she finally gets something. I don't like the idea of running the suboptimal sets and units. I know she has very powerful double hydro team (yelan/xingqiu/xiangling) but I would rather play her as the solo hypercarry with personal supports and a solid set that works fully with her kit. Like cmon, we have gorou/faruzan/sara/shenhe for other elements and bennett/yunjin/kazuha as universal units to use. Hu tao only cares about kazuha/sucrose and she cannot even use them without bringing other suboptimal pyro user.
@@asoko1157I agree her best pyro support is amber with ventes bow😂😂
Imagine if hoyo release pyro shenha.
18:24 by looking at chart I can clearly see that Bennett and kazuha are the real powerhouses
Well done, Bennett and Kazuha. SS Tier for you
I would love to see a C0 like this, because some characters like Itto and Childe dont get that much at c6, when others like Yelan, Ayaka, Hu Tao, do get muuuuuuuch better at c6.
in this type of showcase, Hu Tao don't get much at C6 as well, just consistency. You would run the same 300+ crit damage build with no crit rate and reset until it crits.
@@ltspfan Yea, ik, but i mentioned her bcs her cons are good in general
@@fakeornot5513 only c1 is actually good
@@fakeornot5513 lol do u even have hutao? itto and childe cons are more useful than hutao cons.🤦♂️
@@fakeornot5513 is not an opinion kid. Know the difference between opinions and straight facts kid.🤡
“Wanderer needs a buff”
I’m so happy hyperwanderer was in SS tier
And with only 4 stars support
His con paired with C6 Faruzan is crazy good.
Mushroom chicken: crowing
Yelan: Quiet now!
Mushroom chicken: dies but not so quietly
IWTL needs to STOP using Yelan C6 for any runs where she isn't the main character to showcase. It honestly just ruins the run and takes away the shine from the main character he wants to showcase.
In other words, C6 Yelan is better than those C6 characters, the main take away is get C6 Yelan
I agree it doesn't make sense
The ayato showcase here was laughable.
Might as well remove "support" ayaka then
guys look,,, my boy wanderer some mf still says he is bad...,, wanderer broken with faruzan or without faruzan,,, not only damage but also how easy and how fun to play,,,,, respect him,,,
Litteraly waifu impact, hu tao, ganyu and ayaka still best dps in the game and the closest husband to ever reaching them is scara good one but of course alongside there respective mvp supports kazuha, Bennet etc
6:06 Ayaka : The fact of the matter is Diluc Ragnvindr couldn’t have done it without ME
I really love *this type of challenge videos*
Kazuman the Chad carrying everyone effortlessly
The wolf doggos and the boss gave me a pretty hard time, good thing I got a C4 gorou this banner and managed to clear the second chamber with a mono geo team with Itto.
9:04 Yelan did 70% of the damage in an 'Ayato' team, LOL
Interesting comparaison
On a side note, that's cool and all, and I know your category is Whale-C6-Tier and you can't turn off const, but I would find interesting a C0 5 stars/C6 4 stars battle between all of them, that would give an other representation of the teams because the fight lasts longer and there will be more difference than few seconds probably
You do not want to alt swap with Itto since he won't get to Snapshot Gorou's defense bonus
Wanderer haters are going in comma after seeing how good he turned out to be
*coughs* _xiao mains_ *coughs* *cough*
He is a monster for single targets, with only 4 stars in his teams and only using his NA attacks, he has a much higher dmg ceiling
@@elloygarcia8155 *coughs* _proceeds to go in comma_
Like every character on their release with the best abyss buff for them? Lmao, he's just average in the best cases and of course this is C6 R5, the base Wanderer dont get even closer.
@@Hhhh22222-w ??? 96% NA dmg bonus from his weapon R5 and Yunjin of course he is only using NA, dont be a fucking clown
Great vid as always, possibly the best you've released imo! It kinda feels like an ultimate showdown!
Yelan keep slaying in every competition wth😂😂
while ningguang is secretly 6 star for having yelan as subordinate XD
Yelan is on of if not the best charachter in the game, so its kinda obvious
@@m9g935 and also one of the best c6r5 character xD
@@vinsara3782 yeah iwtlg video is completely unreliable since its all just c6 charachters, but yelan is still on of the best at c0
Still doesn't get close to Hu Tao + Ayaka
Let's just acknowledge the true mvp's of the video:🙏🏾
Bennett being on 12 of the teams and Kazuha being in 16 of them
Also this is a single target boss.. don't get discouraged if your AOE DPS didn't do well.
Pov: keqing and xiao
There probably dozens of people out there that can pull valuable gameplay advice out of these comparisons. Still great watch!
As much I like the showcase. I don't like how Ayaka and Yelan with Cons as "Support" overshadow the showcase on some. It felt rather unfair.
The only fair use was with Hu Tao and Ayaka since she dealt the less damage here and Hu Tao dealt the most damage as a Hypercarry.
Yeah, look at that Kokomi one, she did like all of 5-10% of the damage. Would have been probably faster time if she wasn't there.
Blame hoyoverse, yelan and ayaka at c6 are monsters
@@Hhhh22222-w holy shit I thought I recognize this name from the last iwtl comment section, bro has comments riddled in that xiao vs wanderer vid lol
@@asunayuuki1705 I still remember that poor diluc showcase with yelan doing 95% of the dmg and diluc was only for the last hit.
@@asoko1157 I remember that too, was funny then and is still funny now.
Can I just say that I really appreciate the puns and the effort you put in the edit of your videos? There's not a single text popping up on screen without a sound effect and I really love that!
As a Kokomi, Keqing and Yae Miko
Main I’m so proud of them
It took both Hu tao & Ayaya to stand up to the absurdity of Yelan, truly the solo queen
T-T stop using yelan’s c6 please, we get that the run will be slower but the point is to showcase the characters’ DPS capabilities, not have other “supports” deal more than 50% of the DMG. Especially with yelan-in one of your Diluc showcases you almost exclusively used Yelan with Diluc just to finish the small remaining bit of health because it’d be faster, but that doesn’t actually show us how strong Diluc is. I want to know how strong my mains are at high potential (good artifacts, etc., not how strong other meta characters are
RIGHTT?????
this is a speed run video, if you’re looking for a diluc guide then check out his actual diluc guide
So top 5 teams had Ayaka 3 times, at this point of time, we might as well call it Ayaka showcase.
Please make a part 2 of this when Alhaitham comes out. It gonna be great
Alhaithem got nerfed like hell. Ever since I started looking at leaks way back in like 2.0 when inazuma was on verge of it's release. He didn't even get any changes, they just cut em scaling and NA scaling by a lot, especially for the elemental mastery where it was like 600% b4 and now it's like 170%
mvp goes to kazuha and bennett for being in most of the team compositions lol
Thank you so much for the massive effort you put into your videos through and through, they are always well-edited and genuinely entertaining to watch.
Another thing I liked is that despite all the hate before for using Yelan in previous videos, you kept on doing what you wanted without changing for others' sake, and I really respect that about you.
Do take care of yourself and I hope you keep enjoying what you do.
"our robot chicken friend" you'll soon be able to say this, new map will be cyberpunk-themed (or steampunk), maybe a robot chicken await us there?
Yelan is true love ❤️ I'm glad I have her , and soon I'll get raiden . No one will stop me in game to destroy all enemies then .
My yelan at c0 doing 102k dmg lol.
Poor boy Cyno didn't even make it into the video. Looks like even the Cocogoat was forgotten