I think you nailed it on the head with what makes Trostani so great! I love cheating out normal creatures as tokens and then populating them with Trostani in my own deck. Ulvenwald Hydra has easily become my MVP for the deck.
Back in 2016 when I started playing Commander, that was actually my first ever deck. Back then much of the cards on this video didn't exist (Bramble Sovereign, Helm of the Host, etc), but most of the ideas were already there. Now you have given me lots of ideas to revisit the deck again. Gosh, DJ, stop giving us so many awesome ideas! I'm still recovering from all the fun I had with the Izoni decklist! Lol Thank you for being amazing 💚💛
Interesting. Populate has always been the Selesnya mechanic I've kinda ignored (extra Desolation Twins, whoopdidoo...), but I'm clearly going to have to reevaluate :) Now you've got me thinking about the possibilities with Bant: Selesnya for the populate, and Blue for the Cackling Counterpart and Clone Legion - if we're going to be creating token copies of our best creatures, why not copy their best creatures too :D
I was very happy to hear that you were making this video, I haven't updated my all foil Trostani deck in a long time. Thank you for the ideas and great video as always!
Just threw together a similar deck a few days ago, got the new art trostani at the helm and have been loving it! MTGMusdstah was my origional inspiration but I like your additions such as birthing pod.
I have my own version of this deck and I love it. Also I teach others how to play with Trostani because it is so user friendly. I actually used many of the cards in your deck. I love how you did this deck. Keep it up!
I really like this videos you make, thank you very much. I'm playing my new Emmara, soul of the accord deck, I really enjoy it. Friends that have played it really enjoy it just because it can be a different Selesnya deck, i'm sad it doesn't see much play. once again, thank you for the videos and all your hard work.
A really great deck tech. I love the spin you put on this than just another Selesnya token deck. This sounds like so much more fun and for my friend who likes the enchanting-a-green-stompy deck rather than the token-hell green white decks it will be the perfect xmas gift!
Hey I don't think the Scion of Vitu-Ghazi token doesn't work. It reads "if cast from your hand" for the ETB effect. Unless that only applies to the bird.
I'm reading it the same. To me, it even looks like the populate action is dependent on being cast from hand. So this is either a non-combo, or a great example at how bad I am at understanding cards. Maybe Geist-Honored Monk instead?
I love this! I made a deck somewhat like this, but with Kynaios and Tiro as commander for blue and red. Blue obviously has more copy effects and red has some cool things like Gisela that get crazy with helm of the host.
Over the tone, I updated my Trostani this way without notifying it. I added helm of the host and copy creatures cards and suddenly, games were pretty fun to play!
This is simmilar to my Brudiclad deck. I basically bought the precon, changed the commander and added a few copy artifact and create token effects. Love it so much
This was so cool. Would love to see you do a deck on Sydri I feel like she's a similar commander where people always use her one way but she could be used in a totally other unique way
I'm surprised (not really though since this was most likely filmed before the latest command zone) that the new trostani wasn't a little more hyped in this deck tech since it's kind of a hoser to expropriate. More surprised that crested sunmare didn't get mentioned since it synergizes with trostani so well with the life gain! Sweet tech though! Never really build in selesnya but probably will now!
Trostani is actually in a deck I’m building with the unicorn legendary Emiel as the commander. Making a blink deck with a bunch of “when a creature enters under your control but I just so happen to have a helm of the host lying around. Token blink hybrid deck isn’t too shabby of a concept. I’m just worried about what happens when it isn’t working. 😅
Love it! I used to have a 60 cards deck that utilizes Bant token generators for this kind of theme (Trostani was also part of it), it's good that artifacts these days generate enough tokens for Trostani to populate as she see fits. I saw a Tajic life gain deck from GatheringMagic the other day, if that deck battles yours, I wonder which side would win?
If you put helm of the host on trostani, you CA populate the no legendary token, which also has populate so you can get a huge number of trostanis which each give you additional life gain triggers and can populate themselves
I literally just built Trostani and I was getting so frustrated with it because it wasn’t what I wanted. I am going to try your strategy out and see if it’s a better fit thank you!
I run a Karametra Tokens deck with both Tristoni's as awesome generals. Nacatal War-pride from Future sight does very very well with myriad/token doublers.
This deck tech reminds me of my brudiclad deck. Also making insane amounts of token copies of wurmcoil engine or hellrider. I think ill make a similar deck like this one since it's so much fun and i have a lot of cards to make more tokens that are not being used.
My trostani deck is Lord tribal Why make a 5/5 when you can have a 5/5 with +4/+6? And gain 20 life? And make a 4/4 angel at the end step from gaining all that life? And doing that each turn! And if they board wipe, that gains more life And now you have thousands of life and an army of tokens immune to damage thanks to emmara and assault formation for when you are ready to gruul smash in selesnya
Trostani Discordant seems eh, until thinking how she helps vs Xantcha and Zedruu...as well and "I'm gonna steal/play yer deck, thanks" strategies. I know, Homeward Path, but that's 1 of 99 cards and costs a land drop (and possibly a land tutor).
My Trostani deck is interesting. I have a go-wide shell, with lots of cloning and cheating out big creatures as tokens. There’s also a lot of cheaper cards (avg mana cost is abt 3.2) and card draw, for an aggressive, powerful deck
i was really sad when all the card shops i went to sold out of the guild kit, but i was at target and thought i should at least check. and well i wouldnt be writing this unless i found it there, i know people bash on buying tcg from walmart and the such, but we should bash on those who bought the kits just to sell the one card in there and piece sell the rest.
The main weakness with token W/G decks are board wipes + mass bounce. Any suggestions to boost up your tokens? Ive got Gaddock Teeg, Tiferi's Protection, selfless spirit, and natural affinity. The latter I will use to really hold the table's lands hostage. Just have to run a decent ramp package (good thing for green) to stem the mana-hemorrhage. What else have people tried and are effective?
One nitpick: you mention the nombo with Divine Vistitation but it's still in your list. Love the deck, though, much more so than traditional Trostani lists. I was sad to learn, when I tried to build this on MTGO, that Regal Behemoth isn't "printed" online. :/
Ser Pink Knight in a brudaclad deck consider chronozoa, it gets out of hand REALLY quick. If Chronozoa becomes a copy of another creature and is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, no copies will be created. If another creature becomes a copy of Chronozoa and is put into a graveyard from the battlefield (with no time counters on it), two copies of Chronozoa will be created. because of this ruling. the existing tokens were already there get no time counters...then use a sac engine or boardwipe or go all in and watch everyone squirm.
The deck I built is a Naya ETB. Bramble Sovereign, Warstorm surge, Flameshadow Conjuring, Regisaur Alpha etc. Was going to use Phyrexian Processor but decided against it for now
You know.... I still don't understand why Trostani is the premier token commander when you get so much more value in creating tokens from Rhys the Redeemed. I get that he doesn't have the life gain aspect, however I would rather get all the tokens rather than chose to get one of them. Either way, all the things you mentioned really work well with him as well as with Trostani. Also after watching and taking a second look at my own Rhys deck, I was a little disappointed to remember that both can only do creature tokens. I would have loved to include Treasure Map and Tamiyo's Journal in my list of tokens to double.
@@nebula8851 price I'll give you, but Trostani is no more immune to sweepers than Rhys, and I would argue Rhys is more resilient to it because he costs less to cast (one mana verses four) and has token generation built into his abilities.
the only problem with this deck that I can see is keeping track of all the damn tokens and what each one of them will do whilst keeping track of all their different effects and abilities
I HAVE MADE A DISCOVERY You know the vine with the guy holding a sign that says "boo" backwards? Then he flips it over and gets scared? You look exactly like him. Were you a former Vine star DJ?
For this deck, I would actually reccommend getting a Serra Avatar (for the Soul Foundry) and/or Ajani Goldmane, Doubling Season, and Parallel Lives. The amount of life that you would get from Doubling Season + Parallel Lives + Anointed Procession + Growing Ranks with the avatars, whose P/T = your life total, is absolutely DISGUSTING! Just from those alone, you can MULTIPLY YOUR LIFE TOTAL BY 9 WHENEVER IT IS YOUR TURN! Put Song of the Wordsoul on top of that, and you could multiply your life by 9 FOR EVERY SPELL THAT YOU CAST!
For sure. No other token-based commander comes close to the insane power of Rhys. Although I actually don’t run Trostani in my deck, I use Soul Warden instead. Almost all my tokens are 1/1s so the 1 mana cost of the Warden beats Trostani’s WWGG for the same effect. Better actually, since it also gains me life whenever other players get creatures.
Nothing new. Muddstah already have a deck like this. And is the obvious choice if you don't want simple big guys tokens. Is hard, I know, but try something new. By the way, I think new players will enjoy. Thanks for the effort.
I think you failed to mention one huge thing, when you make a token of Scion it goes infinite. Token comes in, makes a bird and populates. You have it populate itself. Then another one comes in, it makes a bird and you populate. Have it populate itself. It just goes forever.
I think you nailed it on the head with what makes Trostani so great! I love cheating out normal creatures as tokens and then populating them with Trostani in my own deck. Ulvenwald Hydra has easily become my MVP for the deck.
MTG Muddstah glad to see you comment here. Trastoni reanimator looks like so much fun.
I really like your token reanimator deck. It has all I like in it, tokens and reanimation
Your Trostani deck was the inspiration for my own and it was incredibly fun when I had it together!
I was like “huh this sounds like muddstahs deck” and here you are at the top comment xD
Your deck list has led to me sharped the point of my Trostani deck. High five for putting all but one life into Phyrexian Processor!
-Matt
Definitely check out the MTG Muddstah gameplay videos that feature his Trostani deck, it's built this way and does some crazy stuff!
Back in 2016 when I started playing Commander, that was actually my first ever deck. Back then much of the cards on this video didn't exist (Bramble Sovereign, Helm of the Host, etc), but most of the ideas were already there. Now you have given me lots of ideas to revisit the deck again. Gosh, DJ, stop giving us so many awesome ideas! I'm still recovering from all the fun I had with the Izoni decklist! Lol
Thank you for being amazing 💚💛
YES!!! i love trostani. elspeth tirel's ultimate "destroy all other permanents except lands and tokens" is devastatingly good with this deck.
Interesting. Populate has always been the Selesnya mechanic I've kinda ignored (extra Desolation Twins, whoopdidoo...), but I'm clearly going to have to reevaluate :) Now you've got me thinking about the possibilities with Bant: Selesnya for the populate, and Blue for the Cackling Counterpart and Clone Legion - if we're going to be creating token copies of our best creatures, why not copy their best creatures too :D
I was very happy to hear that you were making this video, I haven't updated my all foil Trostani deck in a long time. Thank you for the ideas and great video as always!
Just threw together a similar deck a few days ago, got the new art trostani at the helm and have been loving it! MTGMusdstah was my origional inspiration but I like your additions such as birthing pod.
Hi DJ, coming from the command zone. Love your stuff and have been binging a lot of your arena videos! Keep up the awesome work :D
I have my own version of this deck and I love it. Also I teach others how to play with Trostani because it is so user friendly. I actually used many of the cards in your deck. I love how you did this deck. Keep it up!
I really like this videos you make, thank you very much. I'm playing my new Emmara, soul of the accord deck, I really enjoy it. Friends that have played it really enjoy it just because it can be a different Selesnya deck, i'm sad it doesn't see much play. once again, thank you for the videos and all your hard work.
A really great deck tech. I love the spin you put on this than just another Selesnya token deck. This sounds like so much more fun and for my friend who likes the enchanting-a-green-stompy deck rather than the token-hell green white decks it will be the perfect xmas gift!
Hey I don't think the Scion of Vitu-Ghazi token doesn't work. It reads "if cast from your hand" for the ETB effect. Unless that only applies to the bird.
I'm reading it the same. To me, it even looks like the populate action is dependent on being cast from hand. So this is either a non-combo, or a great example at how bad I am at understanding cards. Maybe Geist-Honored Monk instead?
blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2013/06/a-progenitor-mimic-copying-scion-of-vitu-ghazi-will-make-birds-when-it-enters-the-battlefield-but-not-on-each-upkeep/
Ugh, lame. I like the card cause it has a bird-friend but now ... it maybe makes the cut. It's still ...fine.
I was so disappointed when I looked a bit more closely at this card and discovered that... I immediately took it out of my deck when I found out.
I will definitely try your version of it. Looks so cool
I love this! I made a deck somewhat like this, but with Kynaios and Tiro as commander for blue and red. Blue obviously has more copy effects and red has some cool things like Gisela that get crazy with helm of the host.
totally one of my favorite videos of yours, DJ!
I loveeee trostani, ive see. Like a million different builds and they are all awesome.
Yo, perfect timing was just deciding whether to build this commander based on MtgMuddstah's version which looks similar to this
Over the tone, I updated my Trostani this way without notifying it. I added helm of the host and copy creatures cards and suddenly, games were pretty fun to play!
This is simmilar to my Brudiclad deck. I basically bought the precon, changed the commander and added a few copy artifact and create token effects. Love it so much
This was so cool. Would love to see you do a deck on Sydri I feel like she's a similar commander where people always use her one way but she could be used in a totally other unique way
I’m loving this deck list. One thing I think is missing though is ways to untap Trostani
Ben Fjerstad seeker of skybreak?
Reminds me a bit of MTGMudstah's list. Neat stuff.
I added Crested Sunmare and Repledecendent Angel too and well of lost dreams for some card draw. Ive had this commander for years now, she is AMAZING!
Was just about to start making a deck for this, thank you!!!
Scion of vitu ghazi has to be cast from hand to populate
Giving myriad to wayfaring temple is hilarious especially with emmara tandris
I just got this in the mail. Can't wait to try this out
Yes! Thanks so much for this video!
I don't know how you do it! Always getting me excited about a deck, even when i don't care for the color combo lol
Yes the new art is so sweet!
I'm surprised (not really though since this was most likely filmed before the latest command zone) that the new trostani wasn't a little more hyped in this deck tech since it's kind of a hoser to expropriate. More surprised that crested sunmare didn't get mentioned since it synergizes with trostani so well with the life gain! Sweet tech though! Never really build in selesnya but probably will now!
I was actually making this version bro. I love it. 😂😂😂
Guardian project is a must include for that card draw! It's like the Huatly emblem but only 3G. Sooooo good!
Trostani is actually in a deck I’m building with the unicorn legendary Emiel as the commander. Making a blink deck with a bunch of “when a creature enters under your control but I just so happen to have a helm of the host lying around. Token blink hybrid deck isn’t too shabby of a concept. I’m just worried about what happens when it isn’t working. 😅
Love it! I used to have a 60 cards deck that utilizes Bant token generators for this kind of theme (Trostani was also part of it), it's good that artifacts these days generate enough tokens for Trostani to populate as she see fits.
I saw a Tajic life gain deck from GatheringMagic the other day, if that deck battles yours, I wonder which side would win?
If you put helm of the host on trostani, you CA populate the no legendary token, which also has populate so you can get a huge number of trostanis which each give you additional life gain triggers and can populate themselves
I literally just built Trostani and I was getting so frustrated with it because it wasn’t what I wanted. I am going to try your strategy out and see if it’s a better fit thank you!
I run a Karametra Tokens deck with both Tristoni's as awesome generals. Nacatal War-pride from Future sight does very very well with myriad/token doublers.
This deck tech reminds me of my brudiclad deck. Also making insane amounts of token copies of wurmcoil engine or hellrider. I think ill make a similar deck like this one since it's so much fun and i have a lot of cards to make more tokens that are not being used.
Thanks a lot for the inspiration!
I’ve made a version of this deck, but in Bant with Roon. :) Clone effects in Blue are great
My trostani deck is Lord tribal
Why make a 5/5 when you can have a 5/5 with +4/+6? And gain 20 life?
And make a 4/4 angel at the end step from gaining all that life?
And doing that each turn!
And if they board wipe, that gains more life
And now you have thousands of life and an army of tokens immune to damage thanks to emmara and assault formation for when you are ready to gruul smash in selesnya
If you're casting creatures (this deck does) and you have cool equipment (this deck does) then add Quest for the Holy Relic. So much value for 1 mana!
Great deck tech
Re-doing my traditional Trostani deck. Why didn’t I think of this??
👍🏼
I had a game where helm on trestoni and ended up with 21 of my commander, the life gain, also the helm token has haste.... so good
Talk about timing, decided that after tonight's league I was going to rebuild my deck
Sporemound with Life and Limb might be a good budget option. Infinite Forest/saproling tokens.
what an amazing deck..! thanks
Helm of Host + Grothama is my dream combo.
Wow, cool list! But there is a serious lack of squirrely fun by not including Deranged Hermit! :-)
Trostani Discordant seems eh, until thinking how she helps vs Xantcha and Zedruu...as well and "I'm gonna steal/play yer deck, thanks" strategies.
I know, Homeward Path, but that's 1 of 99 cards and costs a land drop (and possibly a land tutor).
I love soul foundry in this deck, but my version also has a fairly sizable ramp package
I chose not to include it but the value is totally there if you can get it going.
It's fun to how your list differs.
I have a deck just like this and it is a blast and always run life from the lome pa emeria shepherd and sakura tribe elder are broken
Yep. All the plains.
My Trostani deck is interesting. I have a go-wide shell, with lots of cloning and cheating out big creatures as tokens. There’s also a lot of cheaper cards (avg mana cost is abt 3.2) and card draw, for an aggressive, powerful deck
i was really sad when all the card shops i went to sold out of the guild kit, but i was at target and thought i should at least check. and well i wouldnt be writing this unless i found it there, i know people bash on buying tcg from walmart and the such, but we should bash on those who bought the kits just to sell the one card in there and piece sell the rest.
The main weakness with token W/G decks are board wipes + mass bounce. Any suggestions to boost up your tokens? Ive got Gaddock Teeg, Tiferi's Protection, selfless spirit, and natural affinity. The latter I will use to really hold the table's lands hostage. Just have to run a decent ramp package (good thing for green) to stem the mana-hemorrhage. What else have people tried and are effective?
Privileged position would help...
One nitpick: you mention the nombo with Divine Vistitation but it's still in your list.
Love the deck, though, much more so than traditional Trostani lists. I was sad to learn, when I tried to build this on MTGO, that Regal Behemoth isn't "printed" online. :/
That's prolly an oversight from how many times I tinkered with the list trying to make a build i liked.
Deck tech with Unesh, the sovereign Sphinx
Please convince Josh to get you on the next game knights!!!!!!
1000000% this!
It's like my Brudiclad deck expect Selesnya has all the doubling effects!! XD 😭
Ser Pink Knight in a brudaclad deck consider chronozoa, it gets out of hand REALLY quick.
If Chronozoa becomes a copy of another creature and is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, no copies will be created. If another creature becomes a copy of Chronozoa and is put into a graveyard from the battlefield (with no time counters on it), two copies of Chronozoa will be created.
because of this ruling. the existing tokens were already there get no time counters...then use a sac engine or boardwipe or go all in and watch everyone squirm.
storm herd with the hualti emblem :0
I love your video
I ordered a Trostani, to put it in a different deck :p
The deck I built is a Naya ETB. Bramble Sovereign, Warstorm surge, Flameshadow Conjuring, Regisaur Alpha etc. Was going to use Phyrexian Processor but decided against it for now
You know.... I still don't understand why Trostani is the premier token commander when you get so much more value in creating tokens from Rhys the Redeemed. I get that he doesn't have the life gain aspect, however I would rather get all the tokens rather than chose to get one of them. Either way, all the things you mentioned really work well with him as well as with Trostani.
Also after watching and taking a second look at my own Rhys deck, I was a little disappointed to remember that both can only do creature tokens. I would have loved to include Treasure Map and Tamiyo's Journal in my list of tokens to double.
I run Rhys in the 99 solely because so many people i play with run Erebos, it usually goes well switching them out on the fly
Rhys being $30 and prone to being blown out by board wipes is why.
@@nebula8851 price I'll give you, but Trostani is no more immune to sweepers than Rhys, and I would argue Rhys is more resilient to it because he costs less to cast (one mana verses four) and has token generation built into his abilities.
Spawnwrithe+blade of selves...nuff said.
also archangel of thune slaps in trostani, make a token of it and just destroy everyone
Hey DJ!
the only problem with this deck that I can see is keeping track of all the damn tokens and what each one of them will do whilst keeping track of all their different effects and abilities
I HAVE MADE A DISCOVERY
You know the vine with the guy holding a sign that says "boo" backwards? Then he flips it over and gets scared?
You look exactly like him. Were you a former Vine star DJ?
Never even had vine on my phone. Lol
For this deck, I would actually reccommend getting a Serra Avatar (for the Soul Foundry) and/or Ajani Goldmane, Doubling Season, and Parallel Lives. The amount of life that you would get from Doubling Season + Parallel Lives + Anointed Procession + Growing Ranks with the avatars, whose P/T = your life total, is absolutely DISGUSTING! Just from those alone, you can MULTIPLY YOUR LIFE TOTAL BY 9 WHENEVER IT IS YOUR TURN! Put Song of the Wordsoul on top of that, and you could multiply your life by 9 FOR EVERY SPELL THAT YOU CAST!
Y u no use desolation twins
It's an "on cast" trigger so it doesnt synergize with the deck's strategies.
I love token decks, looks like I got spend money on this one lol.
it would be cool copying Rhys with all the doublers. i think i probably already have her in my MTGO Rhys deck tho lol
but wait, its legendary, unless i make a nonlegenday token of it before i copy it of course
Trostani + helm then print Trostani is also an option 🤣
That's low not telling us bruticlad isn't the inspiration
Rhys the Redeemed is better as the commander, but Trostani is an auto include in her
For sure. No other token-based commander comes close to the insane power of Rhys. Although I actually don’t run Trostani in my deck, I use Soul Warden instead. Almost all my tokens are 1/1s so the 1 mana cost of the Warden beats Trostani’s WWGG for the same effect. Better actually, since it also gains me life whenever other players get creatures.
Don't call yourself selesnyan if you don't make a loxodon/wurm/elf/soldier tribal deck with trostani
You’re a tad bit late. Still like it tho.
Dj, there is white in that deck. Eeww
Nothing new. Muddstah already have a deck like this. And is the obvious choice if you don't want simple big guys tokens. Is hard, I know, but try something new.
By the way, I think new players will enjoy. Thanks for the effort.
I think you failed to mention one huge thing, when you make a token of Scion it goes infinite. Token comes in, makes a bird and populates. You have it populate itself. Then another one comes in, it makes a bird and you populate. Have it populate itself. It just goes forever.
It actually doesn't. The populate only happens if you cast it from your hand.