I recently helped my buddy with his Honda Odyssey van. It has over 200K miles and this was probably not (hopefully not) the first timing belt replacement. We tried every trick in the book, including this socket and it WOULD NOT BUDGE! We finally took it to another friend's and used a 4 to 1 torque multiplier. It took a LOT of pulling by hand, but we got it free, tightened it back up "loosely" to get back home. Turns out loose wasn't loose enough, and at this point the Lisle socket DID work when the regular SK Deep socket wouldn't remove it. I'm sure whoever installed the bolt after the previous timing belt replacement just went full power with an impact to tighten it. When doing a timing belt, always make sure you can get the pulley bolt free before wasting any time on other steps! :)
it's this very legendary crank bolt that manufacturer comes out with impacts that pumps out 1300ft-lb, this socket is a life saver! I have one as well, great review of it in action.
I just had the same experience on a stubborn crankshaft bolt on a 2005 Lexus RX-330. (That bolt head was 22mm, so I used a Lisle 77110.) After spending a lot of time with an impact gun and a regular impact socket, and using up almost all my usual tricks, I gave the Lisle a shot -- and it extracted the bolt immediately. Same impact gun, same air pressure; the only thing I changed was the socket.
Simply Amazing!!! All of these years, techs have chased more powerful impacts, when all they needed was a better socket!!! and a less than $25 socket is a bargain compared to a new impact. Nice transition from the IR cordless in the shop to the virgin new CP cordless out in the yard. great video as always!!!
+Fedwrench Nice :) I bought this thing on Amazon months ago.....and was really on the fence about IF it was going to work or not......theories are nice, but I was glad to finally see proof! And luckily had the camera there to record it.
These sockets work! I tried every kind of impact gun and breaker bars for a whole day. Ordered this socket on Amazon and it came off in less than 10 seconds.
Nice socket. I don't see too many Hondas anymore, but back in the days, I would just use the Honda crank pulley tool, in conjunction with a 1/2 impact. Never ran into problems.
+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) Thanks! Yeah, this would really help a less powerful impact remove the Honda crank bolt (where it never could before). I remember the first one I removed.....it was a 4+ hour long ordeal!
@@Sharkie1717 Turned out I didn't use it. I found 3 or 4 socket extenders that I linked together so that my breaker bar wasn't inside the wheel well any more. It was pretty easy after that. The total extender length ended up being in the range of 12 inches or so. Without the extension, I wasn't able to rotate the breaker bar at 90 degrees from the crank bolt.
Just bought one as I need to change my Crank sensor and I've seen this socket also pair well with midrange cordless impacts in some review videos. Hopfully I fair well with it as I wasn't able to afford a more expensive cordless impact.
probably works in two ways number one there's a little bit of movement in the socket so the weight of the socket does actually smack the bolt plus also because it is so thick a lot of the power and energy and angular momentum basically carries through from the gun to the bolt
My 1/2" drive stubby impact couldn't bust the crank bolt from a subaru h6 with the shallow cr-mo socket, but with the deep one, it knocked it right off. I was using a portable air tank, so the deep socket technically got less pressure too.
Probably super late to this but I just order one. Doing a k24 swap into my rsx and the bolt for the k24 won’t budge. I tried a 10ft cheater bar, broke two sockets already. Milwaukee 1/2 impact with a regular 19mm and nothing. It was able to take off my k20 one though with ease. I’ve torched the bolt , sprayed it with pb plaster with no luck. Going to try tomorrow.
+Josh Trevino Well.....my feeling is this.....those hard repairs make me (and you) really appreciate these good tools a lot more, since we had to do it "the hard way" before!
So far, everything I've heard about Honda crank pulley bolts usually lead up to this Lisle socket. I've got a timing belt job coming up on my Pilot, now I'm certain I'll be buying one of these to do it.
I had been moving the crank bolts many times with my trusted Aircat impact gun and not a single issue. This week, I'm working on my customer's 2000 Lexus RX300, and I've tried every tricks to get the crank bolt out including heat and bump starter, nothing worked. Just placed an order in for the 22mm socket, and will see when I get it. Update: With heavier socket, the bolt came loose in few seconds.
Did the exact same thing for me. 2003 CRV crank bolt was hopelessly stuck. My wife ordered the lisle for me and it came right off. Like it was nothing . Mind you I snapped a 2’ breaker bar on this bolt.
This actually worked on my 2012 CR-V with 215k miles! BUT use penetrating oil first,, let it soak it. Also turn the pressure up on your impact as much as it can handle. Even with that it took 60 seconds of continuous impact before it broke free.
i just watched a video of a dude hammering on that bolt all day with the 2767. He got it but it took a long, long time. That socket makes a difference, no doubt
Removed my Acura mdx 02 crank bolt pully with regular 19mm and the Bauer electric from habour frieght $69 came off with ease something about electric impact guns that really work on these crank bolts
HI.from PORTUGAL Great Videos you have Can I use a wrench with only 180Nm(Bosch GDS 18v) with that socket to take my crank bolt off. What do you think about the Metabo SSW 400 BL(new idea for a video?) Thank you Best Regards
I think most air impact setups don't have enough air flow with 1/4 fittings, 3/8 air hose that is too long. Most videos have anemic sounding air impacts. I took your advice on airflow. My setup is Ingersoll Rand 1/2" drive 2135TIMAX on regular impact socket, with 50' long, 1/2 diameter hose, 3/8" quick connect HF fitting. I set my 30 gallon air compressor to 120 PSI static. I broke my 2007 Accord 2.4L crank bolt loose to replace rusty oil pan. It took around 3 seconds. To verify it wasn't a fluke, I tried on my Mom's 07 Accord 2.4L. Same thing.
I'm impressed but have to try it for myself. Would normally use a 3/4 if not a 1 inch impact and will usually get the job done. But if this 1/2 inch socket gets the job done then it sure beats changing hoses for the bigger impacts
I successfully removed mine using: 1. This Lisle or similar 19mm Crank socket, 2. Kroil Penetrating Oil sprayed twice a day over 3 days, 3. Heated the bolt area with a electric heat gun, 4. Removed with a Harbor Freight EarthQuake 1000 ft-lb Air Impact Wrench. I first tried with an electric Impact which was not up to the task.
+singlecams Thanks! I didnt either until it showed up.....good to see a solid piece of steel with no welded on parts that could eventually fail. Yesterday was the first time I was able to actually use it & was amazed to see if work first-hand. Great design!
if you could watch in super slow motion you would see the standard socket flex and not delivering full torque the thick wall socket allows for no flex and all the torque to bolt I have been there with 3 different impacts and sockets the Lisle 77060 17mm Harmonic Balancer Socket worked in less than 1 minute. I am a believer in it
Years ago I had a similar socket. I didn't really understand why the crank bolt needed a special socket. When I realized how much force is required to remove it, I punted on the task entirely. It was only years later I learned these sockets only have an advantage when hammered with an impact. Even Lisle's product description skips that. They much assume everyone just uses impacts.
+Real Tool Reviews I had to smile when you described this manual method in the video. It's the exact same way I've been doing it on various Hondas over the years right down to the 4 ft. pipe you mentioned. It works just fine but after I saw this tool used on South Main Auto awhile ago I ordered one. I haven't had a chance to use it yet but it was nice to see you confirm how well it works.
So what you're saying here is a lot of the force that the impact puts out is being absorbed by the thin wall socket vs the thick wall one is just not absorbing the impact shock and is transferring it the bolt? Cool video.
+Love2boat92 A normal socket is rattling where this thing slams into the bolt with a lot more force.....definitely surprised me with how well it worked.
The hammer is on the gun not on the socket, the heavy socket even reduce the force of the gun to the bolt, the reason it work better because it reduce spring action of the socket it self
It's simple Newtonian Physics: F=ma. The a is solely dependent on the impact and is a constant. The m is the mass of the socket. 4X the mass results in 4X the F.
+SATAMAN Schmidt *Sir, I am familiar with Newton's formulation however my socket is not moving any distance so I am having a hard time following how we can put the acceleration of the socket into the above formula since it is not actually moving linearly. Does this acceleration you refer to involve angular something or other? Thank you for your time Sir.
a = v(squared) The socket is rotating with each impact of the impact wrench so it is moving angularly which is just the same as moving in a straight line from the standpoint of Newtonian physics. Nothing in space is moving in a straight line yet Newton's laws apply perfectly until we approach the speed of light. The Earth moving around the sun is little different than a socket moving around a bolt.
My neighbor has tried everything to remove the Honda Crank Bolt, he has tried the LISLE 77080 Socket, impact wrenches, breaker bar with long arm extension, torch to heat the bolt. it just will Not break loose.
+Steve Rob Not that one....working on a lot of clips, but editing takes forever.....we have a couple cars coming up that I will be getting a lot of clips on (Honda & Subaru).
Would be good to know the specs of that impact wrench you' used here. I need to buy one along with this tool but I'll likely never need to work on anything so difficult again. So would prefer to buy a mid-torque wrench for easier handling for other future uses. But if the only choice is one of the high torque 900-1000 N.M. behemoths then so be it. Just if I knew the tool you used here was only say 500 N.M. then I'd feel comfortable enough taking that gamble.
Do you think the Ingersoll socket will remove crankshaft pulley boats? And has that round this towards the back of the socket I was worried it might not be long enough to get in side the pulley ?
+the eabster the IR doesn't work on all vehicles for the exact reason you mention --- the ring hits the frame on some vehicles. However this Lisle fits with no problems & is 1/3 the price....
I think every company is going cordless with just about anything they can produce and it is getting better and better. I have to wonder though because that CP cordless still looks eerily similar to the Ridgid line of cordless impacts. Battery packs look almost 100% identical. Has anyone figured out if there was a TTI connection for batteries and/or tools? Has to some partnership out there.
+kj197734 TTI makes the CP batteries for them....as far as the CP8848 & CP8848-2 go, it says right on the tool "MADE IN FRANCE" (CP headquarters)....so they are not making the impacts also.
I use my 1 in. air impact and regular socket for the same job and came off so fast the toll dropped to the ground, watched videos and expected all kinds of problems.
+patdud1979 Yep...good eye! It is still being put through testing.....once we have gotten a lot of use out it, it will be on the schedule. I would assume the Milwaukee would have.....but I didnt want to try it & screw up the chance to get this crank bolt socket clip ;)
Your other video showed the IR W7150 (2:03 here) removes the bolt with just a normal 19mm deep impact socket. But in removing the bolt, you DID NOT use the IR W7150. You used a red impact battery gun (2:14) with a normal 19mm deep impact socket. Was the IR W7150 with normal 19mm deep impact socket couldn't remove it also?
I didn't try.....it was a different car, so no way of knowing IF the Ingersoll Rand could have removed it or not. This crank bolt socket works EXCELLENT!!! I thought it was a gimmick prior to making this video.
From how quickly his compressor kicked on....I am guessing it is a 10-15 gallon version (not much capacity) & although he set the regulator at 120psi -- normally stock regulators severely restrict airflow + 1/4" fittings + 50'+ (I am guessing) of airline = huge pressure drops. Most likely he was under 90 psi at the tool when under load. Check out my air pressure video to learn more ---> ruclips.net/video/MHx2EUWYzuM/видео.html
I'm ordering a 22mm to try to get my crank bolt off my 2004 Toyota Solara. I was about to take it to the dealership. The crank bolt's been on since the car was built 20 years ago . . .
Don’t use extensions/adapters and make sure you have enough air pressure during use (for pneumatic) or a high amp hour battery (for cordless). Watch the videos I made called “torque vs Torque loss”, “air pressure : working vs static psi”, & “does size matter”.
What the hell kind of cordless impact wrench is that? I struggled to remove that crank bolt with an air gun, does that socket really made that much of a difference, that even a battery powered wrench can remove it?
I know what the book says however if you snug it up with the air gun centrifugal force will not allow the bolt to loosen, in my 25 years as a master tech I have done countless t belts and water pumps and never had any issues with the bolt coming loose
the weight of the socket makes the difference. the Physics law is: p = mv, m = mass of the socket, v is the speed of the spinning socket, p is linear momentum.
hey brother i try removing that bolt with my air gun and shit still wont budge, how strong is your impact, i might consider getting that socket if its lagit working.
It is similar to a saw blade or drill when watching a video.....at 30FPS, the camera cannot capture the real-time motion & many times things appear to be spinning in the opposite direction. I assure you everything was in reverse only.
I watched that part multiple times. He clearly had it reverse if you pay CLOSE attention to the directional (reverse or foward) switch it stayed in the same position. Watch it again. That socket makes a difference.
Seems like a decent product if you work with Hondas. Last Honda crank bolt I had to open didn't open with regular 1/2" impact putting out 626 lb.ft of reverse torque . 3/4" impact with 1917 lb.ft of reverse torque opened it in 0,1 seconds...it's about the tools you use. :)
+Tucker Flynn The problem is the bolts (3/4" aka 19mm).....the stretch above 120 ft-lbs....no accurate way to "prove anything" just yet with it unfortunately.
So I wouldnt need a crank pulley holder? My car isn't manual so i cant just drop it in gear to stop the crank from moving, it'll just keep spinning left. You're positive it'll take off an AUTOMATIC car's pulley?
No....this is made to be used with an impact wrench.....the pulley holders are needed if you are using a breaker bar. It will remove it without holding anything (assuming your impact is adequate).
Real Tool Reviews a week ago I used a Milwaukee 2763 1/2” on a 2009 Accord crank bolt. 142,000 miles, first timing belt change. Regular socket. Spun it off like it was nothing. I don’t buy the marketing, but seeing the tool work with my own eyes, it was impressive. Granted, a $19 socket is a lot cheaper than a $250 impact, but the gun is way sexier. Guess which one I’m investing in?
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I recently helped my buddy with his Honda Odyssey van. It has over 200K miles and this was probably not (hopefully not) the first timing belt replacement. We tried every trick in the book, including this socket and it WOULD NOT BUDGE! We finally took it to another friend's and used a 4 to 1 torque multiplier. It took a LOT of pulling by hand, but we got it free, tightened it back up "loosely" to get back home. Turns out loose wasn't loose enough, and at this point the Lisle socket DID work when the regular SK Deep socket wouldn't remove it. I'm sure whoever installed the bolt after the previous timing belt replacement just went full power with an impact to tighten it. When doing a timing belt, always make sure you can get the pulley bolt free before wasting any time on other steps! :)
Honda engines spin counterclockwise. The bolt has to be extra tight otherwise, it would loosen, and cause all kinds of havoc.
+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) I'm sure that's not the reason it's so tight.
+john4kc Yeah, I agree.....ensuring you can remove the crank bolt would be the first step....otherwise you are wasting your time.
Lynx Star Automotive if they spun counterclockwise, you wouldn’t be able to use the starter to crack the crank bolt. You’d be tightening it.
it's this very legendary crank bolt that manufacturer comes out with impacts that pumps out 1300ft-lb, this socket is a life saver! I have one as well, great review of it in action.
+south park Thanks!
I just had the same experience on a stubborn crankshaft bolt on a 2005 Lexus RX-330. (That bolt head was 22mm, so I used a Lisle 77110.) After spending a lot of time with an impact gun and a regular impact socket, and using up almost all my usual tricks, I gave the Lisle a shot -- and it extracted the bolt immediately. Same impact gun, same air pressure; the only thing I changed was the socket.
Your voice and delivery are professional. We will be hearing more from you on Motor Trend before too long.
They also make a 17 mm version for older Honda's. I've used it, and it worked great for me. 1995 Civic DX 1.5L
Simply Amazing!!! All of these years, techs have chased more powerful impacts, when all they needed was a better socket!!! and a less than $25 socket is a bargain compared to a new impact. Nice transition from the IR cordless in the shop to the virgin new CP cordless out in the yard. great video as always!!!
+Fedwrench Nice :) I bought this thing on Amazon months ago.....and was really on the fence about IF it was going to work or not......theories are nice, but I was glad to finally see proof! And luckily had the camera there to record it.
Big up to the guys at lisle you guys are God send to us Honda Guys ❤
Who would’ve Thunk it !!! 😂
These sockets work! I tried every kind of impact gun and breaker bars for a whole day. Ordered this socket on Amazon and it came off in less than 10 seconds.
Not on my Neighbors, it's still not coming off, even with the Lisle Socket.
the bolt came lose as soon as it saw the bigger socket!! nicd
Man that is awesome glad someone came out with that finally! :)
+MidwestMotoRider I agree! Now they need to make a whole set!
love your channel even more now since all you have around you is imports i'm a Honda tech my self and that socket does work as intended.....
Nice socket. I don't see too many Hondas anymore, but back in the days, I would just use the Honda crank pulley tool, in conjunction with a 1/2 impact. Never ran into problems.
+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) Thanks! Yeah, this would really help a less powerful impact remove the Honda crank bolt (where it never could before). I remember the first one I removed.....it was a 4+ hour long ordeal!
i always enjoy your reviews, keep it up!
+Alex Parkes Thanks Alex!
You’ve given me hope. Thanks. I’ve got the 17mm inbound for my 95 Civic.
Now I can see...🙏🙏🙏
Did it work?
@@Sharkie1717 Turned out I didn't use it. I found 3 or 4 socket extenders that I linked together so that my breaker bar wasn't inside the wheel well any more. It was pretty easy after that. The total extender length ended up being in the range of 12 inches or so. Without the extension, I wasn't able to rotate the breaker bar at 90 degrees from the crank bolt.
Just bought one as I need to change my Crank sensor and I've seen this socket also pair well with midrange cordless impacts in some review videos. Hopfully I fair well with it as I wasn't able to afford a more expensive cordless impact.
Very cool, didn't know it would make that much difference. Thanks for sharing. - take care
probably works in two ways number one there's a little bit of movement in the socket so the weight of the socket does actually smack the bolt plus also because it is so thick a lot of the power and energy and angular momentum basically carries through from the gun to the bolt
My 1/2" drive stubby impact couldn't bust the crank bolt from a subaru h6 with the shallow cr-mo socket, but with the deep one, it knocked it right off. I was using a portable air tank, so the deep socket technically got less pressure too.
Outstanding!!
Unbelievable Jeff!!
Make sure your air compressor pressure is dialed up. Works like a charm
Probably super late to this but I just order one. Doing a k24 swap into my rsx and the bolt for the k24 won’t budge. I tried a 10ft cheater bar, broke two sockets already. Milwaukee 1/2 impact with a regular 19mm and nothing. It was able to take off my k20 one though with ease. I’ve torched the bolt , sprayed it with pb plaster with no luck. Going to try tomorrow.
Wish I had that about 8 years ago. That crank bolt was a bear to get off. Cool video, I wonder if they'll come out with a set of them
+Josh Trevino Well.....my feeling is this.....those hard repairs make me (and you) really appreciate these good tools a lot more, since we had to do it "the hard way" before!
So far, everything I've heard about Honda crank pulley bolts usually lead up to this Lisle socket. I've got a timing belt job coming up on my Pilot, now I'm certain I'll be buying one of these to do it.
Buy it. Trust me.
I like lisle specialty tools, reliable quality stuff.
I had been moving the crank bolts many times with my trusted Aircat impact gun and not a single issue. This week, I'm working on my customer's 2000 Lexus RX300, and I've tried every tricks to get the crank bolt out including heat and bump starter, nothing worked. Just placed an order in for the 22mm socket, and will see when I get it.
Update: With heavier socket, the bolt came loose in few seconds.
Did the exact same thing for me. 2003 CRV crank bolt was hopelessly stuck. My wife ordered the lisle for me and it came right off. Like it was nothing . Mind you I snapped a 2’ breaker bar on this bolt.
Again another great video.. Thanks
+jim McMillen Thanks Jim!
Will like to see witch one produces more torque
This actually worked on my 2012 CR-V with 215k miles! BUT use penetrating oil first,, let it soak it. Also turn the pressure up on your impact as much as it can handle. Even with that it took 60 seconds of continuous impact before it broke free.
Milwaukee 2767 gets that off in like 2 secs, no special socket needed. But beefy sockets are always preferred!
i just watched a video of a dude hammering on that bolt all day with the 2767. He got it but it took a long, long time. That socket makes a difference, no doubt
Gracias amigo
Removed my Acura mdx 02 crank bolt pully with regular 19mm and the Bauer electric from habour frieght $69 came off with ease something about electric impact guns that really work on these crank bolts
HI.from PORTUGAL
Great Videos you have
Can I use a wrench with only 180Nm(Bosch GDS 18v) with that socket to take my crank bolt off.
What do you think about the Metabo SSW 400 BL(new idea for a video?)
Thank you
Best Regards
Sometimes you need a 50MM Crankshaft Crank Pulley Wrench holder in addition to the Lisle Crank Bolt socket.
big difference thanks
+57chevy 5757 Thanks!
I think most air impact setups don't have enough air flow with 1/4 fittings, 3/8 air hose that is too long. Most videos have anemic sounding air impacts.
I took your advice on airflow. My setup is Ingersoll Rand 1/2" drive 2135TIMAX on regular impact socket, with 50' long, 1/2 diameter hose, 3/8" quick connect HF fitting. I set my 30 gallon air compressor to 120 PSI static. I broke my 2007 Accord 2.4L crank bolt loose to replace rusty oil pan. It took around 3 seconds. To verify it wasn't a fluke, I tried on my Mom's 07 Accord 2.4L. Same thing.
2.4 liter is the timing chain style engines. Most of the ones that are super tight are on the timing belt engines.
I'm impressed but have to try it for myself. Would normally use a 3/4 if not a 1 inch impact and will usually get the job done. But if this 1/2 inch socket gets the job done then it sure beats changing hoses for the bigger impacts
It shocked me.....I thought it was a gimmick, and this was the first time I ever used it. Worked as shown --- excellent!
Holy shit! Wow that’s crazy.
How good is you impact do you have a video of that impact
If you're Auto/Diesel Mechanic , you know this is Mechanical Engineer Physics plain and Simple.
I successfully removed mine using: 1. This Lisle or similar 19mm Crank socket, 2. Kroil Penetrating Oil sprayed twice a day over 3 days, 3. Heated the bolt area with a electric heat gun, 4. Removed with a Harbor Freight EarthQuake 1000 ft-lb Air Impact Wrench. I first tried with an electric Impact which was not up to the task.
superb! video, which part of country you live ?
nice! didn't know it was solid in the center
+singlecams Thanks! I didnt either until it showed up.....good to see a solid piece of steel with no welded on parts that could eventually fail. Yesterday was the first time I was able to actually use it & was amazed to see if work first-hand. Great design!
if you could watch in super slow motion you would see the standard socket flex and not delivering full torque the thick wall socket allows for no flex and all the torque to bolt I have been there with 3 different impacts and sockets the
Lisle 77060 17mm Harmonic Balancer Socket
worked in less than 1 minute. I am a believer in it
Amazing👍
what kind of spec drill do you need?
what is outer diameter of the special socket? thanks
Haha I use a makita 1/2 or milwaukee 1/2 high torque ❤️ lovely tools they bust nuts like a butter knife 🔪 through butter
This paired with M18 Milwaukee 1/2" High Torque Impact... do you think will do the trick?
Had the hardest time then I stumbled upon this vid. Well $h!t
Years ago I had a similar socket. I didn't really understand why the crank bolt needed a special socket. When I realized how much force is required to remove it, I punted on the task entirely. It was only years later I learned these sockets only have an advantage when hammered with an impact. Even Lisle's product description skips that. They much assume everyone just uses impacts.
Interesting observation…. Thank you!
Ingersoll Rand Power Socket!!
When i replaced the timing chain on my EP3 I needed a 2 meter breaker bar.. They are a pita!
+Luca Car Mods Wow....yeah I have done the jackstand, breaker bar, & pipe method.....this is way easier! ;)
+Real Tool Reviews I had to smile when you described this manual method in the video. It's the exact same way I've been doing it on various Hondas over the years right down to the 4 ft. pipe you mentioned. It works just fine but after I saw this tool used on South Main Auto awhile ago I ordered one. I haven't had a chance to use it yet but it was nice to see you confirm how well it works.
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Definitely will be using this tool the next time haha!
So what you're saying here is a lot of the force that the impact puts out is being absorbed by the thin wall socket vs the thick wall one is just not absorbing the impact shock and is transferring it the bolt? Cool video.
+Love2boat92 A normal socket is rattling where this thing slams into the bolt with a lot more force.....definitely surprised me with how well it worked.
Real Tool Reviews Very interesting.
The hammer is on the gun not on the socket, the heavy socket even reduce the force of the gun to the bolt, the reason it work better because it reduce spring action of the socket it self
It's simple Newtonian Physics: F=ma. The a is solely dependent on the impact and is a constant. The m is the mass of the socket. 4X the mass results in 4X the F.
+SATAMAN Schmidt Seeing is believing.....and honestly before I actually made this & saw it work, I was very skeptical.
+SATAMAN Schmidt
*Sir, I am familiar with Newton's formulation however my socket is not moving any distance so I am having a hard time following how we can put the acceleration of the socket into the above formula since it is not actually moving linearly. Does this acceleration you refer to involve angular something or other? Thank you for your time Sir.
a = v(squared) The socket is rotating with each impact of the impact wrench so it is moving angularly which is just the same as moving in a straight line from the standpoint of Newtonian physics. Nothing in space is moving in a straight line yet Newton's laws apply perfectly until we approach the speed of light. The Earth moving around the sun is little different than a socket moving around a bolt.
+SATAMAN Schmidt
Thank you Sir.
WOW that's for the info.....I never understood that about socket weight and sizes makes me look at my impacts differently now.
The Honda/Acura crank bolt is a humbling bolt.
😄
very nice
+freemanontheland24 Thanks!
My neighbor has tried everything to remove the Honda Crank Bolt, he has tried the LISLE 77080 Socket, impact wrenches, breaker bar with long arm extension, torch to heat the bolt. it just will Not break loose.
Good idea - are you going to show the repair on that Honda on your automotive repair channel ?
+Steve Rob he has another channel?
It's called "real auto repairs" just new but it's a premium channel with a premium guy. I like it . Check it out....
+Steve Rob Not that one....working on a lot of clips, but editing takes forever.....we have a couple cars coming up that I will be getting a lot of clips on (Honda & Subaru).
It can double as a sturgeon fishing weight.
Nice
+George S Thanks a lot George!
Would be good to know the specs of that impact wrench you' used here.
I need to buy one along with this tool but I'll likely never need to work on anything so difficult again. So would prefer to buy a mid-torque wrench for easier handling for other future uses. But if the only choice is one of the high torque 900-1000 N.M. behemoths then so be it. Just if I knew the tool you used here was only say 500 N.M. then I'd feel comfortable enough taking that gamble.
I’m not sure about the impact, but the weighted sockets ABSOLUTELY make a big difference!
Does this work on Toyota’s?
Which 20v cordless wrench should i get that has enough power to do this with lesli 77080? Thanks for the video
Which 1 did u use
Do you think the Ingersoll socket will remove crankshaft pulley boats? And has that round this towards the back of the socket I was worried it might not be long enough to get in side the pulley ?
+the eabster the IR doesn't work on all vehicles for the exact reason you mention --- the ring hits the frame on some vehicles. However this Lisle fits with no problems & is 1/3 the price....
Skidmore test, please!
+awQng89 I would like to! The problem is the socket size needed (2" socket).
Wonder if I can just wrap a normal impact socket with stick on wheel weights...hmmm
Hey can you do a review between the ingersoll brand 19mm power socket and the the Leslie 19mm crank socket?
I think every company is going cordless with just about anything they can produce and it is getting better and better. I have to wonder though because that CP cordless still looks eerily similar to the Ridgid line of cordless impacts. Battery packs look almost 100% identical. Has anyone figured out if there was a TTI connection for batteries and/or tools? Has to some partnership out there.
+kj197734 TTI makes the CP batteries for them....as far as the CP8848 & CP8848-2 go, it says right on the tool "MADE IN FRANCE" (CP headquarters)....so they are not making the impacts also.
+kj197734 Also.....fyi, the Ridgid batteries & CP batteries are NOT interchangeable (neither are the chargers....I have tried).
Real Tool Reviews Thanks for the updated information. I will probably give the CP line a try in the future.
do you think the earthquake xt 1/2" can handle this job with this socket?
If you look at his review of the earthquake xt vs a comparable snap on gun you see how impressive they are, pretty sure it could handle it.
I use my 1 in. air impact and regular socket for the same job and came off so fast the toll dropped to the ground, watched videos and expected all kinds of problems.
+Ed Ginsberg Yeah....1" is hard to beat!
Real Tool Reviews Thanks for doing the review man, I helped with the development of this tool man. So cool to see it work in the field!
Are you serious? That looks like some kind of magic. lol
is that the cp 8848 impact ? a future review coming up maybe ;) but do you think the Milwaukee would have removed that with just the regular socket ??
+patdud1979 Yep...good eye! It is still being put through testing.....once we have gotten a lot of use out it, it will be on the schedule. I would assume the Milwaukee would have.....but I didnt want to try it & screw up the chance to get this crank bolt socket clip ;)
+patdud1979 I have the Milwaukee, and the one single car I tried it on (with a regular impact socket), the Milwaukee was not able to loosen the bolt.
+wilkesjournal You and me both, buddy. Ordered the Lisle just now, I'll see on saturday if it works.
+Ivan Virovets Ivan, Was the Lisle socket able to loosen it?
I actually got impatient and broke it loose with an extension and a jack stand. We might never know!
can this work on electric impact(craftsman) with 330 ft/lb max torque do u think?
manu ginobli No.
Tnx for the reply.
Your other video showed the IR W7150 (2:03 here) removes the bolt with just a normal 19mm deep impact socket.
But in removing the bolt, you DID NOT use the IR W7150.
You used a red impact battery gun (2:14) with a normal 19mm deep impact socket.
Was the IR W7150 with normal 19mm deep impact socket couldn't remove it also?
I didn't try.....it was a different car, so no way of knowing IF the Ingersoll Rand could have removed it or not. This crank bolt socket works EXCELLENT!!! I thought it was a gimmick prior to making this video.
From how quickly his compressor kicked on....I am guessing it is a 10-15 gallon version (not much capacity) & although he set the regulator at 120psi -- normally stock regulators severely restrict airflow + 1/4" fittings + 50'+ (I am guessing) of airline = huge pressure drops. Most likely he was under 90 psi at the tool when under load. Check out my air pressure video to learn more ---> ruclips.net/video/MHx2EUWYzuM/видео.html
I came up with the same answers as you regarding that person equipment used.
Many thanks, again.
I'm ordering a 22mm to try to get my crank bolt off my 2004 Toyota Solara. I was about to take it to the dealership. The crank bolt's been on since the car was built 20 years ago . . .
Don’t use extensions/adapters and make sure you have enough air pressure during use (for pneumatic) or a high amp hour battery (for cordless).
Watch the videos I made called “torque vs Torque loss”, “air pressure : working vs static psi”, & “does size matter”.
what kind of magic is this
The 20 dollar kind!!!
🤣😂right? Sold!
What the hell kind of cordless impact wrench is that? I struggled to remove that crank bolt with an air gun, does that socket really made that much of a difference, that even a battery powered wrench can remove it?
+Vince Phan yes.....I thought it was a gimmick when I bought it.....I was pleasantly surprised.
I have a pnumatic husky 380 ft lb torque will that be enough to break the bolt with the socket you just demo?
If you turn the air pressure ALL the way up possibly....
Real Tool Reviews didnt work i have a 600ft lb coming from amazon. Thanks
Is that your yard? I noticed there were quite a few hondas.
+Dc2 Haha...nope....a friends shop. But yes, I do have a lot of Hondas ;)
How did you tighten it back up????
Cause the gun works to loosen but tightening it is starting to seem like a different story
Ruddy G. With the special 50mm pulley holder tool
I know what the book says however if you snug it up with the air gun centrifugal force will not allow the bolt to loosen, in my 25 years as a master tech I have done countless t belts and water pumps and never had any issues with the bolt coming loose
the weight of the socket makes the difference. the Physics law is: p = mv, m = mass of the socket, v is the speed of the spinning socket, p is linear momentum.
hey brother i try removing that bolt with my air gun and shit still wont budge, how strong is your impact, i might consider getting that socket if its lagit working.
I was shocked that it worked....I thought I was a gimmick. But, I was pleasantly surprised - this thing works! 👍
@@RealToolReviews You didn't answer the guys question, How strong is the impact wrench you used?
Do I still need this if I have a Milwaukee M18 2763-20?
+Calvin C. With some crank bolts....yes.
I used this, and mine just stripped. Bolt still hasn't budged.
You probably used the wrong size.
IR power socket
Does anyone know if tightening the bolt is the same as getting it loose? Do you the 50mm pulley holder?
You do if you plan to torque it correctly. Otherwise it will spin.
@@RealToolReviews
Thanks for the info.
Wait look at 2:34 , with standard 19mm.. it turn clockwise mean it tight it up , not removing... look at the torque pushing the impact to clockwise :)
It is similar to a saw blade or drill when watching a video.....at 30FPS, the camera cannot capture the real-time motion & many times things appear to be spinning in the opposite direction. I assure you everything was in reverse only.
Ok got it thanks :)
axenz axtiz good catch. I see that now it go clockwise. Scam. he get paid by lisle to sell this junk.
I watched that part multiple times. He clearly had it reverse if you pay CLOSE attention to the directional (reverse or foward) switch it stayed in the same position. Watch it again. That socket makes a difference.
Gene Friedman you are a moron.
Seems like a decent product if you work with Hondas. Last Honda crank bolt I had to open didn't open with regular 1/2" impact putting out 626 lb.ft of reverse torque . 3/4" impact with 1917 lb.ft of reverse torque opened it in 0,1 seconds...it's about the tools you use. :)
+JokariX You have that right ;) Nothing beats the right tool for the job!
Use the skidmore so we can see the difference.
+Tucker Flynn The problem is the bolts (3/4" aka 19mm).....the stretch above 120 ft-lbs....no accurate way to "prove anything" just yet with it unfortunately.
F = M x A
Mass and energy transfer go hand in hand.
So would this work with an automatic car where the crank pulley spins?
Yes. That is specifically what it is designed to remove.
So I wouldnt need a crank pulley holder? My car isn't manual so i cant just drop it in gear to stop the crank from moving, it'll just keep spinning left. You're positive it'll take off an AUTOMATIC car's pulley?
No....this is made to be used with an impact wrench.....the pulley holders are needed if you are using a breaker bar. It will remove it without holding anything (assuming your impact is adequate).
I know it needs to be used with an impact gun. I'm just skeptical about it working on automatic cars since the bolt will only spin with hand tools.
deflair lais you need the crank pulley holder tool anyway when you go to put the bolt back on and torque it to spec.
Physics is awesome...F=MA 3 times the mass 3 times the force brethren..
This amazing but probably not needed with new 1100 ft. pound cordless impacts. Some are 1400.
Dont believe everything that tool company marketing depts claim.....I have proven them wrong over & over.
naw i had an 1400 shit dont work
Real Tool Reviews a week ago I used a Milwaukee 2763 1/2” on a 2009 Accord crank bolt. 142,000 miles, first timing belt change. Regular socket. Spun it off like it was nothing. I don’t buy the marketing, but seeing the tool work with my own eyes, it was impressive. Granted, a $19 socket is a lot cheaper than a $250 impact, but the gun is way sexier. Guess which one I’m investing in?
What's Hondas factory torque spec on that bolt
+David G infinity plus 1
+David G Hernia + 300 ft-lbs to loosen......under 200 to install (14 ft-lbs + 90 degrees)
hahaha, 300 only? people make it sound like 1000? my local tire shop puts my lugs at like 300 haha Real Tool Reviews
300+a hernia = 1,000 ;) ...... Normally most impacts cannot budge them....its takes a LOT more power to remove one than it takes to install one.
wow
Maybe South Main Auto will get one LOL
+jim McMillen Haha....he actually used one in a video prior to me.....I had it here, but hadnt used it at that point.
A guy on RUclips made a what he called a "heavy" socket by wielding a 19 mm inside a larger socket.
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Ok, now how are you suppose to torgue the nut back to correct specs?
use an breaker bar