MAXIMINO... I don't know the rules of RUclips, but I think you need to blur out the word from her texts. I don't want you to get... I forget what RUclips infractions are called.
And she claims she went to nursing school... Race plays a huge part in genetics and how someone's body can react to disease, disorders, medicine etc. Id never let her teach anybody I know anything at all.
@@Long_May_They_RaineAlso not a girl, and are you a black person for that, and if not every black person wants to be miss/in/appropriated from? Animals who become disabled by colonialism, are also klled for it and/or any inconvenience? Also smoking is also harmful and bypassing issues with it?
I have NEVER accidentally eaten meat, I have eaten vegetables by accident, but then again I have NEVER considered being a vegetarian or vegan. I agree that Greta would be like Will Smith on Chris Rock, the only difference Greta would be saying "Witch, keep my name out your mouth!" or something like that.
I'm a vegetarian and also handicapped. I've been harassed for both things but the things people said about me being a "cripple" hurt far more than being insulted for being a vegetarian. Why? I chose to be a vegetarian and am proud of it. I did NOT choose to have cancer and become disabled. It hurts more to be attacked over something that was completely out of my control than something I am actually extremely proud of. As a side note, I am proud of being a cancer survivor, but being called a cripple with nasty connotations inferred makes me feel insignificant. There is a huge difference and her pretending it's about her diet is scapegoating.
The thing about reclaiming words is that it takes *YEARS* to do and not everyone in the category will agree with it. Take the term, Queer... it's a reclaimed word but not everyone in the LGBTQ+ will view it as such. More and more people are warming up to it, but that's not something that just happened over night with a vote. So yes, an old lady who isn't in the group cannot just ask 'hey is this reclaimed yet?'
Seriously, I embrace it because it also fits that I am simply not a “normal” person, but many people in the same community still are hurt by it so it’s not something that should be pushed on them.
i remember being a closeted middle schooler who wasn't even aware of his own queerness, thinking "why are they using that word if they want to be seen as normal?" and now i call myself that proudly.
This woman is only two years older than me, so I KNOW she grew up with groundbreaking shows like: Maude, Sanford and Son, All in the Family, the Jeffersons. She knows better. All those shows in the 70’s educated us about racism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, ableism. Those of us in our fifties know better.
It’s what happens when you place a certain issue above everything else. She MIGHT hate black people, but she would absolutely bring back slavery if it Meant deconstructing the animal product industry
37:13 is she seriously saying she wants indigenous or Indian children to “reclaim” the n-word???? Girl they got their own slurs why you assigning them a new one 😭
Caring about animals is all well and good... but this woman falls into the trap of "vegan who exaggerates any point they may have to the point that no one can take her seriously"
I love the stardew pfp 100% she's a caricature of the wacky victim vegan stereotype and it just detracts from any good point she may ever make and does not help the movement at all
"We need to reclaim it" no YOU don’t. YOU’RE not apart of this wtf. This is the most complex way of someone saying ‘I just wanna say the N-word w/o pushback’ I’ve ever seen
i love how she's so afraid to say the word black and constantly calls all black people "dark skinned" or "the dark skinned community" - like she didn't JUST say there are different shades of skin for black people like 😭😭 girl please sit down and think before you yap
When I came out as gay, I was very much influenced to do it to let my then-fiance know why I was breaking up with him despite the fact that I lost my family for nearly a decade because of it…. Yep. TOTALLY selfish!
came out as trans to a guy i liked at my school, stopped being friends with him for some reason, and now im terrified of being outed. the most selfish thing ive ever done ig
I wonder if someone should tell her the ethnoreligion most affected by the holocust in Germany and the religion that started the whole circumcision thing are the same group Probably not, she'll make it about pigs again
when she was like "yeah the holocaust was bad, and its bad to mutilate the genitals of children" my gast was flabbered. both statements are true but they absolutely shouldn't be said back to back. like. i know shes making a big point of being all "i dont see race" but i know she knows who the holocaust happened to*, and she HAS to know that that group of people rather famously ritually circumcises their young boys to signify a pact with god. saying "the holocaust was bad, and so is circumcision" really makes it sound like you're about to blame a group of people for something that happened to them... *for the most part - the roma, gay and trans people, mentally and physically disabled people, and other marginalized groups also got caught up in it but not to the extent that the jewish people did
Something that some people get wrong a lot is that no, we are not banning words. You can say slurs. You can. It’s legal. But a hell of a lot of people are not going to want to talk to you, not going to want to employ you, not going to want you in the public eye, and are going to call you bigoted. There’s a big difference.
a lot of people don't understand the difference between censorship and criticism. while you can say whatever you want, people have every right to respond to you however they want and it just so happens that spewing hate makes most people uncomfortable or angry (and reasonably so) and facing pushback for your words is not censorship
The problem I have with TVT is that she acts as if she is always a victim. She always plays the victim card, as if she hasn’t done anything wrong. She compares things that have nothing to do with each other and acts if she’s made a point by comparing the two things.
Actually what they say is objectively correct when the truth and yes, also, as more or less a Greek person, when Greek people were also in the h0l0caust, agriculture is the biggest ongoing one and by colonialism, too?
@ WTF are you saying? Am I disputing what vegans are talking about, also WTF do the Greeks have to do with anything I have said? I just voiced my complaint about the way TVT portrays herself, she has a victim mentality.
she reminds me of christians that think because they are a 'good Christian' that they are always right and incaperble of causing harm becasue of that one quality you can be harming people and being racist homophobic ect and be helping the animals and you still me a net bad person
Vrong Extra stupid Grasping for straws at any argument Annoying (again) No fucking way you thought saying slurs won't have consequences and all vegans agree with you on that, lady
@ I was trying to be family friendly for Max’s sake. If RUclips didn’t feel the need to censor us I would have been a lot more honest about how I feel.
Fun fact, plants do in fact, feel pain They have multiple sensory organs in their body that range from photo receptors and Many other sensors that detect things like touch and heat and why they can’t actually hear they can feel vibrations through sound I don’t remember where I heard this from whether I read it or not, but I’m pretty sure there was a study done along time ago where they documented with a brain analyzer how plants react to environmental changes, including how they react when another plant burns and they do, indeed feel pain in the same way anyone else feels pain
they also seem to express fear from the sound of rabbits chewing on grass and wilt to try to protect themselves from being eaten. and the smell of onion is a defense mechanism.
The fact that the first letter of each word is written in a different color makes it apparent she wrote the letters first, then filled it out in blue marker at a later time
33:02 I'm disabled in a way that makes trying to be vegan a bad decision for me. Unless I could hire a dietician and a cook, it wouldn't be accessible for me to learn to plan and prepare a whole new, nutritionally balanced diet that I'm willing to eat. I've tried to be vegetarian. I got sick and starved and had to quit.
I've had similar issues simply trying to increase how many greens are in my diet. Wasn't even trying to go vegetarian or anything. Just more greens. I ended up eating so much because I was just hungry all the time.
@@IceFireofVoid I had way better results with the 25/25/50 rule. 1/4 of your plate protein, 1/4 starchy root vegetables (preferably mixed, carrots, potatoes, parsnips, turnips, etc) and 1/2 plate leafy greens. I follow it up with a fiber supplement to keep myself from wanting to scarf down fried food.
The amount of judgement I got from vegans for not going vegan when I was still on a low-residue diet after multiple major abdominal surgeries was astonishing to me. Sure, maybe now that I can eat over 10 grams of fiber in a day, but at that point in time I wouldn’t have recovered at all under a vegan diet since there’s no way to achieve a low residue vegan diet that also provides sufficient nutrition for wound healing… Plus all the claims that I was only injuring myself worse and making myself sicker because of eating two eggs a day…
This woman screams "I have no unique aspect intrinsic to my character, so I'm going to latch onto this ideology and use it to make myself as important and worthy of attention as the people who have actual struggles in life," Like the lgbt bs is literally "Yeah I know queer teens and young adults can be abused. made homeless, or even murdered, and that adults being open about their identities normalizes queerness and makes society safer for those at risk teens- but I think eating animals is bad so I'm more important" instead of idk, making the valid comparison that smaller personal actions (being our/ refraining from animal products) can be small but profound ways to impact a larger system that seems out of our control. But then again, that would imply her being part of the whole and not the sole arbiter of judgment of people in marginalized communities.
I'd heard of the Vegan Teacher and that she was awful but holy crap that opening. I've only been watching for 16 minutes and ive lost count of how many times I've said "Oooh my God!"
32:31 did she really just reference Robin Williams as though there was any kind of shame in what he did? Was it tragic that he died the way he did? Of course it was, but he went out on his terms rather than live with his condition. Having seen my Grandma suffer with Lewy Body dementia and completely hallucinating awful things happening to her, I can see why he didn’t want to live with that. Then this witch decides to compare her reading people calling her racist with his experience 😢.
Bruh. I'm embroiled in this because I told someone on the internet that calling someone fruity was derogatory and not too kind. Now I'm a sensitive snowflake. And the problem because we live in the age where everyone gets a participation trophy. Literally those were the responses. If someone tells me something makes them uncomfortable I thank them for sharing with me and don't say it anymore. These people can't even handle an ounce of feedback and have to manipulate, gaslight, and blow things up. So0o0o who is sensitive?
@Maximmmino its seems futile cause you can't even have a conversation. Also she's not being censored? She's just having consequences for her actions. The mental gymnastics is wild. I can't believe you watched even more of this than we did. Lol
I think it says a lot about a person if they think saying whatever they want on principle is more important than showing respect and kindness to others
She has control issues. She doesn’t want to enlighten anyone, she demands that people believe everything she believes. And how can it be so important to say offensive slurs and call it censorship if other people don’t like it. Censorship also applies to government overreach not private businesses (platforms) saying that they can’t say something while using their platforms, or a store owner saying their behavior is not acceptable in their business isn’t censorship. I just want to tell her not to demand certain behaviors out of others but never criticize her.
I could just imagine her as a school teacher telling grade school kids it’s ok to say the N word, then all those kids use the N word out loud in public repeatedly just like that SpongeBob episode “Sailor mouth” My god that would be hilarious 😅
I think she's trying to start a new alt-right pipeline of her own or something. Charitable version is she has a complete in ability to introspect. But I'm erring towards the prior view because she should have figured it out already. She hasn't because there's an ulterior motive.
I love how when people talk about "should we be banning words?" they never go into why something is "banned" like you can legally say the N word or the F slur or C word but people may not want to associate with you anymore because it's a word with a lot of history and implications.
Anyone can be a person who is not racist or homophobic or classist and say something that is considered offensive in any way. It’s not something to double down on though, it’s something to apologize for and stop saying.
Being lgbtq isn't a choice, you are born to be lgbtq but being vegan is entirely a choice. That the vegan teacher doesn't understand that baffling but not shocking
Tabitha Coffey did something similar with the word bitch in a Ted talk, but the difference is that people called Tabitha a bitch and she turned it around for herself, whereas TVT is telling other people to do it.
I wasn’t even looking when she spelt out the anagram. I was making coffee, heard her say each word and as my brain clued it all it I just said “you bitch.”
With proper context, I do think kids should see where their meat comes from and respect the gift it is. Friends had a farm, we would all help out when it was harvest time. Even the kids. It was not glorified, but it was also not terrifying.
I agree I think gordon raises a lot of his own animals with his kids Which is great I feel like she is more on the side of wanting to traumatize kids out of eating meat and that doesn't help anyone
@@Maximmminoi do think being vegan is just better than not being vegan. like there’s literally just an obvious and sort of undeniable moral claim to it. but yeah scare tactics and fear based rhetoric are not just bad for people but they’re also ineffective
@@tonoornottonofr we need to start educating kids on the meat industries and how a lot of awful shit does happen so we can work towards changing. More people would probably chose to be vegetarian/vegan if they were properly educated on the subject
This woman shouldn't be a teacher, she has no respect for anyone and she's a bad example for children. I don't agree with circumsicion either but I don't act all crazy because of it.
I might would feel sorry for her if she was any other person. She has spent her entire if not most of her youtube career being cruel to people, made it her bread and butter. Now she's getting flustered and upset? You of all people say you love all when you actively have gone out of your way to attack others and make them feel like shit? No. You don't get sympathy nor empathy. If you were any other person who treated and spoke to your peers like a decent person I would empathize and sympathize with how you're feeling but my dear, this is karma and you have earned every bitter bite of it that's being fed to you.
She wouldn’t have the guts to say it face to face, in front of a black person. She does it from the safety of her own home or car, that’s how you know she doesn’t believe her own words. She just cares about attention.
It's amazing that she says to keep an open mind, learn, use critical thinking skills, be compassionate, etc and she does none of that herself. Also was she a Sunday school teacher or does Canada not have separation of church and state?
My husband used to work in a pork plant. The pigs were all very calm on the way to the gassing. The pigs being upset or anxious changes the quality of the meat. She's wrong. Part of the process is to be as kind as possible to the animals at the end of their lives.
@@AcanthaDante the gas puts them to sleep and they are slaughtered on the other side of it. It's kind of the same as stunning. Cows aren't the same and there are certain practices with cows that I find repulsive. Seems like everything out of her mouth is a lie or an exaggeration.
I’m a vegetarian myself, but I absolutely agree the ideal should be treating the animals more humanely rather than avoid eating them altogether as a species. The circle of life is there for a reason, but it’s not an excuse to abuse the food that hurts it and the humans who consume it
I feel your laughing in cringe. I first yelled "nooooo.....no no no stop" them started laughing bc its so fucking baaaaaad. I did the @funkyfrogbait cringing on her couch. 😅 I really find ppl trying so hard to be edgy si cringe.
Her bringing up “All these other issues are happening! Why are you mad I was being racist!” is such a childish way of arguing. Yes these other bad things are happening, you still deserve to be called out. Then her going “You’re jealous about my 1.7 mil followers!” is such a showcase of her immaturity. Vegan Teacher is a disgusting person who clearly wants vegans/ veganism to be the more oppressed than any minority. She has no clue what she is actually saying and is to up her own ass to realize that she is bigoted.
Does TVT know that bees can leave your hive if they don’t find it beneficial? No one is caging bees in a hive and beating them or anything going “gimme your honey!”
I'm not vegan (vegetarian) but it sucks because this lady makes me feel a bit nervous about saying I'm vegetarian, because of the reputation this lady's given us. I know some vegans and other vegetarians in real life and everybody hates her, and now there are many people who see her as the face of anti-animal cruelty and meatless diets.
This woman is just a grifter is what it is. She has no actual stance, and the only thing she wants from people and her own audience is praise. Shes a hypocrite through and through. One day she supports gay people and then afterwards are saying they are being selfish
1:06:24 Remembering the school one I was "taught" [I copied it] which was roughly "Oh, you're calling me a b!tch? Well technically you're calling me a female dog, and what does a female dog do? Bark. What is bark? Part of a tree. What is a tree? Nature. What is nature? Beautiful. So technically you're calling me beautiful." Yikes.. thems the days, for sure..
This looks like a really edgy motivational poster designed to teach black children that they’re more than a n*, they are all these positive and important character traits… Until you get to the bottom where it says, “Ban cruelty, not words”. Like, don’t ban the use of historically oppressive slurs, just be sure to call the black person radiant after referring to them as a freakin’ _slave.”_ Amazing work, 11/10 outrage grift, stunlocked me big time
29:53 Wouldn't closing the comments section be an example of censoring people because you don't like what they're saying, which is what she says she wants to ban (censorship of language)?
As a white person. My ex used to be very insistent on asking me to call him Mexican slurs. Specifically the b one. And I honestly think it was because he wanted me to be okay with him calling me (I’m queer) the f slur. Like he would really really push wanting me to call him that and I had to be like “no, like I’m not going that”
I love how she encourages critical thinking, but when people apply critical thinking to what she’s saying, they need to stop… I also love how she decides the moral standards for everyone… like… is this lady actually for real? Actually?!
I have a couple of things to say. Firstly my Dad served in the Navy for 20 years before and got married to my Mom. And my family never knew if my Dad would come back home or not. Growing up with him gone for almost a year at a time was hard growing up as a younger kid. Secondly I have a story I want to say. This happened a long time ago when I was working at a store unloading the truck with my team. A couple of African American workers were on my team. Then a white girl walked in and yelled “What’s up my N word.” She was fired the next day. I’m also white and have never used the N word.
I got an add during a random vegan teacher rant that said "schedule a doctor's appointment" I have a lump in my boob, and it's turning red and spreading. I scheduled an appointment, for a mammogram, they only did an ultrasound, but it's getting worse. I'll try to remember to finish the video but I feel like this is a sign really weird moment for a "life defining moment" but the universe is calling
Random update no one asked for, I have an appointment next month! Now I can ignore my obviously festering breast for another month. TBH I'm exhausted all the time and I low key think my heart problems on top of what is probably a raging infection has me ready to give up. I don't have regrets in life at least.
A speaker never gets to decide for others how they should feel about the words being spoken. If you say, or write, something that hurts people then you have to face the consequences of your actions.
Vegans? Being racist? How unthinkable! I never could have forseen this. Except for that time PETA made a billboard comparing chicken farming to ******** (sorry, I don't think RUclips wants me to say the actual word). And that whole debacle with white, vegan Canadians trying to dismantle every aspect of traditional Inuit lifestyle and culture. And all the ableism, an often comorbid personality flaw. But other than all those times, it's truly unthinkable. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
The idea that you can't be an advocate and smoke weed is hilarious to me. So many great advocates of civil rights have been huge cannabis users. Also, I feel like being able to take a smoke break from advocacy can help prevent burnout and/or doomerism (or at least does for me).
This person (I hate using the words person or human in reference to her) is revolting. The argument she uses is nothing but an excuse to try and justify her various forms of hatred. The truly ironic thing is she is claiming words (slurs) should not be cancelled yet getting all butt hurt because people are clapping back at those who she has offended. Her examples of why she isn't racist only prove she is. She reminds me of my father, he used to say "I'm not racist, my two best friends, one is black and the other is Mexican". Every time I heard those words I'd say "Dad the fact that you say that, proves you ARE a racist". He never understood that he could be friends with a person and still hate that person's race. It seems from listening to her that she grasps that idea every bit as well as he did.
I need you all to know that I cut out like 20+ minutes of her talking about circumcision
Why are vegans like this?
Thank you for your service
MAXIMINO... I don't know the rules of RUclips, but I think you need to blur out the word from her texts. I don't want you to get... I forget what RUclips infractions are called.
doing gods work
@@diannahenshaw5156 I’m gonna try leaving it up and hope nothing bad happens but this is a good reminder for next time 🫡
For a supposed teacher, "I don't believe in race" is a fundamentally ignorant take. Race is a construct yes, but its consequences are very real.
If you can't see race you can't see injustices or systemic issues founded on racism
Well, it is a political mechanism, and systemic?
@@TheSapphireLeo Look at wrinkle free brain. Did you use Bounce to get it so smoothe?
Im sayinn
And she claims she went to nursing school... Race plays a huge part in genetics and how someone's body can react to disease, disorders, medicine etc. Id never let her teach anybody I know anything at all.
She’s vegan but she hates weed? LAME, let me go pack another bowl.
That can still be harmful and that word is also speciesist and abelist?
@@TheSapphireLeo …girl, what??
@@Long_May_They_RaineAlso not a girl, and are you a black person for that, and if not every black person wants to be miss/in/appropriated from? Animals who become disabled by colonialism, are also klled for it and/or any inconvenience? Also smoking is also harmful and bypassing issues with it?
@ ohhhh, you’re a troll. Gotcha. Gonna go back to taking care of my work 😂
@@Long_May_They_Raine the utter confusion in your first reply is fucking sending me
she wants a slur for vegans so badly so she can "reclaim it" and use it openly and can't get pushback the way she could for other slurs
I propose Vigger.
So true 😂😂😂
That's so intuitive, I hadn't considered that but now it's all I'm hearing from her.
I have NEVER accidentally eaten meat, I have eaten vegetables by accident, but then again I have NEVER considered being a vegetarian or vegan. I agree that Greta would be like Will Smith on Chris Rock, the only difference Greta would be saying "Witch, keep my name out your mouth!" or something like that.
For someone that said we can call her whatever we want, and it won't bother her, she's getting REAL upset at being called racist.
I'm a vegetarian and also handicapped. I've been harassed for both things but the things people said about me being a "cripple" hurt far more than being insulted for being a vegetarian. Why? I chose to be a vegetarian and am proud of it. I did NOT choose to have cancer and become disabled. It hurts more to be attacked over something that was completely out of my control than something I am actually extremely proud of. As a side note, I am proud of being a cancer survivor, but being called a cripple with nasty connotations inferred makes me feel insignificant. There is a huge difference and her pretending it's about her diet is scapegoating.
That’s because you are a rational human being. This lady is on a different wavelength than the rest of us.
@Catglittercrafts I think she needs professional help.
idk u, but its nice to know you survived it
@@jahnnaabreu970 Thank you. Sometimes it's a slog just getting out of bed, but I'll never give up.
@@FoxxyFire-HellFrost your welcome, continue to never give up and have a good morning, after noon and night
She acts like Black people have never called each other the n word? Novel idea. Nobody ever thought of it.
Yup, here's me thinking where's this woman been for the past few decades, living under a rock?
@@kaz1015to be fair she's at least more caught up than jk rowling
The thing about reclaiming words is that it takes *YEARS* to do and not everyone in the category will agree with it. Take the term, Queer... it's a reclaimed word but not everyone in the LGBTQ+ will view it as such. More and more people are warming up to it, but that's not something that just happened over night with a vote.
So yes, an old lady who isn't in the group cannot just ask 'hey is this reclaimed yet?'
Seriously, I embrace it because it also fits that I am simply not a “normal” person, but many people in the same community still are hurt by it so it’s not something that should be pushed on them.
i remember being a closeted middle schooler who wasn't even aware of his own queerness, thinking "why are they using that word if they want to be seen as normal?" and now i call myself that proudly.
This woman is only two years older than me, so I KNOW she grew up with groundbreaking shows like: Maude, Sanford and Son, All in the Family, the Jeffersons. She knows better. All those shows in the 70’s educated us about racism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, ableism. Those of us in our fifties know better.
It’s what happens when you place a certain issue above everything else. She MIGHT hate black people, but she would absolutely bring back slavery if it
Meant deconstructing the animal product industry
37:13 is she seriously saying she wants indigenous or Indian children to “reclaim” the n-word???? Girl they got their own slurs why you assigning them a new one 😭
PLSS IM GIGGLING
😭😭😭
HELPPP I GIGGLED THATS SO FUNNY
Guess not seeing race means everyone can use slurs they've never once been victimised with
😂😂😂 Bruhhh on the floor
Caring about animals is all well and good... but this woman falls into the trap of "vegan who exaggerates any point they may have to the point that no one can take her seriously"
I love the stardew pfp
100% she's a caricature of the wacky victim vegan stereotype and it just detracts from any good point she may ever make and does not help the movement at all
"We need to reclaim it" no YOU don’t. YOU’RE not apart of this wtf. This is the most complex way of someone saying ‘I just wanna say the N-word w/o pushback’ I’ve ever seen
i love how she's so afraid to say the word black and constantly calls all black people "dark skinned" or "the dark skinned community" - like she didn't JUST say there are different shades of skin for black people like 😭😭 girl please sit down and think before you yap
She’s more afraid of calling people Black than she is saying the actual slur 💀
Can say the n word but not the word black..... Yeah, perfect nonracist math over here
She also calls Asian people “oriental” which is VERY much not the right word 😭 what is her problem
When I came out as gay, I was very much influenced to do it to let my then-fiance know why I was breaking up with him despite the fact that I lost my family for nearly a decade because of it…. Yep. TOTALLY selfish!
Came out as trans, endured constant criticism from my family, the threat to rejection from my loved ones. Yep! Absolutely selfish
came out as trans to a guy i liked at my school, stopped being friends with him for some reason, and now im terrified of being outed. the most selfish thing ive ever done ig
Every time she says "this is a holocaust" or mentions circumcision I explode internally.
I wonder if someone should tell her the ethnoreligion most affected by the holocust in Germany and the religion that started the whole circumcision thing are the same group
Probably not, she'll make it about pigs again
when she was like "yeah the holocaust was bad, and its bad to mutilate the genitals of children" my gast was flabbered. both statements are true but they absolutely shouldn't be said back to back. like. i know shes making a big point of being all "i dont see race" but i know she knows who the holocaust happened to*, and she HAS to know that that group of people rather famously ritually circumcises their young boys to signify a pact with god.
saying "the holocaust was bad, and so is circumcision" really makes it sound like you're about to blame a group of people for something that happened to them...
*for the most part - the roma, gay and trans people, mentally and physically disabled people, and other marginalized groups also got caught up in it but not to the extent that the jewish people did
Something that some people get wrong a lot is that no, we are not banning words. You can say slurs. You can. It’s legal. But a hell of a lot of people are not going to want to talk to you, not going to want to employ you, not going to want you in the public eye, and are going to call you bigoted. There’s a big difference.
You’ll face consequences, they just don’t involve prison
a lot of people don't understand the difference between censorship and criticism. while you can say whatever you want, people have every right to respond to you however they want and it just so happens that spewing hate makes most people uncomfortable or angry (and reasonably so) and facing pushback for your words is not censorship
@@twistedhyrule You have free speech saying it? We have free speech responding
The problem I have with TVT is that she acts as if she is always a victim. She always plays the victim card, as if she hasn’t done anything wrong. She compares things that have nothing to do with each other and acts if she’s made a point by comparing the two things.
Actually what they say is objectively correct when the truth and yes, also, as more or less a Greek person, when Greek people were also in the h0l0caust, agriculture is the biggest ongoing one and by colonialism, too?
@ WTF are you saying? Am I disputing what vegans are talking about, also WTF do the Greeks have to do with anything I have said? I just voiced my complaint about the way TVT portrays herself, she has a victim mentality.
she reminds me of christians that think because they are a 'good Christian' that they are always right and incaperble of causing harm becasue of that one quality you can be harming people and being racist homophobic ect and be helping the animals and you still me a net bad person
Vexing
Exasperating
Grating
Annoying
Noisy
Nailed it
I feel like there are even harsher insults that fit
Vrong
Extra stupid
Grasping for straws at any argument
Annoying (again)
No fucking way you thought saying slurs won't have consequences and all vegans agree with you on that, lady
@ I was trying to be family friendly for Max’s sake. If RUclips didn’t feel the need to censor us I would have been a lot more honest about how I feel.
@@LizSSwan Oh I know. Must appease the gods of the community guidelines 🙌
she's only going to be upset about that because the last word isn't the n-word lol
The "Naturally Intelligent Gorgeous..." bit at the beginning sent me into an absolute fit of laughter. This is so outrageous
It sent me too 😭😭😭. I just left my mouth open because I could not process what I saw.
"I'm not a racist. I just want to say racist things. But I'm not saying it with malice, I'm saying it with indifference! So it's ok!"
Fun fact, plants do in fact, feel pain They have multiple sensory organs in their body that range from photo receptors and Many other sensors that detect things like touch and heat and why they can’t actually hear they can feel vibrations through sound I don’t remember where I heard this from whether I read it or not, but I’m pretty sure there was a study done along time ago where they documented with a brain analyzer how plants react to environmental changes, including how they react when another plant burns and they do, indeed feel pain in the same way anyone else feels pain
they also seem to express fear from the sound of rabbits chewing on grass and wilt to try to protect themselves from being eaten. and the smell of onion is a defense mechanism.
Exactly 👍
If that isn’t proof that plants are just as alive as an animal then I don’t know what is
The fact that the first letter of each word is written in a different color makes it apparent she wrote the letters first, then filled it out in blue marker at a later time
33:02 I'm disabled in a way that makes trying to be vegan a bad decision for me. Unless I could hire a dietician and a cook, it wouldn't be accessible for me to learn to plan and prepare a whole new, nutritionally balanced diet that I'm willing to eat.
I've tried to be vegetarian. I got sick and starved and had to quit.
I've had similar issues simply trying to increase how many greens are in my diet. Wasn't even trying to go vegetarian or anything. Just more greens. I ended up eating so much because I was just hungry all the time.
@@IceFireofVoid I had way better results with the 25/25/50 rule. 1/4 of your plate protein, 1/4 starchy root vegetables (preferably mixed, carrots, potatoes, parsnips, turnips, etc) and 1/2 plate leafy greens. I follow it up with a fiber supplement to keep myself from wanting to scarf down fried food.
Same here. Vegan diet wasn't good with my disabilities, either. Hard enough to take care of myself as is.
The amount of judgement I got from vegans for not going vegan when I was still on a low-residue diet after multiple major abdominal surgeries was astonishing to me. Sure, maybe now that I can eat over 10 grams of fiber in a day, but at that point in time I wouldn’t have recovered at all under a vegan diet since there’s no way to achieve a low residue vegan diet that also provides sufficient nutrition for wound healing… Plus all the claims that I was only injuring myself worse and making myself sicker because of eating two eggs a day…
This woman screams "I have no unique aspect intrinsic to my character, so I'm going to latch onto this ideology and use it to make myself as important and worthy of attention as the people who have actual struggles in life," Like the lgbt bs is literally "Yeah I know queer teens and young adults can be abused. made homeless, or even murdered, and that adults being open about their identities normalizes queerness and makes society safer for those at risk teens- but I think eating animals is bad so I'm more important" instead of idk, making the valid comparison that smaller personal actions (being our/ refraining from animal products) can be small but profound ways to impact a larger system that seems out of our control.
But then again, that would imply her being part of the whole and not the sole arbiter of judgment of people in marginalized communities.
I'd heard of the Vegan Teacher and that she was awful but holy crap that opening. I've only been watching for 16 minutes and ive lost count of how many times I've said "Oooh my God!"
I was not at all prepared
25:46 oh my goddd this isn't even "but I have black friends", it's "I had a crush on one black kid 40 years ago"
32:31 did she really just reference Robin Williams as though there was any kind of shame in what he did? Was it tragic that he died the way he did? Of course it was, but he went out on his terms rather than live with his condition. Having seen my Grandma suffer with Lewy Body dementia and completely hallucinating awful things happening to her, I can see why he didn’t want to live with that. Then this witch decides to compare her reading people calling her racist with his experience 😢.
Bruh. I'm embroiled in this because I told someone on the internet that calling someone fruity was derogatory and not too kind. Now I'm a sensitive snowflake. And the problem because we live in the age where everyone gets a participation trophy. Literally those were the responses.
If someone tells me something makes them uncomfortable I thank them for sharing with me and don't say it anymore. These people can't even handle an ounce of feedback and have to manipulate, gaslight, and blow things up. So0o0o who is sensitive?
I feel like it shouldn't be this hard for them to understand but ??
Wild how defensive and sensitive these people are
@Maximmmino its seems futile cause you can't even have a conversation.
Also she's not being censored? She's just having consequences for her actions.
The mental gymnastics is wild. I can't believe you watched even more of this than we did. Lol
I think it says a lot about a person if they think saying whatever they want on principle is more important than showing respect and kindness to others
Whenever I see people using “fruity”or “twink” i think of that tweet that says “aww look who can’t say f-ggot”
@Corviidei lol I haven't seen that, but that's spot on 😭
Also your name really reminds me of someone i used to know.
She's very misinformed about mother pigs, they're put in those narrow birthing stalls to keep from crushing the piglets as they roll
None of that should exist?
That 10/10 gorgeous beast gratuitously napping in the background is healing my soul.
She wants us to stop being mean… while she’s casually mean to non-vegans.
She has control issues. She doesn’t want to enlighten anyone, she demands that people believe everything she believes. And how can it be so important to say offensive slurs and call it censorship if other people don’t like it. Censorship also applies to government overreach not private businesses (platforms) saying that they can’t say something while using their platforms, or a store owner saying their behavior is not acceptable in their business isn’t censorship. I just want to tell her not to demand certain behaviors out of others but never criticize her.
She literally says call me anything and I'll take it... but this whole video is her complaining she was called a word "racist"
I could just imagine her as a school teacher telling grade school kids it’s ok to say the N word, then all those kids use the N word out loud in public repeatedly just like that SpongeBob episode “Sailor mouth”
My god that would be hilarious 😅
I think she's trying to start a new alt-right pipeline of her own or something. Charitable version is she has a complete in ability to introspect. But I'm erring towards the prior view because she should have figured it out already. She hasn't because there's an ulterior motive.
I love how when people talk about "should we be banning words?" they never go into why something is "banned" like you can legally say the N word or the F slur or C word but people may not want to associate with you anymore because it's a word with a lot of history and implications.
Oop I’m black, guess I’m over it now. Thanks, vegan teacher!!! 🥸
r/thanksimcured
thank you tvt you're such a hero wowwww
The look on Jamie’s face when she said coming out is selfish was priceless
Ikr, his expression was the same as mine
Anyone can be a person who is not racist or homophobic or classist and say something that is considered offensive in any way. It’s not something to double down on though, it’s something to apologize for and stop saying.
Being lgbtq isn't a choice, you are born to be lgbtq but being vegan is entirely a choice. That the vegan teacher doesn't understand that baffling but not shocking
I forgot all about this little slice of the Vegan Teacher insanity. The anagram is CRAAAAAZY 😂😂😂
Was I the only one who didn't know about her 😭😭
@@Maximmminoapparently! 😭 I think oompaville covered her rather heavily bc she was harassing him and Kris.
Tabitha Coffey did something similar with the word bitch in a Ted talk, but the difference is that people called Tabitha a bitch and she turned it around for herself, whereas TVT is telling other people to do it.
I wasn’t even looking when she spelt out the anagram. I was making coffee, heard her say each word and as my brain clued it all it I just said “you bitch.”
Also careful with the abelist words?
With proper context, I do think kids should see where their meat comes from and respect the gift it is.
Friends had a farm, we would all help out when it was harvest time. Even the kids. It was not glorified, but it was also not terrifying.
I agree
I think gordon raises a lot of his own animals with his kids
Which is great
I feel like she is more on the side of wanting to traumatize kids out of eating meat and that doesn't help anyone
@@Maximmminoi do think being vegan is just better than not being vegan. like there’s literally just an obvious and sort of undeniable moral claim to it. but yeah scare tactics and fear based rhetoric are not just bad for people but they’re also ineffective
@@tonoornottonofr we need to start educating kids on the meat industries and how a lot of awful shit does happen so we can work towards changing. More people would probably chose to be vegetarian/vegan if they were properly educated on the subject
@@tonoornottonoAlso calling it for what it is is also the truth and is education?
@@shiftyferret9654 my partner and his ex did that.
This woman shouldn't be a teacher, she has no respect for anyone and she's a bad example for children.
I don't agree with circumsicion either but I don't act all crazy because of it.
My friend i was ✨not ready✨ for this woman this early in the morning
I might would feel sorry for her if she was any other person. She has spent her entire if not most of her youtube career being cruel to people, made it her bread and butter. Now she's getting flustered and upset? You of all people say you love all when you actively have gone out of your way to attack others and make them feel like shit? No. You don't get sympathy nor empathy. If you were any other person who treated and spoke to your peers like a decent person I would empathize and sympathize with how you're feeling but my dear, this is karma and you have earned every bitter bite of it that's being fed to you.
Great video of you exposed her using that word. She said she is proud of saying the N-word she keeps on saying now days
She wouldn’t have the guts to say it face to face, in front of a black person. She does it from the safety of her own home or car, that’s how you know she doesn’t believe her own words. She just cares about attention.
This woman is evil, so creepy. She should not be allowed anywhere near children.
It's amazing that she says to keep an open mind, learn, use critical thinking skills, be compassionate, etc and she does none of that herself.
Also was she a Sunday school teacher or does Canada not have separation of church and state?
Even the marker is done with her bullshit lmao 😂
Sometimes I think it’s rage bait and other times i genuinely think she is absolutely insane.
She said it in *ACRONYM* I know she said it I'm not gonna say it but it is there
Bro got the Zelda tingle build
Should out to Jamie's reaction at 15:49 perfect face of wtf
Absolutely. Jamie's face is iconic and honestly my face when hearing her talk.
Her: we should never censor words
Also her: he called me a racist piece of garbage!
My husband used to work in a pork plant. The pigs were all very calm on the way to the gassing. The pigs being upset or anxious changes the quality of the meat. She's wrong. Part of the process is to be as kind as possible to the animals at the end of their lives.
Here in the UK animals have to be stunned first, though there are religions that have exemptions. I called bs right on that.
@@AcanthaDante the gas puts them to sleep and they are slaughtered on the other side of it. It's kind of the same as stunning. Cows aren't the same and there are certain practices with cows that I find repulsive.
Seems like everything out of her mouth is a lie or an exaggeration.
I’m a vegetarian myself, but I absolutely agree the ideal should be treating the animals more humanely rather than avoid eating them altogether as a species. The circle of life is there for a reason, but it’s not an excuse to abuse the food that hurts it and the humans who consume it
SHE IS 56?! I THOUGHT SHE WAS LIKE 70!
Here’s something to describe ThatVeganTeacher:
Talented
Wonderful
Awesome
Thoughtful
(Pay attention to the acronym I gave her).
She’s
Beautiful
Interesting
Tolerant
Calm
Happy
Young
I’m too afraid to post the one I came up with. Definitely wouldn’t make the guideline gods happy.
She doesn’t apologise if she says something offensive, she doubles down on it or just sweeps it under rug.
Wow she said the n word in the safety of her house behind a screen. Just like an 11 year old on cod. So tuff
Is it me or does her tone resemble Diane's?
Yup. That sickly sweet high pitched voice that barely hides her disdain for everyone else.
Woah ur right!
She does! It's the tone of narcissism seasoned with self-righteousness
Not just you.
You aren’t banned from saying words (unless they’re threatening or terroristic), BUT that doesn’t mean you’re free from criticism or consequences.
As a woman who uses the word, C U Next Tuesday 100% applies to vegan teacher.
OMG IT'S ONE FREAKING WORD YOU SHOULDN'T SAY!!! Is it such an affront to your "rights" to have one word off limits? You people know who you are.
"Nothing should be censored. Unless they're criticisms of me."
“She looks like she could be that to me!” 😇😇😇
There’s a fine line between moderation and full on censorship. ThatVeganTeacher seems to lack nuance
I feel your laughing in cringe. I first yelled "nooooo.....no no no stop" them started laughing bc its so fucking baaaaaad.
I did the @funkyfrogbait cringing on her couch. 😅 I really find ppl trying so hard to be edgy si cringe.
Her bringing up “All these other issues are happening! Why are you mad I was being racist!” is such a childish way of arguing.
Yes these other bad things are happening, you still deserve to be called out.
Then her going “You’re jealous about my 1.7 mil followers!” is such a showcase of her immaturity.
Vegan Teacher is a disgusting person who clearly wants vegans/ veganism to be the more oppressed than any minority.
She has no clue what she is actually saying and is to up her own ass to realize that she is bigoted.
Does TVT know that bees can leave your hive if they don’t find it beneficial? No one is caging bees in a hive and beating them or anything going “gimme your honey!”
19:50 "just a little racism, as a treat" lol
I'm not vegan (vegetarian) but it sucks because this lady makes me feel a bit nervous about saying I'm vegetarian, because of the reputation this lady's given us. I know some vegans and other vegetarians in real life and everybody hates her, and now there are many people who see her as the face of anti-animal cruelty and meatless diets.
Fellow vegetarian who is second-hand embarrassed 🙋🏼
She acts like she's 14...
The baby voice is SO annoying and offputting.
Vegans: hey can you not be racist?
That Vegan teacher: B-buh da animals 🥺
“The animals don’t think I’m racist!” The animals don’t know who you are
This woman is just a grifter is what it is. She has no actual stance, and the only thing she wants from people and her own audience is praise. Shes a hypocrite through and through. One day she supports gay people and then afterwards are saying they are being selfish
The Vegan Teacher has many problems. Apparently I’m ‘selfish’ for coming out as gay rather than vegan.
1:06:24 Remembering the school one I was "taught" [I copied it] which was roughly
"Oh, you're calling me a b!tch? Well technically you're calling me a female dog, and what does a female dog do? Bark. What is bark? Part of a tree. What is a tree? Nature. What is nature? Beautiful. So technically you're calling me beautiful."
Yikes.. thems the days, for sure..
I JUST WATCHED THE REST IM CACKLING
This looks like a really edgy motivational poster designed to teach black children that they’re more than a n*, they are all these positive and important character traits…
Until you get to the bottom where it says, “Ban cruelty, not words”. Like, don’t ban the use of historically oppressive slurs, just be sure to call the black person radiant after referring to them as a freakin’ _slave.”_
Amazing work, 11/10 outrage grift, stunlocked me big time
Banning words gives them more power not less
They've shown plants do in fact feel pain, and even scream
29:53 Wouldn't closing the comments section be an example of censoring people because you don't like what they're saying, which is what she says she wants to ban (censorship of language)?
As a former vegan, the culture of bigotry is one of the reasons that drove me away.
As a white person. My ex used to be very insistent on asking me to call him Mexican slurs. Specifically the b one. And I honestly think it was because he wanted me to be okay with him calling me (I’m queer) the f slur. Like he would really really push wanting me to call him that and I had to be like “no, like I’m not going that”
I love how she encourages critical thinking, but when people apply critical thinking to what she’s saying, they need to stop… I also love how she decides the moral standards for everyone… like… is this lady actually for real? Actually?!
I have a couple of things to say.
Firstly my Dad served in the Navy for 20 years before and got married to my Mom. And my family never knew if my Dad would come back home or not. Growing up with him gone for almost a year at a time was hard growing up as a younger kid.
Secondly I have a story I want to say. This happened a long time ago when I was working at a store unloading the truck with my team. A couple of African American workers were on my team. Then a white girl walked in and yelled “What’s up my N word.” She was fired the next day.
I’m also white and have never used the N word.
Ideological hardliners cannot defend themselves forever.
I was like "It can't be THAT bad"
The first fucking sentence lmao
I got an add during a random vegan teacher rant that said "schedule a doctor's appointment" I have a lump in my boob, and it's turning red and spreading. I scheduled an appointment, for a mammogram, they only did an ultrasound, but it's getting worse. I'll try to remember to finish the video but I feel like this is a sign really weird moment for a "life defining moment" but the universe is calling
Random update no one asked for, I have an appointment next month! Now I can ignore my obviously festering breast for another month. TBH I'm exhausted all the time and I low key think my heart problems on top of what is probably a raging infection has me ready to give up. I don't have regrets in life at least.
@mars6233 -- Take care of yourself! You took the initiative to get medically checked, that's great!
Wishing you well..😊
A speaker never gets to decide for others how they should feel about the words being spoken. If you say, or write, something that hurts people then you have to face the consequences of your actions.
Vegans? Being racist? How unthinkable! I never could have forseen this.
Except for that time PETA made a billboard comparing chicken farming to ******** (sorry, I don't think RUclips wants me to say the actual word). And that whole debacle with white, vegan Canadians trying to dismantle every aspect of traditional Inuit lifestyle and culture. And all the ableism, an often comorbid personality flaw.
But other than all those times, it's truly unthinkable. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
The idea that you can't be an advocate and smoke weed is hilarious to me. So many great advocates of civil rights have been huge cannabis users. Also, I feel like being able to take a smoke break from advocacy can help prevent burnout and/or doomerism (or at least does for me).
"Guess I'm the only person in the world who thinks this way, but everyone else in the world is wrong, not me. "
As far as I know there are laws against animal cruelty.
Yeah but we arnt the ones paying for animals to get killed that’s the farmers job
If certain words are designed for causing harm then yeah, banning them is a part of banning cruel behavior
She can dish it but she can’t take it.
Bruh she used the hard R😭😭🙏
As a queer person i respect those who don't want to be called queer
So her mindset around the n word is absolutely wild to me.
I hope when you said “Yep, she’s Canadian” it’s because she kept saying “Sorry” and not because you think we’re all like her 😜
My girlfriend and my best friend are both canadian so we'll never know 😭😭
@ dude 😂
'using the wrong pronouns is illegal' is a Jordan Peterson trope
She really is racist:
Racist
Acist
Cist
Ist
St
T
This person (I hate using the words person or human in reference to her) is revolting. The argument she uses is nothing but an excuse to try and justify her various forms of hatred. The truly ironic thing is she is claiming words (slurs) should not be cancelled yet getting all butt hurt because people are clapping back at those who she has offended. Her examples of why she isn't racist only prove she is. She reminds me of my father, he used to say "I'm not racist, my two best friends, one is black and the other is Mexican". Every time I heard those words I'd say "Dad the fact that you say that, proves you ARE a racist". He never understood that he could be friends with a person and still hate that person's race. It seems from listening to her that she grasps that idea every bit as well as he did.
26:26 this made me realize she's literally just saying "i used to agree with them until it wasn't benefitting me"