How Dundee United Became An Insult In Nigeria | A View from the Terrace
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- In Nigeria, the term ‘Dundee United’ is used as an insult. Can 200 million people be convinced to see the club in a more positive light?
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Tbf Dundee Utd means the exact same in Scotland as well
Bloody beer went everywhere! Hilarious comment!
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@@b3564put down the beer lad it's the middle of the week 😂
@@bhvillaman4401 Easter holidays! Chocolate eggs have too many calories and then can't get into work clothes after the holidays, so win win!
No just dundee
If you want us to stop seeing Dundee United as idiots you need to come play another friendly match in Nigeria but you guys have to win 😂😂😂😂
No that would be a proper promotional tour for there team
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Made sense till you said win😂😂😂scottish teams are horrific away
@@jamieweir2598 they should sign better players from other league there's good players that their pay is not that expensive
Great press for the club would be if they played against sporting Lagos
I truly wish someday to be as happy as that Nigerian guy.
You will God is your helper
Never knew Dundee United was a name of a football club 😂. And my parents have been insulting me with Dundee United😢.. Anytime they call me Dundee United I cried literally 😭😭
send your scouts to Nigeria/West Africa and start signing young prospects
do what Celtic does with Japan
celtic don't ,whos the scout?yea LOL
@stuartpenman6387 You mean Ange who coached in Japan and won with them
Same with Gordie and Shunsuke
@@hondomclean6759you've had japs before ange you know
@@hondomclean6759 no i asked whos the scout,
I am a Nigerian and my favourite Scottish team is Dundee United. I fell in love with the team following my visit to Scotland over 20 years ago. Dundee is an absolutely lovely City and I was introduced to the three J's of Jute, Jam and Journalism.
As a Nigerian who has used the word/s so many times, I actually thought it was another way to say that someone is a "Donkey" 😀
Yeah, donkey, idiot etc
Learnt about this out of pure curiosity around 2012 or so. I found out that there was a City and 2 football clubs in Scotland named Dundee, and i was like "huh, Dundee?", so i researched on if there was a link. I then asked my Grandfather, a huge football fan, and he very much remembered the backlash in the Sporting community after the Dundee United tour... Basically a lot of Nigerians had lost huge amounts of money betting on Dundee favoured odds, thinking that a Prof. British Football Club coming to play some of the Amateur Clubs would be a bloodbath, and well, they couldn't be more wrong, because Dundee stunk up the place... So Dundee is now a Nigerian slang for "Disappointment/Idiot/Stupid".
BTW, many Nigerians thought like that because they had a high regard for British clubs due to what they've been told about how "good" they were.
Why would Nigeria do this?😂😂😂
Nigeria didn't do it... You did it to yourselves in 1972...
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Don't over stress yourself mate... Dundee United is here to stay in Nigeria... Use it as a means to expand your influence and fan base...
@Georgyzhukovv Yep, definitely a money spinning opportunity and to gain a fanbase in an undertapped market! Not to mention, a foothold to scout and secure Nigerian talent, both senior and youth, for the future.
How bizarre, but fair play to the journalist and the Nigerians in this video. I’m going to find myself resisting the urge to say this when something goes wrong.
‘Journalist’
Dundee is a nice place I love you all💙 love from Nigeria 🇳🇬
Aye, it's a lovely place to live if you're an aspiring crackhead
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It's really not though 😂😂😂
@@JackButland-tt9zk🤣it’s not that bad sha
I think that is just Nigeria. Even own goal in Nigeria is called ESCOBAR! due to his famous owngoals in the 1994 world cup.
😂😂😂So True
On the streets of Nigeria, own goals are called odiye, in memory of Former Green Eagles defender Godwin Odiye
I grew up in Nigeria in the late 90s and early 2000s knowing the word "Dundee" to mean "idiot". It wasn't until much later that I discovered they were a football club.
lol Imagine his parents response back home in Nigeria when he told them "Mum, dad I am going to university of Dundee" "Son are you stupid?!" 😆
A Nigerian friend of mine put me on to this story. It's hilarious. I even think the word in my head now when I see something that's a bit shoddy, bandy or doesn't work correctly.
If I was a Dundee fan I’d be all over this
To be honest, the Nigerians seem to use Dundee and Dundee United interchangeably.
I think Dundee United needs to do another tour of West Africa especially Nigeria and rewrite history.
My chemistry professor in oau, my uni in Nigeria back then, told us the story about dundee united. Told us they were a team that was always losing and the term became an insult when Nigerians used to bet on random teams back then with hope of becoming rich. He said when you bet on dundee, you almost always lose because they always lose with high goal margin back then. Those were the days of paper bets that used to be at the back of newspapers before all these online betting platforms, before Nigerians started supporting epl, la liga etc and before streaming and cable services. I guess the term stuck because Nigerians unfortunately still don’t watch Scottish football.
I know the phrase but I cannot recall it being used around me in a looooong time. Nice to discover its origin, though.
This is amazing. I'm a Canadian living in Scotland, so not a lot of historic football knowledge, and one of my coworkers is a big Dundee United fan that mentioned that being associated/referenced to Dundee United is an insult in Nigeria and it left me bewildered. This clarifies it cuz I was genuinely baffled by it and how it came about 😆
When i moved to Ireland in 04 and started getting more familier with the UK football leagues, i always giggled when i saw Dundee United. I've grown out of it now but watching these video just reminded me of those times lol
Same thing with Harry Maguire in the Ghanaian parliament 😅
Yo that one killed me, give it a decade it won't just be Ghanaians🤣🤣🤣
I actually thought dundee was an english word that meant “idiot” and that the club intentionally took the name up knowing fully well it meant “idiot”… but
Dun is a Gaelic word meaning 'fort' and Dee is the name of the local river. Dundee = fort along the river dee
People of Nigeria…. Do you actually, seriously use the term Dundee United to mean disappointing?? If this is true, I think it’s hilarious 😁😁😂😂
Yes, we do. I actually thought it was another way to say that someone is a Donkey. 😀
@@charles47t this is so funny to me (from Scotland, not Dundee!) thanks for the reply! 😁
@@chendy8674 I lived there for 10 years, and people would say "you are a total Dundee", meaning an idiot. I'd assumed it was to do with the cake!
The Nigerian in the video was being nice by toning it down. It actually means "fool" and related words in Nigeria. 😂 I didn't know the story behind it. I just grew up with it like many other kids birthed years after the incident.
It’s literally an insult to be called a Dundee in Nigeria 😩.
I'll tell you this, many Nigerians don't know the origin of the word. Great journalism.
🤣🤣🤣I know many dundees
I'm Zimbabwean and I can infere some similarities. In zim there was a time if you did something you would call you a dunderhead short "dunder" or "Dundee"... I can only see the similarities but it could be divorced from it also
Someone should show Nigerians a video of AZ 7 Dundee Utd 0 in the Europa League last season😂
Never forget that in professional football (so not friendlies) Dundee Utd are 4 - 0 vs Barcelona. I'm not kidding look it up
Maybe we should start calling people Barcelonas😂
@@smelly1060as a Real Madrid fan I will start doing that
I used that term 'Dundee United' and never bothered to know the origin. Wow! 😅
Dundee and Dundee United should travel to Nigeria to play each other in a pre-season friendly to try and prove to Nigerians that (1) they are two different teams and (2) they aren't as comically bad as United were on that original tour.
With the way Scottish football has degenerated since the mid 90s they're probably worse than those 70s teams.
Nigerians getting it right.
Only Nigerians could do this 🤣❤...
OMG this was hilarious and awesome 😂😂❤ Go Dundee 🙌🏻
I listened to bbc radio when i was a boy, and always giggled whenaver i heard dundee in match schedules or results. I actually thought then that they were 2 different words with the same sound but different spellings and meanings
These days in Nigeria, people don't usually call it in full, they rather say dunduu or dundee to refer to something stupid or an idiot.
Danda means stupid in swahili too
Absolute class act, Phil. Loved watching him play.
It can't be that easy to change Nigerians minds notion and decades old beliefs about the name calling especially that of Dundee. Where i see a change is when the current generation of people pass. A new generation definitely has different culture that will be relevant to their time
Nigerians use the word here and there, but just in a hilarious way. Dundee has other synonism like ode.
You even put the direct meaning..... 😂😂😂 "Ode"""
No English word can equate "Ode"😅😅
@@adetunjiadeyinka4140 ajeh 😂
Grew up in Lagos using that insult but never new it was an actual place with a football cub. You learn something new everyday. 😂😂😂
Presnter got the lifetime kit
Of course, the word/phrase Dundee United.. growing up in Nigeria has always meant someone who does something stoopid and that has always been the only meaning and context of the word I know so imagine my shock when I started playing football manager back in the 2009s, 2011 and I suddenly saw a club called Dundee Unitedd...I was so shocked
By the looks of that game, nothing will change about that insult soon.
I am Nigeria and live on Dens road
In Indian culture, Dundee United is used to say that the weather is cold!
When you do something stupid, they will say, “you are a Dundee United.” I first heard it from my late dad’s mouth.
Firstly you need to understand how popular this gr at clus Dundee United is in Nigeria. As a kid growing up in the 90's our older cousins, siblings and mostly parents refers to anyone who makes silly moves as Dundee United.
I don't know why but that was what wenall grown up on..
And its funny how time changes yesterday i am not in Scotland studying. 🇳🇬😯🇳🇬
it's like PAOK FC in North Sumatra
never even heard of that kind of term there
I remember Dundèe losing 9-0 to Celtic last season on a Sunday. The Nigeria in me felt like what to you expect from Dundèe united
To change Nigerians mindset on this name will be hard,it's even more cultural now.ln every home,once you mess up,they call you Dundee United. But if they have a Nigerian team named Dundee United,that might change their luck.
Wow we use the name dundee to call you stupid or an idiot I never knew it was a place with football team in Scotland😂
If we had an equivalent expression here in the States, I guess we'd be saying not to act like an Oakland Athletic.
Don't be a Cleveland brown 😂
@@joshuabrown2134 Detroit Pistons work here too. (And I’m a Mets fan, but we’re not too far off from being on that level…)
@@SuperJNG18 what happened the last few seasons tho, like you guys were the talk of the town, then trades and back to square one.. I thought you guys were gonna win a pennant soon then my rangers just snagged one outta nowhere..
@@joshuabrown2134 We spent big without thinking of cohesion, plus we got brutally unlucky with pre- and mid-season injuries. Really a shame. We bottled it hugely.
2:10 😂
"I feel like an idiot" 😂😂😂🤣
What a fella hahaha, great laugh
FINALLLYY
The only way to change this is to set up a scouting network in Nigeria and find a wonder kid (or a few). He/they will eventually leave of course, but having some of their own play for your team would right the wrong.
This dundee fan has nothing to worry about tbh. It's not really that popular of a word anymore. Olodo, ode and mumu are used much more frequently
It's Dundee he's saying when did they add United I'm confused
I am from Northern Nigeria and I know that back then, in the sixties, our teachers in high school used to employ high sounding words to scold irritant and obnoxious pupils.
One of the words was "dunderhead".
Dundee must have come from that word.
"No min am dundee like him",
"you dunderheads, nincompoops, you utter rubbish", was an expression once used by our English teacher to berate some irritant mates. 50+ years, I can still remember because for form two impressionable kids, then, that was "big grammar"
The expression in Northern Nigeria means a person of low understanding that you have to repeat over and over again for him to understand
Nigerians love to shorten and Nigerianise english, that is why we have four english variants
1. Queens
2. Broken
3. Waafarian
4. Grammatical Inde
If you are not a Nigerian, 2 to 4 will always be strange
I thought it referred to the Dundee cake! That made sense to me because it contains nuts and fruit. I never heard people use the 'Utd'
I'm Canadian, but have been a DU supporter from my childhood. This is the first time I am hearing about this, but can't say I am totally shocked. This pretty much describes all the teams I support, just one big Nigerian disappointment.
They should come to Nigeria for another match or series of matches.
Imagine losing again
SO you are telling me Dundee United is REAL. whala oh....Love to the DUNDEE FROM from nigeria....
Wasn’t it mostly because one of the players was very rude in a press conference. Think the “investigative journalist” would have come across that.
Walk up the street 50 yards pal then your home
That tag is here to stay forever 😂😂😂. If you like make 24hrs winning videos of recent Dundee United 😅
So you chose the wee team?
Every nigerian that went to primary school in the 80s and 90s (including me) has Dundee United to mean someone acting foolish ingrained in their vocabulary 😁😁😁
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This is so random 😂
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I think Dundee united needs to return to Nigeria and a have a good preseason to change this narrative 😅😅😅
It must be atleast 3 months since the last time I heard what Dundee United in Nigerian slang means . Obsessed with Dundee United. Famous all over the World 🧡🖤
I am from Northern Nigeria and I've never known Dundee is an insult. But I've known Dundee as a Scottish club since when I started watching Premier League in 2006. The fact that it's derogatory but in Northern Nigeria we don't know it as an insult because the other parts of the country speaks Pidgin English and that has denounced the fact that the 200 million population of Nigeria are using the word. It's just some parts of Nigeria. Northern Nigeria has the highest population in the country and you can't get up to 10% of the populace that know about Dundee as an insult only few like me knows it as a football club. This claim should be directed to people using the word as insult. It's unfair to generalise on we innocent Nigerians, best wishes I'll come to Dundee United one day. I'm a Manchester United fan.
How many more stories do Dundee Utd have in their pockets about goin on tour back in the day?
Im not mad, Im Dundeesapointed in you........... Utd.
Are nigerians generally smarter than other african nations or something? Most ones I meet went to uni, have businesses, etc.
Nigeria has a culture that puts massive importance on education, all the stereotypes about Asian tiger parents is reality for allot Nigerians. There is no ethnic group in the world that is smarter than any other because of genetics, it's always socioeconomics. In Nigeria trades people like plumbers, builders, and carpenters are poor so if you want to improve your lot in life the only option to you is education.
I grew up in Nigeria, in the 80s and 90s and Dundee United was used to refer to people as idiots or losers😅
Dundee United cannot still perform in Nigeria. (good Documentary though)
you dundee united
In kenya we say danda meaning stupid
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Dun dee united, he doesn't even where to go...
Surely this will be a hate crime in Scotland after April Fools day?
It's sad Britain is being ethnically cleansed
@@dragonofthewest8305 come off it you daft prat
I never knew the reason an idiot was referred to as "Dundee United" in Nigeria until I watched this video clip.
Weird to see Africans talking about Dundee Utd 😂
The only remedy for Dundee united is to win premier league or champions league.
Then alone Nigerians can forgive them , otherwise they remain a Dundee to Us
Dundee means stupid in Nigerian slang
You mean you went to University of idiots 😅
Would calling someone a "Dundee" be considered hate speech though???
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No. It’s just like saying “fool”
And this is funded by us. How about some live football. Glad I don't pay the tv tax.
Imagine saying why it began in the first place like the title suggests
Your a bit Dundee United aren't you
I'd rather be Dundee United than Nigerian
there's always one
Spoken like a true Dundee 😂
It's true that over there they have widespread poverty, violent conflict between religious groups and language barriers because of unintelligible local dialects, but there are good things about Dundee as well.
@@Support-your-local-teamdon’t you have the same “religious violence” everywhere on earth including the UK?
Will you claim not to know about the concert hall attacks in Russia some days ago? The festival attack in Israel recently? That re-heated the recent Israel vs Palestine Gaza issues?
Islam vs Hindus in India, Islam vs Jews in Israel, Islam vs Christian’s in Nigeria, Islam vs secularism in UK and USA etc.
This is not unique to Nigeria or Africa. Shame on you for trying to make the global jihadi issue look like it’s unique to Nigeria.
@@Biobele Read it again. It went right over your head I'm afraid.
Part of what made Dundee become an insulting word, is because of its closeness to the word "Dummy"!
In Nigeria , words that represent Dunce or Dummy, tend to be words beginning with the alphabet "D"!!
Dekpe, Didirin, Dopemu, Dodo, are some of the local words that describes someone who might be perceived as being clumsy, or clueless or slow witted!
Which almost resonates with the English language where words like Daft, Donkey, D*ckhead, Dummy and Dunderhead are put down words!
Now Nigeria , in the 1970's still had stronger sociocultural ties to Britain as a former colony than we do now!
And secondary school students in Nigeria of that era, were on a roll , as they sought relevance of their own, forming slangs and phrases to look hip and modern!
Dundee as a name seemed to tie in well with both English and Nigerian ( Yoruba) words for a slow witted and clumsy person, and so the name stuck as an insult!
I imagine the performance of the football club Dundee United on tour to Nigeria didn't help matters!
A great number of Nigerians today will use the "pass me down word"with no idea or inkling as to how the word came to be!!
Inter-est-ing!!
👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!!
Most words that start with d have a negative connotation. Devil, decline, death, disease, depressed, damaged etc etc
Dundee and Dundee United are different clubs though. So the insult is nothing to do with United.
1:54 very clearly says if you are a Dundee United. And not just Dundee.
Scotland is full 😂
Learnt about this out of pure curiosity around 2012 or so. I found out that there was a City and 2 football clubs in Scotland named Dundee, and i was like "huh, Dundee?", so i researched on if there was a link. I then asked my Grandfather, a huge football fan, and he very well remembered the backlash in the Sports community after the Dundee United tour... Basically a lot of Nigerians had lost huge amounts of money betting on Dundee favoured odds, thinking that a Prof. British Football Club coming to play some of the Amateur Football Clubs would be a bloodbath, and well, they couldn't be more wrong, because Dundee stunk up the place... So Dundee is now a Nigerian slang for "Disappointment/Idiot/Stupid".
BTW, many Nigerians thought like that because they had a very high regard for British clubs due to what they've been told about how "good" they were.
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