I am so ready to get rid of my VM that only runs one docker container that I couldn't get running on Scale's old kubernetes setup! Should run just fine on native docker, and I can finally ditch NFS mounts for good.
With the disappointing direction that Synology has taken, TrueNAS is looking better and better each day. Besides, I much rather build my own system than buy a turn-key machine.
@@THEG12EG I have two Synology NAS units, which we use for both our business and entertainment. I also have several desktop PCs that I had built over the years which I am planning to use as either Linux machines or Linux servers. I have not used TrueNAS yet, but might play with it in a VM.
@@PeterHonig. truenas sounds great but tbh you have to spend so much time getting simple things to work it’s not worth it. I’m not being a troll it’s true.. please test it and get back to me with your opinion!!
@@abdelnajjar8191 1. It's free (though considering NAS costs, I'm more than willing to pay 50-100$ anyways). 2. First class ZFS integration (there are just a lot more options and focus on ZFS), Unraid's native (non ZFS) storage backend is also very cludgy. 3. Proper SSD support (for both Pools and your boot drive), also Raid1 for your boot medium. 4. Some options to do stuff that's not really supported, but works anyways (like ZFS-recompress scripts). Unraid does have its advantages (more beginner friendly, a little more polished virtualization/app support and the pool architecture flexibility if you don't wanna use ZFS) but weighing those depends on your use case, and admin experience. It's always nice to see things not only get better, but also simpler and I think 24.10 is a big step in the right direction.
About docker compose files ... can it periodically update them from a git repo and then restart the docker stack with the the new settings? ie gitops. Can how do volume binds work? What would I bind a volume to in the local filesystem?
Still cannot install Nextcloud in Electric Eel (the pre-made via Discover Apps). Even with default folders. Everything else I need works much more effective. Great step for TrueNAS P.S. If you _move_ an application with a postgres/redis under the hood to a new TrueNAS installation, there is a challenge with database (Postgres/Redis) passwords, but I guess we will see tutorials on that.
you have to leave the prostgres DB in default path - its the same with other applications - if there is a second container for a DB the DB cannot be installed on a host path directory or the install fails I hope this gets fixed as well as the fact, that I cannot use host network on the HomeAssistant integrated App. I hope they take a look to Synology, hot they implemented Docker, because the current release is crap af.
How to make use of docker compose? I can only see the webgui version but I would like to paste a compose yml with network configuration and multiple services in one compose file?
In "discover apps" on the upper right, you can click on "custom app" and insert a compose config in there as it seems. I'm about to get new hardware for my nas system, I'll probably use truenas. I hope I can still use portainer with it, as this seems nice mostly, but portainer just can't be beaten
Hi i am building my own first light homelab for only internal network. I need NAS and some docker to play around. Does it make sense to use truenas scale and inside that a vm with docker and portainer? Oder should i use proxmox abd thak a vm for true nas and a vm for docker stuff?
played with the rc1 but couldn't get plex to use gpu to transcode it seems to be an issue with many also a few mentions that nextcloud is not installing right but besides that is looks promising
Read somewhere that a lot of GPU's, especially from Nvidia won't work because you have no kernel driver that supports anything beyond text output for freeBSD. Docker, if I remember correctly, just runs on top of your kernel and can't see features your kernel has no idea is there. ATI and Nvidia apparently has better driver support on freeBSD, but your mileage may still vary as far as I understand it.
Would be great for you to cover upgrading to Electric Eel, and how the Kubernetes to Docker conversion works and how accurate that is? Also did not see any options for custom Docker networks in there? Hope there is that option. Great review, thanks
Were you using iX official/community or custom apps? Those should migrate automatically. You can re-do the migration from commandline. If you're using TrueCharts apps, those will not automatically migrate. You'll need to get app data/config out of those apps then install the official/comm or custom app versions and pushing data/conf back in. Really wish ix (and truecharts) had of added explicit locations for data/config from the get-go. Advice, use a new dataset to mounts those for apps. Need to migrate? Stupidly easy, add binds pointing to the same location. Done!
@@DarthV506 Thank you. I found it but its buggy some apps fails and there is no way to continue there is a thread about that in the community. Thank you.
In System/Shell type the command : intel-gpu-top (obviously for intel...), watch -n 0.1 nvidia-smi (for nvidia and maybe for AMD: there's a module for AMD but I don't known if it's in TrueNAS)
Kubernetes is a container orchestration solution. In scale they were using k3s i dont remember the runtime but it doesnt matter since they use a standard if its docker, podman, containerd. Imo long term if truenas scale actually scaled k8s is the better management platform. However as the project stands now this is a good move. Your intro really seemed to misrepresent the core of what is changing.
I wish i would have seen this before I pressed the update. Literally this video was on my feed after I pressed that button. I hope I can fix it. 😂 I will try the user name other than admin maybe that’s it. Thank you
I boutht Synology a while ago since I the apps were drama at TrueNas and running docker containers was not straight trough. Since Synology does not maintain the apps gooed enough in my opinion I';m thingkoing about sell the Synbology and grab mu truenas machine back.
I struggled with truenas until I finally tried unraid and never looked back. I still get to use zfs and holy moly is the OS easy to work with and deploy docker containers.
I find it ridiculous that something with the NAS focus should include virtualization. Make a lite version with only Storage as focus and just make sure it plays nicely with Virtualization.
In a small scale setup having this all in one box makes sense. Also makes sense for the homelab users as you don't need to have X number of boxes running.
I will say when i went to the beta, i lost plex, emby, metube. Plex was one they said would transfer but didnt for me, it actually fixed a codec issue in plex i had so was sort of win, but thought id mention. I lost all my playlists in emby. Syncthing & Jellyfin transferred ok though, ended up reinstalling pihole and tailscale too later as they were acting weird.
I think from what I have used. TrueNAS is pretty good for the average guy. Though now for a more serious business side. I like Unraid. But Open-e is tops to me. Even Open-e is Jovian based, and easier to play with. Not to mention open-e supports almost all types of container forms out there. Docker, Azure, Openshift, and even Kubernetes. Kubernetes allows multiple containers even.
“Lots of new features”?? List them! Of course you have not used truenas apps or you would know there are no new features. This was just an implementation of Docker instead of Kubernetes.
I am so ready to get rid of my VM that only runs one docker container that I couldn't get running on Scale's old kubernetes setup! Should run just fine on native docker, and I can finally ditch NFS mounts for good.
Best thing is you can just install the Portainer app to manage all your docker containers. Just great.
With the disappointing direction that Synology has taken, TrueNAS is looking better and better each day. Besides, I much rather build my own system than buy a turn-key machine.
Have you ever used synology?
Have you ever used truenas?
@@THEG12EG I have two Synology NAS units, which we use for both our business and entertainment. I also have several desktop PCs that I had built over the years which I am planning to use as either Linux machines or Linux servers. I have not used TrueNAS yet, but might play with it in a VM.
@@PeterHonig. truenas sounds great but tbh you have to spend so much time getting simple things to work it’s not worth it. I’m not being a troll it’s true.. please test it and get back to me with your opinion!!
This helps push me towards truenas once i switch away from proprietary Synology instead of just having to use unraid
@@SurelyLegal unraid is great tho. What does truenas have the unraid doesn't?
@@abdelnajjar8191
1. It's free (though considering NAS costs, I'm more than willing to pay 50-100$ anyways).
2. First class ZFS integration (there are just a lot more options and focus on ZFS), Unraid's native (non ZFS) storage backend is also very cludgy.
3. Proper SSD support (for both Pools and your boot drive), also Raid1 for your boot medium.
4. Some options to do stuff that's not really supported, but works anyways (like ZFS-recompress scripts).
Unraid does have its advantages (more beginner friendly, a little more polished virtualization/app support and the pool architecture flexibility if you don't wanna use ZFS) but weighing those depends on your use case, and admin experience.
It's always nice to see things not only get better, but also simpler and I think 24.10 is a big step in the right direction.
@@abdelnajjar8191You can use it for free
@@abdelnajjar8191 TrueNas is free
@@abdelnajjar8191 the free price lol
Love the way you pronounce “a nightmere”, so cuuuute
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About docker compose files ... can it periodically update them from a git repo and then restart the docker stack with the the new settings? ie gitops.
Can how do volume binds work? What would I bind a volume to in the local filesystem?
Intro speaking from the soul
this is the update that i wanted to finally consolidate my servers into a single home server
trus me, you dont want this! I just finished a big server using scale, is ....... very very buggy
How do i fix the clone catalog issue and also reinstall my jellyfin without losing data .. reading posts hasn't helped. Visual learner 😢
Still cannot install Nextcloud in Electric Eel (the pre-made via Discover Apps). Even with default folders. Everything else I need works much more effective. Great step for TrueNAS
P.S. If you _move_ an application with a postgres/redis under the hood to a new TrueNAS installation, there is a challenge with database (Postgres/Redis) passwords, but I guess we will see tutorials on that.
you have to leave the prostgres DB in default path - its the same with other applications - if there is a second container for a DB the DB cannot be installed on a host path directory or the install fails
I hope this gets fixed as well as the fact, that I cannot use host network on the HomeAssistant integrated App.
I hope they take a look to Synology, hot they implemented Docker, because the current release is crap af.
How to make use of docker compose? I can only see the webgui version but I would like to paste a compose yml with network configuration and multiple services in one compose file?
In "discover apps" on the upper right, you can click on "custom app" and insert a compose config in there as it seems.
I'm about to get new hardware for my nas system, I'll probably use truenas. I hope I can still use portainer with it, as this seems nice mostly, but portainer just can't be beaten
@@etzbetz thanks a lot! I somehow missed that.
@@rainson12 you're welcome :)
Hi i am building my own first light homelab for only internal network. I need NAS and some docker to play around. Does it make sense to use truenas scale and inside that a vm with docker and portainer? Oder should i use proxmox abd thak a vm for true nas and a vm for docker stuff?
played with the rc1 but couldn't get plex to use gpu to transcode it seems to be an issue with many also a few mentions that nextcloud is not installing right but besides that is looks promising
did you use the truenas apps or compose?
Read somewhere that a lot of GPU's, especially from Nvidia won't work because you have no kernel driver that supports anything beyond text output for freeBSD. Docker, if I remember correctly, just runs on top of your kernel and can't see features your kernel has no idea is there. ATI and Nvidia apparently has better driver support on freeBSD, but your mileage may still vary as far as I understand it.
Would be great for you to cover upgrading to Electric Eel, and how the Kubernetes to Docker conversion works and how accurate that is?
Also did not see any options for custom Docker networks in there? Hope there is that option.
Great review, thanks
would it be possible to convert raidz1 to raidz2?
no...
@@frederichardy8844
Did you experience an Application loss after the upgrade? I found that only 2 of more than 15 applications are there.
Were you using iX official/community or custom apps? Those should migrate automatically. You can re-do the migration from commandline. If you're using TrueCharts apps, those will not automatically migrate. You'll need to get app data/config out of those apps then install the official/comm or custom app versions and pushing data/conf back in.
Really wish ix (and truecharts) had of added explicit locations for data/config from the get-go. Advice, use a new dataset to mounts those for apps. Need to migrate? Stupidly easy, add binds pointing to the same location. Done!
@@DarthV506 Thank you. I found it but its buggy some apps fails and there is no way to continue there is a thread about that in the community. Thank you.
Any idea if one can view the reports on iGPU/dGPU usage
In System/Shell type the command : intel-gpu-top (obviously for intel...), watch -n 0.1 nvidia-smi (for nvidia and maybe for AMD: there's a module for AMD but I don't known if it's in TrueNAS)
@@frederichardy8844 however there's no live reporting in the summary page yeah? I am currently using intel-gpu-top to monitor usage at times
Kubernetes is a container orchestration solution. In scale they were using k3s i dont remember the runtime but it doesnt matter since they use a standard if its docker, podman, containerd. Imo long term if truenas scale actually scaled k8s is the better management platform. However as the project stands now this is a good move. Your intro really seemed to misrepresent the core of what is changing.
I second this sentiment. If you look at actual enterprise use it seems that kubernetes is the favored platform among the two
Read the clickbait arrow caption in the thumbnail as "destroy anything" :)
I wish i would have seen this before I pressed the update. Literally this video was on my feed after I pressed that button. I hope I can fix it. 😂 I will try the user name other than admin maybe that’s it. Thank you
I boutht Synology a while ago since I the apps were drama at TrueNas and running docker containers was not straight trough. Since Synology does not maintain the apps gooed enough in my opinion I';m thingkoing about sell the Synbology and grab mu truenas machine back.
i only hope to see full integration with incus
I struggled with truenas until I finally tried unraid and never looked back. I still get to use zfs and holy moly is the OS easy to work with and deploy docker containers.
what was it that you struggled with on TrueNAS? I'm curious to know before I venture out on my own
I find it ridiculous that something with the NAS focus should include virtualization. Make a lite version with only Storage as focus and just make sure it plays nicely with Virtualization.
In a small scale setup having this all in one box makes sense. Also makes sense for the homelab users as you don't need to have X number of boxes running.
I will say when i went to the beta, i lost plex, emby, metube. Plex was one they said would transfer but didnt for me, it actually fixed a codec issue in plex i had so was sort of win, but thought id mention. I lost all my playlists in emby. Syncthing & Jellyfin transferred ok though, ended up reinstalling pihole and tailscale too later as they were acting weird.
Also none of these were truecharts versions either
I think from what I have used. TrueNAS is pretty good for the average guy. Though now for a more serious business side. I like Unraid. But Open-e is tops to me. Even Open-e is Jovian based, and easier to play with. Not to mention open-e supports almost all types of container forms out there. Docker, Azure, Openshift, and even Kubernetes. Kubernetes allows multiple containers even.
Never heard of them…
The reason seems to be the 2580 price tag
No thanks
@@JokingChickenn Not sure who you mean. And if you know how to search good. If its Open-e. It has a free edition. Version v.1.0 up30r2 55016
Is full of bugs! Tons of permission problems! Just install portainer and install docker apps normally from it. Else you will regret it!
Epic.
“Lots of new features”??
List them!
Of course you have not used truenas apps or you would know there are no new features. This was just an implementation of Docker instead of Kubernetes.
Hopefully, they'll add Nvidia VGPU support in the future.
Just upgraded to RC1 and now time to migrate from my jailmaker docker sandbox.
Unraid seems like the better solution
For what?
@@jakesecondname2462 docker containers
I have never been a huge fan of unraids RAID setup
Tried unraid could not get on with it so used Truenas scale so much easier to use and setup. Just watched spacerex and job done.
Paid version. It sucks.