I feel so bad for Faith. As a trans girl, I can get the feeling that you'll never find love, or it'll take so long it might as well be forever, and specifically because of the disconnect between your body and your mind. I don't think I have an issue with people who prefer trans people (we're amazing and often have great insight into some parts of society people rarely interact with) but when he adds the penis part, it's just chaserism. If you don't love me for me, but me and my penis, you probably don't love me too much. Oh also, trans girl penises are a bit different, and it's fine to be into that, imo they're amazing, but again, only "loving" someone for their genitals is cringe. Also also, I've heard the term gynophilia, I don't think gynosexual, but specifically in reference to being attracted to femininity in men & women, i.e. femboys. Also also also, yeah, the suddenly polyamorous shit is wack. I'm also polyamorous, but currently in a monogamous relationship because I love my partner more than enough to avoid any worries an open relationship could cause him. I can understand if there are people who aren't like that, I didn't used to be, but you simply can't be polyamorous without telling your partner, and being very clear about it *before* it happens. This man is just cheating.
Just from this video, I get the impression that she's pretty young, too... it feels so gross and upsetting that some nasty American dude lying to and trying to use this girl is mass entertainment. I really hope she's gonna be okay.
Her family especially her sister who is also trans say that she should basically be grateful for him wanting to be with her. I think Loren should leave Faith & get with the sister.
I appreciate this comment and your insight. I always say I don’t rule out M2F or F2M in life- it would depend on the person/connection etc as I’m mostly straight but consider myself open minded, point being- trans people aren’t commodities, and unique beyond gender identity. Ironically I typed that part before reading your entire comment and see you seem similar with open minded to possibilities in relationships and I’m happy for you that you found love. I totally relate as I’m currently in a monogamous relationship and it’s been great where I was in an open amazing relationship with a man who tragically passed away in 2020.. I always say it’s never a band aid and would need to be discussed prior to intimacy, and certainly isn’t for everyone. I’m appalled by the focus on what’s in between legs over the actual person from Loren but LMAO & touché to “imo lady 🍆 is amazing and all 💅🏼” - I’ll take your word as I personally can’t say but to your partner, good for yall. 🤣 Loren tho how this creature has gotten any gender of human in the sack, FAITH WE HAVE FAITH YOULL GET BETTER GIRL BARS LOW AND YALL DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER. 🏳️⚧️❤️
What if later down the road, she starts looking into bottom surgery? He 100% would pressure her to not go through with it for his own desires, even if it were what is right for her.
I only deal with a tiny % of the nonsense, but I get misgendered & mis-categorized often (I’ve been in a “crying game” situation where my cis parts were the surprise! Lots of laughter for both of us, luckily), and the chasers are the worst. Even the most forward trans person is respectful & I like dating trans people so it’s all good, but I don’t like the sociology of cis het men where I live (maga maga maga), so I don’t dare straight cis guys. The chasers ignore any preferences they see & don’t even read my bio where I clarify that I’m cis (my face is naturally masc, my body is femme, I’m pan so it’s all good). They are generally looking for free sex workers not relationships. Haha, dudes, leave me alone but pass my info to your cute trans ex 😉
Straight up used her for trying to get citizenship and because he was on a situation before where he was married or was going to marry someone’s grandmother back home and he was living in like a drug den basically as discussed on panel with shabooty. Because at first I thought this was excellent production. He’s the villain he wants to get citizenship. It’s something we haven’t seen before in the 90 day universe, but to put your name out there and be portrayed as a villain for the rest of your life how can you redeem yourself? You put a target on your back. And I generally think he’s broken NDA at this point by going on podcast and by also going on panels with different people. But the network as we’ve seen before, will do what they wanna do for ratings just like they did with Angela and Michael. It really adds suspicion though if that woman is his ex-wife and she is just helping him get to the Philippines so that he doesn’t have to pay child support so I’m hoping that that is someone else and that his kids mother.
Loren is a "Western dropout" and probably a "sexpat" (which, personally, is one of the best words in the entire language and I am a linguist. The amount of information communicated in that small word is incredible)
I get the sense that you are mono, as a non- mono I just wanna say thank you for using your platform for normalizing not just a range of relationship structures but also that communication is the foundation of any healthy dynamic. Keep doing the good work
@millo7295 but to be more specific, the word polyamory was I think coined in like the 70s, but non monogamous relationships have existed across time and cultures
He was taking medication I think he caught it close to going to meet Faith so was part way through treating it. He did say he cheated pretty much every week until flying
What's worse is "Gynosexual" used to be an insulting term used by a discredited researcher back in the early days of trans studies as a term for trans women. It was used to claim trans women only transition for "deviant sexual fantasies", which makes him using that as a new term for being a chaser even more sickening.
@sirmagmo4710 oh yeah as a filthy AGP trans woman in his eyes, I am unfortunately veryyyy aware of Blanchard and his weird fetishistic view of trans women being the basis of trans studies in the modern era. He just could never get over that there was trans women who didnt want to sleep with him so he decided to say we were the "bad" trans women. Lmao im sure Loren thinks the exact same thing 💀
@sirmagmo4710 You're confusing gynosexual with autogynophilia. Gynosexual is a term used to refer to someone's attraction to femininity, so they would be attracted to fem presenting people regardless of gender. It's existed before chasers were co-opting it. Of course he's not really gynosexual, he's just a chaser.
The truth is if you’re lucky enough to get into relationship, we’re just treated like that we call them admirers sometimes we get desperate loneliness sucks I just don’t date
New subscriber and I hate Loren too. He’s human garbage. Faith is so lovely, kind and hardworking and family oriented. I hope faith finds a good kind person to love her as she deserves ❤
I really hope if anything this show opens up new doors regarding real love, money and internal acceptance of self for Faith, to scratch the surface. It breaks my heart to see how hard she is on herself when it’s so apparent what a genuine person she is, she just needs to lose Loseren permanently.
11:07- I’m the same way- EXCEPT when it comes to Chick-fil-A. I refuse to support them since they have proven themselves to be shady AF in multiples categories. But I love trying different foods. ❤️
Hey Max!!! I just want you to know that you're the best youtuber I've come across in a looong time!! Listening to your insightful comments and peaceful voice is just so precious 🎉❤
As a trans person, Lauren is 110% a chaser, so many red flags. As someone who's poly, what Lauren did was absolutely cheating, saying your poly isn't an excuse to sleep around, it's something you need to communicate with your partner, discuss your boundaries, it takes so much communication to make sure everyone is comfortable and is ok with what's happening. He's disgusting. Faith is an absolute angel and deserves so much better than him.
In fairness, I don’t think Loren knew he had the STD until after he left the states and started exhibiting symptoms. When he asked Faith if they would be sharing a room “when he got there”, he didn’t know he had it.
That's still his own fault. Men need to get checked regularly. That's their responsibility of they are going to sleep around. Ew. Why would you even make an excuse?
@ I’m not making an “excuse”. I’m simply pointing out that Loren didn’t know he had it when he had the initial phone conversation with Faith, as asserted by the narrator, which wasn’t true. Side note - How many men do you know that are reckless enough to sleep around without protection but are then somehow responsible enough to “get checked regularly”? I sure haven’t met any.
He knew he was sleeping around and didn't tell her when he asked that, though. STD or not, he was actively engaging in risky behaviour and keeping that knowledge from people he was putting at risk.
@ yes, of course all that is true, but has nothing to do with my original point - which was simply that this reaction channel misstated the facts regarding Loren’s prior knowledge of his STD when discussing upcoming hotel accommodations with Faith.
Did you say you watched this show??? That lady you keep saying is Loren's X wife Isn't his X Wife. She is a friend. Loren's X wife doesn't like him as she won't pay child support. she would NOT be buying gifts for Faith. Come on hun If you are making videos get the info right x Good try
Before I watch much imma say my peace. Everyone has genital preferences. And that’s ok. They’re still gay/straight/bi/pan/ace/etc. there are bi people who prefer one specific type of equipment for one reason or another. So a straight man preferring women with penises is valid. As long as he recognizes them as women and loves them. I understand that this could potentially be someone who could have been a gay man, but social stigma trained him to be attracted to feminine/womanly traits. Or maybe too much femboy/futa hentai growing up developed this sexual preference. Regardless it’s how he identifies now.
Stigma exists and can twist the brain in ways that take a lot of time and emotional energy to unpack, yeah, but I've gotta hard disagree with the argument that being a Chaser (with ALL this man's baggage explicitly included) is valid _because_ stigma exists. There are two whole human beings in the equation here. I get sketched out when trauma is used to validate identity at the expense of others. She's an entire person, maybe she's been through some things too. Maybe being objectified this way is psychologically harmful to her, would that not matter as a formative part of her identity? Why does this man's identity as a chaser have to be validated (practically meaning excused) in the first place? Is that not setting off any alarm bells??? She's a woman. If you literally just treat her like any other woman, imho the misogyny becomes clear as day. Shows like this scare me.
@ I’m not saying being a chaser is valid. I’m saying that having a genital preference is. This dude is scum. People should absolutely care about who their partner is before they care about what equipment their partner is working with. As long as they aren’t objectifying and fetishizing their partner, a genital preference is ok in my eyes. Sorry I didn’t get into the issue with chasers in my original comment. I’m a bit sick and wacky in the brain rn
It might be ok if he weren't the type of person to poach someone before they've finished transitioning and then pressure them to "just keep this one part for me." People like him target young nieve individuals with low self-confidence for a reason. He wants to help her find herself so that he can have some control over who she becomes.
Loren's ex-wife is named Cheyenne & he calls her a succubus. He refuses to pay child support for their 2 kids. I don't think they're friends.
Yeah a few people have mentioned this I either misunderstood or misremembered something from the start of the season
I feel so bad for Faith. As a trans girl, I can get the feeling that you'll never find love, or it'll take so long it might as well be forever, and specifically because of the disconnect between your body and your mind. I don't think I have an issue with people who prefer trans people (we're amazing and often have great insight into some parts of society people rarely interact with) but when he adds the penis part, it's just chaserism. If you don't love me for me, but me and my penis, you probably don't love me too much.
Oh also, trans girl penises are a bit different, and it's fine to be into that, imo they're amazing, but again, only "loving" someone for their genitals is cringe.
Also also, I've heard the term gynophilia, I don't think gynosexual, but specifically in reference to being attracted to femininity in men & women, i.e. femboys.
Also also also, yeah, the suddenly polyamorous shit is wack. I'm also polyamorous, but currently in a monogamous relationship because I love my partner more than enough to avoid any worries an open relationship could cause him. I can understand if there are people who aren't like that, I didn't used to be, but you simply can't be polyamorous without telling your partner, and being very clear about it *before* it happens. This man is just cheating.
Just from this video, I get the impression that she's pretty young, too... it feels so gross and upsetting that some nasty American dude lying to and trying to use this girl is mass entertainment. I really hope she's gonna be okay.
Her family especially her sister who is also trans say that she should basically be grateful for him wanting to be with her.
I think Loren should leave Faith & get with the sister.
I appreciate this comment and your insight. I always say I don’t rule out M2F or F2M in life- it would depend on the person/connection etc as I’m mostly straight but consider myself open minded, point being- trans people aren’t commodities, and unique beyond gender identity. Ironically I typed that part before reading your entire comment and see you seem similar with open minded to possibilities in relationships and I’m happy for you that you found love. I totally relate as I’m currently in a monogamous relationship and it’s been great where I was in an open amazing relationship with a man who tragically passed away in 2020.. I always say it’s never a band aid and would need to be discussed prior to intimacy, and certainly isn’t for everyone. I’m appalled by the focus on what’s in between legs over the actual person from Loren but LMAO & touché to “imo lady 🍆 is amazing and all 💅🏼” - I’ll take your word as I personally can’t say but to your partner, good for yall. 🤣 Loren tho how this creature has gotten any gender of human in the sack, FAITH WE HAVE FAITH YOULL GET BETTER GIRL BARS LOW AND YALL DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER. 🏳️⚧️❤️
What if later down the road, she starts looking into bottom surgery? He 100% would pressure her to not go through with it for his own desires, even if it were what is right for her.
It's nice to see a comment from someone who is from the community in question.
I hope you're happy now and in the future.
As a trans woman I am glad to see Loren getting so much deserved criticism of his chaser behavior.
I only deal with a tiny % of the nonsense, but I get misgendered & mis-categorized often (I’ve been in a “crying game” situation where my cis parts were the surprise! Lots of laughter for both of us, luckily), and the chasers are the worst. Even the most forward trans person is respectful & I like dating trans people so it’s all good, but I don’t like the sociology of cis het men where I live (maga maga maga), so I don’t dare straight cis guys. The chasers ignore any preferences they see & don’t even read my bio where I clarify that I’m cis (my face is naturally masc, my body is femme, I’m pan so it’s all good). They are generally looking for free sex workers not relationships. Haha, dudes, leave me alone but pass my info to your cute trans ex 😉
I.... I genuinely dont know what I feel when Loren talks, but it just feels icky. Like this dude is a predator
Yes 100% the vibe he gives whenever he opens his mouth
Straight up used her for trying to get citizenship and because he was on a situation before where he was married or was going to marry someone’s grandmother back home and he was living in like a drug den basically as discussed on panel with shabooty. Because at first I thought this was excellent production. He’s the villain he wants to get citizenship. It’s something we haven’t seen before in the 90 day universe, but to put your name out there and be portrayed as a villain for the rest of your life how can you redeem yourself? You put a target on your back. And I generally think he’s broken NDA at this point by going on podcast and by also going on panels with different people. But the network as we’ve seen before, will do what they wanna do for ratings just like they did with Angela and Michael. It really adds suspicion though if that woman is his ex-wife and she is just helping him get to the Philippines so that he doesn’t have to pay child support so I’m hoping that that is someone else and that his kids mother.
Loren is a "Western dropout" and probably a "sexpat" (which, personally, is one of the best words in the entire language and I am a linguist. The amount of information communicated in that small word is incredible)
I love learning new words thank you
I get the sense that you are mono, as a non- mono I just wanna say thank you for using your platform for normalizing not just a range of relationship structures but also that communication is the foundation of any healthy dynamic. Keep doing the good work
@millo7295 like.. as a concept? Forever ish
@millo7295 but to be more specific, the word polyamory was I think coined in like the 70s, but non monogamous relationships have existed across time and cultures
Poly is shorter than “non-mono” btw…
@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory not all non mono is poly :)
He can treat gonorrhea, why didn't he just take care of it before he went?
Man literally won't do the bare minimum
He was taking medication I think he caught it close to going to meet Faith so was part way through treating it.
He did say he cheated pretty much every week until flying
He learned he had it after he got to the Philippines
So I can confirm (my wife is trans!) that stuff does change with hormones (smell, etc etc etc), super cool!
Thank you for the research !
@@Maximmmino best reply to a comment ever. Thank you for this.😂
They need to stop giving these horrible people a platorm.
you'd be better off banning reality tv
Gynosexual is an insane new chaser term lmao
What's worse is "Gynosexual" used to be an insulting term used by a discredited researcher back in the early days of trans studies as a term for trans women. It was used to claim trans women only transition for "deviant sexual fantasies", which makes him using that as a new term for being a chaser even more sickening.
@sirmagmo4710 oh yeah as a filthy AGP trans woman in his eyes, I am unfortunately veryyyy aware of Blanchard and his weird fetishistic view of trans women being the basis of trans studies in the modern era. He just could never get over that there was trans women who didnt want to sleep with him so he decided to say we were the "bad" trans women. Lmao im sure Loren thinks the exact same thing 💀
@sirmagmo4710
You're confusing gynosexual with autogynophilia. Gynosexual is a term used to refer to someone's attraction to femininity, so they would be attracted to fem presenting people regardless of gender. It's existed before chasers were co-opting it.
Of course he's not really gynosexual, he's just a chaser.
@@wrazzberrie1197 Ah, right. Thanks for the correction, I made that comment at 1am so my brain wasn't working properly lmao
I feel so bad for Faith. I hope she finds someone better.
Loren is the definition of taking l's forever
He should legally add an L to his first name after each one
Loren is very creepy. I can’t watch clips with him I get so uncomfy 🤢
The truth is if you’re lucky enough to get into relationship, we’re just treated like that we call them admirers sometimes we get desperate loneliness sucks I just don’t date
Loren, Gino and Little Ed are wild. It’s like watching a trash fire when they open their mouths. 😂
Little Ed!!!
I hate that they put people like this on the show. Faith deserves better.
What about Big Ed and Angela? I need your take on them too XD.
no. ive seen enough of them.
I have so many opinions
New subscriber and I hate Loren too. He’s human garbage. Faith is so lovely, kind and hardworking and family oriented. I hope faith finds a good kind person to love her as she deserves ❤
One word to describe Loren "CREEP"
Don't worry, boo, I DO!
Thank you for your service
Gynosexuality is an attraction to feminity in general, lets not spread misinformation.
I really hope if anything this show opens up new doors regarding real love, money and internal acceptance of self for Faith, to scratch the surface. It breaks my heart to see how hard she is on herself when it’s so apparent what a genuine person she is, she just needs to lose Loseren permanently.
Some people will really go on live television and just say whatever they want without any shame Huh.
11:07- I’m the same way- EXCEPT when it comes to Chick-fil-A. I refuse to support them since they have proven themselves to be shady AF in multiples categories. But I love trying different foods. ❤️
Hey Max!!! I just want you to know that you're the best youtuber I've come across in a looong time!! Listening to your insightful comments and peaceful voice is just so precious 🎉❤
Thank you so much
As a trans person, Lauren is 110% a chaser, so many red flags.
As someone who's poly, what Lauren did was absolutely cheating, saying your poly isn't an excuse to sleep around, it's something you need to communicate with your partner, discuss your boundaries, it takes so much communication to make sure everyone is comfortable and is ok with what's happening.
He's disgusting. Faith is an absolute angel and deserves so much better than him.
That girlfriend test was bizarre!
amazing pull /pos
We need to talk about your mustache
There should have been a conversation about monogamy at the beginning of the relationship.
In fairness, I don’t think Loren knew he had the STD until after he left the states and started exhibiting symptoms. When he asked Faith if they would be sharing a room “when he got there”, he didn’t know he had it.
That's still his own fault. Men need to get checked regularly. That's their responsibility of they are going to sleep around. Ew. Why would you even make an excuse?
@ I’m not making an “excuse”. I’m simply pointing out that Loren didn’t know he had it when he had the initial phone conversation with Faith, as asserted by the narrator, which wasn’t true. Side note - How many men do you know that are reckless enough to sleep around without protection but are then somehow responsible enough to “get checked regularly”? I sure haven’t met any.
He knew he was sleeping around and didn't tell her when he asked that, though. STD or not, he was actively engaging in risky behaviour and keeping that knowledge from people he was putting at risk.
@ yes, of course all that is true, but has nothing to do with my original point - which was simply that this reaction channel misstated the facts regarding Loren’s prior knowledge of his STD when discussing upcoming hotel accommodations with Faith.
Btw, what earphones are those and where did you buy them and how much were they??
They are the apple airpods max my sister bought them for a lot more than I'd pay for headphones but they work very well
that isnt his ex wife, thats a friend that he dated, His ex wife is blond i think. He has a kid too
Yea that he isn't paying to support & fleeing abroad means he has no intention of paying support or seeing.
Did you say you watched this show??? That lady you keep saying is Loren's X wife Isn't his X Wife. She is a friend. Loren's X wife doesn't like him as she won't pay child support. she would NOT be buying gifts for Faith. Come on hun If you are making videos get the info right x Good try
Before I watch much imma say my peace. Everyone has genital preferences. And that’s ok. They’re still gay/straight/bi/pan/ace/etc. there are bi people who prefer one specific type of equipment for one reason or another. So a straight man preferring women with penises is valid. As long as he recognizes them as women and loves them.
I understand that this could potentially be someone who could have been a gay man, but social stigma trained him to be attracted to feminine/womanly traits. Or maybe too much femboy/futa hentai growing up developed this sexual preference. Regardless it’s how he identifies now.
Ok I watched it and this guy is scum. But I think my point stands
Stigma exists and can twist the brain in ways that take a lot of time and emotional energy to unpack, yeah, but I've gotta hard disagree with the argument that being a Chaser (with ALL this man's baggage explicitly included) is valid _because_ stigma exists.
There are two whole human beings in the equation here. I get sketched out when trauma is used to validate identity at the expense of others. She's an entire person, maybe she's been through some things too. Maybe being objectified this way is psychologically harmful to her, would that not matter as a formative part of her identity?
Why does this man's identity as a chaser have to be validated (practically meaning excused) in the first place? Is that not setting off any alarm bells???
She's a woman. If you literally just treat her like any other woman, imho the misogyny becomes clear as day.
Shows like this scare me.
@ I’m not saying being a chaser is valid. I’m saying that having a genital preference is. This dude is scum. People should absolutely care about who their partner is before they care about what equipment their partner is working with. As long as they aren’t objectifying and fetishizing their partner, a genital preference is ok in my eyes.
Sorry I didn’t get into the issue with chasers in my original comment. I’m a bit sick and wacky in the brain rn
Yeah no… seeing a group of people as nothing but your fetishize isnt valid whatsoever. Don’t care what he was or what he watched
It might be ok if he weren't the type of person to poach someone before they've finished transitioning and then pressure them to "just keep this one part for me." People like him target young nieve individuals with low self-confidence for a reason. He wants to help her find herself so that he can have some control over who she becomes.